Here Are 9 More Extremist Flags Spotted At Alito's Home
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Justice Alito is in hot water after the "An Appeal to Heaven" flag was spotted outside his home, as well as an American flag flying upside-down. But these aren't the only extremist flags he has been seen flying: here are nine more radical - practically terrorist - flags our journalists spotted hanging in broad daylight for all to see.
This strange flag with stars and stripes, apparently a well-known symbol of the far right. Scary!
This flag showing some kind of tree - is Alito saying that all non-white peoples must be... uprooted ? Probably.
This flag telling people to live, even though people died on January 6th. Disgusting.
Literally the flag of a rebellion against government.
This flag showing a sport that white people like. Horrifying.
Every life matters? The far-right messaging couldn't be more clear.
This flag supporting chicken sandwiches that hate gay people. What a bigot.
This flag with the emblem of a literal terrorist organization. Appalling.
Reeee!!!!
These images have left all of us here at the Bee shaken. Obviously, this man does not belong in civil society, much less occupying a seat on the highest court in the land. Lock him up!
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The usual Projection, Deflection, Denial + Delusion.
It's endless.
So tiresome..
That comment is boorish, outrageous, egregious, fallacious and bullshitish …. Yeah, that about covers it. Nothing left out …..
I forgot defense of the indefensible. . .
a Phillies flag???
Scarier than Timothy McVeigh!
Keep defending the indefensible. It only makes the point that MAGAs are a self-interested bunch of self-righteous hypocrites who will condemn anybody else-rightly or wrongly, while taking a pass and ignoring every wrong its followers and leaders do.
I posted my comment before I saw yours but you are spot on with the defense of the indefensible.
Democrats have no problems with the ethics of an indicted senator who took gold bars as bribes from a foreign government voting on laws but a justice flying an American flag?
the horror!
Who takes this seriously?
The flag hysteria is just the annual May attack on the court that gets the democratic marks all upset and angry as part of the democrats usual campaign of Court delegitimization. If you can’t see the game being played….
Let's ignore the rest up there (as Menendez has a court case with a jury-which is where he belongs for now anyway) and deal with this 'piece' of condescending bull once and for all:
The game that is being played is this: Donald Trump, like every other cult leader, is using MAGAs 'everything' to get and stay ahead of his troubles and has wrecked the GOP from inside. Souls have been committed and sold to one individual who is a parasite existing in the hearts of men and women whose self-interests, greediness, and essential desire to control the lives of others not interested in them are paramount. If you don't believe me MAGAs, stop pouring money into Donald's woes and see how long Donald, the parasite, hangs with his supporters before turning on them and going after a new host!
At the same time it could be a Donald Trump/MAGAs symbiotic relationship with both groupings (Master/Servants) benefitting. However, Donald has no intention of paying for anything he can persuade his supporters to give him of their own free will and that seems to be 'everything' - including conservative principles.
Seems to be the new mantra of the left. If someone doesn't drink the coolaid it is because they are defending the indefensible. I am sure a citizen of the US needs to defend flying a flag on his or her own property. I have seen plenty of flags of a racist scam organization all over the place.
It's a gross waste of time to discuss "the left" with you; your mind is clearly made up and tightly cemented.
So let's discuss something for which your mind is "OPEN." I wrote this:
Go!
As is yours
What's your point?
My mind is not locked tightly (just ask around NT). I don't overly support anybody and I definitely will write when I find a democrat to be wrong or misguided. I have easy taken the Church and the Holy Land on for their 'ridiculousness' and stupidities that seek to oppress the general public, place religious people in roles they are not fit to hold, and for their commitment of atrocities.
When MAGAs do something good and supportive that helps the general public and not just their lusts. . . I will agree and compliment it.
OK
" I will agree and compliment it."
I don't think anyone has seen that.
I don't think anyone agrees to what Maga is
Honesty will write its own narrative - not just an alternative one.
It's not Reagan. It's Donald: Go!
So MAGA consists of one person. Wow.
