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Trump to Taylor Swift: Please don’t endorse someone else

  

Category:  News & Politics

By:  kavika  •  10 months ago  •  161 comments

Trump to Taylor Swift: Please don’t endorse someone else

Hours before the kickoff of Super Bowl LVIII, Donald Trump had a message for Taylor Swift: Don’t endorse Joe Biden.

In a post on social media Sunday, the former president made a backhanded plea to the pop star, who is expected to be featured prominently on TV during the game, which her boyfriend, Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce, is playing in.


Trump claimed credit for Swift’s financial success, calling a possible endorsement of Biden “disloyal to the man who made her so much money.”

“I signed and was responsible for the Music Modernization Act for Taylor Swift and all other Musical Artists. Joe Biden didn’t do anything for Taylor, and never will,” Trump   wrote on Truth Social , referencing legislation he signed in 2018 meant to modernize copyright laws.

“There’s no way she could endorse Crooked Joe Biden, the worst and most corrupt President in the History of our Country, and be disloyal to the man who made her so much money. Besides that, I like her boyfriend, Travis, even though he may be a Liberal, and probably can’t stand me!”

Late last month, a New York Times report that Biden’s campaign was looking to court Swift’s endorsement fueled a chain of conspiracies, including one that the NFL postseason was rigged to favor the Chiefs so Swift could deliver the endorsement in front of a massive TV audience at the game.

Swift endorsed Biden over Trump in 2020, but has not given any indication that she’ll weigh in.

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Kavika
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1  author  Kavika     10 months ago

Thunder Mouth has has another thing he can claim to be the best in, PUTZ

Trump is by far the biggest PUTZ 

Trump has taken title of he worlds biggest YUTZ

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1  CB  replied to  Kavika @1    10 months ago

"Thunder Mouth"  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @1    10 months ago

another completely idiotic move by trump. she's a lot smarter than he is and she can easily wreck him...

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.1  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.2    10 months ago

I'm not that familiar with pop music, but my daughter tells me bad boyfriend break up songs made her that money. you'd think that would be an adequate red flag for a misogynist. she didn't mention any names in her songs, but all the swifty's know who she's talking about. imagine going into the meaty part of the primaries with a hit song dogging your dumb ass...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.1    10 months ago

She is my new heroine.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.2.1    10 months ago

I know which one is about John Mayer - the others, no, lol, but I am a pop fan (I like most music except most country) and I actually do like a lot of her songs.

,

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.3    10 months ago

she started off country, but crossed over to making real money in pop...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.2    10 months ago

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JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    10 months ago
Trump claimed credit for Swift’s financial success, calling a possible endorsement of Biden “disloyal to the man who made her so much money.”

“I signed and was responsible for the Music Modernization Act for Taylor Swift and all other Musical Artists. Joe Biden didn’t do anything for Taylor, and never will,” Trump      wrote on Truth Social   , referencing legislation he signed in 2018 meant to modernize copyright laws.

“There’s no way she could endorse Crooked Joe Biden, the worst and most corrupt President in the History of our Country, and be disloyal to the man who made her so much money.

I wish I could believe the moron is joking. Unfortunately, he is the joke. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1  author  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @3    10 months ago

Putz and Yutz are the perfect description of him

 
 
 
JBB
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4  JBB    10 months ago

original

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5  sandy-2021492    10 months ago

Oh, thanks for this much-needed giggle.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.1  author  Kavika   replied to  sandy-2021492 @5    10 months ago

You're welcome, sandy. Trump can set new stupid records without trying.

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.1  CB  replied to  Kavika @5.1    10 months ago

In a great many ways Trump appears to me to be stumbling through the "china cabinet" of politics and the GOPers seem to be falling all over themselves getting out of his way!

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  Kavika @5.1    10 months ago

And I doubt he even knows how pathetic this looks.  He probably thinks he comes across as a tough negotiator, calling in favors.  It looks more like "Please, please don't say nice things about anybody but me!"

 
 
 
CB
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6  CB    10 months ago

As far as I can discern, Donald Trump  (who is know to Objectify women or think they need a father-figure in their lives) has only expressed shame once for saying or writing something: The on the bus with Billy Bush ("Extra") videotape replay. It still remains to be explained if he was embarrassed about this or that:

1. That the talk was recorded and played back during his first campaign (2016).

2. That the public and voters got to here it played over and over again.

3. That his children and grandchildren could hear it. 

But then, he and his team came up with a solution to the problem: Call it, "locker-room talk" and move on. 

