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Impeachment hearing live updates: Republicans target Joe, Hunter Biden

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  199 comments

By:   USA TODAY

Impeachment hearing live updates: Republicans target Joe, Hunter Biden
Republicans are holding the first impeachment inquiry hearing into President Joe Biden, accusing him of benefitting from overseas business dealings.

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WASHINGTON−House Republicans are holding their first impeachment inquiry hearing on Thursday, fueled by allegations President Joe Biden has financially benefited from his family's foreign business dealings.

GOP lawmakers have long targeted Hunter Biden's work overseas. But while investigators have produced evidence revealing the president's son and his associates made millions from the affairs, they have yet to produce concrete evidence that shows the president personally benefited from those dealings.

Republican lawmakers have called three witnesses for the Wednesday hearing, including a forensic accountant, and former assistant attorney general and a legal scholar. They have also vowed to subpoena Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's brother, James Biden's, bank records as early as this week.

Follow along with live updates from USA TODAY reporters in Washington here.

Top Democrat knocks impeachment push: 'No smoking gun, no gun, no smoke'


Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, delivered Democrats' opening rebuttal against House Republicans' accusations, pointing out the infighting that has embroiled House Republicans as they work to avert a shutdown.

"These are Republicans talking about Republicans. This isn't partisan warfare," Raskin said, flanked by staffers holding up signs reading out criticisms moderate GOP lawmakers have levied at their hard-right colleagues. He also displayed a clock counting down until the impending government shutdown while he spoke.

Raskin, echoing other Democratic sentiments, took aim at the lack of evidence directly tying the president to his son's business dealings.

"Back in the reality-based world, the majority sits completely empty-handed with no evidence of any presidential wrongdoing, no smoking gun, no gun, no smoke," Raskin added. "They got nothing on Joe Biden."

- Ken Tran

White House calls out impeachment inquiry as government shutdown looms


As House Republicans pursue their first impeachment inquiry hearing into Biden amid a looming government shutdown on Sunday, the White House issued a warning about the state of the country.

"There are 61 hours and 55 minutes until the government shuts down because of extreme House Republicans' chaos and inability to govern," the statement said.

"The consequences for the American people will be very damaging, from lost jobs, to troops working without pay, to jeopardizing important efforts to fight fentanyl, deliver disaster relief, provide food assistance, and more. Nothing can distract from that," it added.

- Sudiksha Kochi

Impeachment inquiry hearing kicks off


Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., chair of the House Oversight Committee, kicked off House Republicans' first impeachment inquiry hearing into President Joe Biden. The leader accused Biden of being involved in his son's foreign affairs and selling the "Biden brand" for millions of dollars.

"What were the Biden's selling to make all this money?" Comer said. "Joe Biden himself."

- Ken Tran

Which legislative body has the power of impeachment?


How can a president be removed from office? First, the whole House of Representatives, not just one committee, has to approve articles of impeachment, or charges, against the president.

Next, the Senate would hold an impeachment trial. If the upper chamber finds the president guilty, they would be removed from office and can be barred from holding elected office again.

Three American presidents have been impeached in the House, but no leaders have been found guilty in the Senate.

How do you watch the first impeachment inquiry hearing?


As the House Oversight Committee holds the first hearing into President Joe Biden on Thursday, you can stream the proceedings here.

- Marina Pitofsky

Has Joe Biden already been impeached?


No, the inquiry launched by House Republicans is an investigation into the president over allegations that he benefitted from his family's foreign business dealings. It doesn't mean he has been formally charged, or that he'll be removed from office.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., has called the formal impeachment inquiry a "logical next step" for House Republicans, even though Republicans were already looking into the president and his family's finances.

After Republicans wrap up their investigation, which could take anywhere from a few months to over a year, the House Judiciary Committee would have the option to draft formal articles of impeachment against the president. Those articles are the vehicle for an impeachment trial, which would be how lawmakers could potentially remove Biden from office.

- Savannah Kuchar and Marina Pitofsky

Which presidents have been impeached?


Three presidents have been impeached by the House of Representatives: Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.

Johnson was impeached in 1868 after he fired Secretary of War Edwin Stanton, an ally of the so-called "radical Republicans" in Congress who opposed Johnson's Reconstruction policies. Clinton was impeached in 1998 for perjury before a federal grand jury and obstructing justice, revolving around evidence that Clinton had an affair with Monica Lewinsky, a White House intern at the time, and tried to cover it up.

Trump was impeached twice. In 2019, he was impeached after he allegedly withheld funds to Ukraine in an attempt to pressure Ukrainian officials to investigate Biden, his political rival. Trump was impeached again in 2021 for his alleged incitement of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol insurrection.