I am pretty sure you know better than that. Every so-called, "movement' is considered by its leader. MAGA is no different. Go!
Hilarious,.. "It's not Clinton. It's Biden.GO!"
And it seems anyone that does not scream from the mountaintops that Trump is the root of all evil is labeled a MAGA. I reject that definition.
When somebody consistently opines in support of Donald, the leader of MAGA, and consistently withholds any positives about the other guy, it has the same IMPACT as being MAGA. Therefore, MAGAs. For example, I will be voting for "Joe" in this presidential race. I can be considered a Biden supporter and a democrat. . . at least, until I do not!
Plainly if it walks like a MAGA and it talks like a MAGA and it squawks like a MAGA then that means it is a MAGA...
More plainly, if it walks like a taker and talks like a hater, and whines like a little bitch, then that means it is one of my friends on the left.
Like I said, if someone does not say Trump is the root of all evil some on the left translate that into supporting Trump.
Plainly if it walks like a victim and it talks like a victim and it squawks like a victim then that means it is a LWNJ...
I don't even get to Donald being the "root" of anything. But the state of denial is noted. When you find the time to properly balance Donald's record of lying, cheating, and stealing as routinely as you find time to trash a democrat's record-you might have a provable point. Until then the "judgement' is what it is.
Donald is a permanent state of denial victim. But, of course, MAGAs can't be found to mention that!
Yes, yes it is
Sort of like the LWNJs that insist Joe is a viable alternative but are not able to say why other than he is not Trump.
saying you are voting for Biden, but it doesn't mean you are supporting him is perfectly OK in bizarro leftist world.
I can never understand the logic that gets someone there but here they are.
I didn't realize stating the FACT that Joe is a worthless lying dementia ridden POS means you are MAGA. The goal posts keep moving, I reject them all.
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Speaking of defending the indefensible, another commie leftie in a somewhat high place by banning the US flag in a national park!
Don't know how that fixes MAGA's social and political problem: It only makes the point that MAGAs are a self-interested bunch of self-righteous hypocrites who will condemn anybody else-rightly or wrongly, while taking a pass and ignoring every wrong its followers and leaders do.
How about you deal with the left's social and political problems BLM, Antifa, and those mighty mental midgets supporting Hamas that have destroyed public and private property; killed and assaulted innocent civilians; and generally disrupting people's lives on an every day basis?
And tell Democrats that they are neither the law; nor above it.
See 3.4.1!
See 3.4.2.
Might be worthwhile to take care of your own dysfunctional house before you complain abut the neighbors.
FACT: My 'house' grants people freedom from oppression while MAGAs' house seeks to take them away. Talk about what is.
What oppression is your 'house' granting people freedom from here in good Ole 21st-century America?
Fact: Just because you say FACT does not make it a fact. Try stating facts to support what you are saying and not just using a DNC propaganda bumper sticker.
Fact: MAGAs are 'vagina police.' But decidedly do not police the dicks that cause trouble for girls and women. MAGAs partner with Christian Nationalists.
My wife hasn’t felt that her vagina is policed.
This is not about your wife. . . and I am surprised you volunteer her for this line of 'argument.' Just so you know, I don't denigrate or diminish spouses who are not party to our discussion.
Who’s vagina’s is it about?
Angry ones …..
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Sure does seem to be alot of those nowadays...
I rest my case
Do they have a uniform? I thought is was liberals that wore the pussy hats so it can't be that.
Yep, one wonders how many are angry enough to “be Hamas”
CB disagrees with you.
Only some liberal males have vagina's. Are you calling him a liberal?
I gave you a fact: MAGAs are vagina police. Dicks are MAGAs' weapons of choice! Just ask Donald!
How many vaginas were arrested last year? Are vaginal arrests racially dependent or do the vaginal police see them all as pink?
You could use a primer on the difference between “fact” and “opinion”
It would serve you well …
Like Alito? Note how he threw his wife under the bus, twice.
Again, just because you say it is a fact does not make it so. It would be like me saying Fact: all liberals are antisemite socialists bent on destroying America.