Since then, the man has been and is for all intents and purposes: Shameless!

Go ahead Ms. Swift, endorse Joe Biden and it does not even have to happen while the whole world watches. . . because you have done the work required to be a big-Top influencer. You can do it now or wait and do it later. . . the effect will be same.

 
 
 
cjcold
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7  cjcold    10 months ago

Everybody already knows which direction traylor leans.

Nothing more needs to be said.

 
 
 
CB
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7.1  CB  replied to  cjcold @7    10 months ago

I agree that it is Taylor's prerogative to endorse or not endorse. . . but, as the situation would have it. . . if she does not speak after Trump made his 'delivery' and antagonistic statements (of sorts) against her presumed position. . .it will appear that she is doing his bidding. See what Trump has wrought in just a few words on a Super Bowl Sunday?

 
 
 
cjcold
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7.1.1  cjcold  replied to  CB @7.1    10 months ago

Used the word Traylor (Trav+Tay) They seem to think alike.

Cute couple and I wish them well. Screw all detractors!

Watching that kiss after the super bowl win was magic.

Sad that MAGA fascists are completely insane about her.

Taylor Swift for president in 2028! A perfect fit for the job!

She's already smarter and more politically knowledgeable than the vast majority of folk who ever ran for the job. 

And we get a built-in, tax free, 6'5" bodyguard as well.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  cjcold @7.1.1    10 months ago

And she has her own jet, which to my knowledge has never been grounded for Maintenace issues like....

 
 
 
cjcold
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7.1.3  cjcold  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.2    10 months ago

And she just bought a brand new jet so nothing will keep her from where she wants to go.

 
 
 
cjcold
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7.1.4  cjcold  replied to  CB @7.1    10 months ago

Very many days to go before the election.

Much can (and will) happen before 11-5-24.

 
 
 
George
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8  George    10 months ago

Anybody who votes for a candidate because a celebrity told them to is an idiot.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1  CB  replied to  George @8    10 months ago

Save it, George.  We all should know the value of influencers by now. They even make. . .wait for it. . . commercials. And we know why commercials are on t.v. . . .Just think how much the corporations are paying the NFL for valuable commercial space during its event.  Influence works!

Wow! Just now watched a Messi (soccer elite) ad for beer, wonder how much beer will be sold based on it. Influencing, is what he is 'there' to do!

 
 
 
cjcold
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8.1.7  cjcold  replied to  CB @8.1    10 months ago

Cool of Taylor Swift that she turned down all offers to make money at the SB and was just there for Travis and the Chiefs.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.8  CB  replied to  cjcold @8.1.7    10 months ago

Her coffers are currently full!

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  CB @8.1.8    10 months ago

Even after all of charitable things she supports with $$

 
 
 
cjcold
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8.1.10  cjcold  replied to  CB @8.1.8    10 months ago

I think a billion in the bank would indicate that.

 
 
 
cjcold
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8.3  cjcold  replied to  George @8    10 months ago

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Krishna
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9  Krishna    10 months ago

IIRC there is a video online of her saying she won’t endorse Trump, doesn’t like him — or words to that effect. (She ‘s at home talking with her parents). I don’t have time now but will look for later and post it if I can find it ( it might have been on Instagram?)

It’s  widely known that she has told her fans that it’s important to vote ( for whomever they choose) and urged them to register.

 
 
 
Krishna
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9.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @9    10 months ago
IIRC there is a video online of her saying she won’t endorse Trump, doesn’t like him — or words to that effect. (She ‘s at home talking with her parents). I don’t have time now but will look for later and post it if I can find it ( it might have been on Instagram?)

I found it. She's actually speaking out very strongly about Republican Martha Blackburn.of Tennessee, but there are references to Trump:

One of the film's most dramatic scenes shows Swift, eager to  speak out against the 2018 Senate campaign of Tennessee Republican Marsha Blackburn , meeting with her family to discuss it. Her father warns against it, citing the potential economic impact. Her publicist later advises President Donald Trump might come after her. Indeed, when Swift posted on Instagram against Blackburn and urged young voters to register, Trump said he liked Swift's music about 25% less — a response Swift mocks in the film.

Article in The Tennessean

 
 
 
cjcold
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9.2  cjcold  replied to  Krishna @9    10 months ago

Pretty sure that the vast majority of her fans know how she leans.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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10  MrFrost    10 months ago

Trump is so jealous it's not funny... 

