Securing the border
Link to quote: Illegal migrants rush to cross border before Trump takes office and institutes crack down
The last time Donald Trump was President, the US had a "zero-tolerance" policy that allowed authorities to deport adults who crossed the border illegally. In January 2019, the Trump administration implemented a policy - officially known as Migrant Protection Protocols, which forced asylum seekers to wait in Mexico for their US immigration hearings. And during the pandemic the Trump administration invoked Title 42, a statute meant as a public health measure. The policy allowed US authorities to swiftly expel migrants - including asylum seekers at the border. All of these measures helped to keep the US border relatively secure.
When Joe Biden became president he dismantled all of those policies and acted as a radical leftists dream president. Not only did he welcome the migrants during the democrat primary:
"As a candidate, Joe Biden said that if he were elected president, migrants should "immediately surge to the border." The migrants took him up on it. "What I would do as president is several more things," Biden said at the first Democratic primary debate for the 2020 election. "I would in fact make sure that there is… We immediately surge to the border, all those people who are seeking asylum."
FLASHBACK: Biden Tells Migrants To 'Surge to the Border'
It took a Presidential election for Joe Biden to try and walk some of it back. In the 3 years that Biden had the southern border wide open, it is estimated that between 10 million and maybe as many as 20 million entered the US illegally. We know little to nothing of these people. Some are criminals, some are terrorists, and some are bringing drugs and human trafficking. During those 3 years the US underwent a Fentanyl crisis. Today many democrat governors have vowed to try and prevent the federal government from deporting the migrants. I doubt we will hear any more BS arguments about the border being secure or that Joe tried to secure it at the last minute, but Trump stopped him. Any reasonable person can see that democrats wanted these people in the country and the motives are obvious. First, they want amnesty and voting rights for these people who are sure to repay the democrats with their votes. Second, they want to change the demographics of the country they don't particularly like.
The real Border Czar:
President-elect Trump has chosen former ICE Director Thomas Homan to act as a real border czar, not the farce that was Kamala Harris.
Former Acting Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Thomas Homan speaks during the third day of the 2024 Republican National Convention at the Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on July 17, 2024. (ANDREW CABALLERO-REYNOLDS/AFP via Getty Images)
Tom Holman is dedicated to securing the border and deporting the illegal migrants that Biden invited in, starting with the criminals and gradually working towards those who simply violated our immigration laws. If that was not enough, Trump, in a 4 a.m. Truth Social post, confirmed that he would declare a national emergency and use the US military to help deport undocumented immigrants en masse. His team also plans to open holding camps for migrants and to try to end birthright citizenship. As for Mexico, they may once again be faced with a choice between reinstating the "Remain-in-Mexico" policy or forfeiting trade with the US.
The American people have spoken.
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Stories about Matt Gaetz are leaking out throughout the media, as I predicted.
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The slandering of a New York institution by those who seek to play victim.
N EW YORK — Whoopi Goldberg was publicly accused of defamation on Friday, two days after “The View” co-host suggested a bakery didn’t want to make her birthday desserts due to her left-leaning political views.
Goldberg celebrated her 69th birthday on “The View” this week, where she told viewers her order for several dozen Charlotte Russe cakes was initially refused. Though Goldberg didn’t identify the bakery in question, many viewers quickly figured out she was referring to Holtermann’s Bakery on Staten Island, thanks to the sweet treat’s distinct packaging.
On Thursday, owner Jill Holtermann — whose family operates the 146-year-old bakery in Great Kills — confirmed she was the person Goldberg called out. She denied refusing the preorder because of politics , and instead said she rejected it due to equipment issues.
At a press conference on Friday , Holtermann was joined by Staten Island Borough President Vito Fossella , who alleged Goldberg “besmirched and defamed” Holtermann’s Bakery, causing an “unwarranted controversy.” The Republican demanded she issue a public apology for “making stuff up to suit [her] needs.”
