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Maher: Democrats lost due to ‘anti-common sense agenda’

  

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Via:  robert-in-ohio  •  2 hours ago  •  24 comments

By:   Juliann Ventura

Maher: Democrats lost due to ‘anti-common sense agenda’
“Maybe take the clothes pins off your noses and actually converse with the other half of the country. Stop screaming at people to get with the program and instead make a program worth getting with,” Maher said.

There is no confusing Bill Maher with a person of the conservative leaning, but he makes a strong case for what went wrong with the Harris campaign strategy.

Other prominent Democrats and democratic party supporters have also suggested that the strategy was wrong and that changes are needed


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C omedian and television personality Bill Maher blamed the Democratic party’s “aggressively anti-common sense agenda” for losing The White House, both chambers of Congress and the Supreme Court.

“I will conclude by saying: the reason I’m so mad at the Democrats is because, as a voter, the issues that were important to me were democracy and the environment and now, there’s no one to champion or defend either of them because you, with your aggressively anti-common sense agenda and sh– exclusionary attitude, blew it,” Maher said on his show “Real Time with Bill Maher” Friday night.

“You lost everything: House, Senate, White House, Supreme Court and left us completely unprotected and ready to be violated,” he added.

Maher’s comments come as President-elect Trump is set to return to the White House, both the Senate and House are GOP-controlled, and the Supreme Court has a 6-3 conservative supermajority. Democrats have been   pointing fingers   since their stinging losses following Election Day.

For some, the party’s woes revolve around ineffective messaging on kitchen-table economic issues, like inflation, wages and the accelerating trend of wealth inequality. For others, the trouble stems from the explosive debate over the Israel-Hamas war. For still others, the problems relate to culture war battles, including that over transgender rights.

Maher also hit Democrats by suggesting that they failed to relate to voters.

“The basis for Democratic campaigns has become: ‘we’re the smart people, that we know from the get-go, no need to look into that,'” Maher said.

“Maybe take the clothes pins off your noses and actually converse with the other half of the country. Stop screaming at people to get with the program and instead make a program worth getting with,” Maher said.


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Robert in Ohio
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1  seeder  Robert in Ohio    2 hours ago

Opinion by Jeremy Farley (USA Today) offers

8 reasons why Democrats lost the 2024 election

1. Because the Democratic Party has drifted too far left for America

2. Because Democrats waited too long to address Biden’s cognitive decline

3. Because legacy media and celebrities no longer hold sway

4. Because of their vice presidential picks

5. Because Democrats seem more concerned with Ukraine than Carolina

6. Because this isn’t George Bush’s Republican Party anymore

7. Because no one cares about January 6

8. Because Democrats have lost working men

Read her entire article at 

8 reasons why Democrats lost the 2024 election

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @1    2 hours ago

No disrespect to Mr Farley, but he is an evangelical pastor from a Republican area of North Carolina and his 8 reasons have no more weight of truth than any other random American. 

He may be right that voters "dont care" about "Jan 6th" but that doesnt say something good about America, it says something terrible about America. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    an hour ago
an evangelical pastor from a Republican area of North Carolina

aka the lowest hanging fruit ...

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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2  seeder  Robert in Ohio    2 hours ago

I look forward to your critiques of Bill Maher's thoughts on the 2024 election strategy as well as the reasons for the loss presented by Mr. Farley

I personally think the factors noted by both likely played a role but that it was more the combination of all the aspects of the strategy mentioned by both (plus other items I am sure) that led to the losses across the board by the Democrats.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    2 hours ago

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devangelical
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2.1.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    an hour ago
Just say you are a Trump supporter and put an end to the last remaining shreds of question about that.

maybe next election, that hair grows slower ...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Robert in Ohio @2    2 hours ago
I look forward to your critiques of Bill Maher's thoughts on the 2024 election strategy as well as the reasons for the loss presented by Mr. Farley

I couldnt care less about Mr Farleys analysis of the election. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    2 hours ago

Same here.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3  Tessylo    2 hours ago

I don't care for Bill Maher.  He can go fuck himself.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    2 hours ago

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JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    2 hours ago

The Republicans nominated and voted for the worst person to ever run for president of the United States from a major party.  The idea that the Democrats are by default a worse option than Trump is completely absurd, and a conclusion reached through the brainwashing of tens of millions of Americans by right wing media and social media. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    an hour ago

epublicans nominated and voted for the worst person to ever run for president of the United States from a major party.

And he won.. because Democrats are out of their minds and can't even say what a women is. 

d through the brainwashing of tens of millions of Americans by right wing media and social media

Lol. Let's talk about brainwashing and acting like a cult. 

Who is shaving their heads, threatening to withhold sex and  refusing to have children over an election?

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.1.2  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.1    an hour ago

Let's talk about brainwashing and acting like a cult. 

