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The Truth be known

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  vic-eldred  •  10 months ago  •  74 comments

The Truth be known
"It is with sincere sadness and an extremely heavy and broken heart that we let our community know that KKFI DJ Lisa Lopez, host of Taste of Tejano lost her life today in the shooting at the KC Chiefs' rally. Our hearts and prayers are with her family," the radio station said in a statement Wednesday. "This senseless act has taken a beautiful person from her family and this KC Community."

Link to quote: Investigators search for answers in mass shooting at Chiefs' Super Bowl celebration (msn.com)

The Kansas City Chiefs victory parade was marred by a shooting which left 1 dead and 21 injured. Children seemed to be the targets and unlike the typical crazed shooter arrack, this one involves at least 3 individuals who have been in custody since yesterday. The White House and federal authorities were in contact with local authorities right after the attack. The FBI is likely involved in the investigation.

Here is what is not being revealed:

1) The identities of the 3 in custody

2) Their possible motives

This much has stood out: Without "knowing the motive," the following statement was released:

Multiple law enforcement sources told ABC News on Wednesday that there was no evidence pointing to terrorism thus far and the local police department would remain the lead agency in the investigation for now.

Investigators search for answers in mass shooting at Chiefs' Super Bowl celebration (msn.com)



We will wait for information from Biden's FBI



In other news:

Joe Biden used his immigration authority to shield about 6,000 Palestinians in the US from deportation.

Israeli forces have entered a hospital complex which Hamas has used to hide its fighters and the bodies of hostages.

US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) may release thousands of migrants en masse and significantly slash its holding spaces for detainees as the agency battles a $700 million budget shortfall, according to a new report.

Chuck Schumer is planning to quickly dismiss the House’s impeachment articles against Alejandro Mayorkas.

Nikki Haley trails Trump in her home state, South Carolina.

Jack Smith, the special counsel prosecuting Trump on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, urged the Supreme Court to let the trial begin ASAP!!!!!!

The New York judge overseeing Trump’s criminal case over hush-money payments to a porn star is expected to rule today on whether the case can move to trial next month. Donald Trump is in NYC as he continues his superhuman busy schedule.

Fani Willis will appear in Court today.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

Good morning

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It must be agonizing to tell the people who did this.  That would explain the delay, wouldn't it?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    10 months ago
Here is what is not being revealed:

the weekly "thug" article...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @1.1    10 months ago

Well, if the shooter(s) was a white xtian thumper, it would be all over the front pages by now.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.1    10 months ago
Well, if the shooter(s) was a white xtian thumper, it would be all over the front pages by now.

Without a doubt.

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.3  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @1.1    9 months ago
the weekly "thug" article...

And it was those thugs that went to help the kids during the shooting and one that tackled one of the shooters and held him with the help of others until he police got there.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @1.1.3    9 months ago

there's a short youtube video of the perp tackle...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.1.5  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @1.1.4    9 months ago
there's a short youtube video of the perp tackle...

I saw it, that shooter wasn't going anywhere. Good for KC residents.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    10 months ago
Jack Smith, the special counsel prosecuting Trump on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, urged the Supreme Court to let the trial begin ASAP!!!!!!

Donald Trump, in his heart of hearts, is not concerned that he's going to be railroaded by left wing juries in New York and in DC. He is rather, terrified of what is coming in the January 6th case. Numerous people who were White House insiders at the time are going to testify against Donald Trump. These are people who are Republicans. Who were originally completely loyal to Trump and wanted to work in his administration. Because they believed in what he was doing.

And because of what he did after the election they testified against him to the January 6th Committee and grand juries. And they are going to testify against him at the public trial. That is why he wants to delay the trial. Not because he is going to be railroaded.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    10 months ago

The Jan 6th committee was a SHAM.

Any thoughts on who those shooters were yesterday?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    10 months ago

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JohnRussell
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2.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    10 months ago

Did you remove part of the original article ? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    10 months ago

Why would the Kansas City police want to cover up your allegation that the shooters were illegal aliens? Are you claiming that the KC Police Dept is "leftist" ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    10 months ago

I know this much:

1) The Jan 6th Committee was completely selected by Nancy Pelosi.

2) The Committee hired a TV executive to produce the hearings for TV consumption

3) The Committee deposed people privately and played portions of those interviews

4) The Committee destroyed hundreds of files just before Republicans took over the House. (A violation of House rules btw)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    10 months ago

I did. I'd rather it be confirmed by local police first.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    10 months ago
Why would the Kansas City police want to cover up your allegation that the shooters were illegal aliens?

They would delay the release of information if the Feds asked them to.


 Are you claiming that the KC Police Dept is "leftist" ? 

No. The White House however, clearly is leftist.

And the shooters being led by an illegal alien is really bad press for Joe Biden.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    10 months ago

Not one of your complaints is worth a bucket of warm piss. 

