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Delegitimizing the Supreme Court

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  200 comments

Delegitimizing the Supreme Court
I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have unleashed the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.

Link to Quote: Schumer warns Kavanaugh and Gorsuch they will ‘pay the price’ | The Hill



Most Americans recall the day when Sen Chuck Schumer threatened the Supreme Court. We also recall what democrats tried to do to Justice Kavanaugh in particular. Eventually we had the spectacle of illegal protests outside of the homes of Justices and then the attempt on the life of Justice Kavanaugh. This past week the Supreme Court handed down 3 decisions that had the American left in a world of hurt. One was an affirmation of the First Amendment, the second was an affirmation of the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th Amendment and the third was an affirmation of the separation of powers. All of which should have been unanimous decisions. We still have 3 activists on the Court, and as usual, they voted on their feelings, not the law.

There is a greater concern here (by decent Americans) than a simple disagreement with a decision of the High Court. The real problem is that we have a very powerful political party that has been taken over by the far left which now wants to delegitimize the Court. Note the responses:

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Democratic "Squad" member  Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez , D-N.Y., slammed the U.S. Supreme Court for what she called an "abuse of power" Sunday, following landmark decisions this past week rejecting affirmative action and Biden's student loan debt plan. She proposed impeachment and subpoenas be put into play in order to limit the justices' powers. 

"The Supreme Court is far overreaching their authority," Ocasio-Cortez said on CNN's "State of the Union,"

"And I believe, frankly, that we really need to be having conversations about judicial review as a check on the courts as well," she added.

The Supreme Court  issued the last decisions of its term this past week, among them rejecting the use of race as a factor in admissions, ruling in favor of a Christian web designer who refuses to make a same-sex wedding websites, and striking down President Biden’s student loan debt cancellation plan. Democrats have considered the rulings to be attacks on the left, denouncing the court as "illegitimate." 

AOC proposes subpoenas and impeachment to limit SCOTUS justices’ power following landmark decisions (msn.com)




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The moron-in-chief made this statement right after the decisions were made public:

President Biden declared on Thursday that the Supreme Court “is not a normal court,” delivering an extraordinarily critical assessment of another branch of government shortly after the court’s conservative majority  ended nearly a half-century of affirmative action in college admissions .

Biden Slams Supreme Court Ruling on Affirmative Action - The New York Times (nytimes.com)




So, the response of democrats is to delegitimize the Court itself?  How about the Constitution itself? Or the separation of powers? Or the electoral college?  All of those things get in the way of their ideology. Don't think for one minute that the Constitution isn't now in jeopardy. We have seen what they have done since 2020. Many of the agencies of the US government are now politicized & weaponized against the people. We witnessed incredible violence throughout the country in 2020 with over two dozen killed and millions in property damage. All of it was condoned by local democrat governments. We have seen the democrat party prosecute its political opponents. Let us not forget that someone who will never be caught leaked Justice Samuel Alito’s draft opinion in Dobbs (the overturning of Roe.) 

If you don't know by now, they mean business. That is really what's on the line when we vote in elections.



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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    last year

The transformation is almost complete.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

The left continues to whine and attempt to bring down our institutions.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    last year

All that talk about protecting democracy and our institutions progressives love to employ when attacking trump is revealed for the hypocrisy it is. 

this is extortion. Rule as we demand regardless of the law, , or progressives, will threaten, smear and even try to assassinate justices   While destroying the courts legitimacy  as a independent institution by packing the court  with servile progressive justices or threatening to ignore court rulings.

All progressive congressional  terrorists like AOC have to do is their job, pass laws implementing the policies they desire. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year
Democrats have considered the rulings to be attacks on the left, denouncing the court as "illegitimate." 

So, the democrats are "outraged" (again / still) and making BS claims like this every time they lose.  It's just another day that ends in "Y".

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    last year

Lawyers for the Biden administration told the Supreme Court that it could cancel hundreds of billions of dollars in student debt because Congress had given it that authority in the Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students Act of 2003, which is usually called the HEROES Act.

A version of the law enacted in 2001 after the Sept. 11 attacks gave the secretary of education the power to “waive or modify any statutory or regulatory provision” to protect borrowers affected by terrorist attacks.

In 2003, Congress expanded that power to include borrowers affected by “a war or other military operation or national emergency.” In March 2020, President Donald J. Trump declared that the coronavirus pandemic was a national emergency, and his administration invoked the HEROES Act to pause student loan repayment requirements and to suspend the accrual of interest.

The Biden administration followed suit. The payment pause has cost the government more than $100 billion, according to the Government Accountability Office.

Last year, the administration   said it planned to switch gears , ending the repayment pause but forgiving $10,000 in debt for individuals earning less than $125,000 per year, or $250,000 per household, and $20,000 for those who received Pell grants for low-income families. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has   estimated the plan’s price tag at $400 billion .

The loan forgiveness program,   the administration said , was meant to ensure that “borrowers are not in a worse position financially due to the pandemic with regard to their ability to repay their loans” when payment obligations resumed.

In a Supreme Court brief, the administration argued that “the plain language of the HEROES Act authorizes the plan.”

The brief added: “The secretary responded to the devastating economic consequences of the Covid-19 pandemic by granting targeted relief to borrowers at higher risk of delinquency and default due to the pandemic — specifically, by waiving and modifying certain provisions governing student loan cancellation and discharge. That relief falls squarely within the secretary’s express statutory authority.”

The six states challenging the plan took a different view, saying that the administration exceeded its legal authority. “Canceling hundreds of billions of dollars in student loans — through a decree that extends to nearly all borrowers — is a breathtaking assertion of power and a matter of great economic and political significance,” lawyers for the states wrote in   their Supreme Court brief .

The 2003 law, they said, “does not authorize the program, much less with the clarity this court’s precedent requires.” In the final ruling on Friday, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said the administration’s logic — that power to “waive or modify” loan terms allowed for debt cancellation — was a vast stretch, “in the same sense that the French Revolution ‘modified’ the status of the French nobility.”
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year
www.msn.com   /en-us/news/politics/khanna-claims-scotus-overruled-congress-on-student-loan-debt-lauds-bidens-plan-b/ar-AA1dlgDD

Khanna claims SCOTUS overruled Congress on student loan debt, lauds Biden's Plan B

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California Rep. Ro Khanna on Sunday praised President Joe Biden's continued efforts to cancel federal student loan debt   after the Supreme Court struck down his initial plan   to forgive up to $20,000 for some borrowers.