According to Goldberg, she was told the bakery couldn’t honor her 50-unit order because of trouble with their boiler. But when aides were sent to pick up the cakes in person two weeks later, they had no problem, leading Goldberg to believe the bakery “did not like my politics.”
Fossella backed Holtermann’s claim that the bake shop didn’t take Goldberg’s preorder because they weren’t sure when the kitchen would be up and running effectively. The bakery’s signature cakes eventually did get made and were enjoyed by the co-hosts of “The View” at the end of Wednesday’s episode.
Staten Island Councilman David Carr also took to the mic at the press conference, saying they were gathered “to send a message to the person who decided she was too important for a boiler breakdown.”
“She had to have her pastries and if it wasn’t coming to her, it must have been someone else’s fault. It must have been a directed insult to her,” he said.
He later slammed the co-hosts of “The View” in a post on Facebook.
“Shame on the members of ‘The View’ for slandering a Staten Island institution with an exceptional reputation spanning over a century,” he wrote. “I’m proud to defend Holtermann’s Bakery and any Staten Island business from baseless political accusations.”
Holtermann on Friday thanked all those who showed their support at the press conference, as well as those who reached out after word spread that she and her team were the alleged culprits in the morning show drama.
Staten Island officials accuse Whoopi Goldberg of defaming Holtermann’s Bakery
yawn
if you would like to send me a dollar for every time a right wing "personality" has besmirched someone I would take a nice vacation .
What was the verdict for Giuliani????
Why not go after every cent Goldberg has?
I dont know, maybe because she didnt try to overthrow the government by attacking the process of our elections ?
I think you do.
maybe because she didnt try to overthrow the government by attacking the process of our elections ?
Questioning what happened in Fulton County during the 2020 chaotic election is far from an attack on "our election process." It was ruled as slander. That clearly fits what Goldberg did.
Giuliani is an unindicted co-conspirator in the Trump election interference case, you know, the one you know nothing about.
Giuliani admitted to the court that he had lied about the two women. You are not going to win on the facts so why not call it a day.
Do you remember what you once told us about something unproven may still be true?
Perhaps you can put all of us at ease and explain why on election night 2020, Fulton County suddenly stopped the vote count and told all observers and voters to leave the polling place because of a burst water main pipe, which turned out to only be a backed-up toilet?
We never got a reasonable explanation for that.
It is hopeless. Your kinds of arguments are a product of vast far right media disinformation about the election.
apnews.com /article/fact-check-trump-indictment-fulton-suitcases-pipe-654281257169
Misinfo about 'suitcases' of ballots and a burst pipe in 2020 return after Trump's Georgia indictment
By MELISSA GOLDIN6-7 minutes 8/17/2023
CLAIM: On election night in 2020, a burst water pipe at a ballot processing site in Georgia’s Fulton County allowed workers to steal the election from former President Donald Trump.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. A water leak briefly delayed ballot processing in Atlanta’s State Farm Arena early that morning. Unrelated surveillance footage from the late evening showed workers removing ballot containers from under a table after confusion arose about when work was ending for the night. This was the subject of false claims that it depicted workers pulling out “suitcases” of illicit votes, but investigators later determined it was part of normal ballot processing and there was no evidence of improper ballots.
THE FACTS: In the wake of Trump and 18 of his allies being indicted in Georgia on Monday over their efforts to overturn the former president’s 2020 election loss, years-old false claims about ballot counting in the state are recirculating on social media.
The posts falsely link a brief delay in the count at State Farm Arena — caused by an issue with water pipes — to a long-debunked claim that “suitcases filled with ballots” were hidden under a cloth-covered table and then illicitly tallied without supervision after workers were told to leave.
One Instagram post that included the surveillance footage stated: “Never forget. Trump was leading Georgia by 160,000 votes, then a ‘water pipe burst’ and 4 suitcases came out…” It had received more than 102,000 likes as of Thursday.