 
 
 
Kavika
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11  author  Kavika     10 months ago

KC scored to go ahead 13 10 and Taylor Swift is celebrating and Trump is whining.

 
 
 
George
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11.1  George  replied to  Kavika @11    10 months ago

San Francisco is ahead and trump doesn’t care.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  George @11.1    10 months ago

Mediocre super bowl. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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11.1.2  author  Kavika   replied to  George @11.1    10 months ago
San Francisco is ahead and trump doesn’t care.

LOL he doesn't care so that's why he started up in the first place, oh wait it's Trump 

The score is now tied and Taylor is cheering again.

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.3  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.1    10 months ago

I actually think it is a great game . . . and now OVERTIME! Everything I got is "clenching" waiting to see this out!

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.5  CB  replied to  CB @11.1.3    10 months ago

Congratulations to Kansas City Chiefs! Nice last play to the game! Thank you S.F. for the great effort!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.4    10 months ago

It got exciting half way through the 4th quarter. Before that this was mediocre football by championship standards. 

I may be one of the few people in America who watched the entire game and didnt pay attention to a single commercial. I have no idea what was advertised. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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11.1.7  author  Kavika   replied to  CB @11.1.5    10 months ago

Yeah, San Francisco played a hell of a game.

 
 
 
GregTx
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11.1.8  GregTx  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.6    10 months ago

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JohnRussell
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11.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  GregTx @11.1.8    10 months ago

I'm sure your reply means something to you. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.6    10 months ago

Tony Romo has come under some criticism lately.  I thought he did a great job of analyzing the game tonight. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.10    10 months ago

I might as well comment on the halftime show.

If Usher is a superstar why did he need to have 6 or 7 "guest stars" for a 15 minute show?  It's like the NFL told him he's not big enough to go it alone. 

 
 
 
charger 383
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11.1.12  charger 383  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.10    10 months ago

Ilke Romo better than the others

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.13  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.11    10 months ago

I agree it was not enough of Usher (as the whole thing seemed 'hurried' more than usual), but perhaps Usher is "charitable" and shared it with his friends. Usher in a GMA interview says, 'I have been on a thirty-year journey and I did not get to this 'spot' (Super Bowl Special) by himself. . . so he is carrying all the great black artists with him (and thus some live on stage).'  Paraphrase. In addition, I have observed that Usher had more time than some half-time productions and stars. It seems to be 'trending' now to provide more celebrity "cameos"  for their song collaborations and enduring friendships. I am curious how Usher drew a line to the deep south's: JSU "Sonic Boom" marching band from Jackson, Mississippi.

It could explain the 'rush' of songs and hasty finish at the end. 

Shout out to Jackson State University Marching Band

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Sonic Boom featured in Super Bowl halftime show

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.14  CB  replied to  Kavika @11.1.7    10 months ago

Brock Purdy is young and this is his first. . .now he has somewhere to look forward to being. . . Next year 2025!  He could not have lost to a better team and that Mahomes (KC quarterback) is a 'beast.' 

 
 
 
CB
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11.1.15  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.6    10 months ago

You do have a good point. It was shaping up to be a routing for K.C. . .the first half. . . and the slow scoring progression. . . but then, K.C. Mahomes came in like Miley. . . with a 'wrecking ball' to swing at the 49'ers!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  GregTx @11.1.8    10 months ago

Comment needs to stand as it was replied to by the subject of it..........consistency in moderation

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.17  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.4    10 months ago

Comment needs to stand as it was replied to by the subject of it..........consistency in moderation

 
 
 
George
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11.1.18  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.16    10 months ago

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......................

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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11.1.19  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.16    10 months ago

It depends on who flagged it

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.20  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.1.19    10 months ago

Not true. I flagged one directed at Vic once and since he responded to it, it was left up.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11.1.21  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.20    10 months ago

The ruling was posted where everyone could see it for at least a week.

It doesn't matter who flags or responds, once there is a response it stands.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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11.1.24  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1.21    10 months ago
The ruling was posted where everyone could see it for at least a week.It doesn't matter who flags or responds, once there is a response it stands.

The ruling only applies if the person the comment was directed to responds. Then it is considered in play. If someone else responds to it, it can be moderated. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11.1.25  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.1.24    10 months ago
The ruling only applies if the person the comment was directed to responds.

Then you have to go back and do some ticketing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11.1.26  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.20    10 months ago
I flagged one directed at Vic once and since he responded to it, it was left up.