Biden said Friday that   he will now rely on the 1965 Higher Education Act   to try to enact debt forgiveness, rather than the Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students (HEROES) Act of 2003, on which his initial plan was based.

"I am pleased that the White House is invoking the Higher Education Act," Khanna, a progressive Democrat, told ABC "This Week" co-anchor Jonathan Karl. "I do hope that the White House will make sure that the interest doesn't accrue starting in September. I know the president has said he isn't going to refer students to the credit agency. I also believe under the Higher Education Act he can stop the interest accrual."

While Khanna said he was supportive of Biden's new path forward -- and would like there to be a broader payment pause while the administration pursues more ways to legalize loan forgiveness -- he sharply criticized the Supreme Court.

MORE: SCOTUS student loan ruling could be a 'modest headwind' against economic recovery: Economists

The post-9/11 era HEROES law enabled the U.S. education secretary to "waive or modify any statutory or regulatory provision" regarding student loans to initially protect borrowers impacted by terror attacks. That law was later altered to include people affected by "a war or other military operation or national emergency" -- with Biden maintaining that the COVID-19 pandemic qualified.

Karl noted on "This Week" that the Supreme Court's analysis rejected the White House's arguments, even citing a comment made by former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in 2021 that Biden "can postpone [student loan debt]. He can delay. But he does not have that power [to cancel it]. That has to be an act of Congress."

The high court's conservative majority on Thursday ruled 6-3 that Biden did not have the authority under the HEROES Act to issue sweeping federal student loan cancellation, which the White House had hoped to do for more than 40 million borrowers.

Chief Justice John Roberts, who wrote the opinion knocking down Biden's plan, found that precedent "requires that Congress speak clearly before a Department Secretary can unilaterally alter large sections of the American economy."

Khanna, on "This Week," took another view.

"We can have an argument that the HEROES Act passed in 2003 shortly after 9/11 was way too broad in giving that kind of authority to the president and the secretary. I don't believe it was the case. That's a legitimate argument. The place to make that argument is in the United States Congress," he said.

"It's not for unelected justices to override what Congress has passed. And that's what this court is doing. It's very dangerous," he continued. "They are basically reinterpreting congressional statute to fit their ideological preconceptions."

MORE: Biden outlines 'new path' to provide student loan relief after Supreme Court rejection

While the White House had long resisted discussing what other avenues they might pursue if the student loan cancellation program was rejected, the president on Friday said he will invoke the Higher Education Act to allow Education Secretary Miguel Cardona to "compromise, waive or release loans under certain circumstances."

But it's currently unclear how much forgiveness would be enacted under this strategy.

The White House will also implement a 12-month "on-ramp repayment program" during which the government will not refer borrowers who miss payments to credit agencies.

"This new path is legally sound," Biden said in remarks after the Supreme Court ruling. "It's going to take longer. And in my view, it's the best path that remains to student debt relief to as many borrowers as possible as quickly as possible."
 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year

If the court “overruled congress” why did both houses of congress vote otherwise?

if congress actually wants student loan relief, all it has to do is pass a bill saying so. An easy democratic solution that progressives oppose.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year

They didn't overrule congress. Congress never waived student debt.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year

What we can easily glean from these two articles is that the SCOTUS ruling on the student debt relief issue was a political decision by a conservative court, not a dispassionate decision based on judicial restraint. 

The Trump administration used the Heroes Act to suspend student debt payments, and the Biden administration used it to forgive some of the debt. Both uses were based on the decision by those administrations that COVID harm to the economy constituted a "national emergency" covered by the Heroes Act. The difference was the remedy. 

So instead of requiring Congress to clarify the parameters of the "response" that would be in compliance with the Heroes Act, the conservative Supreme Court decided that it should be taken out of Congress hands and be decided by themselves. 

These are the types of reasons why people are losing faith in the Court. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year

Brandon the Human Fuck Up Machine's second verse is the same as the first.

Nothing in the 1965 Higher Education Act gives him the right to cancel student loan debt.

Does the Supreme Court have to stamp it on his damn head so that it will sink in?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    last year

The real witness before the Court was Nancy Pelosi.  Obviously she didn't see what some are now claiming was in the "Heroes Act.' LOL

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    last year

It's amazing.   Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden agree that Congress didn't delegate the authority.   Under political pressure, the President tries anyway and does everything in his power to structure the relief to avoid giving any party standing to challenge his abuse of power because he knows it's indefensible on the merits.  Congress than votes specifically to reject the idea it delegated the power to Biden.

The Court does what Pelosi and Biden ruled as it believed it should and suddenly its "political."  A more dishonest argument one would have to look far and wide to find.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    last year
What we can easily glean from these two articles is that the SCOTUS ruling on the student debt relief issue was a political decision by a conservative court, not a dispassionate decision based on judicial restraint. 

Merely your opinion.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.1.8  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year
Chief Justice John Roberts, who wrote the opinion knocking down Biden's plan, found that precedent "requires that Congress speak clearly before a Department Secretary can unilaterally alter large sections of the American economy."

Oh, look.... an adult behaving responsibly...

That's something you don't see every day.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year

Seems both you and the NY Times can't tell the difference between pause and cancel.

Why don't you ask Nancy Pelosi.

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Quoting Pelosi during a 2021 press conference, the Court's majority opinion wrote, "People think that the President of the United States has the power for debt forgiveness. He does not. He can postpone. He can delay. But he does not have that power. That has to be an act of Congress."

Unless Nancy Pelosi is now a Republican?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2    last year
Chief Justice John Roberts, who wrote the opinion knocking down Biden's plan, found that precedent "requires that Congress speak clearly before a Department Secretary can unilaterally alter large sections of the American economy."

Khanna, on "This Week," took another view.

