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Bidenomics spurred stronger GDP growth: Morgan Stanley

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  jbb  •  last year  •  71 comments

By:   Christina Wilkie (CNBC)

Bidenomics spurred stronger GDP growth: Morgan Stanley
Biden's Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act is "driving a boom in large-scale infrastructure," wrote Morgan Stanley's chief U.S. economist.

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Published Fri, Jul 21 2023 

  • President Joe Biden's economic policies drove an unexpected economic surge that has forced Morgan Stanley to make a "sizable upward revision" in its GDP forecasts.
  • Biden's 2021 infrastructure bill has created "a boom in large-scale infrastructure," wrote MS analysts, while domestic business investment "is rebounding, led by manufacturing."

U.S. President Joe Biden gives a thumbs up as he walks with first lady Jill Biden to Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House July 14, 2023 in Washington, DC.Drew Angerer | Getty Images

WASHINGTON — Morgan Stanley is crediting President Joe Biden's economic policies with driving an unexpected surge in the U.S. economy that is so significant that the bank was forced to make a "sizable upward revision" to its estimates for U.S. gross domestic product.

Biden's Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act is "driving a boom in large-scale infrastructure," wrote Ellen Zentner, chief U.S. economist for Morgan Stanley, in a research note released Thursday. In addition to infrastructure, "manufacturing construction has shown broad strength," she wrote.

As a result of these unexpected swells, Morgan Stanley now projects 1.9% GDP growth for the first half of this year. That's nearly four times higher than the bank's previous forecast of 0.5%.

"The economy in the first half of the year is growing much stronger than we had anticipated, putting a more comfortable cushion under our long-held soft landing view," Zentner wrote.

US President Joe Biden speaks about a new manufacturing partnership between Enphase Energy and Flex, at Flex LTD in West Columbia, South Carolina, on July 6, 2023.Brendan Smialowski | AFP | Getty Images

The analysts also doubled their original estimate for GDP growth in the fourth quarter, to 1.3% from 0.6%. Looking into next year, they raised their forecast for real GDP in 2024 by a tenth of a percent, to 1.4%.

"The narrative behind the numbers tells the story of industrial strength in the U.S," Zentner wrote.

Morgan Stanley's revision came at a pivotal time for the Biden White House. The president has spent the summer crisscrossing the country, touting his economic achievements. "Together we are transforming the country, not just through jobs, not just through manufacturing, but also by rebuilding our infrastructure," Biden said Thursday during a visit to a Philadelphia shipyard.

The White House has dubbed this brick-and-mortar economic growth formula "Bidenomics," a phrase originally used by Republicans to jab the president, who co-opted the term as a badge of honor.

In addition to his legacy, Biden has also staked his 2024 reelection bid on Bidenomics, betting that strong economic growth and a campaign built around kitchen table issues will ultimately drown out Republicans' culture war outrage.

This could be a risky wager, however. The latest CNBC All-America Economic Survey, released Thursday, found that just 37% of respondents approved of Biden's handling of the economy, while 58% disapproved. Only 20% of Americans agreed that the economy was excellent or good, while a whopping 79% said it was just fair or poor, CNBC's poll found.

Republicans have seized on voters' economic pessimism to argue that Biden is ignoring everyday Americans' ongoing challenges with high interest rates and inflation that has fallen some, but still sits above pre-pandemic levels.

"Bidenomics is about blind faith in government spending and regulation," GOP House Speaker Kevin McCarthy said in a statement Friday. "It's an economic disaster where government causes decades-high inflation, high gas prices, lower paychecks and crippling uncertainty that leaves America worse off."

With 16 months to go before Americans cast their ballots for president, Biden's political fortunes, for the moment, appear to be improving along with the economy.

"This report confirms what we've long said: Our strong and resilient economy is Bidenomics in action," White House assistant press secretary Mike Kikukawa said in an email to CNBC.

"The president's economic agenda is spurring investments in manufacturing and infrastructure that are creating jobs and supporting workers."


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JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    last year

Joe Biden is riding a blue tide of good economic news into 2024...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1    last year
Joe Biden is riding a blue tide of good economic news into 2024...

Great, he can reduce the deficit by collecting on the loans people haven't been paying on.

