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Here are all the restrictions Biden's team demanded in their Trump debate offer

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  snuffy  •  6 months ago  •  38 comments

By:   Snuffy

Here are all the restrictions Biden's team demanded in their Trump debate offer
President Biden and former President Trump on Wednesday made their plans to officially debate, but the offer from the Biden team came with several strings attached.

This is good, both parties have agreed to earlier debates. I agree with some of the proposed rules from the Biden campaign, but I think RFK Jr. should be in there also due to his polling.


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


No Audience


Biden's campaign heavily criticized the CPD for making debates "huge spectacles with large audiences" in its letter to the organization.

The new debates between Trump and Biden must take place in a television studio with just the candidates and the moderator present.

"The debates should be conducted for the benefit of the American voters, watching on television and at home – not as entertainment for an in-person audience with raucous or disruptive partisans and donors, who consume valuable debate time with noisy spectacles of approval or jeering.

No RFK Jr. or any other 3rd-party candidate


Biden's campaign says the debate must be one versus one, with no third-party candidates allowed.

Limited news outlets


"It should be hosted by any broadcast organization that hosted a Republican Primary debate in 2016 in which Donald Trump participated, and a Democratic primary debate in 2020 in which President Biden participated – so neither campaign can assert that the sponsoring organization is obviously unacceptable: if both candidates have previously debated on their airwaves, then neither could object to such venue," the campaign wrote.

Candidate mics must mute after time expires


Biden's campaign blasted the CPD for allowing extensive crosstalk and interruptions during the 2020 debates between Trump and Biden.

They now demand that both candidates' microphones be muted once their allotted speaking time expires.




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Snuffy
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1  seeder  Snuffy    6 months ago

I hope they can pull it off and get debates in earlier than normal. This waiting until September for the first debate IMO is stupid. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    6 months ago
The new debates between Trump and Biden must take place in a television studio with just the candidates and the moderator present.

They don't want to have a live audience laugh on the air when Traitor Joe goes on one of his "Stories with Bumbling Biden".  

No RFK Jr. Or Any Other 3rd-Party Candidate

I get that.  Biden is easily confused by the smell of air so having a 3rd party candidate up there will destroy him.

Limited News Outlets

The justification for this one actually makes sense.  

Candidate Mics Must Mute After Time Expires

They want to keep Traitor Joe's incoherent mumbling to a minimum.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    6 months ago

I can't wait to see Biden sitting there drooling, eyes blinking, gasping for air, after his brain shuts down,

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Greg Jones @3    6 months ago

And don't forget the dementia induced anger and yelling when he periodically gets his ass handed to him.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Greg Jones @3    6 months ago

He just has to stand upright while the moderators debate trump,   Even that will be a challenge 

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.1  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2    6 months ago
He just has to stand upright

Not easily done when, as with myself and Biden, one suffers from peripheral neuropathy.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @3.2.1    6 months ago

Or even arthritis

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Greg Jones @3    6 months ago

Isn't that every day that ends in "Y"?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    6 months ago

Can’t have an audience because Biden gets easily distracted.

but here again we have Biden,  the guy who is supposed to be  Mr, norms, breaking a decades old norm of following the bipartisan commission guidelines. 

 
 
 
George
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5  George    6 months ago

Trump should make 3 simple demands of Biden

1. No teleprompters

2. No earwig devices

3. Drug test by independent lab for both participants and the moderator.

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.1  Hallux  replied to  George @5    6 months ago

1 and 2 are not allowed to begin with. As to 3, what drugs do you want to test them for?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hallux @5.1    6 months ago

Adderall for one

 
 
 
George
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5.1.2  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.1    6 months ago

Coke? Maybe it was Joes Bolivian marching powder they found in the Whitehouse.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.1    6 months ago

Chances are the former 'president' would test positive for that one, not President Biden.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.3    6 months ago

Dreamer

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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5.2  Ozzwald  replied to  George @5    6 months ago

Trump should make 3 simple demands of Biden

1. No teleprompters

2. No earwig devices

3. Drug test by independent lab for both participants and the moderator.

Well that's about enough projection that I can handle for the day.

 
 
 
George
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6  George    6 months ago

Throw RFK, West and Jill Stein in there, quit perpetuating the myth that the American people only have 2 choices.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  JohnRussell    6 months ago

Without these rules Trump would act like a maniac like he did in the 2020 debate when he interrupted Biden dozens of times. 

If Trump doesnt agree to an automatic mic cutoff after the allotted time to answer a question he can stay home. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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7.1  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @7    6 months ago
Without these rules Trump would act like a maniac like he did in the 2020 debate when he interrupted Biden dozens of times.

I would also like to see the monitors doing some real time fact checking. 

Some of the lies that have been flying around are so obvious that they should not be allowed to be repeated without being debunked.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @7    6 months ago
mp would act like a maniac like he did in the 2020 debate when he interrupted Biden dozens of times. 