"We can have an argument that the HEROES Act passed in 2003 shortly after 9/11 was way too broad in giving that kind of authority to the president and the secretary. I don't believe it was the case. That's a legitimate argument. The place to make that argument is in the United States Congress," he said.

"It's not for unelected justices to override what Congress has passed. And that's what this court is doing. It's very dangerous," he continued. "They are basically reinterpreting congressional statute to fit their ideological preconceptions."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.1    last year
"It's not for unelected justices to override what Congress has passed.

They didn't.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2    last year
Why don't you ask Nancy Pelosi.

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"People think that the president of the United States has the power for debt forgiveness. He does not. He can postpone. He can delay, but he does not have that power. That would – that has to be an act of Congress," she said in the video.

Karl noted that the Supreme Court "quoted" her words.

Khanna said Pelosi took that position before Biden had asked for a legal analysis of the HEROES Act. 

"When you look at the analysis of the heroes act, it says specifically that the president and the secretary have the authority to cancel or amend – to waive or amend the student loans," he said. "There was an analysis done that the secretary has that authority. He has to over a certain amount, get approval of the attorney general, and the speaker said after she looked at that legal analysis, it was clear under the HEROES Act the administration did have that authority."

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.2.4  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.3    last year

You, Khanna, and now Pelosi are all wrong.

Brandon isn't Xi, and this isn't China.

End of story.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.4    last year

A minute ago Pelosi was right, according to you. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.3    last year
Khanna, on "This Week

If that was true, Biden's handlers would have simply had dumb ass amend it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.4    last year
Brandon isn't Xi, and this isn't China.

Who knows, maybe he will turn it into a law when he goes to South Carolina this week. He just made the announcement of going there after Donald Trump just drew 50,000 people at a rally there. It is an odd state of affairs that a president who can't draw flies at an event got a record 80 million votes.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.3    last year

She was against it before she was for it,

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.8    last year

What do you think would happen if Biden actually submitted a bill forgiving student debt to congress?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.3    last year

Your argument is nancy pelosi is so dumb that she doesn't understand the bill she passed?  That she and the democratic  caucus passed a law without a basic understanding of what it meant and needed someone else to explain to them what they voted for?  

That's some party you support. "Vote Democrat We are too dumb to read or understand what we are doing!"  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.3    last year

And all you have to do to support the crackpot theory that the President had the authority is to point out what war we are in or what national emergency exists.

Barring that, SCOTUS has spoken and deadbeats can pay their loans back.

Dems don't have a leg to stand on here.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.2.12  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.5    last year

She was right the first time- wrong the second time.

Which is why I said "and now Pelosi are all wrong."

She shouldn't listen to charlatans like Khanna. Maybe she really is putting herself out to pasture.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.2.14  Jack_TX  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.10    last year
Your argument is nancy pelosi is so dumb that she doesn't understand the bill she passed?

That would definitely be my argument.  That's certainly what happened with the Affordable Care Act, so the precedent is there.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.15  CB  replied to  dennis smith @4.2.13    last year

Oh please, as if some conservatives don't whine; just look at that 'loser' of a party ticket leader who dreams three years out that he is still a proper president. Even uses his presidential stationery yet rumor has it.

Indeed! It is some conservatives who either coined but most definitely vocalized the phrases: "Unelected judges" and "activist judges" for the high court - as if we don't remember it being so just because we don't belabor it.

Even in some conservative projection, on a deeper level the projecting itself is a bit of a whine (and trivial to a point).

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  dennis smith @4.2.13    last year

They just can't get used to a Court that follows the Constitution rather than feelings.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.17  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.16    last year

Some conservative wish so much so that they could live in a country/world where people are not the main thing; I will remind them as often as I can that this is not that world. Keep hurting people and people will strike back. Indeed, it has already began.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.18  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.17    last year
Some conservative wish so much so that they could live in a country/world where people are not the main thing;

Where do you get this stuff?

Has any conservative EVER told you any of that crap?

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.19  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.18    last year

I read conservative authors and writers on a variety of subject matters. Even read books written by former justices of the supreme court (Scrib.com). Very enlightening. BTW, did you know that neoliberalism is what the ideology of no feelings that count (publicly anyway) in society. It is that we should go with capitalism (raw/pure/lightly deluded) in every situation? The end result being disaffection for people who are not part of one's political ideology?

Though this may be beyond the scope of this discussion, nevertheless.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.20  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.1    last year

"They are basically reinterpreting congressional statute to fit their ideological preconceptions."

BINGO!

That's exactly what those lying hypocrites are doing - the CONServative ones that is, the unethical ones, bought and paid for by religious and other interests.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.21  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.2    last year

They did.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.22  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.19    last year
I read conservative authors and writers on a variety of subject matters. Even read books written by former justices of the supreme court (Scrib.com). Very enlightening. BTW, did you know that neoliberalism is what the ideology of no feelings that count (publicly anyway) in society. It is that we should go with capitalism (raw/pure/lightly deluded) in every situation? The end result being disaffection for people who are not part of one's political ideology?

Which is unresponsive to what I posted.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.23  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.20    last year
That's exactly what those lying hypocrites are doing - the CONServative ones that is, the unethical ones, bought and paid for by religious and other interests.

False.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.24  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.21    last year

Of course they did not.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.25  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.22    last year

Not really. Conservative writers should carry some sway with you. If not so, who does? Anyway, if one tries to live a so-called "pure" ideology on any political subject one will soon find themselves heaved up on the trash heap of life. For life is truly lived in the exchanges of realities ("give and take") that people, citizens trade between themselves!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.26  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.19    last year
Though this may be beyond the scope of this discussion, nevertheless.

And yet, you persist.

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.27  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.26    last year

And you; do you insist?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.28  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.27    last year
do you insist?

On people making sense? Of course!

Join me!

 
 
 
CB
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4.2.29  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.28    last year

Now that's digressing. Of course we all want people to make sense.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.30  Texan1211  replied to  CB @4.2.29    last year
Now that's digressing.

nope.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4    last year

As you so adeptly pointed out, the act the President is attempting to use is valid in cases of war or national emergency.

