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The Tucker Carlson exclusive interview

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  10 months ago  •  7 comments

The Tucker Carlson exclusive interview
Carlson argued “it’s our job” to talk to Putin, adding Americans “are not informed” about the war and are “paying for much of it in ways they might not fully yet perceive,” alluding to U.S. foreign aid to Ukraine, a subject Carlson has roundly criticized.

 Tucker Calson, whom we thought would be relegated to x, has once again become the center of controversy. He decided to interview Putin in Moscow, setting up the Russian president’s first interview with a western media figure since Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022.  Carlson is one who likes to ask questions about policy, events and the media. The kind of curiosity the radical left likes to brand as "conspiracy theories." In any event Vladimir Putin was offered an opportunity to explain to the rest of the world why he has invaded Ukraine twice thus far. I watched the entire interview on YouTube, and I found it to be very interesting for many reasons.

First of all, Putin took about 40 minutes to offer up a monologue on the history of Ukraine. It went back centuries, and one thing was clear: Putin is still sharp and more than capable of discussing history. The entire interview ran over two hours and Putin was not looking at notes. He took questions and gave answers that were quite interesting. I am not going through all of the questions; I just want to focus on three highlights:


1) Carlson asked if he thought Ukrainian President Zelensky still "has the freedom to negotiate a settlement to this conflict," Putin answered that he believed so. Putin added that after Russian negotiators attempted to reach a peace deal with Ukraine during the early stages of the war that began in February 2022, Western countries persuaded Zelensky to keep fighting. Putin said that people in the US thought Ukraine could win that war. Putin continued with I wonder if they believe that now. However, Putin went on to make an enormous mistake that Russian media tried to clean up. Putin added that Zelensky's "father fought against the fascists, the Nazis, during World War II." One of the initial justifications Putin has given for the war he started was to rid that country of "Nazis."  Something that was condemned as nonsense by most of the known world.

Putin continued: "Once I talked to him about this. I said, 'Volodya, what are you doing? Why do you support neo-Nazis in Ukraine today when your father fought against fascism?' where during what Moscow calls the Great Patriotic War fought by the USSR against Germany, he was a "a front-line soldier."

Zelensky's father, Oleksandr was not born until 1947, two years after the war ended, although his father—the Ukrainian president's grandfather, Semyon, did fight, investigative Russian language outlet Agentstvo noted.

Russian Media Scrambles to Bury Putin's Tucker Carlson Interview Gaffes (msn.com)


2) The most interesting thing from my perspective was when Carlson asked Putin who he thought sabotaged the Nord stream Pipeline. Putin said there is a saying in Russia: "who has the most interest in doing such a thing?" Puttin added "but here we have a second question: "who had the capability to do it?"  He said it so well and of course we all know the answer.


3)
"Carlson and Putin spoke about how the U.S. and Russia seemed as though they would have good relations after the fall of the Soviet Union, but that hasn't been the case. The conservative media personality brought up how Putin has said the West fears a strong Russia and asked why that is, if the U.S. doesn't fear China.

"The West is afraid of strong China more than it fears a strong Russia, because Russia has 150 million people and China has 1.5 billion population. And its economy is growing by leaps and bounds, or 5 percent a year," Putin answered.

He continued: "China's potential is enormous. It is the biggest economy in the world today in terms of purchasing power parity and the size of the economy. It is already overtaking the United States quite a long time ago, and it is growing at a rapid clip."


The Russian president then moved away from the thought by saying, "Let's not talk about who is afraid of whom. Let's not reason in such terms."

Four Highlights From Tucker Carlson's Interview With Vladimir Putin (msn.com)

If anyone is interested in the full interview:




In other news:

A judge in Georgia this week will hear evidence on the romantic relationship between two prosecutors leading an election interference case against Trump. They may have already lied to the court.

The Senate appears on track to pass a bipartisan bill to aid Ukraine and Israel. However, House Speaker Johnson says no border provision likely means it will be defeated in the House.

