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Nearly Half of Voters Think Biden will be Replaced as Democratic Nominee

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  robert-in-ohio  •  8 months ago  •  55 comments

By:   Sudiksha Kochi, USA TODAY

Nearly Half of Voters Think Biden will be Replaced as Democratic Nominee
The voters that think Biden will be replaced generally cited concerns about his age, physical health and mental stamina as reasons for why.

I t seems that more and more likely American voters are disinterested in the candidates offered by the two major political parties in 2024.

Time for new faces, new choices, new chances for the United States

Nothing new here but the need to replace one or both of the major party candidates is an encouraging bit of news


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


President Joe Biden’s age and former President Donald Trump’s legal troubles may be casting doubts among voters on whether the two candidates will end up as their party’s nominee, according to a new Monmouth University poll released Thursday.

The poll,   conducted between   Feb. 8 and Feb. 12, found that 48% of voters think it is very or somewhat likely that Biden will be replaced as the Democratic nominee. By comparison, the poll found that 32% of voters think it is very or somewhat likely that Trump will be replaced as the Republican nominee.

he voters that think Biden will be replaced generally cited concerns about his age, physical health and mental stamina as reasons for why.

Questions around Biden’s age and acuity have only increased after special counsel Robert Hur released a scathing report that portrayed the president as a “well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.”

“The Hur report doesn’t seem to have shifted public opinion on whether Biden mishandled classified documents. At the same time, it probably has done more to reinforce existing views of Biden’s physical and mental vigor. When we asked a different   question about each candidate’s age   back in the fall, there was already a wide gap in concern about Biden compared with Trump,” Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute,   said in a news release.

Most voters who think Trump will be replaced cited his legal troubles while a few mentioned his health.

Trump currently faces 91 felony charges across four indictments for his alleged efforts in trying to overturn the 2020 election, mishandling classified documents and falsifying business records. He also faces numerous civil lawsuits.


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Robert in Ohio
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1  seeder  Robert in Ohio    8 months ago

I think everyone on NT knows that I do not want either Biden or Trump to be in the White House, but apparently there are a lot of citizens that agree with me

What will happen if one or both have to drop out of the race - who drops in for the Democrats?  Who drops in for the Republicans?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    8 months ago

I'm one that agrees with you. 

No telling about the Democrats, but I think it would most likely be Kamala Harris which scares me to no end. On the Republican side it would probably be Nikki Haley.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    8 months ago

If Trump is out, Haley is the logical choice.   But that does not really mean anything in today's GOP.

If Biden is out, there is no clear choice.   The Ds would scramble.

Here is Forbes' opinion:  

Harris   is the most obvious, de facto pick for a potential Biden replacement on the general election ticket, but her bleak polling numbers (her approval rating currently stands at 38%, according to   FiveThirtyEight ) would likely raise concerns that she could lose the general election to former President Donald Trump, the GOP’s presumptive nominee.

California Gov.   Gavin Newsom ’s political activity, including his support for Democrats in elections outside of California, prompted rumors last year he was running a “ shadow campaign ” for the White House, but Newsom has   firmly dismissed   the possibility, vowing his allegiance to Biden’s 2024 campaign and serving as a Biden campaign surrogate.

Other Democratic governors who have elevated their national profiles—Illinois Gov.   J.B.  Pritzker , Michigan Gov.   Gretchen  Whitmer , Colorado Gov.   Jared  Polis   and Pennsylvania Gov.   Josh  Shapiro —are also regularly listed as potential Biden alternatives, especially after all four won gubernatorial races by double digits in 2022, but they’re all stumping for Biden’s 2024 campaign and have ruled out running against him.

An advisor to Sen.   Bernie Sanders   (I-Vt.), who is a year older than Biden,   said in a 2022   memo he hadn’t ruled out a run for president in 2024 in the event of an open primary, but Sanders has since pledged to sit out the race and has endorsed Biden instead (Sanders ran in the 2016 and 2020 primaries but fell short to Hillary Clinton and Biden, and some Democrats fear his status as a self-described   democratic socialist   could harm his general election chances).

None of the candidates currently running against Biden are considered viable challengers, but they could see Biden dropping out of the race as a chance to build enthusiasm for their long-shot candidacies—those challengers include independents   Robert F. Kennedy Jr.   and   Cornel West , and Democratic primary contender Rep.   Dean Phillips   (D-Minn.).

Which nets down to:

  • Harris
  • Newsom
  • Prtizker
  • Whitmer
  • Polis
  • Shapiro

The last four being the more sensible choices, IMO.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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2  seeder  Robert in Ohio    8 months ago

With one of the   2024 presidential   candidates facing   four criminal indictments   and the other recently described as having   "diminished capacities, " voters are asking a key question as they get ready to head to the ballot box: What happens if a candidate, for whatever reason, has to drop out of the race?" 

