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House GOP claims Biden corruption in new report, critics don't see it

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  jbb  •  last year  •  74 comments

By:   Chairman James Comer (USA TODAY)

House GOP claims Biden corruption in new report, critics don't see it
In its third report, House GOP Oversight panel claims evidence Joe Biden benefitted from son Hunter business dealings. White House says it shows no such thing

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Josh MeyerUSA TODAY

Republicans on the House Oversight Committee issued another report Wednesday criticizing President Joe Biden and his family for allegedly corrupt international business dealings, but critics - including the White House - said the report is a political hatchet job that offers no proof that Biden was involved.

The committee, led by Chairman James Comer, said in the report that it plans to continue to investigate Biden to find evidence of corruption, even as it acknowledged that it had no evidence that he financially benefited from the myriad foreign business dealings of his son Hunter.

"During Joe Biden's vice presidency, Hunter Biden sold him as 'the brand' to reap millions from oligarchs in Kazakhstan, Russia, and Ukraine," Comer said in a statement accompanying the release of committee report. "It appears no real services were provided other than access to the Biden network, including Joe Biden himself. And Hunter Biden seems to have delivered."

The 19-page report was titled, "Third Bank Records Memorandum from the Oversight Committee's Investigationinto the Biden Family's Influence Peddling and Business Schemes."

Critics said the report, and Comer's statement, marked a clear shift in strategy by the committee from one claiming it had the goods implicating Biden in corrupt schemes while he was vice president to one in which it says the lack of any such evidence must mean that he was involved.

"This stunt from Comer is just more of the same - no evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden, no new information to tie him to Hunter Biden's business, and another desperate attempt to keep this bogus investigation alive" said Kyle Herrig, executive director of the non-partisan Congressional Integrity Project. "Comer's fishing expedition continues to reel in nothing in a desperate attempt to distract from Trump."

The White House said the new Comer committee report is part of a continuing effort by Republicans to smear Joe Biden without any evidence or even information suggesting wrongdoing.

"Today House Republicans on the Oversight Committee released another memo full of years-old 'news,' innuendo, and misdirection - but notably missing, yet again, is any connection to President Biden," said Ian Sams, White House spokesperson for Oversight and Investigations. "Perhaps that is because - as recently as last week - the House Republicans' own self-proclaimed "hero" witness who was "going to be able to come under oath and tell us exactly what role Joe Biden played" testified that President Biden never discussed these business dealings and was not involved."

The 19-page memo released by House Oversight Republicans is based on bank records highlighting millions of dollars that Hunter Biden and his business associates received from a wide array of business arrangements overseas while his father was serving as vice president to President Barack Obama.

Few of the details appear to be new. But the memo details what it describes as new and damaging information, including "payments from Russia, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan" that occurred during Biden's vice presidency. "The Committee has now identified over $20 million in payments from foreign sources to the Biden family and their business associates," the report said.

The report also rehashes prior claims of corrupt dealings related to how Hunter Biden and former business partner Devon Archer allegedly used the business development and policy advisory firm "Rosemont Seneca Entities to bring in millions from oligarchs in Europe and Asia."

And it mentions other business relationships between Hunter Biden and Archer that it claims were suspicious or corrupt, including payments by a Ukrainian oligarch while they were on the board of directors of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings LLC.

More:5 takeaways from Devon Archer's testimony on Joe and Hunter Biden: 'There was no business conversation'

The new report is full of references to Archer, and says his recent congressional testimony "supports the Committee's findings," which have repeatedly alleged that Joe Biden himself was personally involved in - and benefitted from - Archer's and Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings.

But after months of describing him as a smoking gun who would prove deep corruption within what Republicans described as the "Biden Crime Family," Archer's testimony July 31, if anything, appears to exonerate Joe Biden.

For instance, Archer testified that Hunter Biden put his father on the phone with clients before his father was elected president, but that they did not discuss business. He also told lawmakers the vice president was not involved in their financial dealings, despite the contacts, and that he had no knowledge of wrongdoing by Joe Biden.

And while Joe Biden at times has said he had no involvement with his son's business dealings at all, Archer testified that he did reach out and call his son -- but only to check up on him, especially when he was grappling with drug addiction and other problems.

"But, you know, Hunter spoke to his dad every day, right? And so in certain circumstances, when you're in -- you know, if his dad calls him at dinner and he picks up the phone, then there's a conversation," Archer testified. "And the, you know, the conversation is generally about the weather and, you know, what it's like in Norway or Paris or wherever he may be. But that was -- yeah, that happened."