−Sudiksha Kochi

House GOP investigators say an inquiry is 'just that, an inquiry'


Democrats in Congress and the White House have assailed House Republicans for elevating their ongoing investigations to the level of an impeachment inquiry, arguing GOP lawmakers lack the evidence to begin an inquiry.

Republican lawmakers involved in the process say otherwise, claiming the inquiry will give investigators stronger authority to uncover evidence that President Joe Biden was involved in his son Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings.

In a memo to lawmakers in the committees handling the impeachment inquiry, Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., chair of the Oversight committee, along with Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio., chair of the Judiciary Committee and Rep. Jason Smith, R-Mo., chair of the Ways and Means Committee, explained to members the inquiry "is just that, an inquiry."

"This impeachment inquiry will enable the committees to gather information necessary to assess whether President Biden has engaged in impeachable conduct," the memo reads. "The decision to begin this inquiry does not mean that the committees have reached a conclusion on this question.

−Ken Tran

Who are the witnesses in the impeachment inquiry hearing?


The hearing is not expected to present new evidence, but it will offer up House Republicans' arguments for why they are proceeding with an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden and provide an overview of what GOP investigators have uncovered thus far.

House Republicans plan to have three witnesses testify to explain the basis of the inquiry and what lawmakers have found regarding the foreign business dealings of Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son:

  • Bruce Dubinsky, a forensic accountant
  • Eileen O'Connor, former assistant attorney general for the Justice Department's tax division
  • Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law professor at George Washington University

House Democrats have tapped Michael Gerhardt, a law professor at the University of North Carolina, to testify against the inquiry and argue House Republicans have yet to offer up substantial evidence to open an impeachment inquiry.

−Ken Tran


Marina PitofskyKen TranSavannah KucharSudiksha KochiCandy WoodallUSA TODAY


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

You can see it now live. 

Witnesses are being introduced.

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Comer is expected to show two dozen pieces of evidence at this first hearing.




It is 10:40 AM EST and we only have 11 members logged in.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year
It is 10:40 AM EST and we only have 11 members logged in.

Maybe they are avoiding this. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    last year

That's not it John.  

You are not a part of it, so it may be best that I keep it to myself.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    last year

Being on NTers and watching this hearing at the same time are not mutually inclusive actions.  

Automatically thinking they are, is just obtuse.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    last year

Are people shunning you Vic?  That would not be nice. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.3    last year

That's still not it.

They will return in a few minutes.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.4    last year

I guess I'll have to ask someone that knows more than you do. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    last year

He just arrived, but he doesn't know either.

The key person is missing.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.6    last year

Your mysterious elusiveness is boring. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.7    last year

I don't blame you. I don't like mysteries either.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    last year

Chairman Jim Jordan's opening statement:
 


"This is a tale as old as time. Politician takes action that makes money for his family, and then he tries to conceal it. Never forget four fundamental facts.

Hunter Biden gets put on the board of Burisma and gets paid a lot of money. Hunter Biden's not qualified.

Fact number two: to sit on the board, not my words, he said he got on the board because of the brand because of the name.

Fact number three: the executives at Burisma ask Hunter Biden to help them with the pressure they are under from the prosecutor in Ukraine.

Fact number four: Joe Biden goes to Ukraine on December 9, 2015, and gave this speech attacking the prosecutor that started the process of getting that guy fired.

Those facts are consistent with what the confidential human source told the FBI, and the FBI recorded in the 1023 form, the same form that the Justice Department didn't want to let this Committee see. And all those facts all of that was further confirmed yesterday with the information that the Ways and Means Committee released from the whistleblowers Shapley and Ziegler... Joe Biden fired the first prosecutor, and the second prosecutor came in and dropped the charges. That's exactly what they wanted to be done. And the final step is the Biden Justice Department tries to sweep it all under the rug. They slow-walk the investigation. They let the statute of limitations lapse for the most important years, 2014 and 2015, the Burisma years when all that income is coming in. They try to put together this sweetheart deal and get it past the judge. And we learned yesterday they weren't allowed to ask about political figure one. Political figure one is the big guy, Joe Biden. And they would have gotten away with it all except for two brave whistleblowers who sat in those seats two months ago and told their story and a judge in Delaware who said we're not going to let this happen. That's why we're here today. That's why this inquiry is so important."

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year

This is the real witch hunt, right here.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    last year

nowhere

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.2    last year

no evidence = nowhere

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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Former Assistant AG Eileen O’Connor: "The Hunter Biden investigation must not be viewed in isolation, but rather as part of a broad landscape of corruption."

