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Nation Torn Between Being Mad Biden Never Shows Up For Work And Being Glad He Never Shows Up For Work

  

Category:  Satire

Via:  gregtx  •  last year  •  56 comments

Nation Torn Between Being Mad Biden Never Shows Up For Work And Being Glad He Never Shows Up For Work
U.S. — As the United States enters the 33rd month of Joe Biden's presidency, the American people expressed conflicted feelings, with most people torn between being angry the president never shows up for work and being relieved he never shows up for work.

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U.S. — As the United States enters the 33rd month of Joe Biden's presidency, the American people expressed conflicted feelings, with most people torn between being angry the president never shows up for work and being relieved he never shows up for work.

"I'm not sure which one is worse," said concerned citizen Cliff Martin. "I mean, on one hand, it's an outrage that the leader of the United States spends so much of his time on vacation — while parts of the country literally get burned or flooded — but on the other hand, it might actually be a lot worse if he showed up to work more regularly. Either way, I wish I could afford food. That would be nice."

Though some segments of the public have voiced anger over the fact that President Biden has spent an astounding 40% of his time in office on vacation, others point to the unmitigated havoc he has managed to wreak while reporting to work just over half the time. "Can you imagine the damage he would do if he spent less time on vacation?" asked commercial driver Ryan Kitchen. "How high would gas prices be? How many people would be unemployed? How many more proxy wars would we be involved in? Think of the carnage! The thought of him taking fewer days off keeps me awake at night."

At publishing time, sources within the White House had given assurances that there are currently no plans in place for Joe Biden to begin spending any more time actually performing any of the duties expected of a president.


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GregTx
Professor Guide
1  seeder  GregTx    last year

512

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
2  Right Down the Center    last year

Are you sure this is satire?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    last year

I was thinking the same thing. Why is it satire when it's the truth?

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
2.2  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    last year

Pretty sure that it's based on a poll....

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
2.2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  GregTx @2.2    last year

I wouldn't be surprised.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3  JumpDrive    last year

Why oh why
Couldn’t time have gone by
Such that this seed would apply
To the former guy? 

No supply side tax cut adding trillions to the debt, no additional weapons grade uranium in the hands of religious fanatics, no impromptu trade war to devastate farmers and drive manufacturing into recession, no epic mismanagement of the pandemic resulting in the avoidable deaths of 500K Americans...

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
3.2  Ronin2  replied to  JumpDrive @3    last year

Reality takes a permanent holiday with your statement.

No supply side tax cut adding trillions to the debt

Also no Afghanistan War- don't worry Brandon has the US money and military hardware now going down the Ukraine sink hole. Covid is over- well except for the part Brandon and the Democrats don't want it to be. Talks about masks, lock downs, and government stimulus are making their rounds through the Democrat party and talking heads. Must be election time; and those leftist couch potatoes living in their parent's basements need another cash infusion. That isn't including his attempted college loan forgiveness give away.

The American Rescue Plan, a $1.9 trillion stimulus package, and the Inflation Reduction Act are two of the largest pieces of legislation signed into law under Biden. Additionally, he recently signed an executive order canceling some federal student loans, a suspension in payments the CBO estimates will cost $400 billion. “I think the point here is if you weren’t worried before about the debt before, you should be — and if you were worried before, you should be even more worried,” Owen Zidar, a Princeton economist, told the Associated Press. Historically, the cost of servicing U.S. debt has been manageable as interest rates have remained low, but some critics worry that these conditions may not last. “Washington has engaged in a long-term debt spree and been fortunate to be bailed out by low interest rates up to this point,” Brian Riedl, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, told The New York Times. “But the Treasury never locked in those low rates long term, and now rising rates may collide with that escalating debt with horribly expensive results.” Read more at:
no additional weapons grade uranium in the hands of religious fanatics,

Cough, cough, cough, cough Iran. Cough, cough, cough, Saudi Arabia looking to get into the market.

Iran has enough highly enriched uranium to build “several” nuclear weapons if it chooses, the United Nations’ top nuclear official is now warning. But diplomatic efforts aimed at again limiting its atomic program seem more unlikely than ever before as Tehran arms Russia in its war on Ukraine and as unrest shakes the Islamic Republic.

he warning from Rafael Mariano Grossi of the International Atomic Energy Agency, in response to questions from European lawmakers this week, shows just how high the stakes have become over Iran’s nuclear program. Even at the height of previous tensions between the West and Iran under hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad before the 2015 nuclear deal, Iran never enriched uranium as high as it does now.