What bus was that?
Exactly what is being taken away?
I try to leave spouses out of discussions, unless s/he speaks up and enter the 'fray.' I listened to News Nation Chris Cuomo (last Friday's show) question Justice Alito's state of mind to leave his wife holding the bag on a decision to post flags, plural, and not own up to his 'duty' to haul the flags down. It's on Alito - he is the justice!
Never heard you say you heard anyone question the state of mind for Democratic Senator Bob Menendez blaming his wife for the gold bars and cash stuffed in shoes and coat pockets.
Do you think it is OK to blame his wife for this or do you blame Menendez alone?
I don't know or specifically care about Senator Menendez or his wife's 'case' or cases, respectively. He is in court where apparently such issues are adjudicated when they reach a certain level. Moreover, I don't believe his wife is a public figure. . . I could be wrong. . .but, it proves the point that I lack interest in 'seeking' her out. Now, if she speaks up and makes her 'voice' party to debate. . . it will be on her what becomes of doing so.
So, his wife should not be allowed to express her opinions because of his duties?
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Seems rather like an oppression of freedom......
So much good that could be accomplished is being squandered by people who try to hold back progress and keep our country 'artificially' textured as conservative and subject others to their oppression/suppression. To be clear, I don't care what conservatives do (and if I was a conservative (I am not!) I would probably be agree like them) in their temples, mosques, churches, or "communities" - but acting so as to takeover the public sphere and forbid liberals ACCESS to freedom, liberty, and an otherwise prosperous life is beyond the pail. It must never be allowed to happen again.
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Look, I know people don't like this, but judges are allowed to have an opinion on public issues. Justice Alito was already considered the most conservative justice on the Court. Do you really think that you didn't know how he was going to vote on cases related to Trump before you saw these flags? There's nothing to be done about any of this.
There is this notion that justice is supposed to be color-blind, so yes- when you catch Justice 'peeking' to see whom justice is being applied to and to what degree it warrants discussion and action. As I am sure you are aware.
Also, it throws out the "justice. . . without fear or favor" slogan if justice is found to be handicapped by leaning on or expressing its own worldview. It will cause confliction in the justice and confusion in citizen populace.
Lastly, I am not clear at all that Justice Alito supports Donald more or less by said flag issues or if he was caught red-handed supporting his personal and private conservative BIAS.
Can you point me to your posts attacking Ginsburg for accepting awards from the democratic party or attacking trump in the run up to the 2016 election?
Once again to be clear, I don't respond to MAGAs' questions, because MAGAs have this peculiar tendency to do little more that question a liberal "to death" and frown and clown when the questioner gives up or doesn't see a need to address said question (it's a game for MAGAs) . . . so make a statement and I will address that.
That's cool how you are able to generalize and label anyone who disagrees with you a MAGA to avoid having a discussion.
It’s a way to avoid accountability.
1. You vote with/for Donald. Donald is MAGA. You support Donald. Therefore, MAGAs.
2. MAGAs were not whining when they were 'having a go' of a 'thousand' questions and mocking liberals for leaving them unanswered as the nonsense that 99.99 percent of them were.
I ask you to make as statement instead of question/s, eve gave you my rationale for asking it; you simply could not bring yourself to do it. Seems confrontation is preferred over compromise.
On this, your perspective is not something for which I have any care and concern.
My comment wasn’t to you.
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[✘] 2. Traitors were not whining they had their proxies in the FBI/CIA/IRS/DOJ openly, and illegally, investigating their political opponents. While giving countless leaks to their sycophants in the press, that were later to proven to be flat out lies. They also conducted numerous investigations into all things Trump, with the same leaks/lies- that left their BS questions unanswered. They are now using the court system to go after their main political opponents to try to keep them off the ballots, and influence the upcoming 2024 elections.
I am asking you to condemn the Democrat Party and leftists for what they have put this country through for the last 8 years and counting. If you can't do that, then you have no room to make claims about anyone else. Including "MAGA".