Can you recall where that was?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.28  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.27    10 months ago

Probably not but there are a few who do that with flagging.

 
 
 
devangelical
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11.1.29  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1.25    10 months ago

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Trout Giggles
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11.1.30  Trout Giggles  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.1.24    10 months ago

thank-you for the clarification. I hope the rule is understood this time

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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11.1.31  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1.25    10 months ago

If it older than 4 days old, (since we are a "News" site) I don't do retro ticketing, since that is just punitive.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
11.1.34  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.1.31    10 months ago

 I'm going to let it go.

This is not the first time we've gone one way for certain people and another for the rest of us.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.36  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.1.24    10 months ago
The ruling only applies if the person the comment was directed to responds. Then it is considered in play.

Then the two above in question should be recovered. (11.1.8 and 11.1.4)

 
 
 
George
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11.1.37  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.36    10 months ago

And the points if issued removed, 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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11.1.38  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.36    10 months ago

Jim,

Taunting is taunting no matter who says it, or where in the thread it is.

 
 
 
devangelical
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11.1.39  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.1.30    10 months ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
11.1.40  George  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.1.24    10 months ago
The ruling only applies if the person the comment was directed to responds. Then it is considered in play.

So why is Greg's comment still moderated if it is in play? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
11.1.41  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.1.38    10 months ago
Taunting is taunting no matter who says it, or where in the thread it is.

Judgement call.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
11.1.43  mocowgirl  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.42    10 months ago
All just depends on who us deemed to be taunting and who it is directed to.

I got flagged and points once.  That is all it took to put the person on permanent ignore.  My experience on this site has been drastically improved.  You might try it and see if it works for you as well.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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11.1.44  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1.34    10 months ago

Sounds like you aren't letting it go

 
 
 
cjcold
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11.1.45  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.1    10 months ago
Mediocre super bowl. 

We actually disagree for a change.

Could be because I live in KC and damn near had a heart attack a few times during that game! 

 
 
 
cjcold
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11.1.46  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.6    10 months ago
mediocre football

Teams with great defensive capabilities can make a game seem that way.

 
 
 
cjcold
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11.1.47  cjcold  replied to  CB @11.1.13    10 months ago

Have to admit, this old hippy musician from the 60s didn't recognize anybody and didn't expect to.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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11.1.48  Tessylo  replied to  George @11.1    10 months ago

Of course he cares!  jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
George
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12  George    10 months ago

Props to the Chiefs, first back to back since the patriots did it. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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12.1  cjcold  replied to  George @12    10 months ago
Props to the Chiefs

We finally agree on something. Who'd a thunk it!

 
 
 
Kavika
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13  author  Kavika     10 months ago

Wow, back to back and 3 of the last 5 SB.

Congratulations Chiefs.

And Taylor is kissing Travis.

 
 
 
cjcold
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13.1  cjcold  replied to  Kavika @13    10 months ago

Except for the few years I lived in Denver and was an Elway fan, I've always been a Chiefs fan (even during the bad years). 

 
 
 
George
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14  George    10 months ago

256

 
 
 
Kavika
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14.1  author  Kavika   replied to  George @14    10 months ago

LMAO

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
14.2  cjcold  replied to  George @14    10 months ago

As I was once a bouncer/bodyguard, I tend to notice the folk who are always behind Taylor. That short, fat, ugly guy with the glasses that is always behind her intrigues me. What is his training?

Thought I might have seen him once at ESI in Aspen. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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15  author  Kavika     10 months ago

The game proved a couple of things, Patrick Mahomes is in a class by himself and Brock Burdy isn't a game manager, he's an outstanding Qback who will keep getting better. I expect to see them facing each other in another Super Bowl.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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16  Trout Giggles    10 months ago

he is such a tool

 
 
 
devangelical
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16.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @16    10 months ago

that fucking moron just can't leave anyone alone and I'll bet she has lots of experience putting assholes in their places...

 
 
 
devangelical
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16.1.1  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @16.1    10 months ago

trump cannot stand to be out of the public light for any amount of time...

 
 
 
devangelical
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16.1.2  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @16.1.1    10 months ago

... and he hates anyone that he perceives as talking the spotlight off him.

 
 
 
devangelical
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16.1.3  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @16.1.2    10 months ago

oops. taking, not talking...