It is on C-Span 3

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year
Former Assistant AG Eileen O’Connor: "The Hunter Biden investigation must not be viewed in isolation, but rather as part of a broad landscape of corruption."

They're trying to impeach Hunter Biden???

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1    last year

Why do you try to be so deliberately obtuse...   of course the investigation into Hunter should be looked at ALSO as to potential corruption and influence pedaling.  To not do so would be a dereliction of duties.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.1    last year
of course the investigation into Hunter should be looked at ALSO as to potential corruption and influence pedaling.  To not do so would be a dereliction of duties.

You feel that a private citizen's alleged crimes should be looked into by a House Committee with no law enforcement capabilities?  Not only that, but a private citizen that has already been investigated (still on-going) by the Justice Department?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.4  Snuffy  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.3    last year

When it pertains to the President of the United States and possible criminal activity by said President, then absolutely I do.  The House Committee would not be looking at potential crimes by Hunter but if Hunter used his father in any fashion AND if said father used the position of his office to facilitate Hunter's business.

By your statement there should be no looking into or questioning Ivanka for the patents issued by China during the Trump presidency or for the Saudi money invested with Jared.

Don't let partisan glasses blind you to reality.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.4    last year
When it pertains to the President of the United States and possible criminal activity by said President, then absolutely I do.

Too bad there is absolutely no evidence to show it pertains to POTUS.

By your statement there should be no looking into or questioning Ivanka for the patents issued by China during the Trump presidency or for the Saudi money invested with Jared.

1 HUGE difference to your comparison.  Both Jared and Ivanka were appointed members of Trump's administration, and so not private citizens. 

Or did you forget that little fact???

Don't let partisan glasses blind you to reality.

They don't, but they are blinding the MAGA members of the House committee.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.6  Snuffy  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.5    last year
When it pertains to the President of the United States and possible criminal activity by said President, then absolutely I do.
Too bad there is absolutely no evidence to show it pertains to POTUS.

That's what the inquiry is for, to insure there are not direct ties between POTUS and Hunter.  So far the DOJ and the White House have not been forthcoming with requested documents and the inquiry gives more teeth to the House in their subpoena powers.  I'm willing to wait until the end to make judgement but I do want to see a full investigation just like I wanted to see a full investigation into the Russian collusion issue with Trump (that failed to prove the connection).

By your statement there should be no looking into or questioning Ivanka for the patents issued by China during the Trump presidency or for the Saudi money invested with Jared.

1 HUGE difference to your comparison.  Both Jared and Ivanka were appointed members of Trump's administration, and so not private citizens. 

Or did you forget that little fact???

Don't be condescending.  Didn't forget any piece of it but it's a fair example.  There is evidence that Hunter flew on Air Force 2 several times with his dad and banking records to show money flowing to Hunter and others shortly after such visits. I don't know very many "private citizens" who would get to fly on Air Force 2 to "visit" and "sight-see" in foreign countries.  

Don't let partisan glasses blind you to reality.
They don't, but they are blinding the MAGA members of the House committee.

I have my doubts as your replies are so partisan. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.6    last year
That's what the inquiry is for, to insure there are not direct ties between POTUS and Hunter.

Here's a tie for you,,,,,father and son.

But thank you for confirming the inquiry is a witch hun t trying to find a reason, instead of having a reason to call for the inquiry.  Talk about putting the cart before the horse.

Didn't forget any piece of it but it's a fair example.

No it is not.  You are comparing a private citizen to 2 appointed political government employees.  Comparing apples to haystacks.

I have my doubts as your replies are so partisan

In what way?  Give specific examples.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.8  Snuffy  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.7    last year

You are just like a broken fucking record.  There's a lot of evidence released that ties the Biden family to money coming in from overseas including China.  There are emails from Hunter talking about selling the family brand.  What does the Biden family have to offer in exchange for the money they have received?  That's a valid question that needs to be answered. I'm willing to wait for the investigation to be completed, but I believe that it should be completed.

There is smoke but you refuse to acknowledge any potential of fire.  If you refuse to see how your reply's in this matter are partisan, then there's nothing that can be said that will change your mind.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.4    last year

Don't let your partisan lasses blind you to reality.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.3    last year

Always the defense of the indefensible here.  A bunch of one trick ponies.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.5    last year

That's the thing Ozz, they got no evidence, they got no proof, they got nothing, never have and never will.  There is nothing tying President Biden to it, absolutely nothing.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.7    last year

Unlike the former 'president' claiming all these criminal indictments for crimes that he obviously committed are witch hunts - this 'inquiry' is indeed the witch hunt, the real witch hunt.