The likely rematch between President Joe Biden and presumptive Republican nominee former President Donald Trump will be the first time in the country's history a major presidential candidate, Trump, faces   over 90 charges in four indictments ranging from New York to Florida.   The former president and his businesses also face a   number of civil lawsuits.

For Biden,   age has been a concern among voters  heading into the election, but a recent report from the Justice Department special counsel investigating  his handling of classified documents   thrust the issue into the spotlight after portraying Biden as an elderly man with "diminished capacities" and memory loss.

Here's what happens if Trump, Biden have to drop out of 2024 race (usatoday.com)

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    8 months ago

Half of Americans believe in big foot, poltergeist and spiritualists...

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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3.1  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  JBB @3    8 months ago

jbb

When you are right, you are right - a lot of Americans are kind of stupid about some things, but even those folks are becoming more and more skeptical of the candidates presented by the Democrats and the Republicans

Thaks for sharing your insight

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.1  JBB  replied to  Robert in Ohio @3.1    8 months ago

original

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @3    8 months ago

Most of those morons vote for the former 'president'.  Yikes!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4  Greg Jones    8 months ago

“Voting for Trump is playing Russian roulette with the country. Voting for Biden is outright national suicide.”

~Bob Barr  

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.1  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Greg Jones @4    8 months ago

“Voting for Trump is playing Russian roulette with the country. Voting for Biden is outright national suicide.”

~Bob Barr  

Always glad to get input from a Libertarian

Thanks for sharing

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5  TᵢG    8 months ago

I think the polls are reflecting dissatisfaction rather than political insight.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @5    8 months ago

Agreed.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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5.2  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  TᵢG @5    8 months ago

I think the polls are reflecting dissatisfaction rather than political insight.

Dissatisfaction with candidates is political insight, maybe not as sophisticated as your political insight, or the political insight of others but political insight none the less.

Thanks for the feedback

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Robert in Ohio @5.2    8 months ago

I do not think that the polls reflect information about the likelihood of the D party forces removing Biden.   

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.1    8 months ago

Super Tuesday is only 17 days away. Gonna be pretty hard to change Dem horses after that.

It's likely that Trump will be on every state ballot. 

It's absolutely boggles the mind that the Dems think Biden can win reelection

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.2    8 months ago

Yes, things get uglier as time progresses.

It's absolutely boggles the mind that the Dems think Biden can win reelection

I do not see why that would cause so much confusion.   He is running against a traitor.   A vindictive, irresponsible, narcissist, demagogue asshole who is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.   An individual who could very well be a convicted felon by inauguration day.

The question is why the GOP would even consider such a scoundrel, much less flock to him.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.3    8 months ago

I know we disagree on certain points but this, right here, I believe says it all.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2.5  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.3    8 months ago

Last one standing perhaps?  This isn't some kind of popularity contest. And all the name-calling and labeling is just juvenile.

The only ones that consider him to be a traitor are blindly partisan progressives Trump is the lesser of two evils.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.6  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.5    8 months ago
Last one standing perhaps? 

No, Greg, there have been many candidates and the GOP has stupidly discarded all of them (last to discard will be Haley).    The question is why they have discarded these candidates in favor of a traitor.

This isn't some kind of popularity contest. 

It is in part a popularity contest much like High school elections.   There are many voters who vote based on name recognition and celebrity.   But I never claimed this was a popularity contest so your comment was non sequitur.

And all the name-calling and labeling is just juvenile.

This is not name-calling, it is stating demonstrably true descriptive attributes.

The only ones that consider him to be a traitor are blindly partisan progressives Trump is the lesser of two evils.

Don't be ridiculous.   Trump is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.   Not recognizing that as a traitor is blind partisanship.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.2.7  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.5    8 months ago
Last one standing perhaps?  This isn't some kind of popularity contest. 

O M G

Really Greg?

It is a popularity contest. Period.

And all the name-calling and labeling is just juvenile.

Then maybe you could start a trend by eliminating that from all of your comments. 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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5.2.8  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  TᵢG @5.2.1    8 months ago

TG

That is likely very true

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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5.2.9  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.2    8 months ago

It's absolutely boggles the mind that the Dems think Biden can win reelection

I totally disagree - I think Trump is the only person the Republicans could have chosen that Biden can beat (only with a large, large turnout in my view)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @5.2.9    8 months ago

I think the democrats could elect a blind pig right now.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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5.2.11  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.10    8 months ago
I think the democrats could elect a blind pig right now.

I see

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.12  Vic Eldred  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.2.11    8 months ago

I say we put it to the ultimate test. Let's run the Dalai Lama as a Republican vs a filthy pig out in the mud as a democrat.