To quote:

In 2003, Congress expanded that power to include borrowers affected by “a war or other military operation or national emergency.”

We are not at war and there is no national emergency.

Joe strikes out again.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3    last year

"...or national emergency.”

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.3.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.1    last year
"...or national emergency.”

Very good--EXACTLY WHAT I WROTE,

Now, again (!) WHAT EMERGENCY????????????

BTFW, little AOC or Joe whining about how HARD it will be for some folks is NOT an emergency.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.3.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.1    last year

What is our current national emergency?  Why does it only affect those with student loans in families earning less than $250,000?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.2    last year

your inane comments give me a headache

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.3.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.4    last year

Poor response but I understand its the best you can come up with.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.3.6  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.3.3    last year
What is our current national emergency? 

There isn't one.

Why does it only affect those with student loans in families earning less than $250,000?

Makes no sense at all, does it?

Liberal "logic" fails ---again.

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.3.7  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.6    last year
What is our current national emergency? 

MAGA type far right-wing fascism that relies upon lies.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.3.8  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @4.3.7    last year
MAGA type far right-wing fascism that relies upon lies.

Complete and utter bullshit.

SMH

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  cjcold @4.3.7    last year

That is like saying it is a National Emergency that 80 million people voted for a brain dead zombie, many of them voting for him because they could not keep up with the other guys mean tweets.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.3.10  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @4.3.7    last year
MAGA type far right-wing fascism

Good god is there ANY subject matter that you would not insert this bullshit someone on the seed?

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.3.11  GregTx  replied to  bugsy @4.3.10    last year

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Tessylo
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4.3.12  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @4.3.7    last year

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Tessylo
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4.3.13  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @4.3.10    last year

cj only tells the truth

some can't handle that

they deal in projection, deflection, denial, and delusion

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.3.14  Texan1211  replied to  bugsy @4.3.10    last year
Good god is there ANY subject matter that you would not insert this bullshit someone on the seed?

It is like the only thing they have--some warped version of fascism known only to select liberals.

Thank God that the vast majority of people aren't stupid enough to fall for it.

 
 
 
JBB
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5  JBB    last year

Women lost reproductive freedom when the SC struck down Roe vs Wade. Then minorities lost Affirmative Action. The LGBTQ community lost their expectation of equal treatment in public accommodations. Young adults struggling to recoup after Covid lost promised debt relief...

So, who is happy with Trump's Supreme Court?

Kangaroos...

original

 
 
 
Ronin2
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5.1  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @5    last year
Women lost reproductive freedom when the SC struck down Roe vs Wade.

The hell they did. The court gave the decision back to the states. California, New York, and other leftist bastions of stupidity still have some of the weakest/lax abortion laws around. Don't like the abortion laws in the state you live- then move to another one with more lax laws.

 Then minorities lost Affirmative Action.

Are Asians a minority? Considering the lawsuit against Harvard's enrollment policies was brought by an Asian- you are 100% wrong. Blacks and Latinos outnumbers Asians in the US. Guess Democrats only care about minorities they can buy off.

The LGBTQ community lost their expectation of equal treatment in public accommodations.

Wrong again. What else is new? This ruling is the same as the cake ruling. Businesses can't be forced to make a product that goes against their business model. I would love to see a LGBTQ+ business that prints nothing but pro LGBTQ+ t-shirts be forced to print "God hates gays" for a client. The left would lose their shit. The ruling states the web designer cannot discriminate against LGBTQ+ clients. If they want to buy a straight wedding website design- then she is bound to sell to them. Just like the LGBTQ+ business that prints pro LGBTQ+ t-shirts must sell their product line to straights or anyone else that wants it. They don't have to create anything special for clients.

Young adults struggling to recoup after Covid lost promised debt relief...

Tell Brandon to obey the fucking law. Not even Pelosi said he had the power to forgive student loan debt. Only Congress does.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1    last year

Minorities only mean black people now.  White progressives are perfectly happy discriminating against asians and attack them as white supremacists 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.2  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    last year

Forget Native Americans, subcontinental Asians, Hispanics, Arabs, Jews, Athiests, Muslims, Aboriginals and the LGBTQ?

What about all of the cultural minorities?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @5.1.2    last year

You think affirmative action applies to atheists, muslims, etc?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
5.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.3    last year

I have a Cuban born friend that always considered and listed himself as Caucasian until he applied to law school, then he became Hispanic.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1    last year

Why so angry all the time??

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @5    last year
Women lost reproductive freedom when the SC struck down Roe vs Wade.

Woment didn't lose a goddamn thing.  All the SC Decision did was put it on the states and not the federal government.

Then minorities lost Affirmative Action.

Are you implying that minorities can't do anything without special accommodations?  

The LGBTQ community lost their expectation of equal treatment in public accommodations.

So you support the fascist idea that everybody should make thing for everybody?  This was a win for the 1st Amendment.  And it's not the first time it's been brought up and the left lost.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2    last year

You ask tough questions.

Let us see what happens.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    last year

We know what will happen.  There will be no answers.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.2    last year

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.4  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2    last year
Woment didn't lose a goddamn thing.  All the SC Decision did was put it on the states and not the federal government.

Yes, they did lose something. Before the SCOTUS decision abortion was legal in all 50 states now that is changed and in some states it's not legal or so very restricted it's a joke.

In the history of the Supreme Court only 48 times since the 1700s as SCOTUS overturned one of its own decisions, this is one of them.

Are you implying that minorities can't do anything without special accommodations?  

That, of course, isn't at all what is implied. The facts of the matter is that when AA was removed in the California school system the number of minority students dropped dramatically and even with millions of dollars spent by the schools to improve the numbers of minority students they have never reached the same number as before the ban on AA in 1996.  If, instead of making blanket comments regarding minorities actually getting the facts and speaking to us since we are the ones that are affected by the decision would give you a better idea of the whole dynamic.

As noted in numerous articles since the SCOTUS decision last week schools are working on ways to keep minority students attending. The schools see something that SCOTUS didn't/doesn't nor to non-minorities see it the same way. 