For months, nonproliferation experts have suggested Iran had enough uranium enriched up to 60 percent to build at least one nuclear weapon — though Tehran long has insisted its program is for peaceful purposes. While offering a caveat on Tuesday that “we need to be extremely careful” in describing Iran’s program, Grossi bluntly acknowledged just how large Tehran’s high-enriched uranium stockpile had grown.

“One thing is true: They have amassed enough nuclear material for several nuclear weapons, not one at this point,” Grossi said.

no impromptu trade war to devastate farmers and drive manufacturing into recession,

Half truths are the only things leftists know.

The president’s statements do, however, check out on his other point. American farmers have indeed laid claim to nearly all his China tariff revenue, which now totals $66 billion. In 2018 and ’19, Trump authorized payments to U.S. farmers of $28 billion to offset their losses from Chinese trade retaliation. This year, with farmers struggling under the twin crises of the trade war and the pandemic, bailouts have soared way higher. Trump promised angry farmers another $19 billion in April and $14 billion in September—bringing his bailouts to a grand total of $61 billion. He has pledged to continue these bailouts until the trade war ends.

Brandon kept Trump's tariffs on China. Doh!

But more than two years into his term, President Biden has kept the tariffs. They are under review, but experts say there is little political room for him to get rid of them altogether.

Brandon love's Xi. Too bad for him Congress doesn't.

no epic mismanagement of the pandemic resulting in the avoidable deaths of 500K Americans...

Brandon inherited the "vaccines" and therapeutics to fight Covid- two things Trump forced through. More people died under his watch than Trump's from Covid.

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Maybe I need to blow up the chart a little more? In case you missed the numbers- under 400,000 people died under Trump's watch- while 600,000 have died under Brandon's. But Trump gets the blame for mismanaging Covid from the left. jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

Even when things are stacked in his favor- Brandon fucks it up.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.2.1  JumpDrive  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2    last year

Thank you for the opportunity to slice and dice. I don’t know if I’ll do all your nonsense, but let’s start in inverse order with COVID.

We know from the Feb 7, 2020 Woodward interview that Trump knew the virus was both much more contagious and much more fatal that the Flu. Yet, he lied about the pandemic for another 4-5 weeks, telling us it would just go away in April. During that time NYC & Northern NJ were massively infected from Europe. Hospitals were overflowing, the Jacob Javits Center was converted into a 1,000 bed hospital, other NYC hospitals set up tents for the overflow. FEMA sent 85 refrigerated truck trailers to be used as temporary morgues.

Trump refused to use the Defense Production Act to make the PPE hospitals needed, let alone the public because he didn’t want people wearing masks, the idiot thought you could actually lie and cover up the pandemic. Capitalism stepped in and made the PPE. Trump’s response was to politicize the wearing of masks. Conservative morons ran around taking no precautions and throwing tantrums.

Trump refused to take overall coordinating responsibility for the pandemic and threw it to the governors. The very next day he tweeted to his moron minions to resist any attempts to mitigate the pandemic. And those idiots rose to the occasion. Trump also pushed nonsense cures, like hydroxychloroquine, sunshine, bleach,… Republican politicians and conservative media attempted to mitigate his stupidity by vilifying the CDC, Fauci & Birx. So, the moron minions got their info from a malignantly narcissistic idiot rather than the CDC.

Early in the Pandemic I saw an interview with a German minister. He was asked why Germany was doing so much better than the US. He looked puzzled for a moment and then said he didn’t know but that Germany was doing what the US CDC said to do. Germany does not have a big department like the CDC.

When the vaccines became available the CDC immediately began pushing them. But, the vilification of the CDC and some ridiculous notion of freedom resulted in widespread resistance by conservatives. A godsend was not used by a huge subset of the population.

By November of 2021, 10 months into the Biden presidency, something truly unexpected happened. At the beginning of the pandemic blacks were 60% more likely to die if they got COVID than whites. That November, the per capita death rate in whites exceeded that of blacks. This was cause by widespread refusal to take the vaccine by conservative whites.

In early 2022, late Jan or Feb, I looked at the vaccination rates: Democrats were at 92% vs. Republicans at 54%. Ds were way above herd immunity, Rs were way below.