Another Instagram post claimed that after the pipe burst, “video would later show multiple people inside the arena continuing to count votes unsupervised,” then suggested that this event robbed Trump of his lead in the race.
But these claims are falsely conflating two incidents that happened hours apart, neither of which are evidence of fraud.
Around 6 a.m. on Election Day — Nov. 3, 2020 — a “plumbing incident” briefly delayed the processing of Fulton County absentee ballots at State Farm Arena, the county tweeted at the time. Work resumed after two hours and no ballots or equipment was damaged. The incident was first reported as a burst pipe, but officials later said the water leak was due to a faulty urinal.
Separately, the posts’ mentions of “suitcases” and “unsupervised” vote-counting refer to a false narrative about surveillance footage of the facility much later that day, starting about 14 hours after the water issue was resolved.
In reality, the footage showed some confusion that arose after election workers mistakenly thought they were done for the evening, but nothing illicit, as the AP reported in 2020.
Gabriel Sterling, a top elections official in the Georgia secretary of state’s office, told the AP in December of that year that some workers, as well as members of the media and Republican observers, started leaving the facility. However, no one told observers they had to leave, then-Fulton County Elections Director Richard Barron said during a public meeting around the same time.
Other workers began packing up, Sterling said. This involved putting ballots that had been opened and flattened for scanning into boxes and under a table. Barron said he found out around 10:30 p.m. He then called the supervisor on site and instructed the team to continue scanning ballots that had already been prepared. They pulled the same boxes back out — regular ballot containers on wheels, not suitcases — and resumed working, according to Sterling.
It’s true that there was a brief period where observers were not present, Barron said at the public meeting, however this is not a breach of protocol. Georgia law permits observers to stay in the room the whole time, but doesn’t require them to be there for counting to take place.
Regardless, after that short period, an independent state election board monitor arrived to oversee the scanning at 11:52 p.m., according to Barron. A state investigator arrived at 12:15 a.m. Both individuals remained at the facility until the count concluded for the night.
The secretary of state’s office said it was aware of the late-night counting and after reviewing the entirety of the surveillance footage, investigators later determined that it showed “normal ballot processing,” Sterling tweeted in December 2020.
A lawsuit Trump filed against Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger that same month, in an effort to overturn the state’s election results, used the surveillance footage — and the aforementioned false narrative — as evidence of alleged fraud. The suit was dismissed by the Supreme Court of Georgia less than two weeks later after being rejected by a lower court for administrative errors.
Trump lost Georgia to President Joe Biden by 11,779 votes, according to Federal Election Commission data. Georgia officials have said on numerous occasions that the state’s count was accurate and that there was nowhere near enough fraud to put the results in question.
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This is part of AP’s effort to address widely shared misinformation, including work with outside companies and organizations to add factual context to misleading content that is circulating online. Learn more about fact-checking at AP.
Yes you are.
Your kinds of arguments are a product of vast far right media disinformation about the election.
So you post something I never said?
I asked you to explain why the vote count was stopped in Fulton County. While you are at it maybe you can also explain why 4 democrat counties in PA are currently defying state election law and 2 court rulings?
That is why people question what they are seeing.
Yes John, that required explanation and all you can do is hide behind MELISSA GOLDIN
I literally just posted two fact checks that explain what happened concerning the "burst pipes".
The ridiculous gaslighting as seen on this column every day needs to stop.
But there weren't burst pipes!!!!
A backed-up urinal does not require a stopping of voting and btw your fact check involves a claim THAT WORKERS STOLE THE ELECTION.
I never claimed that. I asked you to explain how that thing looked to people and you have no answer.
No, but they decided that water on the floor did. The claim from Trumpland was that the delay in the counting because of the water was a ruse to allow people to be sent home and the cheating to commence.
None of that is true. Fact checks completely disprove your allegation. The boxes that were taken out from under the table after people went home were perfectly normal procedure.
Giuliani lied about that, and other things, and admitted in court that he had lied .
