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Mr. Smith Goes to Washington — With a Possible New Indictment of Donald Trump

  

Category:  Op/Ed

Via:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  25 comments

By:   Jonathan Turley (The Messenger)

Mr. Smith Goes to Washington — With a Possible New Indictment of Donald Trump
There are obvious reasons why Mr. Smith would want to go to Washington in this instance. Trump would face what is, for him, arguably the worst jury pool in the country. Trump lost the 2020 presidential vote in the District of Columbia, receiving a mere 5.4% of the vote. That means finding a Trump supporter in the district's jury pool is only slightly more likely than finding a snow leopard.

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Former President Donald Trump has revealed that he received a "target letter" from Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith as part of Smith's investigation into the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol.

Many people were surprised by the news, since Smith already is pursuing criminal charges in Florida on the mishandling of classified documents and the likely Jan. 6 allegations are far more tenuous legally. However, the second indictment may have one irresistible element: It could be tried in Washington.

There are obvious reasons why Mr. Smith would want to go to Washington in this instance. Trump would face what is, for him, arguably the worst jury pool in the country. Trump lost the 2020 presidential vote in the District of Columbia, receiving a mere 5.4% of the vote. That means finding a Trump supporter in the district's jury pool is only slightly more likely than finding a snow leopard.

Such an indictment could come at a high legal and political cost. This would be the third criminal indictment of Trump and there may still be a fourth coming in Georgia. Past indictments have given Trump boosts in polling, and this indictment could well seal the view of many voters that Democrats are weaponizing the legal system.

Smith has a reputation in conservative circles for stretching the criminal code in high-profile cases, including the prosecution of then-Virginia Gov. Robert McDonnell (R), a conviction that was later thrown out in an 8-0 decision by the U.S. Supreme Court, which rebuked Smith for what it termed the "Government's boundless interpretation."

That would certainly be the likely criticism again if Smith relies on Trump's Jan. 6 speech for criminal charges. That speech is entirely protected under the First Amendment and governing case law, including Brandenburg v. Ohio. Any count based on Trump's speech would likely be overturned on appeal.

Smith also could be pursuing claims based on the Trump team's effort to challenge the 2020 election's certification, including the possible submission of an alternative slate of electors. That foundation also would be controversial, however.

In the past, congressional Democrats used the very same law to challenge presidential election certifications with little or no evidence. Indeed, not long after the election, I wrote about that possibility in what I called the "Death Star strategy" using the same grounds. The use of the federal law for that purpose was not and is not a crime.

Indeed, the House Jan. 6 (J6) Committee's chairman, Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), voted to challenge the certification of the 2004 election results and then-President George W. Bush's reelection. His fellow J6 Committee member, Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), sought to challenge Trump's certification in 2016. Then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) both praised the challenge organized by then-Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) in 2004.

The question is whether Smith has evidence that goes beyond such use of the same law by Trump and his supporters. The J6 Committee spent a huge amount of time and money to try to find a direct link of Trump to a violent conspiracy or other crimes. It failed to produce such direct evidence, despite its revelations of embarrassing and disturbing testimony on Trump's reaction to the Capital riot.

Those hearings showed that the White House's lawyers rejected the theories put forward by figures like Trump associate John Eastman. However, relying on bad advice or bad law is not a crime. President Joe Biden, like his predecessors, has been accused of knowing disregard of statutory and constitutional law, including repeated losses before the Supreme Court. We have never criminalized such interpretations.

While many of us rejected the Eastman arguments, Trump had a split among the lawyers advising him on that day. He listened to the wrong side — but proving that he clearly knew the arguments were invalid would be a difficult task for Smith.

Again, Smith may have acquired evidence that eluded the J6 Committee. We will have to see.

There also is the possibility that, despite the usual pattern of target letters leading to indictments, Smith could be doing his due diligence in seeking Trump's appearance before a grand jury before closing out the case. Trump would be certifiably insane to take Smith up on such an offer. Yet the widespread expectation now is that Smith will indict Trump if there is any possible basis on which to do so in Washington.

A Washington trial would add pressure on Trump to seek a plea deal, but that seems unlikely to evolve. Not only could Trump be pardoned by a potential Republican president after 2024, he could grant himself a self-pardon if he won election to another presidential term.

We could learn some of these answers as early as next week, if there is an indictment. Smith gave Trump only four days to appear before the grand jury. After that, Smith must make a decision.

With a majority of voters already viewing earlier Trump indictments as politically motivated, Smith would need to make a case that is unassailable. That means it cannot be another McDonnell case built on some new "boundless interpretation" by Smith of federal law. If Mr. Smith goes to Washington this time, he needs to bring indisputable evidence and law to support new charges against Mr. Trump.