More:'How's the fishing?' Devon Archer testifies Joe Biden never talked business when put on phone

In their new report, the House Oversight Committee didn't mention those kinds of details from Archer's testimony. Instead, it said, "No one in the Biden Administration or in the (House Democratic) Minority has explained what services, if any, the Bidens and their associates provided in exchange for the over $20 million in foreign payments."

"The Committee plans to gather additional bank records in the near future and continue following the money trail," it said.

The White House on Wednesday jumped on that discrepancy, saying it was further evidence that House GOP members are trying to unfairly accuse Biden of wrongdoing, potentially as part of an effort to try and impeach him.

"This has been a pattern: time after time, Comer hypes up self-proclaimed bombshell findings about President Biden, and time after time, he fails to provide any actual evidence," White House spokesman Sams said. "Today's release is yet another flop."


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JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    last year

NOTHING! THEY'VE GOT NOTHING! 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1    last year

Nothing??

Is everyone expected to ignore facts now?

Nothing like bank records showing millions routed through shell companies before ending up in Biden Family bank accounts?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    last year
Is everyone expected to ignore facts now

Many progressives are too busy moving  goalposts massive distances on a daily basis  to even know what the facts are at this point. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.1    last year

Preemptive strike because we all know its coming:

Biden's taxes have been shown. No bribes listed.

That, and every investigation into Trump, especially the ones that found NOTHING, were legally predicated.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.2    last year
"Biden's taxes have been shown. No bribes listed."

Of course they wouldn't be listed. Not after all that finagling with shell companies and money laundering and such.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
1.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    last year

Take it court. Seriously, if the evidence is that solid bring it to a court of law and lock the mother fucker up.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
1.1.5  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.1    last year

Take it to court. Seriously, tell your reps to take it to court and settle it.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
1.1.6  Thrawn 31  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.3    last year

Court.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
1.2  GregTx  replied to  JBB @1    last year

Are you sure?...

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.3  cjcold  replied to  JBB @1    last year

Comer needs to be impeached for his lies. 

Add MTG, Gaetz, Jordan, Santos, Hawley, Scott, Abbot, Cruz, DeSantis, etc... to the list.

The whole freedumb caucus needs be voted out as well.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
1.3.1  GregTx  replied to  cjcold @1.3    last year

Spoken like an independent centrist.......

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.3.2  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @1.3    last year

Sure thing, we'll make time for that after the Schiff impeachment, ok?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.3.3  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @1.3    last year
Comer needs to be impeached for his lies. 

How about Joe Biden?

He lied, are you at all pissed off about that, or is it okay because he is a Democrat?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.3.4  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @1.3    last year

How's about we impeach Feinstein for being incapable of performing her job?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
1.3.5  Thrawn 31  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.4    last year

She does need to go. So does Mitch. At a certain point age does have an effect.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.4  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @1    last year

You WISH they had nothing. Or that Papa Joe had no interest in or involvement with Hunter's business associates. Or that Big Guy 10% simply popped into these "dinners" and just talked about the weather. Or that Daddy-O wasn't sitting next to Hunter during that phone call. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.4.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @1.4    last year

Yet you and the gop have zero evidence Joe Biden received any illicit income or ever profited illegally in any way or any form. So, go on throwing unfounded unproven false allegations. You cannot even articulate a crime to level against President Biden. Joe and Jill Biden's taxes are public going back decades with no hints of personal corruption.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.4.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.4.1    last year
Yet you and the gop have zero evidence Joe Biden received any illicit income or ever profited illegally in any way or any form. So, go on throwing unfounded unproven false allegations. You cannot even articulate a crime to level against President Biden. Joe and Jill Biden's taxes are public going back decades with no hints of personal corruption.

What exactly do you think those countries and foreign companies were paying millions to the Biden Family for?

Why would anyone give a crackhead such large sums of money?

What services did any of the Bidens provide for the millions they raked in?

Why hasn't dumbfuck Hunter ever registered under FARA?

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
1.4.3  JumpDrive  replied to  JBB @1.4.1    last year
Yet you and the gop have zero evidence Joe Biden...

Yes, and they know it. Note the shift in strategy below. The following is from the Oversight committee's August 9, 2023 memo titled "Third Bank Records Memorandum from the Oversight Committee’s Investigation into the Biden Family’s Influence Peddling and Business Schemes".