The EVIDENCE is what has worth.  And the committee developed the evidence, evidence that Trump is desperate to have kept from the eyes of 320 million Americans. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.7    10 months ago

The "evidence" that even Biden's DOJ wouldn't act on.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.7    10 months ago
kept from the eyes of 320 million Americans.

Do you really think 320 million Americans give a bucket of warm piss at this point?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.9    10 months ago

Are you trying to claim  that 320 million Americans don't care if their potential next president is a traitor ?

I don't really want to believe that.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.10    10 months ago

I am saying millions of people are over three years of Jan 6th Jan 6th Jen 6th all the time

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.12  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.11    10 months ago

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JohnRussell
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2.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.11    10 months ago

Why would they be over it when the perp hasnt been brought to justice yet ? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.13    10 months ago
Why would they be over it when the perp hasnt been brought to justice yet ?

They have their own lives and don't have TDS

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.10    10 months ago
Are you trying to claim  that 320 million Americans don't care if their potential next president is a traitor ? I don't really want to believe that.

Whether you personally believe it doesn't matter.

Millions, including yourself, are cheerleading others into voting for Traitor Joe, and millions more are cheerleading for Trump, so wtf is so hard to believe?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.16  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.10    10 months ago

Why would they when the current occupant of the White House is a career criminal traitor?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2    10 months ago

In trial (unless the Democrat appointed leftist judge tries to restrict evidence from the defense) Trump's defense lawyers will be able to cross examine witness under oath. We will see how well they hold up when they are not coached by leftist lawyers and spoon fed questions by Pelosi hand picked TDS driven Jan 6th committee members. 

Trump's legal team will also be able to call their own witnesses- ones that were fully avoided by the Jan 6th committee because they had evidence that didn't fit the committee's scripted narrative.

But continue to think you have the whole damn story. I am sure new evidence will come out that will leave you have you waking up screaming. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    10 months ago

Please tell us about the evidence that will mitigate the fact that Trump sat with his thumb up his ass for hours while the "riot" unfolded. 

When asked about that fact a few months ago by an interviewer Trump said, and I quote, "I'm not going to tell you that".

That sounds like an innocent man to you? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    10 months ago
Please tell us about the evidence that will mitigate the fact that Trump sat with his thumb up his ass for hours while the "riot" unfolded.

What are the sentencing guidelines for sitting with your thumb up your ass when there is a riot going on nearby?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.2    10 months ago

Believe it or not, Trump sitting with his thumb up his ass is EVIDENCE against him on the charges. Watch and see.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.2.4  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.2    10 months ago

That is not a crime, but it is evidence in support of a crime.   More running interference for Trump.

You did not read the Jan 6 indictment?    

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Texan1211
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2.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.3    10 months ago
Believe it or not, Trump sitting with his thumb up his ass is EVIDENCE against him on the charges. Watch and see.

Evidence of wat, though?

Is everyone who didn't do anything also guilty before being charged?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.4    10 months ago
That is not a crime,

Exactly

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.7  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.6    10 months ago

Now read the rest of my comment rather than engage in confirmation bias.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.3    10 months ago
Believe it or not, Trump sitting with his thumb up his ass is EVIDENCE against him on the charges. Watch and see.

If the charge is stinky thumb then he is in trouble.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.6    10 months ago
Exactly

The rest is just opinion and fluff.

But we will hear round-about stories and theories, ad nauseum.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.7    10 months ago

The rest of your comment is irrelevant to mine.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.9    10 months ago

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Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.2.12  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.4    10 months ago

So No evidence of coordination, incitement or direction of the Crowd then?

its treason to disagree with the vice president, criticize him or fail to act appropriately? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.13  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.12    10 months ago
So No evidence of coordination, incitement or direction of the Crowd then? its treason to disagree with the vice president, criticize him or fail to act appropriately? 

It's only treason if it is Trump.

Of course, if Dems have their way, disagreeing with Kooky Kamala will be considered treason next.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.2.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.13    10 months ago

and if Trump's failure to act on Jan 6th is a crime,  Biden is in trouble for the  border. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.14    10 months ago
and if Trump's failure to act on Jan 6th is a crime,  Biden is in trouble for the  border. 

We all realize what the endgame on immigration is for the Democrats--the same as always.

Amnesty.

Personally, I think it would be a great idea to not let anyone in who isn't self-supporting, including asylum seekers.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.2.16  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.4    10 months ago

Please look at your 114 a & b and then never question why l believe leftists live in an alternate TDS world.

Anyone that believes Trump isn't calling for the protestors to be peaceful or is anyway trying to incite is an absolute TDS mighty mental midget. 

Talk about completely redefining words!

What the hell, did Bill Clinton come up with this one?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.2.17  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.12    10 months ago
So No evidence of coordination, incitement or direction of the Crowd then?