I felt sorry for Biden. The pandemic should have ended in Nov 2021 because by that time the vaccine was available to everyone who was in real danger. But the Rs had been so corrupted by the Trump presidency that they were sacrificing conservatives; still attempting to make Trump look good.

...under 400,000 people died under Trump's watch- while 600,000 have died under Brandon's. But Trump gets the blame for mismanaging Covid from the left.

Your simple analysis of when people died is a pathetic attempt to cover up why they died. Biden inherited an incredible mess from Trump. The Fed had already pulled $3T out of its butt to prop up the markets, Congress had allocated another $3T to help businesses and the public. Conservative media was pushing vaccine hesitancy daily -- see Carlson, Ingraham, Bongino, Rogan,...

When Trump took office I found it terrifying because I’ve been aware of him for 35 years. He has every negative attribute imaginable, but his primary attribute is stupidity. You don’t know anyone as stupid as Trump. His handling of the classified documents is a master class in stupid - it would have been nothing for anyone else. Using a marker to extend a NOAA map — a middle-schooler wouldn’t do that. Lying about a highly contagious disease to try to hide it… When he was elected I was worried that something might happen that would require leadership. We made it through 3 years and then our luck ran out. The massive COVID death count was caused by Trump, a president who was epically unfit morally, intellectually, psychologically and temperamentally. And, his blind support by the R ecosystem.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  JumpDrive @3.2.1    last year

Thank you so much for that fantastic breakdown of how the former 'president' needlessly caused so many deaths due to his not handling Co-Vid and then throwing it to the states to handle and favoring red state governors, etc. as much as possible.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  JumpDrive @3.2.1    last year

P.S. I have certain members on ignore as their comments are a total denial of reality and I just cannot stand the ignorance.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.2.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JumpDrive @3.2.1    last year

Funny that Ronin used verifiable charts and figures that conclusively showed that more people in fact died under Biden's watch then they did under Trump. You, on the other hand just threw out figures without citing any real sources.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.2.6  George  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.2.4    last year

What’s even more telling is Biden had a vaccine his entire presidency, and the worthless partisans still blame trump for the abysmal Biden death count. Obviously Biden couldn’t lead. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.2.7  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  George @3.2.6    last year

"Obviously Biden couldn't lead."

What's changed? He still can't.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.2.8  JumpDrive  replied to  George @3.2.6    last year
Biden had a vaccine his entire presidency

Is it really that difficult for you and Ed-NavDoc to grasp that if you don't get vaccinated then the existence of the vaccine doesn't help you much?

In early 2022, I saw an interview with the Chief of Staff of a Baton Rouge LA Hospital. The hospital was inundated by the Omicron surge. She was asked to categorize the COVID patients. She said most were unvaccinated, the rest were vaccinated but had multiple co-morbidities. She didn't bother mentioning any other categories. This caused me to Google vaccination rates by political party, only 54% of Rs were vaccinated whereas 92% of Ds. At this point there shouldn't be very many unvaccinated people, and her hospital shouldn't have been full.

I can imagine Biden's disgust with the vaccine hesitancy nonsense. But, not wearing a mask and not getting vaccinated became ways of showing fidelity to Trump. On the other side of the world, people in Japan, Taiwan, South Korea & Vietnam wore their masks religiously and correctly and then took the vaccine. It is unreasonable to expect this level of civid responsibility and mutual obligation from Americans, but we would have done a lot better if anyone else who ran in 2016 had been elected president. Japan did the worst of the countries mentioned, Japan had a per capita COVID death rate about 1/5 ours; that would be almost 900,000 fewer dead Americans. The East Asians rightly saw the conservative behavior as incredibly stupid.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.2.9  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JumpDrive @3.2.8    last year

FYI, I've been vaccinated four times already and still had a case of COVID two months ago.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
3.2.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.2.9    last year

I got it in April after having all the allowed vaccinations and boosters.  I only had two bad days of symptoms.  I hope that yours were mild.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.2.11  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.10    last year

Fortunately it was. About the same level as a head cold that lasted two weeks or so,

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.2.12  George  replied to  JumpDrive @3.2.8    last year

Do you still not realize that Biden had every advantage and still killed more people than trump? Do you still not realize a true leader would have been able to get people to vaccinate? Biden has no leadership skills, his entire life is an empty barrel filled with lies.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.2.13  JumpDrive  replied to  George @3.2.12    last year
Do you still not realize a true leader would have been able to get people to vaccinate?