President Biden’s Family is the Vehicle to Receive Bribery Payments. President Biden’s defenders purport a weak defense by asserting the Committee must show payments directly to the President to show corruption. This is a hollow claim no other American would be afforded if their family members accepted foreign payments or bribes. Indeed, the law recognizes payments to family members to corruptly influence others can constitute a bribe.

Since they've been unable to come up with anything linking Joe Biden to Hunter Biden's company, they have removed that as a requirement. Now the fact that Joe's brother and son made money from Hunter's company is good enough. Apparently, if you're the kid of someone important, any money you make is automatically a bribe of your parent. This is really pathetic. Even if this nonsense somehow becomes acceptable, the oversight committee would need to show that Joe did something to benefit Hunter's client where that was the intended reason for the act rather than an incidental result of it.

Hunter Biden has a BA from Georgetown University and a Yale law degree. it really does seem that he can provide legal advice to foreign clients wrt US Law. The fact that he is a Biden only enhances his value.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.4.4  Texan1211  replied to  JumpDrive @1.4.3    last year
Since they've been unable to come up with anything linking Joe Biden to Hunter Biden's company,

Oh, you mean other than Joe outright lying multiple times? Okay then.

What services did any of the Biden Family provide to earn all those millions?

Hunter Biden has a BA from Georgetown University and a Yale law degree. it really does seem that he can provide legal advice to foreign clients wrt US Law.

I am positive that those foreigners were only interested in Hunter because of his legal acumen. Why they would pick a KNOWN crackhead when there are over a million OTHER US attorneys is a real mystery!

LMMFAO!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.4.5  Texan1211  replied to  JumpDrive @1.4.3    last year
Since they've been unable to come up with anything linking Joe Biden to Hunter Biden's company, they have removed that as a requirement.

You posted the explanation.

Indeed, the law recognizes payments to family members to corruptly influence others can constitute a bribe.
 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
1.4.6  JumpDrive  replied to  Texan1211 @1.4.4    last year

All of your responses, even if true, mean you guys still have nothing.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
1.4.7  JumpDrive  replied to  Texan1211 @1.4.5    last year

The Oversight Committee couldn't show any link to Joe from Hunter's company, so now they say we don't need that. They'll just pretend that any money earned by Devon Archer & Hunter is a Joe bribe. Of course, they still have no action taken by Joe in behalf of Hunter's company either. Here's an excerpt from Devon Archer's testimony before the committee:

Q Did Hunter Biden ever tell you, "I can get my dad to change U.S. policy"?   A No.
Q Are you aware of Hunter Biden ever asking his dad to change foreign policy?   A No.
Q Are you ever -- were you ever privy to any conversations between Hunter Biden and Joe Biden in which they discussed how Joe Biden would take official actions on behalf of Hunter Biden?   A No.

-and another excerpt, a Hunter email-

"The announcement of my guy's [Joe] upcoming travels should be characterized as part of our advice and thinking -- but what he will say and do is out of our hands. In other words, it could be a really good thing or it could end up creating too great an expectation. We need to temper expectations regarding that visit."

Devon Archer's testimony shows the opposite of what Comer claims. How surprising. You guys still have nothing.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.4.8  Snuffy  replied to  JumpDrive @1.4.7    last year
The Oversight Committee couldn't show any link to Joe from Hunter's company,

Did you miss this?

Hunter Biden  complained that 'half' of his salary went to paying his father's bills while he was Vice President, casting doubt on the Joe's previous claims that he's never benefited from his son's business dealings. 

The bills included a $190-a-month AT&T phone bill and thousands in repairs on Joe's lakeside home in Wilmington. 

The payments were described in a 2010 email, when  Joe Biden was earning $225,000-a-year as Vice President. He had already made well over $100,000-a-year for decades prior as a senator and author. 

Hunter, according to emails, had to foot a $190-a-month AT&T phone bill for his father, and pay for repairs to his lakeside property in Wilmington, Delaware . At the time, Hunter was working as the interim CEO of Paradigm Global Advisors and he'd also founded the investment firm Rosemont Seneca Partners. 

Hunter Biden complained that 'half his salary' went on paying Joe's bills | Daily Mail Online

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.4.9  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.4.1    last year

EXACTLY as predicted in post 1.1.2.