There is plenty of evidence.   We have all seen much of it.   Smith has chosen to focus on charges that are based on overwhelming, cogent evidence.

its treason to disagree with the vice president, criticize him or fail to act appropriately? 

Asking stupid questions like this accomplishes nothing other than show that you have to run to ridiculous strawmen in lieu of an argument.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.18  Texan1211  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2.16    10 months ago

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TᵢG
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2.2.19  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2.16    10 months ago

A perfect example of you cherry-picking the most Trump-favorable tidbits while ignoring everything else.   In addition, you ignore that Smith here is pointing out that this is ALL Trump did in spite of urging by staff, friends, and family and that even here he is falsely claiming that the crowd is being peaceful and he did not tell the crowd to cease & desist (to go home).

Confirmation bias in full display.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.2.20  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.14    10 months ago
... and if Trump's failure to act on Jan 6th is a crime,  Biden is in trouble for the  border. 

Trump is not charged with a crime merely for his failure to act.   His failure to act is evidence of his intent for the insurrection to continue to obstruct an official proceeding of Congress.   Read the indictment.   He is charged with conspiracy to defraud and obstruct:

Count 1: 18 U.S.C. § 371 (Conspiracy to Defraud the United States)
Count 2: 18 U.S.C. § 1512(k) (Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)
Count 3: 18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(c)(2), 2 (Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)
Count 4: 18 U.S.C. § 241 (Conspiracy Against Rights)
 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.2.21  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.15    10 months ago
We all realize what the endgame on immigration is for the Democrats--the same as always.

Would you say that illegal immigration inaction by the Biden administration is the key issue in 2024?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.22  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.21    9 months ago

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[The Impasse tool is at your disposal.  Please use it instead of repeatedly refusing to answer someone.]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.23  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.20    9 months ago
His failure to act is evidence of his intent for the insurrection to continue to obstruct an official proceeding of Congress.

Bingo !

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.24  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.23    9 months ago

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TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.2.25  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.24    9 months ago

Other than a blind defense for Trump, why do you think that is a crock?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.26  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.24    9 months ago

Until you demonstrate that you know a single thing about Jan 6th there is no reason to converse with you about this. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.27  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.25    9 months ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.28  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.26    9 months ago

a crock is a crock.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.2.29  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.27    9 months ago

If you cannot handle questions then you have a problem because you willingly participate in a forum.

You do not have the option to demand who can ask you questions.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.30  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.29    9 months ago

you don't read or accept answers, so no point in answering questions repeatedly.

you can ask, doesn't mean you'll be getting any more answers.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.31  Texan1211  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.22    9 months ago

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Greg Jones
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2.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2    10 months ago

At some point sooner than later, these trumped-up prosecutions are going to be considered to be election interference.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.3.1  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @2.3    10 months ago

At some point sooner than later, these trumped-up prosecutions are going to be considered to be election interference.

No, they won't. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

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Is this one of the shooters?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

How about this one?

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Where did they come from?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @4    10 months ago

MSM is very quiet about this story. 

After all, only one person was killed and 21 injured, and apparently the shooter wasn't white.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

Comer probes whether Biden used bank account to get money from grandkids: "I don't know anyone in the world whose grandchildren have ever deposited money into a savings account for their elderly grandfather."

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Vic Eldred
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6  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

Live on Fox News now is the Judge in the Fani Willis case considering whether to remove her from the case.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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6.1  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    10 months ago

This is an interesting one. If the DA is removed, another DA & county (?) would have to be brought in to continue the case and would that new DA be willing to keep the RECO case? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Snuffy @6.1    10 months ago

If the case is to go forward with Willis removed, others would need to take it on for it to continue. It is a complicated case, so it is questionable if others would want to try.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  author  Vic Eldred    10 months ago

Democrats unveil new hip hop task force to tackle racial inequity.

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Democrats unveil new hip hop task force to tackle racial inequity | The Hill

 
 
 
Ronin2
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7.1  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    10 months ago

Groan.

What won't Democrats waste money on.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @7.1    10 months ago

They now fear that DEI is dead.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
7.1.2  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    10 months ago

Affirmative action = DEI = Racism,  they will find another name, racist always do.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    10 months ago

My Challege for today:

How much of this:

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will it take to get me to join the "Hip Hop Task Force?'

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2    10 months ago

Don't try it.

You might die of alcohol poisoning first. 

That would still be the lesser of two evils.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
8  Nerm_L    10 months ago

According to 'live' reporting by Scripps, there were 800 cops deployed to the event and a number of paramedic units pre-positioned.  And it was civilians who captured two of the shooters.  Yep, it's the perfect setup to demand gun bans.  So, let's hear the worthless Republican rebuttal.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
8.1  charger 383  replied to  Nerm_L @8    10 months ago
   "So, let's hear the worthless Republican rebuttal."
I don't understand that part of the post

 
 

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