Poor things.  So desperate.   Hillary and President Obama were right - some folks cling to their ignorance and deplorability,

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.7    last year
But thank you for confirming the inquiry is a witch hun t trying to find a reason, instead of having a reason to call for the inquiry.

Welcome to 2016.....................

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.8    last year

There's no smoke - so no fire, you all have nothing but defending the indefensible.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.17  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.16    last year

I was trying to figure out how Scotland was relevant myself.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.18  Ozzwald  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.8    last year
There's a lot of evidence released that ties the Biden family to money coming in from overseas including China.

Talk about partisan!  This isn't about the "Biden family" it is about POTUS and there is no evidence linking Joe Biden to this.

There is smoke but you refuse to acknowledge any potential of fire.

There may be smoke, but the fact that there is no evidence of fire is why the impeachment inquiry is putting the cart before the horse.  They have no evidence to investigate so they are witch hunting hoping to find evidence.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.18    last year

Yup, the real witch hunt.  Exactamundo!

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.20  Snuffy  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.18    last year

yeah, yeah...  ignore all the evidence that has been released including the email stating '10 percent for the big guy'.  Keep your head buried.  

As we saw in the first Trump impeachment, the House needs the extra muscle of an impeachment inquiry as this time the White House and the DOJ are refusing and/or slow walking the release of requested documents.  That same problem impacted the House during the first Trump impeachment inquiry.  The House at that time had as much evidence as the House has this time around, but still had to start an impeachment inquiry due to obstruction from the Trump White House as well as House Republicans (kind of like the House Democrats are doing now).

And it seems you also ignore the difference between an impeachment inquiry and an impeachment vote.  The House needs to hold the inquiry before the vote, once the vote is taken then either Biden is impeached or not.  

But you know, for all your whining about no smoke, you sure do sound like a Trumpster from his first impeachment also.   Didn't know you were MAGA...  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.22  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.21    last year

They didn't.  The Bidens have integrity and morals and decency unlike the former 'president' and his enablers/supporters/defendersoftheindefensible

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.23  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.9    last year

clear as mud

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.24  Snuffy  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.22    last year

My god, you sound like a MAGA hatted Trumpster defending your guy....   

Instead of your usual snark and/or deflections why don't you actually join the conversation.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.20    last year

the former 'president' and his criminal enterprise of an administration -  and the 4 criminal indictments the turd is facing and his lifelong grifting, thieving, and thugging -  I'm not sure what the first impeachment was about - was it when the former 'president' held Ukraine hostage?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.27  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.20    last year

JFC, speaking of whining, that seems to be all magat's have, endless whining and bitching and pissing and moaning

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.28  Snuffy  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.26    last year

Those that refuse to remember and learn from history are doomed to repeat it.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.31  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.30    last year

when i think of morals, I think of a drug addict, who while sleeping with his dead brother's wife, illegally buys a gun, throws it away and tries to blame "illegal mexicans" for it's disappearance. And fights with his dead brother's wife/girlfriend  over keeping a stripper he impregnated on the company payroll.  And let's not even touch the truly disturbing behavior.....

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.32  Ozzwald  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.20    last year
yeah, yeah...  ignore all the evidence that has been released

There has been on evidence regarding POTUS released.

10 percent for the big guy

Joe Biden looks pretty slim to be considered a "big guy".  To bad you only have conjecture on who that is.  Again, no evidence.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.35  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.34    last year

from the fbi summary of his interview:


BOBULINSKI also met JAMES BIDEN in a face-to-face meeting at the Peninsula Hotel
in Beverly Hills. During this meeting, BOBULINSKI asked JAMES BIDEN "how are you guys
doing this?" and "aren't you afraid for Joe's political campaign?" BOBULINSKI was
specifically inquiring as to how JOSEPH BIDEN was able to be involved in financial
transactions with companies owned or affiliated with foreign governments, such as China and
Russia, without being accused of impropriety.

JAMES BIDEN's answer to these questions was
"plausible deniability." BOBULINSKI understood this to mean that financial transactions that
ultimately benefitted JOSEPH BIDEN and his family were brokered through and managed by
JOSEPH BIDEN's family members - such as HUNTER BIDEN and JAMES BIDEN - to
prevent JOSEPH BIDEN's direct involvement.

The structure gave JOSEPH BIDEN the ability
to plausibly deny his involvement and knowledge of the transactions, while still benefiting indirectly.