Like I said, this gaslighting of NT has to stop.
It must have been really backed up if it flooded the arena. How much water came out of that toilet?
The claim from Trumpland was that the delay in the counting because of the water was a ruse to allow people to be sent home and the cheating to commence.
I'm not interested in unsubstantiated claims. I'm only interested in the explanation for stopping the vote count over a backed up toilet.
Like I said, this gaslighting of NT has to stop.
Nobody is gaslighting and nobody is claiming a fix was in.
The point John is that incidents like that raise questions, and the people have a right to ask questions about something that made as little sense as that did.
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It's amazing how many multi-millionaire Democrats are disadvantaged. No wonder the American Dream is dead.
Stuff you may not know:
A Texas father was moved to tears after his son surprised him with the car of his dreams — a 1967 Chevrolet Camaro almost identical to the one he had to sell over 40 years ago to pay for his kids’ diapers.
Jared Guynes (left) surprised his dad Earl Guynes with the dream car that he had to sell over 40 years earlier. Facebook/Jared Guynes
Earl Guynes was only 22 years old when he was working in automotive parts and had the opportunity to purchase the iconic car from one of his employees, he told NBC 10 Boston.
Noem, Thomas can get Hegseth to recall overseas military units from NATO countries and then they can seize all the private land along the border and set up outdoor detention centers like Gitmo. It will be fantastic on the news and everyone will get the word the US is closed to poor brown people.
So as not to spike prices in markets illegals worked in we can force the poor US citizens to do those jobs. We'll have to cut minimum wage, but that's not a problem for MAGA. Any judges that try to block these initiatives should be immediately investigated by Gaetz and removed from the bench too.
America will be great again...again.
Did you miss the part about entering the country LEGALLY?
Kind of racist don't you think?
since when does maga care about the "rule of law"?
The one law that binds all other laws together is that laws don't apply to MAGA.
Ask them.
Tell us about how the economy is great, yet we want to know how Trump will fix it.
Isn't that the grand inconsistency that the lefties are promoting?
we're witnessing buyer's remorse reshape the stock market now, since trump has claimed responsibility for it as of 11/5 ...
You were a big supporter of that premise, so maybe you can explain why Trump has to bother doing anything if the Biden economy is great.
trump's hare-brained ideas won't do anything positive for the economy, he'll blame it's downturn on democrats, and then gloat while his maga sycophants lap up his bullshit excuses. fortunately, his supporters will be among the first victims.
The downturn is 100% Democrats fault as will be any recession that happens.
Biden's economy is not creating nearly enough jobs, unemployment and inflation are ticking up, and the market is going down.
Democrats tried to control the economy; and they wrecked it.
"But Trruuummmmppppp!!!!!!" he isn't even in office yet and the pathetic cries from leftists and Democrats are in full swing.
It's like a 2016 de ja vu all over again.
So, anywhere from 10 to 20 million unvetted, mostly unskilled and without financial means "poor brown people" who aren't eligible for asylum isn't enough for left wing bleeding heart? The burden placed upon Hispanic US citizens and the rest of American taxpayers for their housing, food, healthcare, transportation, and their kids schooling is tremendous.
Perhaps was one of main reasons the democrats got their butts whipped.
You've got it all wrong, Greg. I'm on board! I don't want 'those people' living next to me either. Best we send them back, but first make examples out of them so others don't come later.
I'm not sure it wasn't their galactic levels of misplaced condescension.
Ahhhh memories.........."deplorables", "garbage"
The list is miles long.
Seriously. It's deranged.
So, you say it is "racist" to enforce immigration law & American sovereignty.
Next
No, Vic. I'm converted. I'm on your side now. We shouldn't be mixing cultures anymore. I don't want to eat their food, or listen to them speak non-English or even see them begging on the street corners anymore.
And you are slandering us with that.
People don't get to just walk into another country. They have even been given taxpayer money by democrat politicians.