Maybe even by the end of his term inflation will be as low as when he took office, but no one is holding their breath on that fantasy.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    last year
"a boom in large-scale infrastructure,"

Well, I can agree with this statement.  Recently got back from a multi-week multi-state vacation and I can tell you there is a lot of road construction happening in every state I drove thru.  

Problem is I cannot find how it was paid for.  There are plenty of "promises" of how this will be paid back but nothing on how they set up the initial $550 billion with the only exception being the redirecting unspent emergency relief funds and additional taxes and the promise of how this will in turn generate additional income.  Does anybody know how much they borrowed against the deficit to start the program?

And yes, the GDP will increase because of this.  All federal funding helps to increase GDP.  But Biden has also allowed the deficit to increase, growing to $1.4 trillion thru June with another three months before the fiscal year ends.  Seems a shame to grow the deficit so large, how much of an impact will this have on the '24 elections?  

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  JBB @1    last year

... which the media aren't reporting. Many Americans still believe the economy is bad, because their favorite "news" channel says so. Some NT members are still pushing that story.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.2    last year
which the media aren't reporting.

So we are just supposed to pretend this article doesn't exist.

Interesting way to go about things, I guess.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.2.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.2    last year

True...

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.2.2    last year

Wow, meme #16 already today?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.2    last year

Yep, cost of nearly everything is up.    Wages aren’t keeping pace.     Personal debt is going up.    Mortgage interest rates are up.   Home ownership rates are going down.    Etc, etc

Bidenomics ……

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.2.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.3    last year

original

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.2.6  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @1.2.2    last year

More obtuse memes …. Shocking ….

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.7  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.2.5    last year

You know it is funny as hell when you troll your own articles with off-topic memes, right?

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JBB
Professor Principal
1.2.8  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.4    last year

Except wage growth has exceeded inflation this year...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.6    last year
More obtuse memes …. Shocking ….

The memes are in lieu of logic, reason, truthfulness, and sanity.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.2.10  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.7    last year

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.2.8    last year
Except wage growth has exceeded inflation this year...

Yeah, with a little luck, maybe wages will grow enough to cover what they didn't cover under Biden's first two years.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
1.2.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.2.10    last year

I don’t know when he made that statement but during the trump administration our debt grew by $6.7 trillion, today our debt is $32.5 trillion.  Trump’s share was 20%.  It will be less at the end of 2024.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
1.2.13  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.2.8    last year

Not true. The rate of inflation exceeded the growth of wages for the first time in recent years in April 2021. In this month, inflation amounted to 4.2 percent, while wages grew by 3.2 percent. The growth of wages surpassed that of inflation for the first time since March 2021 in February of 2023.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/#:~:text=U.S.%20inflation%20rate%20versus%20wage%20growth%202020%2D2023&text=In%20this%20month%2C%20inflation%20amounted,2021%20in%20February%20of%202023.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.2.14  Bob Nelson  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    last year

The most-watched channel is Fox News. They are "reporting that the economy is a shambles.

Are you not aware?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.2.14    last year

I leave Fox watching to the fanatics.

so, what part of Fox do you like the most?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.16  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.2.10    last year

so not only dumb memes but ones that lie!

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.17  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.3    last year
Wow, meme #16 already today?

Well, when there is nothing else.....

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.18  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.13    last year

it is hard to explain math to people who "know" increase in budgets are really cuts.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
1.2.19  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @1.2.10    last year

You do realize that roughly 66 pct of our national debt was incurred since the election of Barack Obama.

That's right, two thirds of our national debt can be traced to the Obama agenda.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.2.20  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @1.2.8    last year

Tell that to everyone chalking up credit card debt and tapping savings to pay their bills.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.2.21  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.9    last year

Left wing denial and crackpottery 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
1.2.24  bugsy  replied to  dennis smith @1.2.23    last year
Typical to blame someone else for Bidens failures.

They learned that from the Biden admin itself.

Nothing like a good parrot.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.25  Tessylo  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.2    last year

Like Faux 'news'?  I cannot believe anyone uses them as a 'source'.  It's quite moronic.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.26  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2.19    last year

That's not true.  [deleted]

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.2.27  Bob Nelson  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.25    last year

If we want others to recognize reality, we must do the same. It's a very sad fact, but it's a fact: Fox News is the most watched. 

Why? Obviously not for the truth, so... Part of it is probably Tribal Loyalty: MAGAs feel obligated to watch Fox, or something even further right. Part of it is bias confirmation, the viewers want to hear "what they already know".