I guess joe Biden was correct about that.  Democrats can’t wrap their head around something that complicated. They think corruption only occurs when guys In masks are caught on camera giving bags of cash with dollar signs on the bags to politicians in hotel rooms. They still think in terms of silent movies from the 1920s.   

this is much too complicated for them.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.37  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.28    last year

How original and profound. . . jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.38  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.30    last year

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Tessylo
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2.1.39  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.30    last year

enablers/supporters/defenders of the indefensible/magats = white trash racist scum

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.40  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.39    last year

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Tessylo
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2.1.42  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1    last year

We didn't vote for Hunter.  We voted for Joe.  This is the true witch hunt deflecting from the seemingly endless list of crimes by the former 'president' and more likely coming, indictments that is, LOL!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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Prof Turley, great opening statement

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @3    last year

He basically said that the House should not impeach Joe.

They still need this inquiry to get information.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    last year
They still need this inquiry to get information.

That’s what he said.    That is, this inquiring is needed before a decision should be made on impeachment or not.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.1    last year

He said the same of the Trump impeachments.  

This is the main tool the House has for getting more information.

Turley: "while I believe that an impeachment inquiry is warranted, I do not believe that the evidence currently meets the standard of a high crime and misdemeanor needed for an article of impeachment."

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    last year

Exactly.    Not a comment a partisan hack would make.    

Guess some of our esteemed members here were wrong about him.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    last year

Turley, like the rest of MAGA on this committee, just wants to stretch this nonsense out for the length of the 2024 election campaign. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    last year

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Vic Eldred
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3.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.3    last year

None of those distinguished witnesses are advocating impeachment at this time.

Of course, if they don't click their heels and go along with the left they are "partisan hacks."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    last year

He's non-partisan John. He is only interested in the law. Remember the law?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.7    last year

have you ever seen turley's website? calling that non partisan is ludicrous. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    last year

Third story down on that site has Turley criticizing Trump.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.10  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    last year

Haven’t seen his website because I’m not obsessed over this.    I did however watch his opening statement and calling that statement partisan is completely asinine.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.10    last year

I didnt see his opening statement.

Why would looking at his website be "obsession"? It takes less than a minute to look through the topics he addresses on his website. Almost all of it aligns with the MAGA worldview. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.11    last year
Why would looking at his website be "obsession"?

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JohnRussell
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3.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.9    last year

I can copy headlines of stories from his site if you like. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.14  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.13    last year

John, I am a follower of that site.

I think you meant that for Sparty

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.15  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.13    last year

I could flag your posts as taunts like you do as well but I don’t.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

The dems are wasting everyone's time talking about Trump. Always talking to the trash that elected them.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year

TDS in play ….

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    last year
The dems are wasting everyone's time talking about Trump.

Just like the Bidenites here on NT.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

Concerned citizens have arrived

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Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @5    last year

Who dat?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @5.1    last year

The gentleman on the right is the man who uses FOIA to get to the truth. The one on the left is demanding an end to the deep state.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
5.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    last year

The one on the left is demanding an end to the deep state.

Hilarious.  First he might want to look for the beginning of it.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
5.1.3  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    last year

“…demanding an end to the deep state…”

A definition would be helpful here.

Otherwise citing something so nebulous only diminishes the veracity of anything that follows. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @5.1.3    last year

I doubt I could make you see what you don't want to see.

Besides the deep state has benefited democrats way too much.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
5.1.5  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    last year

Can’t see it because it is invisible, amorphous, and fictional.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5.1.5    last year

You don't want to see it. It is protecting Joe Biden.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
5.1.7  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    last year

“I doubt I could make you see what you don't want to see.”

And I doubt you could ever offer proof to  defend your purely polemic positions. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
5.1.8  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.6    last year

You don't want to see it.

That is so untrue.  I desperately want to see it.  Please show it to me.  As certain as you are of its existence you should be able to follow through on that.  Or is it like religion, and requires nothing more than faith?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @5.1    last year

That is the far right conspiracist nutjob Tom Fitton. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5.1.5    last year

Exactly, it does not exist, no such thing.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.11  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    last year
Besides the deep state has benefited democrats way too much.

Bob Menendez would like a word . . . 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.12  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.11    last year

The deep state does not want Menendez running for another term next year against a Republican with all that baggage.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.1.13  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    last year

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.14  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @5.1.13    last year

It's hard to tell with people who are always angry.

I suppose the university made them that way. All that talk about slavery and "climate."