Jonathan Turley, an attorney, constitutional law scholar and legal analyst, is the Shapiro Chair for Public Interest Law at The George Washington University Law School.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

The idea of a DC jury weighing in on anything involving Trump is irresistible.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

plan b - DC federal indictment

plan c - new jersey federal indictment

I guess trump probably should have contained all of his criminal acts in a friendly jurisdiction.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1    last year

Can you imagine what a migrant from Venezuela must be thinking?

Here we have the president's DOJ trying to prosecute his main opponent in an election. 

They must be saying to themselves: this is what we were fleeing!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    last year

Maybe THAT is Biden's "border plan".

I guess Harris has completed her study of the root causes of migration and determined that making our country as shitty as the ones immigrants are coming from will make the trip here not worth it.

And I thought they didn't have a plan!

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    last year

the constitution guarantees equal justice under the law, or else...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @1.1.3    last year
the constitution guarantees equal justice under the law, or else..

yeah, we'll believe that when Hunter Biden is made to register as a foreign agent.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1.3    last year

Where is it?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year
The idea of a DC jury weighing in on anything involving Trump is irresistible.

Then perhaps Trump should have thought of that before he broke any laws in DC.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    last year

Another pile of crap from Jonathan Turley. He is on a roll. 

When the charges against Trump are revealed (probably sometime next week), the evidence accumulated by Smith will be shown to be overwhelming. It is highly likely one or more Trump insiders, high up that food chain, have flipped on him to avoid their own jail time. 

There will be first hand evidence of Trump's crimes. 

Turley is whistling past the graveyard. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year

Gosh, how many times has this imaginary scenario been played out in liberal minds?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    last year

he J6 Committee spent a huge amount of time and money to try to find a direct link of Trump to a violent conspiracy 

From what I saw, the supposed three statutes he violated do not include any charges of incitement of the j6 crowd.   It was always such a preposterous claim.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    last year

During his Jan 6th speech at the ellipse, hours before the electoral vote in congress, Trump called for Mike Pence to follow the Eastman plan. DURING the capitol building riot, Trump was making phone calls to Republican members of Congress trying to cajole them into opposing the count, when he should have been trying to stop the riot. . He belongs in prison. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    last year
DURING the capitol building riot, Trump was making phone calls to Republican members of Congress trying to cajole them into opposing the count,

And what statute does that break?

 
 
 
JBB
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4  JBB    last year

original original

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5  Greg Jones    last year

"In the past, congressional Democrats used the very same law to challenge presidential election certifications with little or no evidence. Indeed, not long after the election, I wrote about that possibility in what I called the "Death Star strategy" using the same grounds. The use of the federal law for that purpose was not and is not a crime.

Indeed, the House Jan. 6 (J6) Committee's chairman, Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), voted to challenge the certification of the 2004 election results and then-President George W. Bush's reelection. His fellow J6 Committee member, Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), sought to challenge Trump's certification in 2016. Then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) both praised the challenge organized by then-Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) in 2004."

Turley is on sound legal ground here. The Democrats have done the same thing that Trump is accused of. So far, all the public has been shown is a political witch hunt against Trump, desperately seeking evidence of a real, prosecutable crime being committed.

Finaly, if the evidence is there, he is entitled to fair trial in front of an impartial jury.

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.1  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @5    last year

If Turley had an ounce of honesty he would have reported the vote counts in both houses as to the 2004 election. Both Thompson and Boxer manage to garner only 1 vote in the senate and 31 in the house. The Dem's effort was a ping pong ball compared to the Repub's 2020 bowling ball.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hallux @5.1    last year
lection. Both Thompson and Boxer manage to garner only 1 vote in the senate and 31 in the hou

Oh. So it's okay to try and overturn elections but it's criminal if you obtain  more than some arbitrary  amount of votes.  Is that the standard?  

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    last year

Perhaps you can point out to NT's fans where and when the 2004 Dems filed 60+ losing lawsuits, created fake state electors, promulgated 'peaceful picnics', etc.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @5.1    last year

So because the Dems did it makes it ok because of degree.

Double standard.

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.1.4  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.3    last year

I never said it was OK.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @5.1.4    last year
The Dem's effort was a ping pong ball compared to the Repub's 2020 bowling ball.

That was your comment I based mine on.

 
 
 
Hallux
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6  Hallux    last year

Great column Turley ...

512

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @6    last year

Your rebuttal is astounding in its scope.

 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1    last year

Meh, the thesis is unsurprisingly insipid.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @6.1.1    last year

But you can't dispute it with facts.

 
 

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