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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17  mocowgirl    10 months ago

Swift's rep may take a serious hit if she stays with Kelce after his display of temper tantrums at the Super Bowl.  Her fans are concerned about what he will do to her mental and physical health because her popularity far outshines his.  She could be only one temper tantrum away from bruises, broken bones or death.  I doubt they'll be concerned about or have much respect for her political views if she lowers her status to continue a relationship with a man with a violent temper.

Fans quickly took to social media to comment on the shocking moment, with some Swift fans labeling it a 'red flag' for the singer.

Elsewhere, some NFL fans called it a 'bad look' for the tight end, who is arguably the most famous football star in the planet after a monster season on and off the field. 

Incredibly, it is not the first time Kelce has suffered a similar meltdown. On  Christmas   Day, Kelce   had another tete-a-tete with coach Reid , and was spotted slamming his helmet to the floor during a 20-14 loss to the   Las Vegas Raiders .

Immediately after, a Chiefs staffer tried giving Kelce a replacement helmet, but he was quickly stopped by coach Reid - clearly worried that would get smashed too. 
 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
17.1  evilone  replied to  mocowgirl @17    10 months ago
Swift's rep may take a serious hit if she stays with Kelce after his display of temper tantrums at the Super Bowl.

Your link is click-bait site. I doubt much of anything could damage TS at this point. Football players getting animated on the sidelines is not a new issue and there have never been any rumors of Kelce doing anything remotely violent off the field. I am not a fan of either one of them, but I hate click-baity articles like your link.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
17.1.1  mocowgirl  replied to  evilone @17.1    10 months ago
Football players getting animated on the sidelines is not a new issue and there have never been any rumors of Kelce doing anything remotely violent off the field.

Defending a man with anger issues as being "animated" works great for everyone who never has to deal with him.  For the people who have been there and done that, this is a red flag.  If there is a pattern of public anger issues, then it is cause for concern of what has been shielded from the public.

Also, consider the following information, or don't.  However, Taylor's fans have valid reasons to be concerned about her being damaged by being in a relationship with a man who has public temper tantrums regardless of their occupation.  

All NFL Players Arrested for Domestic Violence (ranker.com)

Which NFL players were arrested for domestic violence? As much as people love the NFL, one of the biggest problems that the league has faced over the years is that its players are more likely, at least publicly, to commit domestic violence. Maybe it's a consequence of the violent nature of the sport. Given all of the attention NFL football players and domestic violence have received over the past few years, and NFL-specific education programs the league has put in place in recent years, it's surprising that players still end up in the police blotter. Many NFL players have been caught beating their wives or significant others and wind up getting arrested. While the NFL has cracked down on domestic violence, it's likely that it will happen again in the future.

The stories have gotten more coverage over the years, with the attention potentially peaking with the infamous Ray Rice incident that took place in February 2014. In recent years, NFL stars like Adrian Peterson, Kareem Hunt, and Jerry Jeudy have all been arrested for domestic violence.

If you're an NFL player, you don't want to end up on this list. But, that said, here are the   NFL players who have been arrested   on domestic violence charges.
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
17.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.1    10 months ago
Defending a man with anger issues as being "animated" works great for everyone who never has to deal with him.  For the people who have been there and done that, this is a red flag.  If there is a pattern of public anger issues, then it is cause for concern of what has been shielded from the public.

I would totally agree with this if it in any way manifested itself outside the football field.  Of course I have no clue if that is this case.  Although I agree people that are so emotional during a game may translate to a similar behavior off the field but I don't think that is necessarily the case.  I give it a yellow flag until something happens off the field, and I am not just talking about to a significant other but anywhere in public.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
17.1.3  mocowgirl  replied to  Right Down the Center @17.1.2    10 months ago
Of course I have no clue if that is this case.

Neither does anyone else - until it makes the news, unfortunately.

However, there is a pattern of behavior in everyone's life that should be considered because that is who they really are when life disappoints or frustrates them.  Some people take responsibility and deal with disappointment and frustration in ways that improve their lives and some people blame and destroy other people in order to deal with disappointment and frustration.

So if the pattern is established to lash out at other people in public, there is no reason to believe that it does not happen in private is there?  That is why this is considered a red flag.  There are other red flags to consider, but when frustration ends in physical violence, one is one too many if you are the person on the receiving end.   Unfortunately, these relationships  usually only start because a person ignores the established pattern of red flags in the first place.