This is a stupid statement. The idiots who bleat about their 'freedoms' and don't get vaccinated could not even be reached by their 'true leader' Trump; they booed him when he suggested they get vaccinated. Republican Politicians and Media have corrupted these people and only they have even a chance of fixing this. Once you instill a prejudice in a cult, the process of fixing that is long and hard. None of these idiots will pay any attention to Biden.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.2.14  George  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.2.9    last year

Sorry to hear that Ed, long Covid has been difficult, I guess funding gain of function with the CCP wasn’t the best move.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.2.15  George  replied to  JumpDrive @3.2.13    last year

And again, Biden had vaccines the entire time! Biden also had half the population vaccinated and or getting boosters and still killed more than Trump, how can anyone actually defend that? What level of partisanship does that take?

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.2.16  JumpDrive  replied to  George @3.2.12    last year
Biden has no leadership skills, his entire life is an empty barrel filled with lies.

Another stupid statement; the empty filled barrel analogy isn't helping you. Biden got us out of Afghanistan, got us a $1.7T infrastructure bill, the CHIPS Act to secure our access to leading edge tech, the Inflation Reduction Act which has resulted in massive private investment in renewables and the jobs that go with that, the lowest unemployment in 50 years, inflation that's half what Europe is experiencing, allowing Medicare to negotiate the price of drugs (the gift to the drug manufacturers version that GWB enacted cost us almost twice as much), the DOW is 20% higher than 2019, the average hourly wage is 45% higher than 2019, and the first gun violence reduction legislation in 30 years. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
3.2.17  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JumpDrive @3.2.16    last year

You forgot that he will have doubled the annual deficit from 2022 to 2023.  Is all this federal spending priming the inflation pump?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.2.18  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.17    last year

Oh darn, there you go injecting logic and common sense!

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.2.19  George  replied to  JumpDrive @3.2.16    last year

More examples of partisanship, somebody helps dementia joe spell his name on a Bill passed by congress. And partisans give the old fool credit for it. 

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.2.20  JumpDrive  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2    last year
no additional weapons grade uranium in the hands of religious fanatics,
Cough, cough, cough, cough Iran. Cough, cough, cough, Saudi Arabia looking to get into the market.

You've misinterpreted my original post. I mused that if Trump had done nothing, then he wouldn't have abrogated JCPOA and Iran would not have restarted its enrichment program, so there would be "no additional weapons grade uranium in the hands of religious fanatics". Trump is the sole reason this has happened.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.2.21  JumpDrive  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2    last year
Also no Afghanistan War- don't worry Brandon has the US money and military hardware now going down the Ukraine sink hole.

This is dangerously shortsighted. I watched Nikki Haley hand Ramaswamy his ass on this issue during the Republican Debate. You should look at that exchange, here's my take:

Russia is committing all manner of atrocities in Ukraine. Ukraine supplies about a third of the world’s exported grain. Putin has used natural gas and oil as weapons, he will use food as well if we allow him access to it. Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal as part of becoming a free nation, then a nuclear power attacked them. If allowed to succeed, the rest of the world will know that nuclear weapons are the only guaranty of sovereignty. Both Russia & China are empire builders, tolerating this nonsense brought us two world wars. The free world needs to unequivocally say no to empire builders. The Ukrainians are showing that they value freedom, and that freedom is really a better way. We just spent 7,500 lives and $4.25T on two moronic wars — here’s a chance using no American blood and a relatively small amount of money to reaffirm that Democracy is the better way and empire building has no future. There are many other reasons to support the Ukrainians, let's do that. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.22  Tessylo  replied to  JumpDrive @3.2.8    last year

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JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.2.23  JumpDrive  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.17    last year

Conservatives borrow money to enrich they already rich and fund useless military adventures. Biden is borrowing to rebuild our decrepit infrastructure, to insure our access to the latest integrated circuits, to get more people healthcare, and to create jobs by getting huge private investment in renewables. Hopefully Dems will hold the presidency and we'll get t see how these investments affect the deficit.

Conservatives should avoid talking about deficits:

gov’t borrowing after Carter $90B/year (the deficit) 
after Reagan/Bush I $347B (+285%)
after Clinton $113B              (-67%)
after Bush II $1,400B           (+1200%)
after Obama $670B              (-52%)
after Trump $1,484B             (+120%)

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
3.2.24  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JumpDrive @3.2.23    last year
Conservatives borrow money to enrich they already rich and fund useless military adventures.