Not at all. I'm agreeing with you. They are vermin as our President Elect has stated multiple times. Violent, drug dealing felons and crazies.
And now we can show the Dems how the Trump/Heritage Foundation plan works better.
oh look, their savior did come back, but why is he calling himself trump now? /s
You're trying to be cute and it isn't working.
Still waiting on the great contradiction.
here's one -
I'm confused... you don't think Trump's plan will work?
No link & no relevance.
And no sale.
Deporting criminals?
Yes.
Great, let's show the world what America can do!
That would be racist. Best to let the gangs run the cities.
Your lack of confidence in the plan is noted.
gee, I sure hope trump's bags are packed ...
What was he convicted of?
I'm a bleeding heart who has outgrown America, I guess.
Then you are in the minority we have a new mandate.
And they should get a government stipend too.
I just love people!
Nope. Not my money. With a new promised tax cut and reduction in IRS agents I probably won't pay taxes anyway.
Halfway to being an illegal. Now just demand a free room in a hotel.
First, we have to get them amnesty and the right to vote.
Then everything will fall into place.
Not with the new boss. No amnesty, no vote. Do not pass go, go directly to jail for processing back to their home of origin - or Mexico - whichever is cheaper.
Or I could just set up another S Corp and offset my earnings with my corporate losses. That's what my House Rep does.
Homan reminds me of ‘’Bull Connor’’.
How so?
more like bullshit con ...
It was just a smear & run.
I never run from my comments, Vic you should know that my now. He is big as in overweight with a mouth the size or RI and bluster of a typical bully. My stance should be clear to you with that comment.
He may be overweight and loud, but he is exactly what is needed.
And Mayorkas reminds me of somebody: Benedict Arnold.
He is actually what we need? Why is that, Vic?
Your realize what Benedict Arnold did, don’t you, Vic? I don’t believe that Mayorkas is a traitor as much as you want to believe that.
Do you think that Trumps deport everyone including legal is going to work, if you look at history it has always been a failure in the long term, but it was always been the fall back position for the US when they things are going right for them, blame the immigrants, both legal and illegal. The tried and true method of the US.
In Trumps first term he made the same promise and deported less than Obama or Biden, I believe it was around 350,000 the courts shut down much so we’ll see this time around. As a word of warning be sure that your family has their papers with them at all times you wouldn’t want to see them sent back to some shithole country.
I wonder how many legal citizens and ones with green cards will be deported this time around.
To enforce the law.
Do you think that Trumps deport everyone including legal
Do you know the difference between legal and illegal?
In Trumps first term he made the same promise and deported
He made a promise to build a wall, and democrats fought it all the way.
Deporting legal or green card holders is against the law,
I know the difference between legal and illegal, it seems that your fearless leader, Trump doesn’t since he has said he will deport those legeally in the US. You might want to explain legal and illegal to him if you understand it.
Trump building a wall had nothing to do with my comments, that is surely a deflection on your part.
Why would anyone do that?
Legal Hatian visa holders are eating the dogs and cats in Ohio and that's just plain wrong. They HAVE to go.
What were the circumstances for the Haitian entry into the US?
Haitians are not just arriving in Springfield, Ohio, but also in small rural towns nationwide as a result of several Biden-Harris administration policies.
Since fiscal 2021, more than 485,000 Haitian illegal border crossers, a record, have been reported by U.S. Customs and Border Protection. The overwhelming majority were reported this fiscal year, nearly 216,000, compared to 48,727 in fiscal 2021.
Since fiscal 2021 through August, the majority have been apprehended at the southwest border of nearly 262,000, followed by nearly 221,000 nationwide and nearly 2,300 at the northern border, according to the data.
Additionally, since July, 205,000 Haitians have been released through the CHNV parole program, according to CBP data . Of the more than 765,000 illegal foreign nationals released into the country through the CBP One app, the top nationality is Haitian. Through these programs, U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas also extended Temporary Permanent Status to them and granted work authorization.