So you support the fascist idea that everybody should make thing for everybody?  This was a win for the 1st Amendment.  And it's not the first time it's been brought up and the left lost.

IMO, The plaintiff didn't even have a business when the suit was filed and then the supposed person that sent the ''request'' states that he did not send it, isn't gay and has been married for 14 years. What we have is a decision on a case that never existed, which is BS.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.2.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Kavika @5.2.4    last year
Yes, they did lose something. Before the SCOTUS decision abortion was legal in all 50 states now that is changed and in some states it's not legal or so very restricted it's a joke.

I'll broaden my question for you, is it abortion 100% illegal ANYWHERE in this country?  The answer is NO, it is not 100% illegal.  While there are differences from state to state it is not illegal.  Hence, women didn't lose a goddamn thing.  Now if you have issues with it in your area, then this is where the SCOTUS decision is important, you take it up with the politicians in YOUR AREA.  

That, of course, isn't at all what is implied.

From my POV, it IS implied that the person who wrote that believes that minorities cannot succeed without special accommodations.  According to this person, and apparently you, there would be no black, Asian, Hispanic, Native American's or anybody else "non-white" in the position they are in without help.  It's wrong and flat out racist.

The progressive / liberal / left have been crying for years about equality.  Now, the SCOUTS has ruled in favor of equality, and they all are crying that they still want that special treatment but to be equal.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.6  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.5    last year

What percentage of your freedoms are you willing to forfeit as long as there is an angle to claim they were not completely removed? If you can still own a gun but only after taking/ safety classes, passing a background check, passing a written exam, passing a psych test, getting a permit, registration and insurance?

All American women lost reproductive freedom, no matter how you spin it...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @5.2.6    last year

I would agree with you but then we would both be wrong.  Also noted you are refusing to answer my questions in 5.2

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
5.2.8  George  replied to  JBB @5.2.6    last year

The mistake you are making is abortion isn’t a right protected under the constitution.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.9  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.7    last year

How bout no guns for those over 65?

Keep it up so voters will hate the gop!

Two out of three support roe v wade...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.10  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.5    last year
I'll broaden my question for you, is it abortion 100% illegal ANYWHERE in this country?  The answer is NO, it is not 100% illegal.  While there are differences from state to state it is not illegal.  Hence, women didn't lose a goddamn thing.  Now if you have issues with it in your area, then this is where the SCOTUS decision is important, you take it up with the politicians in YOUR AREA.  

The difference in some states is the gestation period. If there is a six week ban a large per cent of women don't know they are pregnant in that time period.  Hence women have lost much of their rights which is plain to anyone that can read.

From my POV, it IS implied that the person who wrote that believes that minorities cannot succeed without special accommodations.  According to this person, and apparently you, there would be no black, Asian, Hispanic, Native American's or anybody else "non-white" in the position they are in without help.  It's wrong and flat out racist.

I never said or implied any such thing. I said and gave you a backup on the situation in CA. Of course, there are still minorities going to college but many are not able to or have to take a school that isn't elite. As far as wrong and flat-out racist as you said, actually being a minority I have personal experience with it and did ask you in my previous comment to actually get some facts and speak to us (minorities) to get a better understanding of the dynamic which you seem not to be interested in. 

The progressive / liberal / left have been crying for years about equality.  Now, the SCOUTS has ruled in favor of equality, and they all are crying that they still want that special treatment but to be equal.  

Don't generalize, I've actually protested for civil rights and it has cost me but I guess that is beyond your pay grade. If that's the best you've got, hang it up since you have no idea what the hell your talking about.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
5.2.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @5.2.9    last year
How bout no guns for those over 65?

Wasn't Biden 70 when he told Jill to fire his shotguns of the VP residence deck if she was  scarred.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.2.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @5.2.9    last year
How bout no guns for those over 65?

And what does that have to do with ANYTHING I ask you in 5.2?  But, hey, I'll entertain you for a brief moment.  It appears you are willing to take away somebody's 2nd Amendment right.  How very fascist of you.  Like you said in 5.3.2:

a reduction of rights is also a loss of rights!

The difference you are ignoring is, the right to bear arms is right there in the Bill of Rights.  What you are crying about, well, not so much.  You're obviously ignorant enough to not realize what recent Roe v Wade decision did.  And instead of taking the time to figure it out, you are going right along with the rest of the parrots who don't know and chirping right along with them. 

The termination of AA gives you the equality that you all on the left have been demanding.  Now that you have it, you all are crying that you lost the special treatment.  Can't have both.  Welcome to equality.  

Your idea that the cake maker was in the wrong displays the fascism you have blamed the GOP and the right of for quite a while.  Again, there is the 1st Amendment that you are trying to reduce.  And again, your claim in 5.2.3.  Does the demand that somebody make a cake out weigh a person's 1st amendment right to NOT make it?  How about in the NHL when players opted not to wear pride sweaters for practice?  The short answer is - NO.  People don't have to support anything if they don't want to.  No matter how much you cry about it.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
5.2.13  charger 383  replied to  George @5.2.8    last year

Does a person have the right to cut their hair, trim their toenails or have their tonsils removed? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.2.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Kavika @5.2.10    last year
The difference in some states is the gestation period. If there is a six week ban a large per cent of women don't know they are pregnant in that time period.  Hence women have lost much of their rights which is plain to anyone that can read.

Blah, blah, blah.  Abortion is NOT illegal in the US.  No matter what articles you provide.  It. Is. Not. Illegal.  Like I said, if you have issues with it in your area, then you take it up with the politicians in YOUR AREA.   It's no longer something the federal level is no longer part of.  

I said and gave you a backup on the situation in CA.

Because Ca is a good example of, NOTHING.  

Don't generalize,

I'm not generalizing a damn thing.  You wanted equality.  This SCOTUS brings more of that equality you protested for.  Now you are crying because the special treatment is gone.  Sorry, can't have both.  This decision doesn't only affect a specific demographic.  You need to get that nonsense out of your head.  It affects several demographics.  It's time to put the victim card away. 