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.1.15  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    last year

It appears you triggered some of our friends on the left.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.16  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.12    last year
with all that baggage.

You mean the baggage the deep state would have dug up on him? If they truly serve Democrats, shouldn’t they have refused to investigate him in the first place?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.17  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.16    last year
You mean the baggage the deep state would have dug up on him?

If you look at charges and supposedly what they claim to have as evidence, it would be a slam dunk case. Menendez is determined to go to trial and run again. That will be yet another problem for the DNC's Senate race next year. That race isdifficult because of how many seats democrats have to defend which already favors Republicans.


If they truly serve Democrats, shouldn’t they have refused to investigate him in the first place?

It isn't that simple. Look back at the last time Menendez went through this. Menendez, even back then, was at odds with the controlling wing of the democrat party. He opposed Obama's Iran Deal and he opposed Obama's gesture to normalize relations with Cuba. Do you recall how he was charged back then?  Eric Holder let it be known that an indictment was forthcoming without ever stating the reasons.

Menendez got off on a technicality, but this time the corruption is hard to ignore. They want him out before the next election.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    last year

That must be where the elusive Bigfoot and Loch Ness Monster reside

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.19  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.17    last year
Menendez, even back then, was at odds with the controlling wing of the democrat party.

Really? Based on what metric?

He’s dead in the middle of the party ideologically. He’s the Chair of the Foreign Relations Committee, and sits on two more committees.

Legislatively, he’s the #1 leader in the party . In the last Congress, he was the primary sponsor on more enacted bills than any member of the Senate. He also gets more influential cosponsors than any member. How could he possibly be at odds with the controlling wing of the Democratic Party? He is the controlling wing of the Democratic Party.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.20  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.19    last year
He is the controlling wing of the Democratic Party.

A moderate is the controlling wing of the democratic party?

Think about the insane policies plaguing the country.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6  JohnRussell    last year

I have to admit there is some entertainment value to this hearing. 

One of the Democrats just exposed one of the expert Republican witnesses as a crackpot "stop the stealer".  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6    last year

You mean he tried to slander two witnesses.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
6.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @6    last year

I have to admit there is some entertainment value to this hearing. 

Oh, that’s right.  You did mention that you were a fan of the Three Stooges.  There’s an uncanny resemblance.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.2    last year

Are you still watching the three stooges?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    last year

Don't have to!  When we've got 'hearings' like this going on - the true witch hunt.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.2    last year
When we've got 'hearings' like this going on

What station are you using to watch the hearings?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.3    last year

Why the fuck would I be watching the true witch hunt?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.4    last year

Except maybe for the comedic value?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.4    last year

I thought you said you gave up the Three Stooges to watch it?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.6    last year

You obviously don't get sarcasm or are pretending not to understand

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.7    last year

How's this for sarcasm:

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.9    last year

better informed about what?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.11    last year

It's not possible to become better informed on some poster's 'articles', no way whatsoever.  Those 'articles' do not inform, they peddle disinformation and whackjob conspiracy theories and are best ignored.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
6.2.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.12    last year
It's not possible to become better informed on some poster's 'articles'

Especially if you won't read them and therefore not be able to comprehend what is written.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.2.13    last year

What's not to comprehend here?  This is the real witch hunt.  Ya got nothin' on Joe, nada, zip, zilch, diddly squat, not a damn thing.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7  JohnRussell    last year

Why are the Republicans afraid to have Rudy Giuliani testify before this impeachment committee ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7    last year

I don't think it's fear, John. It would be like having Barack Obama testify at the Simpson trial.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    last year

I think you need to read more. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
7.1.2  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    last year

“…like having Barack Obama testify at the Simpson trial.” 

Meaning just what?

An unbelievable correlation, even for you. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
7.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    last year
It would be like having Barack Obama testify at the Simpson trial.

Pleeeeease explain that.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @7.1.3    last year

One has no connection to the other.

Get it?

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
7.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.4    last year

Ah, thank you.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    last year

read period

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
7.1.7  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.4    last year
One has no connection to the other.Get it?

I was wondering when the invisible dots were coming out to play.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

I thought Rep Nancy Mace was great!

Mace: " This is Bullshit! Democrats, please, spare me your hypocrisy, Joe Biden is corrupt, and here is the evidence ...



 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    last year

Nancy Mace said something to the effect of "we all know Joe Biden took bribes from Burisma". 

She is lying, we don't "all know" any such thing. The alleged witness to that effect is an international criminal on the run from US law enforcement and the allegation has been specifically debunked by the person who supposedly bribed Biden.  