All of these programs are illegal, state attorneys general who've sued to stop them, argue. U.S. House Republicans also cited them as among the many illegal actions Mayorkas caused them to impeach him. Mayorkas has since only expanded the programs and extended TPS .
When responding to the Haitian influx, local officials claim Haitians are there to work and are contributing to society despite claims by residents to the contrary.
The city of Springfield claims a "surge in our population over the last several years, primarily due to an influx of legal immigrants," suggesting that Springfield "is an appealing place for many reasons including lower cost of living and available work."
Springfield Mayor Bob Rue has said "my hands are tied in many ways" about the influx of Haitians, pointing to a designation they were given by the Biden-Harris administration. The TPS program "came from the White House and is a Homeland Security policy, " he said at a recent city commission meeting .
It's not just Springfield, Haitians being flown to small towns nationwide
All the more reason to revoke their legal status and send them all home. We don't need visa workers, we probably have plenty of Americans sitting on their asses that can do that work.
Exactly where did he say that....quote?
nah, picking fruits and vegetables would probably be considered skilled labor for most trump supporters.
Perhaps but that would be plenty more skilled than all the left wing MAEW kooks living in a tent down by the river or eating Spaghetti O’s in grandmas basement.
Because they are ignorant and really don’t care about the law. You should ask Trump and Homan who back peddled today on his prior statement.
Exactly, they ate Fido.
Mmmmm, spa-ghettos
You do realize that it’s not just Haitians that are covered by TPS don’t you, Vic?
In Trumps first term he tried to deport TPS immigrants and the courts for the most part shot him down.
Trump thinks TPS stands for Toilet Paper Splattered, but, maybe they are temporarily protected, but Trump and his Motely Crue": will be looking hard to find a loop whole kit and Kaboodle out the door and back to Mexico, he will wish for they to ship,hopefully gthey can navigate their way arounf thagt massive wall Mexico did pay fore, golf time in tho golf of Mexico
When did the Courts prevent Trump from deporting TPS holders whose extensions had expired?
Stated Claim: In Trumps first term he tried to deport TPS immigrants and the courts for the most part shot him down.
No Google fact-check information was found for claim: 'In Trumps first term he tried to deport TPS immigrants and the courts for the most part shot him down.'
Try expressing the claim in terms of a few strong keywords and avoid full sentences.
You cherry-pick from the fact-checker??? You skipped all the PolitiFact links and just point out that Google Fact Checker did not match on those specific words.
This, from PolitiFact, showed on your query too:
Just as Kavika noted @3.4.6 ☞
For future reference, when a fact-checker says it did not find fact-checking, it is saying it did not match the specific words you used to express the claim. It is not to be taken to mean that no fact-checking exists.
And Google Fact-Checker not getting a hit is to be expected since it works mostly on keywords.
I never claimed that courts prevented Trump from deporting those whose extensions had expired….Pay attention.
LMAO, see comment 3.4.23
Curious, what does that have to do with the claim made "In Trumps first term he tried to deport TPS immigrants and the courts for the most part shot him down."
Please elaborate................
That has absolutely zero to do with TPS.
MY bad for thinking you were making a rational argument and not just throwing words together .
Just pay attention. I directly referenced Kavika's comment @3.4.6 as that which I was tying to the fact-check results.
You put your foot in your mouth once again, Sean. I made no mention of it and here you are trying to remove your foot from your mouth with a lame ass comment…LMAO too funny.
Personal attacks. Nice. Deflect away.
Your former link did NOT illustrate that............
Just following your lead, Sean. You post personal attack so often that you don’t even realize that you just did it in your comment 3.4.28
LMAO
Oh, BTW since I’m having problems copy and pasting with my new I pad you can refer to Newsweek article of 11/16/ outlining his quoted words on deporting legal TPS immigrants. Trump critized in his own backward re immigrants.
Your welcome.
Do you understand now?