Welcome to equality.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
5.2.15  charger 383  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.14    last year

 equality. that means both men and women have the right to be Not pregnant and child free 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.16  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.14    last year
Blah, blah, blah.  Abortion is NOT illegal in the US.  No matter what articles you provide.  It. Is. Not. Illegal.  Like I said, if you have issues with it in your area , then you take it up with the politicians in YOUR AREA .   It's no longer something the federal level is no longer part of.  

Sadly, you can't grasp that it is illegal. More willful ignorance on your part. 

Because Ca is a good example of, NOTHING. 

It is probably much too difficult for you to grasp. 

Now you are crying because the special treatment is gone.  Sorry, can't have both.  This decision doesn't only affect a specific demographic.  You need to get that nonsense out of your head.  It affects several demographics.  It's time to put the victim card away. 

Once again with the ''crying'' nonsense, it seems to be way beyond your capabilities to express a thought without resorting to childish nonsense. 

Nowhere did I say it affected only specific demographics, quit making shit up since he destroys what little cred you have on this subject. 

Never played a victim card, I leave that up to the ''replacement theory'' whiners.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
5.2.17  afrayedknot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.14    last year

“Welcome to equality.”

If only a court decision, or a piece legislation, or a signature could make it so.

What this court has done is rollback efforts made decades ago to protect our rights. We are always going to have to face our struggles with the inequality inherent in our society. These decisions are ignoring that fact, as is everyone who trumpets them as some sort of victory. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.2.18  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Kavika @5.2.16    last year
It is probably much too difficult for you to grasp

It's not hard to grasp that Ca is a Democrat run shithole.  It's actually common knowledge to those with functioning brains.

Never played a victim card

Yes you did. 

speak to us (minorities)

If you weren't trying to play the victim card you wouldn't have felt the need to bring that up.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.19  Kavika   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.18    last year
It's not hard to grasp that Ca is a Democrat run shithole.  It's actually common knowledge to those with functioning brains.

A shithole as you call it that far exceeds anything NC can offer. As for common knowledge to those with functioning brains, I'd say that would leave a lot of NC out.

Never played a victim card

Yes you did. 

speak to us (minorities)

LOL, so asking to speak directly to someone with the knowledge and experience is playing the victim card...OMG, that's about as stupid a comment as I've seen on NT. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.2.20  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Kavika @5.2.19    last year
A shithole as you call it that far exceeds anything NC can offer.

You're right it does.  Homelessness, illegal immigrants, drug problems, crime.  Those are always something I would promote.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.21  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    last year

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.22  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @5.2.6    last year

None of his rights were ever taken away from him.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5    last year
Women lost reproductive freedom when the SC struck down Roe vs Wade

An absolute LIE.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.3.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3    last year

It's not like it's a surprise.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.3.2  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3    last year

A reduction of rights is also a loss of rights!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.3.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @5.3.2    last year

Funny you only acknowledge that for certain situations.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.3.4  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.3.3    last year

Bullshit! That is you. You're projecting!

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
5.3.5  charger 383  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3    last year

No! They lost rights men did too

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
5.3.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @5.3.4    last year

Not projecting a goddamn thing.  Just calling out your hypocrisy.  For example, take your stupid ass comment you made in 5.2.9.  You're all good to reduce the rights of gun owners, but then you go and contradict yourself with 5.3.2 and claim that somebody's rights are being reduced.  

The subject of this article is the cancellation of Affirmative Action.  Nobody's rights are reduced.  It is the equality the left has been crying about for years. 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.3.7  cjcold  replied to  JBB @5.3.2    last year

I imagine a poor woman, without a car, a dead husband with no other family, who already has 2 children and can't afford a third, trying to find a way to get 500 miles to find the nearest abortion provider.

The GOP is a cruel, heartless, thoughtless organization. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
5.3.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  cjcold @5.3.7    last year

 imagine a poor woman, without a car, a dead husband with no other family, who already has 2 children and can't afford a third, trying to find a way to get 500 miles to find the nearest abortion provider.

How many are there that fit this description? Why arent the dems taking up a collection for her like they did for bail money in 2020? Or is that just more hyperbole? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.3.9  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.3.8    last year

I prefer to imagine people who are adult enough to take responsibility for their own actions and not try to blame their failures on some anonymous "thing" allegedly "taking their rights away" nonsense.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.3.10  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @5.3.7    last year
I imagine a poor woman, without a car, a dead husband with no other family, who already has 2 children and can't afford a third,

Shouldn't she get whoever knocked her up to drive her?

How's about imagining a poor woman with two kids who knows how to and does prevent unwanted pregnancies?

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
5.3.11  charger 383  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3.9    last year
"adult enough to take responsibility for their own actions"
Having an abortion is being adult enough to take responsibility for their own actions and is the  smart  choice
 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
5.3.12  charger 383  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.3.8    last year
How many are there that fit this description?

how many problems do you want?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
5.3.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  charger 383 @5.3.12    last year

How many are there?

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
5.3.14  charger 383  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.3.13    last year

as many as there are unwanted pregnancys 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.3.15  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3.9    last year

Far right-wing male fascists do take women's rights away every day.

Seems to happen more in Texass than anywhere else.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.3.16  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @5.3.15    last year
Far right-wing male fascists do take women's rights away every day. Seems to happen more in Texass than anywhere else.

Your unique views on fascism are always fascinating to behold.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.3.17  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3.16    last year

Only a Texan male would call me wrong on this point.

Many Texas women that I have been with wanted it rough.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.3.19  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @5.3.17    last year
Only a Texan male would call me wrong on this point.

If one actually READS my comment, one finds I said nothing of the sort.

Perhaps we should limit out discussion to what is actually stated instead if inventions.

Many Texas women that I have been with wanted it rough.

And how did that make you feel?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.3.20  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3    last year

Nope, the absolute TRUTH

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.3.21  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @5.3.20    last year
Nope, the absolute TRUTH

SImply hilarious.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.4  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5    last year
Women lost reproductive freedom when the SC struck down Roe vs Wade.

That is a lie.

Then minorities lost Affirmative Action.

Another lie.

The LGBTQ community lost their expectation of equal treatment in public accommodations.

