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Trump’s Menacing Rosh Hashanah Message to American Jews

  

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Via:  hallux  •  2 months ago  •  52 comments

By:   Yair Rosenberg - The Atlantic

Trump’s Menacing Rosh Hashanah Message to American Jews

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


Like most politicians, former President Donald Trump marked the occasion of Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish new year, by passing along holiday greetings to American Jews. Unlike most politicians, Trump used the opportunity to threaten them.

On Sunday evening, just as Rosh Hashanah was coming to a close, Trump   posted   a meme on his social-media platform, Truth Social, excoriating “liberal Jews” who had “voted to destroy America.” (Majorities of American Jews have   voted   for Democrats since before World War II.) “Let’s hope you learned from your mistake,” the caption continued, “and make better choices going forward!”

Trump’s Rosh Hashanah broadside was far from the first time that he had   shared objectionable sentiments   about Jewish people. But it was particularly ugly in the way it deliberately singled out a specific constituency during that constituency’s holiest season. As the conservative writer Philip Klein   wrote   in   National Review , “Color me skeptical that Trump’s defenders would be so understanding if Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer were to post a Merry Christmas message … blaming Christian conservatives for destroying America because they didn’t vote for Democrats.”

Read: Why Trump can’t answer questions about anti-Semitism

But while Trump’s message may be offensive, it is also instructive, because it reflects the way that many people think about Jews. Some anti-Semites treat Jewish people as a menacing monolith that   suborns society   to its sinister ends. But others divide the community into “good Jews,” who warrant respect and provisional protection, and “bad Jews,” who can be subjected to all manner of abuse. In this construction, the righteous Jews are those who affirm the bigot and support his worldview, while the unworthy ones are those who stubbornly refuse to get with the program. Like other minorities, the Jewish minority is expected to conform to the preferences of a dominant majority culture—whether that is political or religious—and those who dissent become fair game for denunciation and discrimination.

Sometimes, as in Trump’s case, this distinction between good Jews and bad ones is made along partisan lines. In other instances, bigots draw the line geographically between the Jews in Israel and those outside it, with one community venerated and the other denigrated. This is why former Republican Congressman Steve King  pointed  to his support for Israel when criticized over his  sympathy  for the white nationalists who assail Jews in North America. For the same reason, Ken Livingstone, the socialist former mayor of London and inveterate critic of the Jewish state, infamously  insisted  that “a real anti-Semite doesn’t just hate the Jews in Israel.” For a certain type of bigot, the fact that they deprecate only the  right  kind of Jews means they cannot be a bigot.

This Semitic sorting never ends well, because justifications for abusing Jews have a way of metastasizing. Permission structures for anti-Semitism are rarely restricted to their original target. Once a society starts accepting attacks on entire swaths of Jews—for being too liberal,   too religious , too secular, too pro-Israel, too anti-Israel, too whatever—that acceptance will grow. And when Jewish existence becomes conditional on staying in the good graces of a non-Jewish actor or movement, it becomes an impoverished existence—provisional and precarious, forever looking over its shoulder.

James Kirchick: Leave Jews out of it

This is why true friends of the Jewish people don’t pick which half of the world’s Jews are the good ones and which half are the bad ones, like some sort of anti-Semitic Santa Claus. They do not paint millions of Jewish people with Manichaean moral strokes, but rather grant them the dignity of their diversity and judge individuals as individuals, not as avatars for their group. Those who, like Trump and King, make lists of bad Jews or suggest that Jews aren’t proper Jews if they don’t adopt a certain ideology are not allies of the Jews. They’re the people laying the groundwork for persecution.


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Hallux
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1  seeder  Hallux    2 months ago

My mother was an anti-semite throughout much of her early life, it took most of the rest to overcome it and yet it would still sneakout insidiously.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1    2 months ago

trump is locking down the white xtian moron vote for 2024.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.1.1  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 months ago

Once one falls for the huge god lie, all others are easy.

Will never, ever trust a religionist about anything.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @1.1.1    2 months ago
Will never, ever trust a religionist about anything.