Court rules Trump can end temporary protected status for immigrant families
I don't opine on posts that I feel are not worthy to, well, opine on.
There was no cherry picking. 3.4.22 is EXACTLY what the new function states. You have an issue with that then fix the new function.
Do you understand your first link did nothing to prove shit. In fact, your article was from 2018. The relevant one stands at 3.4.36
As of today, TPS is in effect.
Kavika referred to Trump's efforts in his first term.
The title for your link is deceiving. It did not end TPS, it:
Pay attention. Calling an argument irrational is not a personal attack.
’m having problems copy and pasting with my new I pad you can refer to Newsweek article of 11/16/ outlining his quoted words on deporting lega
I have no idea what that has do with your claim about Court rulings. George actually did the work and disproved it though. you should thank him for enlightening you.
Where did he claim it ended TPS? It claimed he could deport them TPS or no TPS.
Already explained. Note that Trump's first term was the focus.
Read the words in his link. Good grief man, this is ridiculous.
Trump tried to end TPS for a large group of people in his first term.
TPS exists today.
Do you disagree with these facts?
Thank goodness you don’t, buggy that relieves me of having to either ignore you or respond to your nonsensical comments.
Thanks a million.
Sorrry Sean, but you seem to be mistaken a lot lately, even trying to drag George down the rabbit hole with you. Geo was mistaken.
Too bad you have no idea what the article states. Trump states that he will deport even legal TPS immigrants and it also states that he tried it in his first term and failed.
It’s best you understand how to use fact check before making comments on and and how it didn’t ‘’work’’ in your attempt at whatever you were attempting.
Cheers
Original Bee Gees drummer Colin “Smiley” Petersen has died. He was 78.
Petersen’s death was announced by the Best of the Bee Gees Facebook page on Monday.
Barry Gibb, Colin Petersen, Vince Melouney, Robin Gibb, and Maurice Gibb in London in 1967. Getty Images
Colin Petersen, original Bee Gees drummer, dead at 78
My guess would be the terrorists that have been attacked Israel and have been taking the aid since October 2023.
That would be the rational conclusion.
And somehow we still see the low IQ side of the spectrum supporting the terrorists.
You must remember, the university professors categorize them as the "oppressed."
Really, you still think Hamas is in control of Gaza?
It is lord of the flies there. Any family, clan, or tribe that can lay hands on weapons is in charge now.
I never said Hamas. Only an idiot would think that it's one group. But either way, they're terrorists nonetheless.
In 2019 , the height of the Trump presidency, there were more illegal immigrant crossings than in any year since 2005. Go ahead, look it up.
Irrelevant. And since???????
Source: DHS • FY 2017 began Oct. 2016. 2024 data is YTD July 2024
How is it irrelevant, the seeded article brags about what he did in 2019.
Did you look at "since"? 2-3 million per year.............Trump in 2019, 1.15 million. I'd say, by comparison, he didn't do so bad.
Who are you trying to bullshit?
Here:
Key Facts:
FACTSHEET: Final FY23 Numbers Show Worst Year at America’s Borders—Ever – Committee on Homeland Security
Like always, you dont address the facts under discussion.
Your link disputes what you say:
Every year of Biden was greater than whatever came in 2019. Lokk at the charts there.
What BULL SHIT!
Like always, your denying truth and reality. Your powers of persuasion and intelligent discussion are non-existent.
More encounters doesn't mean the illegals were allowed to stay in the US. You do realize the brag is that immigrants who illegally jumped the border weren't allowed to stay.
A billion crossings doesn't matter too much if they were all sent back to Mexico. You'll need better data.
Prosecutors on Tuesday are set to tell a judge whether they think the criminal hush money case against President-elect Donald Trump should head to sentencing, as planned, or be dismissed following his electoral victory, as his lawyers have requested.
Prosecutors set to weigh in on fate of Trump New York hush money case
Merchan might just delay sentencing for 4 years.