Chiefs' Travis Kelce throws a punch at teammate as tempers flare during training camp

Kelce later apologized and said he needed to be a better leader

Published   July 29, 2023 4:45pm EDT
 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
17.1.4  evilone  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.1    10 months ago
Defending a man with anger issues as being "animated" works great for everyone who never has to deal with him.

First come up with someone who's actually experienced him having real anger issues instead of following a website that makes shit up. 

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
17.1.5  mocowgirl  replied to  evilone @17.1.4    10 months ago
First come up with someone who's actually experienced him having real anger issues instead of following a website that makes shit up. 

What actually happened at the Super Bowl is a red flag - period.  It was filmed and watched by ??? millions in real time.  

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
17.1.6  mocowgirl  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.5    10 months ago
What actually happened at the Super Bowl is a red flag - period.  It was filmed and watched by ??? millions in real time. 

Reactions are all over the web.  I am watching videos and reading comments to see how many people consider this acceptable behavior.  

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
17.1.7  evilone  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.5    10 months ago
What actually happened at the Super Bowl is a red flag - period.

Then pretty much every jock I've ever, met, followed or heard about is guilty. Good job! Hey by that metric almost ALL of humanity falls into your trap. We all suck... Thanks.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
17.1.8  mocowgirl  replied to  evilone @17.1.7    10 months ago
Then pretty much every jock I've ever, met, followed or heard about is guilty.

My experiences with jocks and yours are very different.  And evidently my experiences are very similar to a lot of people who see the difference between healthy emotional responses to intense situations and unhealthy, unacceptable responses to intense situations.  

Athletes should be required to have and respect the same boundaries as the rest of society.  And because some people see them as role models for children, this type of anger should be met with penalties from the organization they are representing.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
17.1.9  devangelical  replied to  evilone @17.1.7    10 months ago

testosterone and adrenaline, what a combo. add some gunpowder and poof, marine corps.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
17.1.10  evilone  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.8    10 months ago
Athletes should be required to have and respect the same boundaries as the rest of society.

I agree. All society should be required to respect the boundaries of others, but they don't. Across the world people are still debating what gender roles mean. It used to be "manly" to "grab 'em by the pussy" if one was famous. Cat calls and a slap on the ass to a waitress was flirting. Until very, very recently it was still legal to rape one's wife in most states. Rape kits are still not being tested and often not collected. Victim shaming is still the go to response by many men and some states are changing laws to insure that rape allegations must be filed right away or they don't count.

So, hey, our problem is not one football player dating a billionaire who got a little hot at his coach on TV and has no one saying anything but nice things about him when he's not on a football field. You can flag it all you want, but there are about a billion other more immediate known abusers who's victims don't have a billion dollars and an entourage of people to look after them. Taylor Swift is seems smart enough to look after herself.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
17.1.11  mocowgirl  replied to  evilone @17.1.10    10 months ago
Taylor Swift is seems smart enough to look after herself.

This is often said when a woman is married to an abuser and told that she should have been smarter and should have known what she was getting into.  It is not like he had "hid his temper" from anyone.  

Being a billionaire, does not make a person immune to abuse or being sucked into an abusive relationship.  

Hopefully, Taylor does not become another abuse statistic.  Only time will tell.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
17.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.11    10 months ago

This encounter between Kelce and his coach is not what you're making it out to be.  

It's all been explained.  Don't look to Fox 'news' for truth on any matter.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
17.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @17.1.12    10 months ago

or your other sources, the daily mail, etc.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
17.1.14  mocowgirl  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.8    10 months ago
My experiences with jocks and yours are very different.

There are actually programs that use sports as a way to curb violence and bring children together.  I love these programs that help kids develop a balanced view of playing a game.  Winning is not everything and neither is losing.  Sports is an activity to be enjoyed instead of viewing like the fate of civilization depends on the outcome.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
17.1.15  cjcold  replied to  evilone @17.1.4    10 months ago

Everybody who knows him says Travis is a teddy-bear sweetheart off the field.

One doesn't become a Travis Kelce by being gentle on the field.

His blocking is even more lethal than his running.

Cool that Taylor now has a built-in bodyguard.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
17.1.16  cjcold  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.1    10 months ago

Used to be a bouncer, bodyguard, paramedic, martial art instructor... but have never been violent with friends or a lover. 

Most of us who know how to turn it on also know how to keep it turned off. We have nothing to prove. 

Know many trained fighters who would back far away rather than be sucked into a fight.