The hypocrisy is strong here.
I think most judges make some attempt - to consider facts, listen to arguments, and make fair, legal decisions. Or at least they tell themselves that. But judges are also human and they definitely have their biases. Some of those biases are very generalized, like they typically favor corporations, or prosecutors, or veterans, or women, or the poor.
Or they are biased to certain interpretations of law. Think about the extreme viewpoints we see on the Second Amendment, for example. Or maybe they think there’s no such thing as “cruel or unusual punishment.”
Sometimes, they’re just in a certain mood on a certain day and that can affect their decisions. To they extent that they have been fairly transparent about their biases, appointment to - and years of tenure on - the Supreme Court strike me as the ultimate in validation, so why would they ever rein it in, ya know?
Alito is - based on his record - one of the most conservative justices the Court has ever had - and increasingly so, with time. So, the flags he flies and the decisions he is likely to make shouldn’t surprise anyone, unless they are suddenly very progressive.
Hi and thank you for your response. (The chart is a bit much to comprehend in a hurry.) I do understand and accept that justices are human and have their individual 'shortcomings' and political leanings.
What I am getting at here is justices are decidedly expected to be critical thinkers (to follow the facts and law) and not to simply excuse support for their 'own' worldview in decisions that affect the welfare of others with a different worldview. That is, admit and allow the right judgement to take place. . . and then take 'corrective' action to remove any blemish found in the law based on having done so.
For example: Take Justice Thomas. A black conservative justice. . .should have a natural 'affinity' to help those who wear the same skin as he. Indeed, one could argue that along with needing a conservative on the bench, President George H. W. Bush considered 'black awareness' was important too for the court. I can't prove that, but it seems. . . possible and even probable (being that J. Thomas replaced Justice Marshall- a civil rights icon on the court).
Yet, Justice Thomas took his appointment as an occasion to disregard his people (at all cost) and fall all over himself putting forth his larger than life conservative worldview. Justices are allowed to recognize their humanity in making judgements. . .and to envelope such in their opinions (for the good of the country).
After all, at the end of the day. . .Justice Thomas is a black man who happens to be honored to be granted the privilege to serve as a Justice. To accept the job and forget the responsibility to serve more than his own political appetites, aspirations, and worldview is to a word: harmful. Justice Thomas currently is doing great harm to liberals simply put by being only a conservative in his professional opinions. It shows a lack of growth on the Court.
So you see color neutral as inappropriate?
With the law, there is soooo much hair-splitting. Remember how absurd most of the country thought it was for Bill Clinton to say that his answer would depend on “what the meaning of ‘is’ is?” That actually makes sense if you’re a lawyer.
So, even on the SCOTUS, any one of those justices - even employing critical thinking - could be on the razor’s edge of deciding a case one way or the other, but their personal bias will cause them to weigh some small factor in favor of some other. I think that very often, in the law, it’s easy to lose the forest for the trees - or even just one tiny tree.
President Clinton's semantic dance around the meaning of the word "is"
For the record, that equivocating by Bill Clinton is partially why I rejected Al Gore, a democrat, for president later on. I 'felt' the pressure Clinton was under and knew he was being mealy-mouthed (note the smirk playing around his "lawyerly" lips as if remembering something from law school about the word: "Is") in that moment. But, apparently it was enough for plausible deniability and he was not expelled from office. But I held the Commander-in-Chief accountable by voting for the other guy in the 'fall.'
Also, Clinton's situation at the time was demonstrative of why the expression, "Damn all the lawyers" exist, in my opinion. "Only" a trained lawyer would know how to distort and " gray-out " a question using such a 'technique.'
I understand and accept that biases and personal experiences have an important role in human decision-making, but can not allow for WORLDVIEW being the only 'force' compelling the opinion of any justice. Rule of law must be the overarching theme that frames a legal decision —not private worldview. For we are all assigned under rule of law. We come with differing worldviews, plural.