I'll put my money on the pig.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.13  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.10    8 months ago

Isn't that what you're voting for?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.14  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.13    8 months ago

No it was the one you voted for.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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5.2.15  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.12    8 months ago
I'll put my money on the pig.

like Donny during the Stormy...?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.14    8 months ago

5.2.13

Like the former 'president' - every rant is projection and a confession

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  Igknorantzruls @5.2.15    8 months ago

Exactly!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.18  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.16    8 months ago

And with you everything is personal. Can't you discuss topic?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.19  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.18    8 months ago
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.2.20  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.19    8 months ago

Check back to 5.2.13

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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5.2.21  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.10    8 months ago

They are trying their best to do just that

 
 
 
George
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6  George    8 months ago

As of today, Biden doesn’t beat trump in a single poll on 538, and people wonder why the republicans are sticking with trump? And more importantly independents are wondering why democrats are sticking with Biden.

 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1  Hallux  replied to  George @6    8 months ago
As of today, Biden doesn’t beat trump in a single poll on 538

As of today there is not a single accurate poll.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @6.1    8 months ago

gee, I don't know about you, but that poll certainly makes easier my decision of who I should vote for in november. looks like I have a little over 8 months to convert into a bible thumping POS that includes adultery, deceit, sexual assault, tax evasion, fraud, and supporting insurrectionists to my current values and concept of patriotism. /s

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.2  Split Personality  replied to  George @6    8 months ago

And we all know that Hillary wasn't elected either.  

So much for the polls.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.3  Tessylo  replied to  George @6    8 months ago

Nobody wonders why    [removed as derogatory label]     are sticking with the former 'president'.  They're just like it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.4  JohnRussell  replied to  George @6    8 months ago
why the republicans are sticking with trump?

They are sticking with Trump because they have no moral compass.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    8 months ago
48% of voters think it is very or somewhat likely that Biden will be replaced as the Democratic nominee

That’s just wishful thinking, I’m afraid.

We know that because this poll, linked here , reveals that a whopping 86% of respondents think Biden is too old to serve another term. That’s a stunningly high number. You can’t get 86% of people to agree on basic shit like the Earth being round or the moon landings being real. The fact that almost everyone thinks Biden is too old to continue is one of the biggest mandates I have ever seen in presidential politics.

There’s no actual reason, I am aware of, to expect Biden to quit or be replaced. In fact, I think there are very real political reasons why it won’t happen.

Who would replace him? Kamala Harris, as VP, is an obvious choice, but she is wildly unpopular. Nevertheless, I think she would expect to be the pick because of her position. I also think a lot of black voters (or white voters who prioritize the African American demographic) would want a black and/or female alternative to Biden.

If not Harris, who are you going to pick? The in-party fighting for the nomination is something I am sure the party leadership wants to avoid at all costs.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.1  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @7    8 months ago

Beware that silent majority....

Biden could win like Trump did and then we'd have 4 more years of 'they stole the election AGAIN'....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @7.1    8 months ago
Beware that silent majority..

It turns out all they needed was mail-in-ballots.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    8 months ago

Says a mail in voter

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.2    8 months ago

I'm entitled. 


 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.3    8 months ago

And you lost

Bigly

LOL

 
 
 
Thomas
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7.1.5  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.3    8 months ago
I'm entitled. 

Now it all comes so clear: 

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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7.2  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Tacos! @7    8 months ago
If not Harris, who are you going to pick? The in-party fighting for the nomination is something I am sure the party leadership wants to avoid at all costs.

Excellent  point

Is it perhaps time to replace Harris with same Gavin Newsome (or someone else) and designate that person as the heir apparent either in 2028 or before should something happen to Biden?

 
 
 
George
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7.2.1  George  replied to  Robert in Ohio @7.2    8 months ago

How about Liz Cheney? Democrats seem to be in love with her now, and another Cheney as VP? What could possibly go wrong.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  George @7.2.1    8 months ago
What could possibly go wrong.

Biden passes and you have a Republican POTUS again, nothing wrong with that scenario,

but it's like believing Biden and Trump are getting younger and better, it ain't happening.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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7.2.3  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  George @7.2.1    8 months ago

George

Another choice that would make a lt more people look at the ticket with more scrutiny, they might not like it butt they would look closely

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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8  Drakkonis    8 months ago

I wonder that, if Biden is not replaced, who is chosen to run as VP becomes more important than Biden, since I believe there is a high probability that Biden would not complete a second term. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8.1  TᵢG  replied to  Drakkonis @8    8 months ago

Spot on.

 
 
 
GregTx
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8.1.1  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @8.1    8 months ago

Huh?.. Same thing being said for awhile now. So you're a Harris supporter?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @8.1.1    8 months ago
Same thing being said for awhile now. So you're a Harris supporter?

Think about what I wrote (and in turn what Drakk wrote) and try again.   Your  question makes no sense whatsoever.

 
 

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