Trav had it turned on in the most important game of his life. He allowed Jerick McKinnon to grab him, walk him away and cool him down (play of the game).

A few seconds later they were best friends again.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
17.1.17  cjcold  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.8    10 months ago

Pretty sure the NFL will be hitting Trav with a fine.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
17.1.18  cjcold  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.6    10 months ago

Have to agree to a certain point. Trav could probably benefit from an anger management class over the off season.

His displays of childish temper are unsettling.

Maybe some deep breathing exercises.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
17.1.19  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @17.1.18    10 months ago

Of course, it could have something to do with his stupid haircut and the overly large ugly beard.

Jeez Trav you're a semi handsome guy.

Stop fighting it!

And stop the steroids!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Guide
17.1.20  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @17.1.17    10 months ago

Pretty sure you’re wrong, much ado among the chattering class.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
17.1.21  mocowgirl  replied to  cjcold @17.1.18    10 months ago
His displays of childish temper are unsettling.

And dangerous to other people's mental health even as a bystander.

Very dangerous to other people's physical health if his temper fits escalate to violence.

This is why these displays of temper are considered a red flag and should not be ignored.  

Travis may benefit from counseling on understanding his anger issues.  No one benefits from being the target of another person's anger issues.

Note:  I have no issue with Taylor endorsing Biden for president.   I am truly concerned about her mental and physical well-being.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
17.1.22  devangelical  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.21    10 months ago
I am truly concerned about her mental and physical well-being.

nah she's smart, but I think missionary should probably be off the menu, so to speak...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
17.1.23  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @17.1.22    10 months ago

she's probably saving a little cash on security by hanging out with that talking sasquatch though...

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
17.1.24  cjcold  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.21    10 months ago

While I love Trav n Tay, (KC native) they both seem to be drinking a lot too much. Is this really the role model they want to present to their young impressionable fans?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
17.1.25  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @17.1.24    10 months ago

who cares? we'll both be long dead before they learn everything we had to at that age and we didn't listen to what people our age then were telling us...

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
17.1.26  mocowgirl  replied to  cjcold @17.1.24    10 months ago
While I love Trav n Tay, (KC native) they both seem to be drinking a lot too much. Is this really the role model they want to present to their young impressionable fans?

Per interviews, Taylor put a lot of effort into getting into shape for her Eras tour.  This included limiting alcohol consumption.  If she allows alcohol to ruin her life and career, then she will just be another role model for how alcoholism ruins lives.

A quote that was posted on our notice board when I worked at Wally World.

You Must Learn from the Mistakes of Others. You Will Never Live Long Enough to Make Them All Yourself – Quote Investigator®
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY
“You must learn from the mistakes of others. You can’t possibly live long enough to make them all yourself.”
– SAM LEVENSON
 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
17.1.27  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @17.1.24    10 months ago

I don't think there's any fear of Taylor becoming an alcoholic by celebrating her boyfriend's super bowl win and by celebrating now and again.  She's got a lot to celebrate.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
17.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  mocowgirl @17.1.26    10 months ago

I think Taylor will be just fine.

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
17.1.29  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @17.1.25    10 months ago

I agree.  People are making so much fuss about nothing.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
17.1.30  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @17.1.29    10 months ago

... some people like living in a soap opera.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
18  Right Down the Center    10 months ago

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CB
Professor Principal
19  CB    10 months ago

Something to consider: MAGA conservatives are very subtle, very deliberate, and very sneaky. So Trump announces from his 'loudspeaker' that Taylor Swift should not use the 'platform' of the Super Bowl to endorse (Biden) anybody. . . and then "heavy" trolling of her starts and whether she wants to endorse or not. . . she is being mentally PARALYZED and let to stare straight ahead at the "bright lights" shining in her face from. . .MAGAs. 

If I were Ms. Swift (I am not) I would realize that a sneak attack on my psyche has been invoked by MAGAs to give me (her) something to be distracted by and locked down! 

She has to extricate her mind from this actual (not imaginary) psyop (clandestine) attack from MAGAs. . . and the sooner she regains her and Kelce's release from the paralysis to speak as they choose ("freedom MAGA don't forget it!) the better off she will be once again to go out and create 'Swift Magic' (Copyrighted by CB.).