Joe Biden said the U.S. was helping to negotiate a deal that would free hostages and pause fighting for at least six weeks. The C.I.A. director is expected in Cairo today for talks involving such a deal.

The House will again try to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas.




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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

Good morning

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Although many democrats simply march to the drumbeat of the world's greatest liar Hillary Clinton, the threat from Russia must be taken seriously. Neither Barack Obama nor Joe Biden were able to deter Russia. Soon the Ukraine war will most likely end via a negotiated settlement. Tucker Carlson has tried to find out what those negotiations might be like. It is hard to contemplate that Ukraine will have to make a concession to let everyone out of this. We can only wonder what the deal will be,

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    10 months ago

What good is a 40 minute monologue on the history of Ukraine if its all lies ? 

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Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    10 months ago

Putin believes that Ukraine has always been tied to Russia. If you took the time to listen, you might have got a bit of an idea of what makes him tic. 

The question now is how does everyone get out of this stalemate before it turns into a Russian victory? 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2    10 months ago

So Putin lies, just like Brandon.

One thing he is not lying about is Ukraine's Nazi/Fascist issues.

No, it is not the reason he went to war with Ukraine. 

That has to do with the US/NATO flipping forming Russian block countries. When Obama backed (instigated) a coup to overthrow a duly elected pro Russian government- Putin reacted the same way he did with Georgia- when Bush Jr attempted to flip them. Would the US tolerate a pro Russian/China government taking hold in Canada or Mexico?  

Nowadays,   Ukraine counts   between 56,000 to 140,000 Jews, who enjoy freedoms and protections never imagined by their grandparents. That includes an updated law passed last month   criminalizing antisemitic acts . Unfortunately, the law was intended to address a pronounced uptick in public displays of bigotry, including   swastika-laden vandalism   of synagogues and Jewish memorials, and   eerie marches in Kyiv   and other cities that   celebrated the Waffen SS .

In another ominous development, Ukraine has in recent years erected a glut of statues honoring Ukrainian nationalists whose legacies are tainted by their indisputable record as Nazi proxies. The Forward newspaper   cataloged   some of these deplorables, including   Stepan Bandera , leader of the   Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) , whose followers acted as local militia members for the SS and German army. “Ukraine has several dozen monuments and scores of street names glorifying this Nazi collaborator, enough to require two separate   Wikipedia   pages ,” the Forward wrote.

Another frequent honoree is   Roman Shukhevych , revered as a Ukrainian freedom fighter but also the leader of a feared Nazi auxiliary police unit that the Forward notes was “responsible for butchering thousands of Jews and … Poles.” Statues have also been raised for   Yaroslav Stetsko , a one-time chair of the OUN, who wrote “I insist on the extermination of the Jews in Ukraine.”

Far-right groups have also gained political currency in the past decade, none more chilling than   Svoboda   (formerly the Social National Party of Ukraine), whose leader claimed the country was controlled by a “ Muscovite-Jewish mafia ” and whose deputy used an antisemitic slur to describe Ukrainian-born Jewish actor Mila Kunis. Svoboda has sent several members to Ukraine’s Parliament, including one who called the Holocaust a “ bright period ” in human history, according to Foreign Policy.

Just as disturbing,   neo-Nazis are part of   some of Ukraine’s growing ranks of volunteer battalions. They are battle-hardened after waging some of the toughest street fighting against Moscow-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine following Putin’s Crimean invasion in 2014. One is the   Azov Battalion , founded by an avowed white supremacist who claimed Ukraine’s   national purpose   was to rid the country of Jews and other inferior races. In 2018, the U.S. Congress stipulated that its   aid to Ukraine   couldn’t be used “to provide arms, training or other assistance to the Azov Battalion.” Even so, Azov is now an   official member   of the Ukraine National Guard.