Nothing if not easily predictable.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.4.10  Texan1211  replied to  JumpDrive @1.4.6    last year

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Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.4.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.4.5    last year
ndeed, the law recognizes payments to family members to corruptly influence others can constitute a bribe

Imagine arguing otherwise. 

That's progressivism, 2023. 

 
 
 
goose is back
Junior Guide
1.6  goose is back  replied to  JBB @1    last year
NOTHING! THEY'VE GOT NOTHING! 

Where in your article have these "CRITICS" explained Hunter Biden receiving millions and millions of dollars for doing nothing and routing it through multiple shell companies to avoid being tracked.   Where is that I must have missed it?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.6.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  goose is back @1.6    last year

original

When Supreme Court Justice's wives, Congressmen's family and even President's kids profit from proximity to powerful relatives it stinks, but it is still legal.

What did JaVonka do to earn Saudi billions?

Whatever, there is zero evidence Joe Biden profited in from Hunter's business. Biden's taxes are public going back for decades...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.6.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.6.1    last year

What services did the Biden Family provide to foreigners in exchange for millions of dollars?

Why does the Biden Family have so many shell companies? Is it to facilitate distribution of foreign money? Is it an effort to hide the money or where it really came from?

Why would anyone employ a crackhead for a lawyer when there are literally over a million of lawyers in the US?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.6.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.6.2    last year

It doesn't matter because it was legal...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.6.4  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.6.3    last year

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Gee, remember when you tout all those investigations and I keep telling you over and over and over that they found NOTHING illegal, but you persist as if they DID find something?

No, THAT damn sure isn't a HUGE steaming pile of sheer HYPOCRISY!!

/s

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.6.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.6.3    last year
It doesn't matter because it was legal...

I really appreciate ALL the thought you put into COMPLETELY avoiding answering!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.6.6  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.6.1    last year

DEFLECTION ALERT!!

 
 
 
goose is back
Junior Guide
1.6.7  goose is back  replied to  JBB @1.6.3    last year
It doesn't matter because it was legal...

What did Hunter do exactly that he was compensated so much? If it was legal, why all the shell companies to move the money around.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.6.9  Texan1211  replied to    last year

lol!

 
 
 
goose is back
Junior Guide
1.6.11  goose is back  replied to    last year
This has all been proven Russian disinformation.

By who......Adam Shift for brains or was it the hookers Hunter was doing the blow off their asses.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.6.13  Texan1211  replied to    last year

now THAT Is funny

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.6.15  Texan1211  replied to    last year

only if he could have produced what he always claimed he had.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.7  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @1    last year

They never have and they never will.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2  Sean Treacy    last year

Yesterday:  Trump colluded with Putin because Trump's company entered into routine  negotiations to license the name Trump Tower to Russians!

today: There's nothing even remotely suspicious about Biden's family taking millions from a Russian oligarch in advance of a dinner with the VP, nor in  other oligarchs/criminals giving the Bidens millions  for no apparent legitimate purpose. !

Suddenly. even  need a notarized receipt  with Biden's signature and "For corruption" written on it won't be enough to concern them. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year

I swear this shit is crazier than anything Hollywood could dream up.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    last year

The Biden cult would actually make a pretty good comedy 

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
2.2  JumpDrive  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year
February 13, 2020, President Trump will be the guest of honor at a Saturday fundraiser at the palatial Palm Beach estate of billionaire Nelson Peltz. Trump’s fellow guests: donors who gave $580,600 per couple to support the president’s reelection, making it the most expensive such fundraising event since Trump took office.

...Since October 2017, Trump has attended at least 48 intimate gatherings with the Republican Party’s elite donors...these events can range from $50,000 to six figures per person.

...shows the special access enjoyed by many of Trump’s wealthiest donors, including business executives and lobbyists, who get the chance to air their grievances with the president’s tariffs or promote their pet projects.

Here they get special access and present pet policies desired. All the Russian got was dinner -- can you show otherwise?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JumpDrive @2.2    last year

You understand the difference between legal campaign  fundraising from American citizens, regulated by the federal government, and illicit million dollar payments to an unregistered lobbyist through offshore corporations by Russian oligarchs, right?  

 
 
 
goose is back
Junior Guide
2.2.2  goose is back  replied to  JumpDrive @2.2    last year
Here they get special access and present pet policies desired.