Tell me about Biden’s 2024 military budget request.  How about his Ukrainian supplemental request?

Conservatives should avoid talking about deficits

Because they will fix themselves?

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
3.2.25  seeder  GregTx  replied to  JumpDrive @3.2.23    last year

Okay...

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
3.3  seeder  GregTx  replied to  JumpDrive @3    last year
..no additional weapons grade uranium in the hands of religious fanatics..

Yet despite your concerns about this and the border, your response is "but Trump"? Why oh why indeed...

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.3.1  JumpDrive  replied to  GregTx @3.3    last year

I don't understand why you quoted the result of the abrogation of JCPOA, and then talked about my concerns with the borders.  The abrogation of JCPOA was diplomatic vandalism, and definitely Trump. I don't think I've ever blamed the immigration problems on Trump. I've said "But congress" a number of times. Our asylum laws require us to give anyone who asks for it a hearing. The current volume makes this impossible; it has to change. The Visa overstay path appears to be just as big a problem and must be addressed.

The problem I have with Trump is his presentation of a wall as a viable solution. It's not. When Republican William Hurd ran for Congressman of the Texas 23rd District (40+% of our southern border) in 2016, he won with an anti-wall platform. He said a wall is "a 3rd-century solution to a 21st-century problem" and "In fact, building a wall from sea to shining sea would be the most expensive and least effective way to secure the border." Trump harps on the wall because it's something simple that Rs can understand. But, even though he had the House and Senate in 2017, they didn't fund his wall -- they knew it was stupid. Our illegal immigration problem is NOT simple, the wall is a distraction that Republicans are hung up on and we desperately need to move beyond that.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.3.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JumpDrive @3.3.1    last year

Your commentary makes it obvious you live neither on or anywhere close to our Southwestern border. If you did, you'd probably have a different take than you do on the wall and border issues I and other residents face on a daily basis.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.3.3  JumpDrive  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.3.2    last year

Where I live does not change the fact that a wall is not an effective solution. When Trump was elected I noticed that the Republican House & Senate were not funding his wall. I wondered why. I found that every Congressional Representative from the 9 districts on our southern border was against more wall. Walls don't work against people. People know how to use ropes, ladders, shovels, reciprocating saws, planes, ... A wall would also cut off access to the Rio Grande and severely harm border towns' economies that are tied to sister towns in Mexico. We have a big problem to which a wall is not a solution.

The reason our Constitution is very good is that it was created by the elite of the elites. Instead of denigrating these people as we do now, we need to tap their abilities to find and put in place an actual solution. Unfortunately, the current state of affairs is useful to Republicans who use it to beat on Democratic Presidents, and then pound their chests about the nothing they're doing when we have a Republican President. If you're happy with this situation, then by all means, keep asking for more wall.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.3.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JumpDrive @3.3.3    last year

Thank you for proving my point. You have a good day and a Happy Labor Day to you.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.3.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.4    last year

Yep, then they scream, moan, and run around in circles with their hands up in the air!

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.3.7  George  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.3.5    last year

It’s like that hypocrite Kennedy, promoting wind power until it is in his backyard, then he blocks it. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.3.8  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  George @3.3.7    last year

Yep.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
3.3.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  George @3.3.7    last year

Here in the Nation’s Capital the fine Blue folks on the West End are fighting the building rehab for a homeless shelter.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.3.10  George  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.3.9    last year

Of course, if there was only a precinct that voted for trump, then they could identify it’s new location.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.3.11  JumpDrive  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.4    last year
The NIMBY crowd ignores reality on the border...

Texas has 1250 miles of the southern border's 1950 miles with Mexico. Texas has more miles of wall than New Mexico, Arizona and California combined. Oh wait, my bad, Texas has less wall, most of the wall on the southern border is in the other states.

The Texas border is mostly unfenced because of treaty provisions, private-property rights, litigation and floodplains. Fencing was easier to build in New Mexico, Arizona and California, where the federal government controls a 60-foot-wide strip of land adjacent to the border.

Well Texan1211, it looks like actual Texans have spoken to your NIMBY complaint, just not in the way you & Ed-NavDoc would have people believe.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.3.12  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JumpDrive @3.3.11    last year

We are not going to agree here so how about we just agree to disagree and let it go. You have a good evening.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
3.3.13  seeder  GregTx  replied to  JumpDrive @3.3.1    last year
I've said "But congress" a number of times...