The truth is unwelcome.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.28  Tessylo  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.2.27    last year

They watch Faux 'news' because they PD&D just like they do.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
1.2.29  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.3    last year

And on his own article.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2  Sparty On    last year

Meh, Biden policy has had little positive effect if any.    You want to thank someone?   Thank Jerome.

Powellonomics

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @2    last year

I usually would agree. But in the current case, Biden’s stimulus is a big part of his success.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1    last year

Only in la la land

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.1    last year

Every once in a while, Sparty, you say something that isn't completely stupid. So I try to give you some credit, and then try to coax you into a thoughtful conversation. I'm pretty sure you're capable of that.

But each time, you duck out, like here. I wonder why.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.2    last year

It never ceases to amaze me how you can make a comment and be wrong on all counts.    It’s quite a skill Bob.

Congrats!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.2    last year

When is that?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.1.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.4    last year
Every once in a while...

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.5    last year

You know I meant when does he say something that isn't completely stupid?

I put him on ignore long ago for those completely stupid statements.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.1.7  Bob Nelson  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.6    last year

Yes. I think there's an intelligent person, somewhere in there... so I keep trying. I can be stupidly stubborn.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.7    last year

Nah, complete waste of time.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.7    last year

Lol …. You two are pair to draw to.    That’s for sure.

Don’t waste your time believing I care what either of you think.

I don’t.    Not in the least.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.10  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.9    last year

Well, throwing that tantrum indicates you surely do care...

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @2.1.10    last year
Well, throwing that tantrum indicates you surely do care...

Amazing ….. everything in that comment is wrong.

Amazing!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.12  Ozzwald  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.9    last year

Don’t waste your time believing I care what either of you think.

I don’t.    Not in the least.

Then why do you keep replying to them?  Your actions show the opposite of your claims.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.12    last year

Nah, my actions show one thing.    

I respond to who I want, when I want and how I want.  Other members have zero control over that here.  

Zero

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
2.1.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.2    last year
you say something that isn't completely stupid.

You mean something completely stupid like

Biden’s stimulus is a big part of his success.

That was you.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.15  Ozzwald  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.13    last year
I respond to who I want, when I want and how I want.  Other members have zero control over that here.  

So you responded because YOU cared what they said, even if nobody else did...  Okey dokey.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.16  Sparty On  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.15    last year

See 2.1.13 …. Apply liberally, rinse and repeat as necessary 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.1.17  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.14    last year

This post says far more about you than about me. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Principal
2.1.18  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.17    last year

I know.  Stupid shit like thinking Biden having any success does say so much about you.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.1.19  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.18    last year

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Nerm_L
Professor Expert
3  Nerm_L    last year

Yup.  That's why Fitch downgraded the credit rating of Biden's government. 

Of course, Democrats ain't bright enough to understand that.  So, Democrats are bragging about another Biden botch up.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.1  Sparty On  replied to  Nerm_L @3    last year

They’re bright enough.    Some of them anyways which leaves being intentionally dishonest as about the only reason for those folks.    

Which is much, much worse than the folks who are too dim to have made the connection.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
4  Bob Nelson    last year

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @4    last year

so some yahoos whining about the timing.

bet they wouldn't have been whining if Biden wasn't President.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
4.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Bob Nelson @4    last year

Paul Krugman, LoL.  I remember when Paul said that Bill Clinton fixed the VA.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.3.1  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.3    last year

Krugman predicted that Trump would ruin the economy.

He's a real genius.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
4.3.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.3    last year

Ad hominem , kinda?    jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
4.3.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.1    last year

Why don't you explain inflation again? That was s-o-o-o funny!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.3.4  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.3.3    last year
Why don't you explain inflation again?

When did I do that? Are you imagining things?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
4.3.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.3.2    last year

You got that right.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
4.3.6  Bob Nelson  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.4    last year

[Deleted]

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
4.3.7  bugsy  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.3.6    last year

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
4.3.8  Bob Nelson  replied to  bugsy @4.3.7    last year

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Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.3.9  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @4.3.1    last year

Krugman was right.    
He just missed it by four years and one President.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.3.10  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.3.6    last year

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
5  Right Down the Center    last year

256

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.1  Sparty On  replied to  Right Down the Center @5    last year

Lol ….perfect illustration of Bidenomics.

 
 

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