And why is this important to anyone.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.1    last year

Clearly not.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
2.2.4  JumpDrive  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.1    last year

You miss the point. People with money get to spend it. Switfties pay up to $20,000 for special access to Taylor Swift. Mohammed bin Salman 'invested' $2B of the Saudi Wealth Fund with Jared's Equity fund even though the SWF managers said absolutely no for many reasons. See Jared's purchase of 666 Fifth Ave for more detail on his 'ability', but note that Jared's asskissing of MBS paid off. 

Declaring payments to Hunters Equity fund to be 'illicit' may make you feel good, but it's impotent. You, meaning conservatives, need to stop with the Chicken Little dancing and produce solid evidence on which a grand jury would return an indictment. A conservative specialty is the 'Indictmentless, never-ending Investigation'. See Benghazi, Her emails, ..., and Hunter/Joe.

Here are some people whose work you should examine: Jack Smith, Robert Mueller, Alvin Bragg, Fani Willis.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  JumpDrive @2.2.4    last year

not the money in that account, all the money in Biden Family accounts.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.2.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  JumpDrive @2.2.4    last year
eople with money get to spend it. Switfties pay up to $20,000 for special access to Taylor Swift.

Again, That's legal.  You understand the fundamental difference between legally  buying concert  tickets and illicit million dollar payments to an unregistered lobbyist through offshore corporations by Russian oligarchs, right?  

That you keep equating illegal lobbying by foreign oligarchs with perfectly legal behavior is getting a little ridiculous. 

ents to Hunters Equity fund to be 'illicit' may make you feel good, but it's impotent

Is Hunter Biden a registered foreign agent?

ancing and produce solid evidence on which a grand jury would return an indictment.

You've already admitted the Russian oligarchs  paid Hunter for access to Joe Biden. That's illegal. 

Although the irony of demanding someone produce solid evidence to produce an indictment before an actual criminal investigation takes place is not lost on me. 

 meaning conservatives, need to stop with the Chicken Little dancing 

The irony here. 

ome people whose work you should examin

Why? Your entire argument is laws don't apply to the Bidens, so why would anything they've  done matter? 

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
2.2.7  JumpDrive  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.6    last year
Again, That's legal.

As was MBS's $2B 'investment' in Jared's Affinity Partners. Or all the Trump apartments bought through shell corporations by Russian oligarchs. People can also pay Hunter, which apparently sucks for you. Deal with it.

That you keep equating illegal lobbying by foreign oligarchs...

No illegal lobbying has been shown to occur by or through Hunter. Hunter hired the DC based Blue Star Group, among others, to lobby for Burisma. From the Devon Archer testimony:

Q Is it fair to say that there was a whole D.C. team that handled public affairs on behalf of Burisma?
A Yes.
Q And that D.C. team was firms like Boies Schiller, Blue Star Group, this lobbyist who was brought in to do the DHS issue. Is that fair?
A Fair.

-and-

Mr. Archer. Blue Star was working very hard for their -- so they were -- they were very well engaged with Burisma. They had a lot of problems. There was a lot of work to do...They were brought in and -- and, you know, brought in for other meetings. They were brought in to, you know, have meetings with State Department people. And, you know, they were -- Blue Star was very active with kind of dealing with lower-level, you know, government folks to help advance whatever Burisma was trying to solve for.

You've already admitted the Russian oligarchs paid Hunter for access to Joe Biden. That's illegal.

I've noted that people paid Hunter who was, in part, selling the "Illusion of Access" (from the Devon Archer testimony) to Joe. Joe can have dinner with people to help his son, that is not illegal. Joe gets to talk to whomever he wants. You choose the word 'access' and apparently select the definition 'control of' - again, this may make you feel good, but it is false. From a Hunter laptop email -

"The announcement of my guy's [Joe] upcoming travels should be characterized as part of our advice and thinking -- but what he will say and do is out of our hands. In other words, it could be a really good thing or it could end up creating too great an expectation. We need to temper expectations regarding that visit."

Hunter admits that he has *NO* control over his father's actions. Deal with it.

Your entire argument is laws don't apply to the Bidens

My entire argument is that this investigation is like the previous ones in that there's lots of dancing around and pseudo-bombshells, but nothing substantive on which a grand jury would return an indictment. Conservatives know this, but like Benghazi & Her emails, it's a distraction. So completely on brand.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  JumpDrive @2.2.7    last year

almost everyone knows what Hunter was selling.

Access to Joe.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
2.2.9  JumpDrive  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.8    last year
almost everyone knows what Hunter was selling. Access to Joe.