Congress is not responsible for the enforcement of immigration laws... or perhaps you weren't aware of that?..

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.3.14  JBB  replied to  GregTx @3.3.13    last year

Congress writes/passes immigration laws.

Or, in the current Congress's case, doesn't!

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
3.3.15  seeder  GregTx  replied to  JBB @3.3.14    last year

Perhaps you could remind me.. when is the last time significant immigration laws were passed?....

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
3.3.16  seeder  GregTx  replied to  JBB @3.3.14    last year

Which branch is charged with enforcement of those immigration laws?...

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.3.17  JumpDrive  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.3.12    last year

Sorry, but there's nothing to disagree about. I been telling you that people on the border don't want the walls and you've been posting that if I lived there my opinion would be different. Well, in Arizona, New Mexico & California the Federal Gov't owns a strip of land against the border and put a lot of walls on it. The locals don't want walls, but have no choice. In Texas where the land is mostly privately owned, the locals have a choice -- and that choice is no wall.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.3.18  Ed-NavDoc  impassed  JumpDrive @3.3.17    last year
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JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.3.19  JumpDrive  replied to  GregTx @3.3.13    last year
Congress is not responsible for the enforcement of immigration laws... or perhaps you weren't aware of that?..

Congress needs to give Biden the tools to handle the current problem. We have a system designed for rain being asked to manage a monsoon. People need to stop being useless and force their representatives to work out a solution.

Biden expanded Title 42 expulsions as soon as he took office and used it until it ran out this year. Republicans tried to extend it and the courts said no, the pandemic is over. Biden has arranged with Mexico to reroute people trying for the US. Biden changed the asylum policy earlier this year to require people seeking asylum to ask for it in countries they pass through. US law sets no limit on asylum seekers and says asylum seekers must be given a chance to present their case.

Remember those migrants DeSantis sent from Texas to Martha's vineyard? They were mostly asylum seekers from Peru. They had rights granted by current laws. Biden has extremely limited options because CONGRESS will not move on this problem. It apparently gives you a warm feeling to blame Biden, but as you said he can only enforce the laws. Trump's cruelty in dealing with the problem may have tickled your pleasure center, but it resulted in law suits that the DOJ has to deal with, and it was unsustainable, and the number of people coming has tripled since then.

In case you still don't get it, Biden is enforcing the laws. Laws written for a different time and a much smaller problem.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.3.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  JumpDrive @3.3.19    last year
Congress needs to give Biden the tools to handle the current problem. Biden has extremely limited options because CONGRESS wi

 This is gaslighting. The  Biden admin has spent all of its time since taking office using  every discretionary power it has to avoid enforcing the laws on the book. The obvious response is for Biden to enforce the laws without as written without exercising  prosecutorial discretion. Start with actually enforcing laws rather than working to get around them

That aside, it's rich to see the party that Controlled the executive and legislative  branches of government when this crises started and refused to do anything about the issue now, and only now, claim something should be done.  Not to mention the same party that has fought tooth and nail against any legislation that does improve border security and not just serve as amnesty.

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
3.3.22  JumpDrive  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3.20    last year
This is gaslighting.

This is BS. About 400K were apprehended at the southern border in 2020 (COVID year). About 3.7M were apprehended in 2021 & 2022. Title 42 was used to expel 2.8M during that time, so at least 2.4M were expelled during the Biden Presidency using Title 42. Does that sound like he's bending over backwards to admit people? Once they ask for asylum his options disappear.

The Biden administration has declared that migrants are automatically ineligible for asylum if they enter the United States illegally or fail to seek asylum in another country on their route (A two year stopgap imposed May 2023).

Trump tried to do this, but was blocked by the court. Biden had it rewritten to address the court's complaint about providing the path for asylum as provided by our laws.

the Biden administration has also partnered with the Colombian and Panamanian governments to create regional processing centers to screen migrants who could be eligible to enter the US legally

Biden is trying to do this within the law.

I never put the blame entirely on Republicans for Congress's inaction. Congress, both Rs & Ds, don't seem to want to do anything. I'm just disgusted with people blaming Biden for the results of a set of obsolete laws. Do something useful, get your representative to push for an immigration update.

Conservatives are still bleating about a wall. I posted elsewhere in this seed showing that people on the border who actually can control whether or not there's a wall, i.e. most of Texas and none of the other three states, have almost no walls. Why aren't you guys roasting Abbott for his abject failure to get a wall in place? 

 
 

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