As Ukraine's struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law enforcement agencies.
A January 28 demonstration, in Kiev, by 600 members of the so-called “National Militia,” a newly-formed ultranationalist group that vows "to use force to establish order," illustrates this threat. While the group’s Kiev launch was peaceful, National Militia members in balaclavas stormed a city council meeting in the central Ukrainian town of Cherkasy the following day, skirmishing with deputies and forcing them to pass a new budget.
Many of the National Militia's members come from the Azov movement, one of the 30-odd privately-funded “volunteer battalions” that, in the early days of the war, helped the regular army to defend Ukrainian territory against Russia's separatist proxies. Although Azov uses Nazi-era symbolism and recruits neo-Nazis into its ranks, a recent article in Foreign Affairs downplayed any risks the group might pose, pointing out that, like other volunteer militias, Azov has been “reined in” through its integration into Ukraine’s armed forces. While it’s true that private militias no longer rule the battlefront, it’s the home front that Kiev needs to worry about now.
When Russian President Vladimir Putin’s seizure of Crimea four years ago first exposed the decrepit condition of Ukraine’s armed forces, right-wing militias such as Azov and Right Sector stepped into the breach, fending off the Russian-backed separatists while Ukraine’s regular military regrouped. Though, as a result, many Ukrainians continue to regard the militias with gratitude and admiration, the more extreme among these groups promote an intolerant and illiberal ideology that will endanger Ukraine in the long term. Since the Crimean crisis, the militias have been formally integrated into Ukraine’s armed forces, but some have resisted full integration: Azov, for example, runs its own children’s training camp, and the careers section instructs recruits who wish to transfer to Azov from a regular military unit.
According to Freedom House’s Ukraine project director Matthew Schaaf, “numerous organized radical right-wing groups exist in Ukraine, and while the volunteer battalions may have been officially integrated into state structures, some of them have since spun off political and non-profit structures to implement their vision.” Schaaf noted that “an increase in patriotic discourse supporting Ukraine in its conflict with Russia has coincided with an apparent increase in both public hate speech, sometimes by public officials and magnified by the media, as well as violence towards vulnerable groups such as the LGBT community,” an observation that is supported by a recent Council of Europe study.
In recent months, Ukraine has experienced a wave of unchecked vigilantism. Institute Respublica, a local pro-democracy NGO, reported that activists are frequently harassed by vigilantes when holding legal meetings or rallies related to politically-controversial positions , such as the promotion of LGBT rights or opposition to the war. Azov and other militias have attacked anti-fascist demonstrations, city council meetings, media outlets, art exhibitions, foreign students and Roma. Progressive activists describe a new climate of fear that they say has been intensifying ever since last year's near-fatal stabbing of anti-war activist Stas Serhiyenko, which is believed to have been perpetrated by an extremist group named C14 (the name refers to a 14-word slogan popular among white supremacists). Brutal attacks this month on International Women’s Day marches in several Ukrainian cities prompted an unusually forceful statement from Amnesty International, which warned that "the Ukrainian state is rapidly losing its monopoly on violence.”
Ukraine is not the only country that must contend with a resurgent far right. But Kiev’s recent efforts to incorporate independent armed groups into its regular armed forces, as well as a continuing national sense of indebtedness to the militias for their defense of the homeland, make addressing the ultranationalist threat considerably more complicated than it is elsewhere. According to Schaaf and the Institute Respublica, Ukrainian extremists are rarely punished for acts of violence. In some cases — such as C14's January attack on a remembrance gathering for two murdered journalists — police actually detain peaceful demonstrators instead.
That is what Brandon has us supporting- a growing thriving Nazi/Fascist movement that has been fully embraced by the government.
Considering our historical lack of success at nation building- want to lay odds Ukraine will fuck the US over once the war (and the hundreds of billions of dollars in aide and military hardware is lost) is over and we have sunk hundreds of billions more into it for rebuilding?
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

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Oh yes, and I'm sure Zuckerberg was happy to oblige.

He did much to interfere with the 2020 election.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago


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JBB
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