False, of course.

Young adults struggling to recoup after Covid lost promised debt relief...

In Biden's roaring economy? Besides, they can't lose what they never had.

How come you constantly brag about how good things are under Biden but suddenly people can't pay their legal debts back?

Maybe your President Joe should not promise shit he can't deliver, and maybe fools should recognize that Joe can't wave a magic wand and erase their debts at the expense of other, hard-working people who pay their own bills.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.4.1  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.4    last year

There you go again outdoing yourself for utter dishonesty... 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.4.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.4.1    last year
There you go again outdoing yourself for utter dishonesty

Let's go one by one, shall we?

You may start by telling us what law the SC instituted that outlawed abortion. Failing that, you have no credible claims to the truth regarding that.

Affirmative Action is not outlawed, it is just not going to be a part of college admissions any longer, as is correct. Why would you willingly discriminate on the basis of race?

The alphabet group lost absolutely nothing and I defy you to even attempt to prove otherwise.

As far as "losing" debt relief--they never had it and aren't entitled to it under LAW.

But I am VERY interested in hearing your explanation of why it is soooo hard on these titty babies in Biden's stellar economy--or at least that is what you usually are selling. Today doesn't fit the narrative so you changed tunes.

I doubt you will bother to address anything here.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
5.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @5    last year

Your meme doesn't seem to take into account the 6 don't always vote in a block while the 3 seem to. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.5.1  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.5    last year

His memes are considered quite rare.

What they do is commonly entertain the non-thinkers who frequent here.

They rarely are true, they rarely make sense, they rarely are topical, they rarely impress those with brains.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
5.5.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @5.5.1    last year

You forgot they are rarely (never) original. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.5.3  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.5.2    last year

original

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.5.4  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.5.1    last year

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.5.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.5.3    last year

I wish instead of wasting time looking up and posting worthless memes, you would address some of the points in post 5.4.2.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.5.6  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.5.4    last year

I am a male.

And despite what some loons may have told you, males do not menstruate and no amount of wokeness will ever change that.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
5.5.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @5.5.4    last year

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.5.8  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.5.7    last year
Can you say misogynist? 

Ahh, some folks believe that men menstruate and can give birth.

Maybe he just doesn't legitimately know any better.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.5.9  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @5.5.1    last year
those with brains.

Far right wingers who have rarely earned even a high school diploma?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.5.10  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @5.5.9    last year
Far right wingers who have rarely earned even a high school diploma?

Is that what you think you read?

Amazing.

truly.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
5.5.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @5.5.9    last year

Source?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.5.12  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.5.11    last year
Source?

Nothing credible.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.5.14  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @5.5.4    last year

Super +

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
5.6  bugsy  replied to  JBB @5    last year

But you cheered when the majority sided with the minority and stated the feds can basically refuse to deport any illegal, even if they are deportable and are criminals.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  author  Vic Eldred    last year

Women lost reproductive freedom when the SC struck down Roe vs Wade. 

No they didn't.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    last year

Good thing old white men are majority voters...

Oh, they aren't?

Trump and the gop need a few more Justices!

So fasten your seatbelt & raise seatback table.

Your gop is in for a very bumpy election cycle...

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @6.1    last year

Don't count your Brandon's before they hatch.

Democrats have a lot of problems of their own creation to overcome. Inflation, high fuel prices, crime, rising interest rates, Ukraine (the pit that just keeps on taking money and resources), and their absolute disastrous foreign policies (Afghanistan, China, North Korea, and Iran).

Brandon cannot hide in his basement this time. 

The only chance that Democrats have is if Trump is the Republican nominee. Then it is a toss up. 

People are sick of living in Democrats land of perpetual victimhood.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @6.1    last year
old white men

Oh I know, how about we put them all in camps?

Would that solve it?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1.3  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    last year

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.1.3    last year
Is that the gop's final solution for LGBTQ?

Look, we all get you think you're being cute with that dumbass question. Give it a fucking break.

[Deleted]

No one else assumes that that I have ever heard of.

Your weak, pathetic attempt to link the GOP and Nazism misses it's mark and falls woefully short on intelligence,

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    last year

Yes they did.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @6.2    last year
Yes they did.

But not a one of you can simply quote that part in the Court's ruling.

Because y'all made it up.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    last year

"The HEROES Act would've extended the scope and period of student loan forbearance established under the CARES Act. All federal and private student loans would be given forbearance through September 2021. The Treasury would pay the loans up to $10,000 per borrower during this forbearance, and $45 billion is appropriated for this purpose. After that period any amounts remaining of the $10,000 per borrower would be provided to fund student debt forgiveness. "




Pelosi who helped get the mostrous inflationary package passed said that only congress could do what Biden promised and that "Act" wasn't it!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8  Texan1211    last year

Gee, I seem to remember waaaaay back when Nancy and Joe said they lacked the authority to do this crap.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @8    last year

Nice to see you can echo six or eight comments your friends have already made on this seed. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    last year

Nice to see you avoid answering what war we are in or what national emergency we are in.

Dems don't have a leg to stand on here, SCOTUS has spoken and deadbeats can pay for their own college.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.1    last year

If you knew anything about this issue you would know what emergency Biden said we were in (hint- the same emergency that existed when trump used the Heroes Act). 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.2    last year
If you knew anything about this issue you would know what emergency Biden said we were in

If you are talking about Covid, that expired in May.

get current and for God's sake this has NOTHING to do with Trump no matter how you twist and spin.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.2    last year
If you knew anything about this issue you would know what emergency Biden said we were in

The only "emergency" Biden is concerned with is when the ice cream will be delivered.  The man has a zero balance accomplishment listing for his ENTIRE political career.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.1.4    last year

You do note that no emergency exists.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.5    last year

Oh definitely.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.1.6    last year
Oh definitely.  