Justices would do well to stay out of the 'trees' -by avoiding the 'graying' of laws. Exception: Laws are made for people: People are not made to support the law! That is, justice should prevail for the 'good' and the true if it is to be of excellent quality. Otherwise, it is simply meandering between 'low-grade,' toxicity, and ultimately will become self-defeating as citizens lose faith in its ability to be just.
Well, the triggered gots lots of hatin to do on bad man. Gotta get the venom out. Lest they choke on their own bile.
But you know the left is going to stomp their feet and cry about it anyway. They'll throw out nonsense in a pathetic attempt to justify their hissy fit and make themselves look like children.
Speaking of flags and on a more serious note, today may be a day to put politics aside and honor men and our flag.
"Earlier today, with the music that we have heard and that of our national anthem, I can’t claim to know the words of all the national anthems in the world, but I don’t know of any other but ends with a question and a challenge as our does. Does that flag still wave over the land of the free and the home of the brave?"
-Ronald Reagan (Memorial Day 1982)
Interesting isn’t it. Our friends on the left hold so much hate in their hearts they can’t even find it in the soulless bodies to even vote up such a timely and appropriate sentiment.
Sad!
I thought about voting it up, but thought it would come off as pandering. And, I KNOW you don't want us to just pander. Moreover, I know you are not VIRTUE SIGNALING, I am sure you wouldn't do so. Not you! /s.
Because it would be WRONG to post a memorial day image just to see who does not CHECK THE BOX on it! Shame on MAGAs!!!!!!
Which just reinforces what i said. So much confusion and hatred in the heart, some just can’t seem to get out of their own way.
Recognizing the concept of this day is the epitome of a non partisan action and yet, some just can’t there.
Sad!
I don't have to vote up an image of Reagan honoring dead soldiers to affirm anything to you are anybody else. Oh, and I voted for Reagan over Carter-I have stated it many times before over the years on NT. Because, I didn't think Carter being a strong religion man and leader had it in him to declare war so as to get the Iranian hostages back. And, the "crisis" was pervasive and so heavily news covered that it was oppressive.
So you've got nothing (on me anyway) but rhetoric.
Now then, I could be petty and suggest that your so-called 'praise' of non-partisanship rings hollow. . . when you reach back to the eighties for a photo of a republican placing a wreath on the 'tomb' and ignore the presidents, former and current, living. Oops, seems I did it anyway.
Lecture someone else.
Too late, already done. And like a Honey badger I don’t really give a shit what anyone thinks of it.
Anyone who can’t get behind the idea of Memorial Day doesn’t deserved the protections the fallen helped secure for them.
Dismissed …..
I support Memorial Day and watched the 'tomb' ceremony and its presidential speech aftewards this morning - Pacific Time. And just for shits and giggles: Reagan was my Commander-in-Chief too. Continue doing 'combat' about nothing. . .it will gain you nothing.
The day I need you to lecture me about memorial day has yet to come.
Missed this one:
Seems very apropos to this article.
That's the one I usually have out.
Sends the required message to those willing to listen.
Plenty of those here in Southern Arizona.
Outstanding!
Well damn, it's obviously time to take to take Alito out and hang him as a traitor. That second flag in the list, there he is proclaiming his allegiance to the City of Gondor. /s
flag of gondor - Google Search
I missed that. Quick someone dig up Tolkien and hang him!
Thread @3.4 locked for slap fighting.
So many triggered from just seeing the first one.
Not sure, but I think that black one with the white tree and stars might be the flag of Gondor....
But then again I'm a Tolkien fan.
You are absolutely correct, it is the flag of Gondor.
Yep. But quick, does anybody know what the seven stars above the white tree mean?
The crown is missing.........
I heard somewhere that the seven stars on the flag are for the 7 stars in the big dipper constellation.
I believe the crown is only there when there is a king in Gondor. As Aragorn died, I don't know if they continued with royal line or not.
Ding ding ding... have a cigar cuz you're correct.
The line continued since Aragorn and Arwen had a son.