Mace comment was shameful. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    last year

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

Turley finally got to respond to the ridiculous attack

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    last year

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

The shitheads are talking about Trump again.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
10.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @10    last year

I had to turn it off and went outside to cut the grass.

A much more productive use of my time.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
11  JohnRussell    last year
National security expert Marcy Wheeler cracked up on the social media site previously known as Twitter.

"Holy fu--ing s--t. Not ONLY is @jamescomer planning an impeachment hearing while Republicans are struggling to keep the govt open, but he invited JONNY TURLEY because he couldn't find a real expert. Pathetic. He couldn't find an expert!!!!!!" she tweeted.

Rep. Don Beyer's deputy chief of staff, Aaron Fritschner pointed out that in 1998, Turley was all for impeachment. In 2019, he argued against it. Now that he's back in 2023, he's likely to say it's good again.

"Have to hand it to @JonathanTurley for being the most shameless and cynical person in this town, it’s a remarkable achievement,"  he posted .

"Let's be clear: Jonathan Turley is a MAGA hypocrite. He is a Trump loyalist who defended Trump during his first and second impeachment trials, demonstrating blatant hypocrisy time and time again,"  said the Congressional Integrity Project .

Historian Kevin Kruse knocked Turley saying , "Jonathan Turley is 'nationally recognized' in the sense that Carrot Top is 'nationally recognized'."

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
12  Tacos!    last year

I have decided that I am fine with all of this. Oh yes, I could continue to protest that impeachment was never intended to be such a purely partisan political tool, but at this point, that is tilting at windmills. No one cares anymore about what should be a serious, solemn, and rare procedure, and I am not going to convince anyone otherwise.

The reason I’m good with it is that once again, next year, we will be faced with the weakest of choices for president. So, if we can get Trump behind bars and Biden sent off to Shady Acres Retirement Home, we might actually get some fresh blood in the White House. America wins.

After Republicans wrap up their investigation, which could take anywhere from a few months to over a year

It will only take that long if Republicans either think they could lose the House or might gain in the Senate after the next election. If the former happens, and Democrats control the House, that would end the impeachment push. But if Democrats continue to control the Senate, there will never be a trial. Everything will turn on strategic timing.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @12    last year

The chances of neither Trump or Biden running in 2024 is very slim.

The country cannot risk another Trump term, for any reason. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
12.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1    last year
The country cannot risk another Trump term, for any reason. 

Delete Trump, insert Biden …..

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
13  JohnRussell    last year

The dolt chairman of this committee, James Comer, has started interrupting Democrats during their time. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

I hope everyone has had a good look at the democrats today.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
14.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @14    last year

Why?  They're not partaking in this start of the revenge and retribution 'campaign' of the former 'president' or wasting our tax payer dollars on this, the real witch hunt.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @14.1    last year

Don't you think the AG should be held accountable?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
14.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1.1    last year

For what?

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
14.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Tessylo @14.1.2    last year
For what?

For not playing Connect the Q-Dots.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
14.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @14.1.4    last year

there's that projection

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

BREAKING : CNN, MSNBC and the Big 3 TV networks have all blacked out coverage of today's Biden impeachment inquiry , only the fourth presidential impeachment inquiry in U.S. history -- in stark contrast to their wall-to-wall coverage of the 2019 Trump impeachment inquiry.


Paul Sperry on X: "BREAKING: CNN, MSNBC and the Big 3 TV networks have all blacked out coverage of today's Biden impeachment inquiry, only the fourth presidential impeachment inquiry in U.S. history -- in stark contrast to their wall-to-wall coverage of the 2019 Trump impeachment inquiry #MediaBias" / X (twitter.com)

They are nothing but propaganda mills.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
15.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @15    last year

If you are having trouble accessing the hearing here's a link for you

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @15.1    last year

I have it uninterrupted on C-Span 3. The point isn't finding it.

The point is we have a bunch of authoritarian radicals running the so-called news for the 3 main TV networks and the two far left cable news stations.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
15.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @15.1.1    last year

Your definition of "radical" has little correspondence to reality. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
15.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @15.1.2    last year

Censoring news stories by a free press is beyond radical


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Sparty On
Professor Principal
15.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @15.1.2    last year

Your understanding of reality appears to be closer to fantasy.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
15.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @15.1.2    last year

Why would networks waste time on this garbage (the true witch hunt)?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
15.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @15.1.3    last year

That's true.  There isn't.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
15.2  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @15    last year

Sad state of affairs to be sure.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
16  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

We are seeing firsthand what the democratic party has become.

