Pence criticizes reported Trump plan to expand presidential power
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Maureen Groppe. USA TODAY
BERLIN, N.H. − The man who served in the Oval Office with former President Donald Trump doesn't think much of Trump's reported intent to expand presidential power if he's returned to the White House.
Former Vice President Mike Pence, who is running against Trump for the 2024 GOP nomination for president, said he has the opposite approach.
"I don't want to consolidate power in Washington, D.C.," Pence said Friday during a town hall in Berlin, N.H. "I want to devolve power out of Washington, D.C."
A former governor of Indiana, Pence said he would reduce the size of the federal government, including shutting down the Department of Education and sending resources and authority to the states "where it can be accountable."
"I believe in state-based federalism and reform," he said near the end of a three-day campaign swing through New Hampshire.
Pence was responding to a recent New York Times report that Trump and his allies are planning a "sweeping expansion of presidential power over the machinery of government."
"My former running mate wrote out a plan, well-intentioned I'm sure, about consolidating power in the executive branch," Pence said.
He raised the report on his own, in response to a voter who complained that there's too much corruption in Washington.
On the infrequent occasions when Pence criticizes Trump, he mostly focuses on what Trump might do if he becomes president again while praising what they accomplished during the Trump-Pence administration - a record he says he'll be proud of "for the rest of my life."
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The real problem MAGAs have with Hillary is that it has become clear that she would have been a much, much better President than Trump. That's a very low bar of course, but that fact makes MAGAs squirm even more.
Obviously one of the most hilarious things ever posted on here.
Do you really believe that?
That's the truth.
You do realize that just because you say something is the truth does not actually make it true, don't you?
Donald Trump is a known traitor. That is why he is going to be indicted, perhaps tomorrow.
He hasnt been a better president than anyone.
I didn't say they'll ever say it publicly - that would be a betrayal of the Tribe. I said they know it. But cognitive dissonance is their way of life.
Glad you agree with my post.
Millions of people seem to disagree with that assessment
It is never a good idea to say what other people think. You are most likely wrong
It all depends on what could come out about the continued sage of Biden corruption.
Biden corruption and Trump indictment seem to go hand in hand.
Bravo comrade, nice "whataboutism"
So whataboput Trump? Did he break the law? Should he be punished?
What corruption exactly? I am srtill not clear on it. His son is a piece of shit? Okay, but what else?
Hilarious that leftists are sounding just like conservatives when every accusation came out about Trump.
Hypocrisy abounds.
You did not answer his question.
Seems to be good at that
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Only in alternate leftist reality.
Hillary would have gotten into a pissing patch with Putin and ended the entire planet.
The woman wanted to invade Syria!
We dodged a bullet when she lost. Contrary to leftists the world didn't end when Trump was elected. It might before Brandon leaves office.
Only in TDS driven morons' minds. Show where Trump is being charged with treason?
Brandon the Human Fuck Up Machine. By the way- you want to talk about treason- selling out this country to foreign powers is the very definition of treason. Yet leftists (including you) are still defending the sack of shit you put in the White House.
It wouldn't be the truth or factual and what else is new?
You're forgetting the most significant issue.
Think about what the SCOTUS would look like had HRC been elected.
I am not a fan of Trump, as you know. But I do believe he did far less damage than Hillary would have.
We wouldn't have had all those lying hypocritical scumbags on the bench if Hillary was President and Roe v Wade wouldn't have been overturned.
Yes, that is exactly what the country needs
Senile and dumb/Just a plain old idiot for the democratic win 2024
That's what happens when you order politicians from wish.
If Trump collapses, Pence would love to be the Savior. This is actually kinda clever, since it sticks to traditional Republican states'-rights.
He doesn't stand a chance. He defends the white supremacists and their leader who were calling for his hanging on 1/6
he's a thumped-out gutless coward...
that will probably never hold an elected office again...
Pence stands less chance of being president than Kennedy does.
He may not even make the very low bar for the first Republican primary debate.
All one needs is 1% of the polls; and 40,000 unique donors. Pence is struggling to reach the 40,000 unique donors. He is the Establishment candidate that not even they want.
WTF? Did you understand my post as somehow predicting a Pence win?