It's hilarious that this all started by some knuckle dragging left wing idiot stalking the Justice's wife. In true left wing fashion this stalker doesn't know the meaning of something and made up the idea that the upside down flag and "Appeal to Heaven" flag signified an "insurrection".
And it was three and a half years ago.............for a few days
I would think they would at least try for something of value and current. Or am I setting the standard too high?
Sounds about right...........
What truth was/is being discounted?
And there liberals go again interpreting a false "truth" for their own purposes.
Above, are your sentiments about this flag incident.
1. The "distressed" U.S. flag was on Justice Alito's and his wife's property. It was up for several days AFTER January 6, 2021. Starting on January 17th of the same year.
2. The 'distress' U.S. flag was appropriated by "Stop The Steal" campaign.
3. Mrs. Alito, as it is being reported (New York Times), hanged the "distressed" U.S. flag inverted a month or so BEFORE the statement by her husband, Justice Alito, that she had an altercation with a neighbor (February 15, 2021) which she say led to her putting up the flag in an upside down manner.
4. Therefore, "three and a half years ago" . . .and in the present. . .a fabricated lie is being told by the Alito's about this inverted flag on their property.
Somebody is right to question the LIE! Additionally, to ask that Justice Alito recuse himself because of the inverted flag ethical considerations and his careless 'managing' of the time-line on when this occurred.
And the US flag was also there that day. It matters not what someone "appropriates".
And yep seems like they are lying although remembering an event from 3 1/2 years ago at their age could be misremembered. They are up there in age, just like the gaffing PotUS and his memory of events.
And no, he doesn't need to recuse himself.
The properly mounted U.S. flag is not discussed here, but you desperately need it to be a part of a defense of some kind. That's a fallacy: Moving the goalposts.
And then you go on about some unspecified folks having a "senior moment," which only you know why it is commentary here.
Of course, a fellow conservative don't think a conservative justice should recuse himself for the sake of appearances in this context. Mighty partisan of you!
NOTE: It does not escape my observation that you failed to make commentary about the lie that Justice Alito has unfortunately made public. For it does appear that J. Alito has stepped in it: A justice has been caught in a 'big Lie.'
When are you all going to start bitching about San Francisco and their fascist ways after they were caught flying the 'Appeal to Heaven' flag. You guys are bitching about Alito having it up on his house for a few days, San Francisco has been flying it for 60 years.
Two things could be right simultaneously based on context ! Surely you know this. Anyway.
Context is everything in a narrative and everything in a court of law!
Conservatives?....
Why has the City of San Francisco been signaling it's support for J6 for years? Why are progressives okay with a city government supporting insurrection???? Why isn't the media demanding answers?
Really. And all that effort I put into CONTEXT being the thing! Get comprehension when you read. Discernment is an important tool to have in one's tool box!
Lol. No one thought there was anything wrong with the flag until progressives thought it could be weaponized against Alito as part of their annual spring campaign to delegitimize the Court. . That's why SF removed it. It suddenly became "very bad" the second the Times ran the hit piece last week, and not a second before. The Times story started the Stalinist rewriting of history on wikipedia, on social media etc..
I bet the Times soon goes back into its Jan 2021 archives to rewrite its "symbols of J6" story to include the flag, which it omitted when it actually ran the story in Jan 2021.
I can't tell you what I wish to tell you right this moment. I will console myself by just saying:
BLAH!
That context is actually laughable as the city continued to fly the flag for years. They didn't remove it until the left used it as a weapon against Alito. Had they brought it down within months of Jan 6th then it would be more believable.
So it wasn't a problem until some whiny snowflake losers decided it was a way to go after a Supreme Court Justice.
Priceless.
Next they will go after The American flag because it does not represent their warped values.
Alito has now flown TWO flags that were carried by insurrectionists and election deniers on Jan 6th.
One might be an innocent coincidence. TWO is not.
Thats the way the cookie crumbles . And reality.
The United States' flag was also carried by those same people. So what do you have to say about that little item?
The American flag was also carried by many rioters. Maybe all congress people and senators that fly it should step down
No one without an agenda cares what flag people fly.