Who is shaving their heads, threatening to withhold sex and  refusing to have children over an election?

jrSmiley_123_smiley_image.gif Is that what they do in your cult?  I like my cult much better: No body-shaming or altering, but I am the only individual in it, so far. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Realistically, though, it can be said that the Republican Party has been co-opted by lying blowhards who do not even care if they are called on their obviously untrue statements because they just keep coming back and repeating them over and over. But hey, you won, so it looks like someone believes the bullshit. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thomas @4.1.2    28 minutes ago
epublican Party has been co-opted by lying blowhards who do not even care if they are called on their obviously untrue statements

I can't say I'm even surprised by the copium at this point.  The Democrats complete lack of self awareness shows no signs of changing.  It's always "messaging" when they lose and they lash out at any Democrats who dare go any deeper than that surface message. Doesn't matter how much they outspend and control the narratives of the MSM, it's just a "messaging problem"

Never mind inflation. Never mind masses immigrants bankrupting cities. Never mind their cultural extremism, rampant lying (Biden's fine!) and racialist obsessions. It's all just messaging and the proper messaging would make voters ignore reality.

Democrats managed to lose to a candidate with negative favorability.  That's not a "messaging" problem. That's a "you've become so extreme and screwed things up so badly voters chose someone they don't like" problem. 

All Democrats had to do to win was be normal.  Not gaslit people about the border (years of it's not a crisis!) and have Biden take the actions he took in 2021 instead of 2024.  Admitted inflation was a long term issue, not transient, and not engaged in a spending spree that made it worse.  Not gaslit people about Biden's health. Said "men shouldn't be playing in women's sports" and opposed using taxpayer dollars to fund sex change operations for illegal aliens.  Easy stuff supported by the vast majority of people. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    2 hours ago

"center right'"

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devangelical
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4.3  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    an hour ago
the Republican Party has essentially maintained its position as the  “ center right” over the last twenty five years

... as demonstrated in the last eight years. /s

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    an hour ago

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Thomas
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5  Thomas    an hour ago

The cartoon tells why the Democrats lost the election, but not in the way that one might would think, looking at it from afar. All of the choices given are Republican and right-leaning pundits talking points. If you  move in and read the caption, one sees the real reason; The Democrats got defined by the Reight and failed to define themselves.

Looking to place blame for this defining is like trying to hold a gallon of air in your hands. The Republicans were louder, more brash, less caring, bigger (by-far) liars, who didn't give a fuck for anybody's feelings. This attitude was presented as "better" than Democratic (take your pick off the wheel of shame). whomever gets to do the defining in an election is usually the winner. It does not matter who is right.

This election was enough to make Helen weep.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1  devangelical  replied to  Thomas @5    an hour ago

gee, protecting the constitution and our representative democracy is an anti-common sense agenda. who knew ...

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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5.2  seeder  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Thomas @5    an hour ago

The Democrats got defined by the Right and failed to define them.

Thomas

Absolutely correct!

 
 
 
Thomas
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5.2.1  Thomas  replied to  Robert in Ohio @5.2    an hour ago
Absolutely correct!

As I said, it doesn't matter who is correct (right).

So democrats need to communicate the truth better. Let us all hope that the methods and means of communication and election remain intact long enough to counteract the incoming scourge of brash mediocrity and profligate anti-regulation that less than a third of the people of voting age wanted.  (And a lot of them didn't even know that is what they were voting for.)

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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6  seeder  Robert in Ohio    an hour ago

Addressing the points made by the authors gathering then simply attacking them personally would be more on point

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7  Sean Treacy    46 minutes ago

The Republican Party has essentially maintained its position as the  “ center right” over the last twenty five years while the Democratic Party became the extreme left. The cultural extremism of the left alienated so many of its traditional voters that their economic pandering and fear mongering couldn’t overcome it. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
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8  Gazoo    9 minutes ago

1) todays dems are not even close to the same party i have voted for in the past, not even close.

2) absolutely, i noticed he wasn’t all there during the ‘20 debates.

3) never did and never will.

4) the last two vp picks were terrible. Harris ran a chaotic campaign in 2020 and received 0, zero, delegates before being the first top tier candidate to drop out. Walz, total clown. Mn is one of the most poorly run states in the nation. Walz is anything but moderate. 

5) it seems that way. We must protect ukraines border and sovereignty but screw our own. They also gave me the impression that they care more about illegals than they do about Americans. They also gave me the impression they care more about criminals and sexual freaks than they do about law abiding citizens.

6) absolutely, sometimes i voted for the old republican party sometimes but felt most of their candidates didn't care about the blue collar working class

7) true. The j6 committee was a hardcore ultra partisan group that had been trying to get trump since before he even took office.

8) absolutely. All of my blue collar friends and most of my coworkers voted for trump. 

i’d say jeremy farley is pretty spot on. 

 
 

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