So interrupting your opponent and acting histrionically is what maniacs do, huh?

In 2012,Biden interrupted 82 times during the entire debate,” the RNC’s Joe Pounder tweeted after the debate. CNN’s Gloria Berger said that she would have liked Biden to show less “condescension” and “eye-rolling.”

I doubt Biden would even have the physical ability to interrupt anyone 80 plus times anymore.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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8  Hallux    6 months ago

Biden and Trump may have agreed to debate but the question is will Trump show up? He has a history of not doing so along with his history of complaining about them.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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8.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Hallux @8    6 months ago
Biden and Trump may have agreed to debate but the question is will Trump show up?

Trump's entire debate strategy consists of calling people names and making himself the victim.  Proper moderation would prevent both.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9  Sean Treacy    6 months ago

Poor Biden. He's obviously running scared and was hoping  he could bluff Trump into refusing to debate by refusing  the bipartisan debate committee's terms and  only offering debates when they would have the least impact/viewers.  Too early in election season, on cable and only two debates are demands of a scared man.   He's so desperate to get these out of the way and out of the voters minds that he even proposed one before even the convention.  all the hopes Trump would hold out for a more normal schedule. But Biden is the destroyer of norms, and this is just one more for him to break.

If Biden's handlers had any confidence in his abilities, they'd press for three debates as close to the election as possible.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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10  Sean Treacy    6 months ago

Nate Silver has an idea why they want such an early debate:

By moving the first debate to before the Democratic convention in August, Democrats increase their option value. Here’s what I mean by that. If Biden totally and irrecoverably screws up in the June debate — he’s just obviously no longer ready for prime time — then he can step down and Democrats can  pull the Ezra Klein break-glass-in-case-of-emergency plan  and hold a contested convention. It’s not ideal — that’s an understatement — but it’s much less bad than going into the final months of the campaign certain to lose.

They really have to plan for a Biden implosion.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @10    6 months ago

Trump wont know what to do without lackeys and stooges cheering him on. 

At least , for his sake, there doesnt seem to be any real time fact checking involved.  If there was he would be truly fucked. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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10.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1    6 months ago
.  If there was he would be truly fucked.

Would he repeatedly claim, day after day, that inflation was 9% when he took office? Things like that? 

 
 
 
bugsy
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10.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.1    6 months ago

or that people don't worry about that inflation because they have the cash to cover it.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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10.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sean Treacy @10    6 months ago

They really have to plan for a Biden implosion.

How did their plans work out over Biden’s 2023 immensely popular state of the union address?  Or are you guys still insisting it was as unpopular on earth 1 as it is in your angry little bubble?

 
 
 
GregTx
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10.2.1  GregTx  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @10.2    6 months ago
state of the onion

I believe that I read that they changed ownership again. Perhaps they'll rebound..

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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10.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @10.2    6 months ago
?  Or are you guys still insisting it was as unpopular on earth 1 as it is in your angry little bubble?

Brother, if you think his speech was "immensely popular" you really need to get out of your bubble.

It was the worst polling state of the union this century. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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10.2.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.2.2    6 months ago

It was the worst polling state of the union this century.

[Removed] [.] [] He killed it and left you [removed] [] with nothing to say but “he had to be on Hunter’s drugs!”

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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10.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @10.2.3    6 months ago
removed for context by charger

Here's the reality...

who had a positive view of the speech was actually lower than any such speech CNN has polled in the past quarter-century — the previous low being Donald Trump’s 2018 address (70 percent). And the 35 percent who offered a “very” positive review was effectively tied with Biden’s speech last year (34 percent) for the lowest on record. The next lowest were Biden’s 2022 speech and George W. Bush’s 2007 speech, which each earned “very” positive marks from 41 percent of viewers.”

 
 
 
George
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10.2.5  George  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @10.2.3    6 months ago
“he had to be on Hunter’s drugs!”

Joe Biden is the president of the United States, I’m sure his drugs are way higher quality than his crackhead sons.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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10.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @10.2    6 months ago

Did I miss the Biden implosion during the 2020 debate?

 
 
 
George
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10.2.7  George  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.2.6    6 months ago

You realize Alzheimer's is progressive right?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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10.2.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  George @10.2.7    6 months ago

don't talk to me like I'm stupid

 
 
 
George
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10.2.9  George  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.2.8    6 months ago

I'm not, what he did 4 years ago is meaningless to someone with Alzheimer's. so saying he did fine 4 years ago is meaningless at best.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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11  Sean Treacy    6 months ago

A good indicator of how terrified his handlers are of Biden speaking unscripted is that Biden declared "executive privilege" in an attempt to keep the tapes of his testimony before the Special Counsel private.   That's the interview that the led the special counsel to conclude Biden lacked the mental capacity to be responsible for his actions.  

 
 

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