Reality.
Alito has explained the details of what happened, which is nothing even close to what you are suggesting.
Thank God we have SCOTUS judges that have no problem putting triggered kooks in their place.
Can you point any posts of yours attacking the City of San Francisco's government for flying a flag that carried by "insurrectionists and election deniers" before the New York Times told you the flag was the worst thing ever last week? Seems like a major city flying that flag for years should have been a major story.
Otherwise, I'm going to have to think this outrage was manufactured for the most partisan of reasons.
There is no other rational explanation.
You can judge it that way if you wish. However, we all can appreciate when a 'prompt' occurs. In this case, the prompt was the EXPLOSION of controversy over a justice's use of the flag implicating him in supporting J6. Now then, as to the order of who/what/when/why/where this all plays out in the heads of S.F. officials. . . that is not something I can speak to. . .and nor can you apparently.
We can only go with what they state about it (without any other information guiding us differently).
Your use of the word, "weapon" is interesting. . . as a liberal, I can tell you for myself, I am not sitting around waiting for something to stir up and debate. I would rather justices stay out of politic controversies and just do their 'duties' and collect their salaries.
That said, you are free to think what you wish. . . from where you are oriented in your political worldview. Perhaps, the city should have removed it before.
Still, it begs the question that S.F. use and removal of the flag is ACTUALLY not related to what is occurring with Justice Alito on the East Coast, as J. Alito is closer to the J6 'region' where this complain (and his understanding) and the "adoption" of this flag took place. Moreover, he is a CONSERVATIVE "justice" and must guard against appearances. . . more than San Franciso's local government.
So lets all put on our tin foil hats and run in circles screaming.
Your comment with its vindictiveness is noted. This is what was stated in the article:
Note, this is 'reporting' from the New York Times about the Justice's motivation/reasoning for flying the flag.
I don't know how the NYT know to report this in that manner, but it is what they wrote!
This is why we are discussing it. San Francisco (removed from the 'problem' area by 3,000 plus miles thereabout) is not the issue here. Nor, is it part of the problem that occurred on the East Coast. Location in this is important.
The point being, the flag itself is not the problem. It is the meaning some pour into the flag (specifically, in extreme conservative politics) that has altered the way the flag is being viewed.
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No its not. Read it again, closer.
You took the bait and conflated two separate statements.
But please, prove me wrong and provide a direct quote of Alito explaining his motivations for flying the flag.
You mistakenly left off Martha-Ann before Alito.
Okay, I read it again. . .closer, and my takeaway is the same. Please elaborate on your perspective and where the "conflation' occurs.
You do realize the whole thread is about San Francisco don't you? The New York Times reporting was not part of the original post either. Seems you are ignoring that which does not forward your narrative.
Also where did the NYT say what his motivation was and how do they know?
The only people who altered the meaning of the flag are the ones that said it meant something different to them and those that want to make it something it isn't as a way to get to a supreme court justice they don't like.
Because it never says what Alito believes the flag means. It says what the New York Times believes it means (at least sometimes, when politically advantageous for Democrats). Pay attention to the subjects in the sentences.
One should not use the word rational when describing the hard core liberal left./s
I can believe that Alito was not aware when his wife first flew the upside down flag, BUT he did nothing to convince her to take it down. As far as him not being aware of either flag being flown at his home, that is preposterous. His properties are not that huge that someone would not immediately notice a large flag flying next to the house.
He's lying.
See 14.1.21.
This 'thread' is not the be all that ends all. So I don't know why you went there. I wrote what I meant at 14.1.17!
That is remarkably dense. There is no other way to say it. You simply choose to not be fair and balanced, but rather choose "alternative" reasons to deny what is in front of us.
In response to my comment about San Francisco.
When you can't refute the comment make nasty comments about the poster.
Justice Alito has been caught in a lie. I hope you caught that 'one' reading through the comments. Hint: J. Alito has thrown his wife under the bus, stating that an incident that occurred (distressed flag flying) on January 17th, 2021 was brought about due to an "altercation" between his wife and a neighbor which is being reported as occurring on February 15th, 2021.