I may as well take this opportunity to point out something that should be obvious by now. Knowing who to talk to in DC and who will reliably represent you requires insider knowledge. Knowledge that someone like Hunter actually has. He is the one who knew which firms in DC Burisma needed and he hired them for Burisma. Yes, Hunter was also selling the Illusion of Access to the VP, but there is absolutely no indication that this bore any fruit whatsoever.

If you've ever tried to get a government contract, you know that it is pretty much impossible unless you know someone or you pay an intro firm to get you in the door. Hunter's firm got in the door because of his name, and conservatives want Hunter to be just Joe's son. Devon Archer's testimony completely blows that up. Surprise, surprise.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  JumpDrive @2.2.9    last year
Yes, Hunter was also selling the Illusion of Access to the VP,

Illusion???????

Yeah, r-i-g-h-t.

One must necessarily be pretty damn gullible or clueless to think that Hunter was selling anything OTHER than access to pappy.

But it is a real pleasure to see what liberals have managed to spin thus far, and I am really looking forward to more of it. Some of it can be downright creative!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3  Texan1211    last year

Joe Biden has been caught in his own lies.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4  Texan1211    last year

I wonder how many other politician's kids had expensive cars bought for them by foreigners?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
4.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @4    last year

They are just trying to get “green” cars.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5  Texan1211    last year

If anyone truly believes that Joe Biden is completely clueless about his son's business dealings, I have some coastal property for sale in Oklahoma!

And trust me when I say I know how easy it is to believe that joe is clueless!

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
5.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Texan1211 @5    last year

Then prove it. Shouldn’t be that hard. Amazing how the entirety of the GOP political apparatus, including when Trump was president, hasn’t come up with anything. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.1    last year
Then prove it.

People are currently working to do just that.

Shouldn’t be that hard.

It shouldn't be. Hunter wasn't exactly the most discreet person, you know, and Joe can't keep his stories straight.

Amazing how the entirety of the GOP political apparatus, including when Trump was president, hasn’t come up with anything. 

That's funny as hell. The Justice Dept. didn't do much while Trump was in office regarding investigations. And then when it did become more involved, tried to give Hunter one HELL of a sweetheart deal that an astute judge threw out.

Almost as funny as you claiming NOTHING has been found!

Hell, just the idea that a real investigation may take place was enough for the Biden WH to change its little story!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.1    last year

You should start by articulating a crime to accuse Joe Biden of because your vague-ass baseless accusations about some unnamed Biden family members getting millions from foreign businesses is just blowing smoke. Show Us Your Evidence!

So what if Joe Biden's cousin sells corn oil to a Yugoslavian?

You have no proof Joe Biden participated in malfeasances...

What you imagine or would "bet on" is completely nonsense!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.1.2    last year
You should start by articulating a crime to accuse Joe Biden of because your vague-ass baseless accusations about some unnamed Biden family members getting millions from foreign businesses is just blowing smoke. Show Us Your Evidence!

Show you evidence?

Oh, so NOW evidence is important? LOL!

Have you watched the news or read a paper?

I will ask you what no one has attempted to answer:

What do you think Hunter Biden was selling if not access to his father?

What services were provided by Biden Family members for the millions they received?

Why do Bidens need shell companies and multiple bank accounts?

And why did Joe Biden lie?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
5.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @5.1.2    last year
What you imagine or would "bet on" is completely nonsense!

I imagine that it's a major part of why the June NBC poll found that 48% of those surveyed held a negative view of the president and 39% had a positive view. Another 12% were neutral.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.1.2    last year

Hunter Biden is being or has been investigated by the IRS, the Justice Department, and Congress. 

And all investigations into him were legally predicated.

Hunter did some business with Russians, Chinese, and Ukrainians. I wonder if any of them were spies?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
5.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.5    last year

Romanians as well?  Hunter gets around.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6  Texan1211    last year

I wonder how many shell companies are registered under a Biden name?

Why would the Bidens--with no discernible businesses---need shell companies other than to route foreign money through their accounts?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7  Texan1211    last year
Critics Don't See It

Removing their partisan blinders would work wonders in improving their vision.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
8  Thrawn 31    last year

For the 1 millionth time, take it to court. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1  Texan1211  replied to  Thrawn 31 @8    last year
For the 1 millionth time, take it to court. 

Patience, grasshopper, patience.

These things take time!

 
 

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