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The field of Republicans running for the Presidency is desperate since at this point Trump is the clear winner.
What you have is Trump and a bunch of broke-ass wannabe's. Trump, of course, is the biggest broke ass wannabe but he has the lemming following still sending him money.
The GOP is a mess. I would imagine it is embarrassing to be an R thus we see fantasy and other irrational utterings in an attempt to sidestep the shame of being part of a party that is likely going to nominate Trump.
The GOP should have detached from Trump on Jan 20, 2021. They stupidly brought this on themselves and now the entire nation is likely stuck with no real choice for PotUS.
They chose to characterize the best reason ever to jettison that loser as “locker room banter”.
The time for the Dems to detach from Biden and Ms Giggles is rapidly approaching...I'm guessing by the time snow falls in Denver...which has been as early as September 3rd.
The Ds best chance was before Biden announced. Now it is awkward since they would need to find a graceful exit for Biden. Further, they do not seem to have anyone enqueued to replace him.
But my comment was about Trump, not Biden.
It would have been a good reason.
But the very best reason is what he did as PotUS during his Big Lie campaign to —for the only time in US history— attempt to steal a US presidential election.
Back to Pence. "Pence criticizes"-------------------. Yawn, next. He wants to give more power to the states. Yeah sure, Pence. That'll fix everything, right?
Delusional
The seeded article is attempting to make the case that Pence is a better choice than Trump.
Trump is a better choice than Biden. Anyone better than Trump would be a much better choice than Biden. That means Pence would be a much better choice than Biden.
Biden's only chance is to run against Trump. Any other Republican candidate would be a much better choice than Biden.
The problem would, as always, be the Electoral College.
So, without a third party ticket, a Biden/Trump rematch would be a low turnout election. You know, an 87 response with a 4.9 pct margin of error doesn't look like a rousing endorsement for the Presidential election. Maybe that explains why a generic third party ticket would be competitive.
No, Biden will win, not your scummy hero, the former 'president'
Alright, I see your meme. But what is so awful about Biden? Are you distressed that Biden is not a Putin polisher like Trump? Or are you afraid that if the Saudi Crown Prince does something dastardly again Biden won't help and shield him?
I do not understand your vehemence against Biden. Why?
My hypothesis: blind partisanship.
Joe Biden has always been a 'trickle down' Democrat. Democrats really did endorse, support, and practice supply-side economics. The only difference between Reagan and Clinton was Clinton trying to insert the government into the trickle-down as a middleman.
Reagan Republicans claimed that making the rich richer would allow prosperity to trickle-down to ordinary people. Clinton Democrats claimed that making the rich richer would allow government to tax more and trickle-down prosperity to ordinary people. Both Reagan Republicans and Clinton Democrats made policy premised upon the rich being the source of national prosperity.
Joe Biden is one of those trickle-down neoliberal Democrats that sold out the country so that the rich could become richer. Biden was wrong then and Biden is wrong now.
Anyone that turns their backs on neoliberal, globalized, supply-side, trickle-down bullshit would be a much better choice than Biden.
The only factual item you mentioned was Reagan's Supply Side Economics, which still breathes. The rest is bs.
since so many liberals seem dead set against SSE, why haven't Democrats taken steps to change??
Follow the money.
except when it comes to the Biden family, eh?
Do you always have to go there? Is it beyond your ability to have a fair and honest discussion about anything?
Besides, what about the 'effing' Biden family? What the 'eff' is it?
Nope. But my reply was apropos to your "Follow the money" comment.
Not at all. I'll let you kick it off whenever you're ready.
Well, here's the scoop for you!
Hunter Biden sold influence and access to his father. The Biden Family collected MILLIONS of dollars from foreign govts. and companies for nothing EXCEPT access.
Joe Biden's oft-used phrase "I never discussed any of my son's business with him" is simply un-FUCKING-believable unless you are a sycophant.
Oh, wait, I believe the WH 'talking point' changed yesterday to "Joe was never in business with Hunter".
Follow the money. You afraid?
Why would I be afraid?
Besides, it would be so interesting to see what the Bidens did for some of their foreign clients and business partners and how some political decisions benefitted those clients and partners.
And the Trumps' too.