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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
16.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @16    last year

Spit it out Vic, or stop doing whatever it is you are doing. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
16.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @16.1    last year

That is not necessary.

Mission accomplished!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

Right now the degenerate democrats are demonizing the witnesses.

That is part of the reason the left is censoring this hearing.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
17.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @17    last year

The Republican side of the hearing room dais is almost empty. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
17.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @17.1    last year

Wow, I needed a good laugh today.  Work was really stressful.

This is hilarious!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @17.1    last year

They also have to vote on bills, you must know.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
17.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @17.1.1    last year
This is hilarious!

How so?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
18  JohnRussell    last year

Moskowitz is incredibly good. 

That will go viral for sure. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
18.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @18    last year

He is a degenerate.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
18.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @18.1    last year

The racist, white nationalist , Q Anon goofball Paul Gosar is up. 

What an embarrassment to this country. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
18.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @18.1.1    last year

Oh, I see, this is like HD.  We just call them names.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
18.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @18.1.2    last year
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    ...

    Rep. Paul Gosar's lengthy ties to White nationalists, pro-Nazi

    Web On social media,   Gosar   regularly engages with   far-right   personalities and memes.   Gosar   has repeatedly promoted the work of and tagged Vincent James Foxx, who was recently …

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
18.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @18.1.3    last year
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    ...

    Rep. Paul Gosar courts QAnon. What a total and complete shock …

    Web Mar 18, 2021  · Rep.   Paul Gosar   courts QAnon. What a total and complete shock (not) Rep.   Paul Gosar   will speak to QAnon - and that's not even the shocking part Opinion: The …

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
18.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @18.1.4    last year

This is too easy. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
18.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @18.1.4    last year

Someday you must tell us what QAnon is.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
18.1.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @18.1.3    last year

What is a "White Nationalist?"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
19  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

There is Rep Tlaib. She is worried about a shut down. Don't investigate Joe Biden. We have no time for this.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
19.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @19    last year

Talib …. A regulation POS and a disgrace to the state of Michigan

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
19.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @19.1    last year

Along with the governor.

If they can convince Joe to not run, Whitmer might be the replacement.

Here is citizen Talib in her youth:

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Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
19.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Vic Eldred @19    last year

And they did - twice, for legitimate reasons … unlike this ridiculous clown show.  This has been one long cringeworthy exhibit of how to lose support from the electorate.  The faux outrage over everything that’s ok for the Trump crime family to do in plain sight but treasonous for the Biden family to allegedly do without evidence (according to whistleblowers in hiding) is embarrassing as hell.  The world is laughing at you Republicans.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
19.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @19.2    last year

They are not legitimate without the Senate voting to convict.

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
19.2.2  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @19.2.1    last year

Which is also why I desire that the House do a good job with the inquiry and put all the facts before the voting public, but I don't have any real desire for an impeachment vote unless the Republicans can hold the House and get 2/3 of the Senate as any number less would not guarantee a conviction.  Too many Democrats would blindly support their party and vote to not convict, while vocally holding forth that their vote was "payback" for the non-conviction votes in the Senate for Trump.

But if sufficient hard evidence can be put forth, it may persuade Biden to drop out of the race and then the Democrats could find someone better to put in.  

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
19.2.3  Snuffy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @19.2    last year
but treasonous for the Biden family to allegedly do without evidence

Bank statements, emails?  Does any of that ring a bell?  It should.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
19.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Snuffy @19.2.3    last year
nk statements, emails?  Does any of that ring a bell?  It should.  

The  deflections to your points are pretty obvious.  

the strawman about "treasonous" allegations (projecting their own hysteria) , blatantly dishonest claims about "no evidence" and the ever popular "but Trump"

Nort even an attempt to provide an innocuous explanation for the emails, whatsapp threats, IRS expert testimony,  offshore accounts etc...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
20  JohnRussell    last year

Its almost over. The last Democrat has spoken and now they are hearing from the couple remaining Republicans. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
20.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @20    last year

I'm sure you'll be glad when it's over.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
21  afrayedknot    last year

This entire show, and it is but a show, is an embarrassment…all while we are but daze away from another self imposed government shutdown. This generation of ‘leaders’ simply sucks… time to pass it on for it demonstrably cannot get any worse. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
21.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @21    last year

You sound like one of the democrat committee members.  

You must have watched.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
22  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
23  Just Jim NC TttH    last year

BREAKING: Diane Feinstein has died....................................

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
23.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @23    last year

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
23.2  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @23    last year

looks like that hag Foxx isn't far behind her - ugly hateful old bat!

 
 

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