Damn, you must REALLY not trust Biden then, seeing as how he is probably the single most devout President ever. He attended Catholic Mass almost daily, attended black churches, and was practically raised in a synagogue.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.2  cjcold  replied to  Hallux @1    2 months ago

Back in my Denver days lived with a beautiful Jewish princess in an old Jewish castle. Met a bunch of her old Jewish friends.

We never once talked about religion. It was a non-thing. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.1  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @1.2    2 months ago

one of my 2 best friends in high school was jewish and I never knew it until after he died 3 years ago. then again, I'm not even sure to this day exactly what evangelical cult my family was officially a part of...

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.2.2  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @1.2    2 months ago

She was from Philly and I was from KC. We argued football. 

And we were both Elway/Bronco fans. 

Lost touch with her over ten years ago so..................... 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.2.3  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @1.2.1    2 months ago

How can Kelce and Swift ever have a relationship?

She's an Eagles fan!

Chiefs 38  Eagles 35  in the last Superbowl.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @1.2.3    2 months ago

maybe she's looking for more consistency when it comes to putting it thru the uprights...

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2.5  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @1.2.4    2 months ago

That was never our problem.

My problem was she had one too many placekickers.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.6  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @1.2.5    2 months ago

you've obviously never spent the day shopping with a woman, have you?

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     2 months ago

Typical of Trump disgusting as it is.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    2 months ago

Seems to me if you hate the liberal Jews of America, what is your justification for supporting Israel? Especially if you are a white nationalist

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    2 months ago

dammit! you know those mackerel snappers and thumpers hold sole dominion over the jewish convert or kill program. the bible doesn't say anything about jewish americans. you know how rwnj's love their loopholes and technicalities.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.1  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @3.1    2 months ago

Don't even get me started about Jewish space lasers!

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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3.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    2 months ago

To bring about Armageddon.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.2    2 months ago

You wouldn't think that American Nazi's would buy into that Chrisitian mumbo jumbo. The White Chritians Nationalists...yeah I can see that with them

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.2.2  cjcold  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.2    2 months ago
To bring about Armageddon

Anthropogenic global warming is doing that already.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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3.2.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.1    2 months ago

I think that's a Venn diagram with a lot of overlap.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4  Ronin2    2 months ago

Leftists have zero room to comment after letting Brandon go on this one.

/

As for Trump.

Name one thing Brandon or Democrats have done for Israel or Jews for that matter. Just one.

They have more anti-Semitic members in the squad than Republicans do in their entire party. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1  Texan1211  replied to  Ronin2 @4    2 months ago
Name one thing Brandon or Democrats have done for Israel or Jews for that matter. Just one.

Well, we now know that along with attending Catholic mass almost every day, and attending black churches, our illustrious President ALSO was practically raised in a synagogue. Seriously, he wasn't kidding.

Obviously Joe Biden is THE most devout President EVER.

Doesn't that count for something?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1    2 months ago

David Ignatius drew them a road map. If they can't convince him not to run, this country might just recover.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    2 months ago

Oh, Biden will run.

Democrats have no one else who can win.

I don't think America is stupid enough to ever vote for Kamala as President (hell, even Democrats thoroughly rejected her for that role, so you just know she is unqualified), Kennedy is hated by many Dems, AOC is a divisive idiot, and Newsome is too busy being a Biden sycophant to rock the boat.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5  Gsquared    2 months ago

American Jews' message to Trump:  Gay kaken ofn yahm!

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.1  cjcold  replied to  Gsquared @5    2 months ago

Does that mean FOAD asshole?

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.1  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @5.1    2 months ago

google translate says it means "go take a shit in the ocean", so basically, yeah...

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5.1.2  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @5.1.1    2 months ago

It's one of the finest Yiddish curses.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  cjcold @5.1    2 months ago
Does that mean FOAD asshole?

Yep.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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6  bbl-1    2 months ago

Trump is on the attack.  That is his main deflection, all he knows.  If he ever has to sit in a courtroom for hours in any of his cases the implosion will be the best TV ever broadcast anywhere in the World.  If I were him I'd nail down an iron clad 'mental defect' defense immediately and just maybe he can spend the rest of his tortured life on house arrest bumbling around Mar-a-Lago.  Fitting end to an imposter who didn't really win in 2016 and got away with it.  In 2020 even the Arizona Cyber Ninjas couldn't save the lout.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @6    2 months ago
That is his main deflection, all he knows

Not the first time I have heard this claim.