I wish everyone had the integrity to admit that they can see it too!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.1.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.7    last year

Unfortunately those on the left lack that integrity and honesty.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
9  Drinker of the Wry    last year

Trump extended or postponed student debt during the COVID crises.  Biden tried to replace student debt with US debt after COVID and during a wonderful economy that he has built.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @9    last year

Isn't it weird that the Biden economy cheerleaders are now claiming that people paying their debts constitutes a national emergency because it may be 'difficult' for people to pay off loans they willingly contracted for?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
10  Nerm_L    last year

So, how do we combat the two party stranglehold on our politics and our democracy?  Both parties have been taken over by extremist ideology that is being rejected by the electorate.  

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
10.1  cjcold  replied to  Nerm_L @10    last year

Nope. [deleted Most liberals are moderates.]

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11  TᵢG    last year
The moron-in-chief ...

A perfect way to encourage readers to dismiss your entire article as biased partisan bitching.

Yes, be critical of Biden; there is plenty of legitimate criticism to offer.   But emotive hyperbole never works in the author's favor (except to gain attaboys from like-minded partisans).

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
11.1  cjcold  replied to  TᵢG @11    last year

Funny how the far right and moderate leftists use a completely different language.

Trump does the school-yard bully thingy and liberals don't make up derogatory names.

Reminds me of elementary school where the bullies taunted with made-up names.

Trump has never graduated from grade school in his mind.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @11.1    last year

Nor his supporters/enablers

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
12  TᵢG    last year
The real problem is that we have a very powerful political party that has been taken over by the far left which now wants to delegitimize the Court. 

A worse problem is that we have a once powerful political party that has been taken over by Trump empowered by a strong MAGA minority who are incapable and/or unwilling to think for themselves and simply believe whatever the narcissistic liar states.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
12.1  cjcold  replied to  TᵢG @12    last year

The real problem is that MAGA folk have mostly sub 80 IQs.

That is why they are so easily led and used by fascists giving them a voice.

Hitler used his ignorant easily manipulated populists in the same way.

Hitler just gave his low IQ fools somebody to hate and blame for everything.

In Hitler's regime it was Jews. In the US far right regime it is now liberals.

Trump and his fascist crew can't stand equal treatment under the law.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
12.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @12.1    last year

Source?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
12.1.2  cjcold  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @12.1.1    last year

[removed]

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
12.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @12.1.1    last year

Nothing credible.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
12.1.4  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @12.1.2    last year

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
12.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @12.1    last year
In the US far right regime it is now liberals.

A far right regime while Joe Biden is President?

Crazy funny there!

What do you think they keep him around for?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.3    last year

The truth

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
12.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.1.6    last year
The truth...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

continues to elude you.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
13  Right Down the Center    last year

The best way to get back into a game you are losing is change the rules of the game.  All kids (and apparently most democrat politicians) know that.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
13.1  cjcold  replied to  Right Down the Center @13    last year

So the far right lost the midterms due to Trump. The hits will just keep coming.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
13.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @13.1    last year
So the far right lost the midterms due to Trump.

You mean to say they didn't win the House?

Wow........................

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
13.1.2  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @13.1    last year

Seems real Americans are tired of far right wing Hitler fascism.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
13.1.3  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @13.1.2    last year

But the Russian bots here do seem to love the conflict.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
13.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @13.1.2    last year
Seems real Americans are tired of far right wing Hitler fascism.

Well, thank God Hitler is long dead and no Americans have to be worried about it any longer!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
13.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @13.1.2    last year

Yea, 80 some years ago.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
13.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @13.1.3    last year
But the Russian bots here do seem to love the conflict.

You should alert Perrie.

I bet she has an IT guy to work on that for her because I'm sure she wouldn't tolerate bots here.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
13.1.7  GregTx  replied to  cjcold @13.1.3    last year

512

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
14  CB    last year

This is ridiculous. This "opinion" reads like something madmen and women would write: As though the bulk of this country is behind drawn battle lines and hunkered down in bunkers doing trench warfare. Well, I have news for all of y'all:

Stop the fear-mongering and demonizing!

Work for peace.

Shit like this is getting this nation's citizens a big fat nowhere.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
14.1  Texan1211  replied to  CB @14    last year
Stop the fear-mongering and demonizing!

Work for peace.

Shit like this is getting this nation's citizens a big fat nowhere.

That would certainly carry a tad bit more conviction had you not been voicing how horrible you think conservatives and SCOTUS are constantly.

Crying for cooperation seems hypocritical.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
14.1.1  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @14.1    last year

Well, when some conservatives want better output from me-place in better input. Other than that the output speaks for itself!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
14.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  CB @14.1.1    last year
output speaks for itself!

It most certainly and assuredly does.

Pity.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
14.1.3  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @14.1    last year

[removed]

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
14.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @14.1.3    last year

[removed]

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
14.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @14    last year
This "opinion" reads like something madmen and women would write:

Why should I trust your legal judgment any more than your psychiatric judgment?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
14.2.1  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @14.2    last year

I am commenting on this opinion article, not any court!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
14.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @14.2.1    last year

Which words struck you as psychotic? 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
14.2.3  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @14.2.2    last year

The twisted thinking which goes into writing fear-mongering and demonizing opinion pieces. Now I will leave room for your analysis as to which words ↑ fit the bill.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
14.2.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  CB @14.2.3    last year

I don’t have a clue at what set you off.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
14.2.5  CB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @14.2.4    last year

That's not a sufficient excuse!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
14.3  Texan1211  replied to  CB @14    last year
As though the bulk of this country is behind drawn battle lines and hunkered down in bunkers doing trench warfare.

And isn't that exactly what you do when you start in with all the "some conservatives" stuff and claims about victimhood because someone (?) is taking your 'rights' away?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
14.3.1  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @14.3    last year

No its not. I am out in the open waiting for some conservatives to end the so-called culture wars. But, since you clearly have no interest in ending anything currently happening; I will hang up on this discussion right now!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
14.3.2  Texan1211  replied to  CB @14.3.1    last year
I am out in the open waiting for some conservatives to end the so-called culture wars.

You act as though there is only one side involved in culture wars.

Suit yourself as far as not being willing to discuss any longer. It's a FREE country and you certainly have that right (provided no one has taken it from you, of course!)

That's all on you.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
15  sandy-2021492    last year

Thread @5.4 cleaned up and locked for slap fighting.

 
 

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