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
19.1  cjcold  replied to  CB @19    10 months ago

Pretty sure Trav and Tay both have huge brass balls and don't much care what detractors/fascists say about them.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
19.1.1  CB  replied to  cjcold @19.1    10 months ago

Trav and Tay: True winners in every sense of the word.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
19.1.2  cjcold  replied to  CB @19.1.1    10 months ago

I live in KC and at 34 TnT are both young enough to be my grandkids. I'm so proud of them in absentia.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
19.2  cjcold  replied to  CB @19    10 months ago

Actually, I don't find MAGA folk to be very subtle, deliberative or sneaky at all. 

I see them as being crude, hasty and obvious as all right-wing sub room temperature IQ fascists tend to be. 

The morons who worship Trump and are too stupid to see him for the evil sociopathic narcissist he has always been should not be allowed to vote.

There really should be some sort of IQ test for eligibility to vote. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
19.2.1  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @19.2    10 months ago
There really should be some sort of IQ test for eligibility to vote.

there is, it's demonstrated daily all around us here...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
19.2.2  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @19.2.1    10 months ago

... repeatedly.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
19.2.3  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @19.2.2    10 months ago

ad nauseam ...

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Guide
20  Veronica    10 months ago

It is amazing to me with all the shit going on in this country and the world people remain fixated on the lives of celebrities.  

My family watched the whole game (had a little party), enjoyed Reba's rendition of the National Anthem - did not watch the half time show - that is typically when we play a couple of drinking games.  Did not watch the post game celebration - so did not witness the "cute couple" on the field.  People get so caught up in this drama & shit when in reality so many of us have to get up in the wee hours, gulp some coffee and drag our asses to work.  

As far as Trump in regards to Taylor - sorry asshole - she made it all on her OWN - just like you say you did.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
20.1  CB  replied to  Veronica @20    10 months ago

Hi Veronica! The "ha-ha" on this is Taylor Swift did not ask for any of this' from Trump! She is just doing what it is she does and going where it is she wishes, and seeing the man she loves (and he loves her back) in his work. MAGAs see opportunity to diss her (what they do) for having a personal opinion for the 'other guy,' because they think she can be 'Whac-a-moled' (beat down) anytime she speaks up to endorse another person/s opposed to Trump.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
20.2  cjcold  replied to  Veronica @20    10 months ago

Think I'm getting too old to be watching football as a fan of KC.

That one almost gave me a heart attack!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
20.2.1  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @20.2    10 months ago

I was watching movies and youtube and remembered the game was probably still on. I'm not big on watching football games that last 5 hours. I switched channels in time to see the last 2+ minutes of regulation, and then I watched the overtime..., and then the prom king and queen sucking face after the big game ... that's about 99.9% of the sum total of NFL I watched this season. ... then back to movies and youtube.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
20.2.2  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @20.2.1    10 months ago

as an ex-broncos fan, I'm used to ignoring pro football for years at a time...

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
20.2.3  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @20.2.2    10 months ago

Luckily, my Denver days were also the Elway days.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
20.2.4  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @20.2.3    10 months ago

lots of spills and thrills in the early days ...

never met him, but his first wife was a real sweetheart...

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
20.2.5  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @20.2.4    10 months ago
never met him

Me neither but lived on Colfax within easy walking distance of Mile High and attended many games.

Tailgating at Mile High was second only to Arrowhead where it has become an artform.

While it is true that I suffered through a few lean years at Arrowhead, the Mahomes era is more than making up for it.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
20.2.6  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @20.2.5    10 months ago

kansas deserves to look forward to something, too bad you have to share them with missouri...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
20.2.7  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @20.2.6    10 months ago

KC fans definitely were out in team colors everywhere I went.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
20.3  cjcold  replied to  Veronica @20    10 months ago

Gotta give Taylor's folks some props. They picked up stakes and moved to give Tay her best shot when she was just a kid.

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Guide
20.3.1  Veronica  replied to  cjcold @20.3    10 months ago
Gotta give Taylor's folks some props

Oh, I do...I was simply throwing back at those here on NT that think Trump (and any wealthy person) did it on their own, with no help from anyone (including parents that give billions, workers that produce the goods they sell, ETC.).  I am so sick of the spouting of those people did it on their own... 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
20.3.2  cjcold  replied to  Veronica @20.3.1    10 months ago

No man (woman) is an island.

I owe whatever success I've had in my life to good genes, fine friends and terrific teachers.

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Guide
20.3.3  Veronica  replied to  cjcold @20.3.2    10 months ago

Not to some on here.  Some here believe the wealthy & "job providers" had no help from anyone and deserve to be selfish & not pay taxes.... LOL

 
 

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