How does anything he does deflect from his upcoming trials?

Do you expect him to talk of nothing else?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  bbl-1 @6    2 months ago

I really do want to see him in a courtroom, implode, and then removed from the courtroom in handcuffs. Now that would be humiliating

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  bbl-1 @6    2 months ago
who didn't really win in 2016 and got away with it

OMG election denier?

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bbl-1 @6    2 months ago
Fitting end to an imposter who didn't really win in 2016 and got away with it.

Isn't one of the "indictments" that come out of Fulton County for just what you just said?  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.4.1  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.4    2 months ago

Hypocrites!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @6.4.1    2 months ago

Don't call them that.  You know it makes them cry.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.5  cjcold  replied to  bbl-1 @6    2 months ago

Hillary did win the popular vote.

Time for the electoral college to go away.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.5.1  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @6.5    2 months ago
Hillary did win the popular vote.

That and a few dollars will buy a gallon of gas.

Maybe she should have been campaigning to win the election instead of the popular votes, which mean little.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.5.2  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @6.5    2 months ago

time for the popular vote win to be worth 200 electoral votes, since the electoral vote was invented to give slave owner states an end run around the popular vote winning the elections.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.5.3  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @6.5.2    2 months ago
time for the popular vote win to be worth 200 electoral votes.

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.5.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  cjcold @6.5    2 months ago
Hillary did win the popular vote.

And you still haven't bought her a tiara?  The popular vote is just that -  popularity.  Your high schools Homecoming Queen won the Popular Vote.  It's a feel good vote and has no meaning for the Presidential elections process.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.5.5  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @6.5.2    2 months ago
since the electoral vote was invented to give slave owner states an end run around the popular vote winning the elections

Man, you Democrats damn sure loved that end around though, didn't ya?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.5.6  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.5.4    2 months ago
And you still haven't bought her a tiara?

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devangelical
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6.5.7  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @6.5.5    2 months ago

still confused about when the end zones changed in the revisionist history books?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.5.8  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.5.4    2 months ago

You know all it is is that they are still all butt-hurt that Hillary didn't get her turn.

So since she lost, Democrats want to change the rules.

And to think, Dems were the ones bitching about 'traditions' being lost.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.5.9  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @6.5.7    2 months ago
still confused about when the end zones changed in the revisionist history books?

Not at all, Democrats in the South were regularly elected well into the 1990's.  And the Democratic Party loved that they were Democrats, and apparently racists were acceptable because they were Democrats.

Let me know if you need to know anything else.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.5.10  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @6.5.7    2 months ago

Can you name one--even ONE--Republican President that got elected because of electoral votes before the electoral votes were assigned by total number of reps?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
6.5.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @6.5.8    2 months ago
You know all it is is that they are still all butt-hurt that Hillary didn't get her turn.

And that's what spawned all the hissy fits and fictitious "investigations" that continue today.

And to think, Dems were the ones bitching about 'traditions' being lost.

Just another gleaming example of their hypocrisy that the Bidenista's go right along with.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.5.12  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @6.5.2    2 months ago

Way past time for one person one vote.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
6.5.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cjcold @6.5.12    2 months ago

Nope just like 2016. The coasts would have given us Hillary while the rest of the country suffered. And we already have one person one vote. Just has to go through the rest of the system.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.5.14  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @6.5.2    2 months ago

If you really want to understand the original thinking behind the Electoral college read:

Federalist Number 39  

Federalist Number 68 https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.asp 

Federalist Number 10

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
7  Drinker of the Wry    2 months ago
since the electoral vote was invented to give slave owner states an end run around the popular vote winning the elections.

Where was slavery illegal when the electoral college was "invented"?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
7.1  bbl-1  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7    2 months ago

Nowhere.  Except in certain states it was not practiced.

 
 

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