The price of peace between Israelis and Palestinians
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Just getting to the end of the day and surviving the night must feel like a miracle in the Gaza Strip. Palestinians "plead for safety", wrote Philippe Lazzarini, head of UNRWA, the main UN relief agency in Gaza, in an "endless, deepening tragedy… hell on earth".
It must be just as hellish for the hostages taken by Hamas and for the families of their victims. War is a cruel furnace that puts humans through terrible agonies. But its heat can produce changes that seemed impossible.
It happened in Western Europe after World War Two. Old enemies who had killed each other for centuries chose peace. Will the war in Gaza shock Israelis and Palestinians into ending their century of conflict over the land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River?
The widow of Muhammad Abu Shaar
I've been watching a video of a woman wracked by grief, sitting next to the body of her husband, Muhammad Abu Shaar. As Israel and Egypt are not allowing journalists to enter Gaza, I have not met her. I haven't been able to find out her name, which was not posted alongside those of her dead husband and children.
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At some point, the current solution and the one used for the 100 years the combatants will realize it isn't working and never will. New leadership on all sides and a willingness to change and have a future for all generations is what is required.
Peace, cooperation and mutual prosperity is starting to look good...
Yes, it is but what is needed is new leadership all around that can buy into it.
Agreed! Since this latest tragedy my hope has been that new leadership would emerge on both sides. The powers that be have been lacking for everyone concerned. Nothing stirs up the war hornet's nest, or hope, than actual peacemakers talking peace.
The idea there could be a real peace is not inconceivable, or new!
I don't know, but venture that an unprovoked terrorist attack on civilians that included murder, rape, and kidnapping may get that hornet's nest buzzing pretty loudly.
What's your beef with Netanyahu? Is there any Israeli leader you would support?
IMO, Netanyahu is leading Israel into a situation that leads to nothing but more wars and his attempted policy towards the judicial in Israel is way out of bounds which most Israelis are against. I am far from the only person not in favor of Netanyahu, most Israelis are as well. Yes, there are Israelis that I would support for PM but that is up to the Israelis to choose.
Why are you supporting him, Greg?
I agree, he is like Hamas an PA leadership in not wanting a way forward.
know bibi, no peace. no bibi, know peace.
There will never be peace until Hamas is eradicated like the vermin they are.
Doesn't even matter what Israel does, Hamas is sworn to kill them.
Are you saying he's to blame for Hamas' terrorism?
That's a really dumb statement.
No, what he is saying is that as long as Netanyahu is the PM there will be no peace.
It is another way to blame Israel for being attacked by terrorists.
Surely you're not saying that Netanyahu is the reason there is no peace. It doesn't make any difference if Jesus himself reincarnated to be PM of Israel as long as Hamas is left to exist. Here is the proof:
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Got that? Hamas, since its inception in 1987, has called for armed resistance and the elimination of Israel.
As I've pointed out elsewhere, it's their religion, it's stated in the Koran. Kill the Jews.
Since the wars and terrorist attacks have been on going for 100 years with no result except more wars and no peace, trying something new would be a given.
I think kicking out any and all Palestinians/West Bankers not willing to live in peace with the Jews, who have reclaimed their ancestral homeland, would be a positive step for a long-lasting peace in that region.
Problem is, no other Arab state wants anything to do with them either. Getting rid of Netanyahu isn't going to solve anything
The West Bank was divided into three areas, Israeli administrated, PA administrated and a Joint administration. Since then and the 1967 war Israel has taken over the administration of all three and Jewish ''Settlers'' have been moving into the Palestinian area illegally according to the UN. Among the Palestinians in the WB are 40,000 Bedouins who have had a bond with the Jews since before the formation of Israel and there are around 200,000 Bedouins who live in Israel are citizens and fight in the IDF. IMO, you cannot kick these people off the land, There are also many Palestinians in Israel that are in the IDF and citizens of Israel.
If Israelis forcibly remove them they will create enemies that were once friends, Israelis don't need more enemies but more friends, especially ones that fight in the IDF.
Many other Arab states already have a large population of Palestinians. 50% of the population of Jordan is Palestinian. There is nowhere for these people to go.
There is a lot of space in Syria, Saudi and Iraq.
As is there in the US.
No, we are way too overcrowded and can't take care of our own citizens
Syria, Hezbollah would welcome them with open arms. Pretty sure the Syrian government doesn't want Israel involved in their civil war after a pissed off Hezbollah ripe with new recruits launches rocket attacks into Israel.
Iraq, already an unstable shithole with a very angry minority Sunni population- which most Palestinians are- that are not a part of the government (From one territory where they have no power to another. I am sure they will love that_. A mid sized Kurdish population that wouldn't welcome more Sunnis diluting their power; and encroaching on their territory. And the dominate Shai that control the government and are beholden to Iran- and the Iranian militia that keep them in power. What could go wrong?
Saudi Arabia- sure piss of the Saudis- I am sure they will be glad to lead the OPEC charge and put the US and world into a complete energy free fall.
No matter what people think not all Arabs are the same. Which is the reason they spend so much time fighting each other.
You forgot the main players in Syria, Russia and the US.
There is a lot of space in Syria, Saudi and Iraq.
As there is in Egypt (size comparison map, see below):