As to the motivation of J. Alito's and his believes, I clearly shared: "New York Times reported. . . ."
We, or rather I, can't discuss J. Alito's motivation and what he believes unless it is stated and shared.
You pay attention to that!
Justice Alito has CLEARLY lied about the cause of the "distressed" flag as the altercation between his wife and neighbor did not occur in January 2021, instead it is being reported to have occurred in February 2021.
(Of course I have shared this tidbit with the 'group' here; the MAGAs here are ignoring it.)
San Francisco should recuse itself from the country. After all, they have been supporting J6 insurrectionists for 4.5 years, so there is no way they can any longer be a part of his country.
Justice Alito has told a big FAT lie and in the process appears to have thrown his wife under the proverbial 'bus'! The distressed flag flying on his property 'incident' was in January 2021; his wife's altercation with her neighbor occurred in February 2021. The dates can't match. Big Lie!
Apply commonsense liberally.
It reminds me of an incident where Secretary of HUD Ben Carson threw his wife under the bus over the exorbitant pay out of HUD Office furniture: It turns out Secretary Carson and his wife had picked out the furniture together. Carson, the Secretary and husband, was caught in a lie.
no, he hasn't and you've screwed up details again. alito's statement was correct and corroborated by the Washington Post IN JANUARY 2021 when it sent a reporter to investigate the flag and then ignored it because it was a nothingburger. You've mistaken one incident, which occurred in February, as the singular event in the dispute. In fact, as the Washington Post documented in JANUARY 2021, the dispute with the neighbor was an ongoing issue.
clearly shared: "New York Times reported. . . ."
Right and now I hope you understand what the Times actually reported. It did not report Alito's views on the flag or what it represents. It specifically reported that Alito did not respond to questions about what it was intended to display. The Times only reported is what some left wingers claim the flag represents.
I'm glad we agree you were mistaken when you claimed the Times reported alito's motivation for flying the flag.
We, or rather I, can't discuss J. Alito's motivation and what he believes unless it is stated and shared
Exactly, which is why it was wrong to try and discuss it.
See 14.1.23 and 14.1.27
No one cares.
I have no idea what you are taking about. And you linked to no sourcing, though you thought it reasonable to mention one!
J. Alito (and you) can't have it both ways. Either the dispute between the neighbor and his wife occurred and the flag was inverted in January or the incident (between Mrs. Alito and her neighbor) occurred in February a period AFTER the inversion of the Flag.
Nice try, but you have clarified nothing, in my opinion!
Scrutinize your comments for superfluous assumptions and condescension and your style of writing won't have to be critiqued.
And there it is! MAGAs care about critiquing liberals 'every move.' And, while they are demanding liberals clean up their liberality and deny themselves, MAGAs are enjoying all the messiness freedoms, liberties, and privileges provides them.
Critique away.
[✘] linked to no sourcing, though you thought it reasonable to mention one
I used the New York Times Report you mentioned.
occurred and the flag was inverted in January or the incident (between Mrs. Alito and her neighbor) occurred in February a period AFTER the inversion of the Flag.
The Washington Post already investigated the inverted flag in January 2021 and Alito's story matched the Post's reporting. You don't seem to grasp the dispute with the neighbor was going on for months, and not just in February. The Post's investigation in January 2021 documented that Ms. Alito flew the flag upside down in January 2021, as a statement against her neighbor.
Even a Supreme Court Justice is entitled to 1st Ammendment rights. Something the liberal left seems bent on denying him. Has nothing to do about lying.
Don't you just love they hypocrisy of it all.
No, no, no...Dontcha see what is going on here?
When a conservative displays the flag, it means they support insurrection.
When a far, far blue city displays it, it means, well, the left does not know because most of them have no idea the origin of it anyway....so it's OK to display.
So it's the ignorance.
And with that they make up their own origin story and ignorant enough to expect everybody to play along.