That would be the epitome of lawfare. A big middle finger to America.
only in magaland does a convicted felon walk free ...
Only in lefty lala land does a case remain suspended in thin air without sentencing or a chance at appeal.
Who's a convicted felon?
It really is a farce. The other one wants us to take on the election was fixed argument.
That is why they lost so bad.
only in magaland do alleged technicalities in the law or justice supersede the crimes committed ...
trump's attacks on the military and his attempted unconstitutional use of them domestically will just make it a lot easier to buy black market military hardware ... ... bonus.
What crimes?
trump's attacks on the military and his attempted unconstitutional use of them domestically will just make it a lot easier to buy black market military hardware ... ... bonus.
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley admitted Wednesday that he would give his Chinese counterpart a heads up if the US launched an attack against Beijing, during a second day of grilling on Capitol Hill that touched on his two reported calls to the Chinese general.
Milley admits he would tell China if US launched an attack
That is treason.
I can't believe that nobody can answer why a great economy needs fixing.
oh, it's a great economy now? what about the poor economy trump was talking about 6 months ago?
Isn't that the premise of the article being promoted?
What, Specifically, Will Trump Do To 'Fix' The Economy? - Tᵢg | The NewsTalkers
It has two premises (contradictions) 1) that the Biden economy is great and 2) how will Trump fix it?
Can it be explained?
sorry, I keep forgetting that fraud and sexual assault aren't considered crimes by the maga faithful ...
Almost 77 million American voters have decided that those trials were lawfare & malfeasance.
That's what we've heard from the talking heads on the left for the last few years. If fact your candidate, for all that time, claimed it was doing good, then "campaigned" on fixing it.
The fraud was a misdemeanor past it's statute of limitations somehow inflated to a "felony" and the prosecutor had to shop around for a judge to even take the case. And if I remember right, the "fraud" case was shredded in the appeals court.
The sexual assault is fictitious. You might have been able to do something about it but instead the democrats and left waited ~30 years. It was a CIVIL case that can only find somebody LIABLE for something. No conviction.
The sad part is, neither of these would never have been brought if Trump wasn't such a threat to the left and the Democrats.
Again you misrepresent my article. Just blatant dishonesty.
My article asks what Trump supporters believe is wrong with the economy and what they believe Trump will do to ‘fix’ what they perceive as wrong.
I argue that our current economy is strong: growing GDP, normal unemployment, normal inflation rate, and that the bellwether of our economy continues to break record highs. I posit that the key problem perceived by Trump supporters is high prices. That is indeed a negative.
So, Vic, what is Trump going to do to lower prices across the board and/or raise wages so that prices are what his supporters expect?
Rather than dishonestly spin my challenge, put forth a thoughtful answer.
No, I'm critiquing it and the gang that has labored to keep it on page 1.
Just blatant dishonesty.
Gee, how come I don't get to say that.
My article asks what Trump supporters believe is wrong with the economy and what they believe Trump will do to ‘fix’ what they perceive as wrong.
Yes, that is your pointed question, however this was one of your premises:
So outside of prices and interest rates, let's look at the state of our economy. The GDP is growing and healthy. Wages are in good shape. Unemployment is at a normal rate. Inflation is at a normal rate. We are a net exporter of fossil fuel energy. We are exporting record levels of domestic crude.
For that to be true would render your question mute, does it not? Why would Trump have to fix anything?
You just totally misrepresented my article. You invented a contradiction that does not exist. You pretend that the article claims that the economy is good and then merely asks how Trump is going to fix it. The article claims the economy is good and asks what Trump supporters believe to cause them to think the economy is bad and what Trump is going to do to fix what they believe is bad.
Did you not see where I offered the likely problem per Trump supporters: prices and interest rates?
What is Trump going to do, Vic, to lower prices across the board and lower interest rates?
Tell us all, specifically, how Trump is going to achieve this.
I'm not pretending, that is how I saw it.
The article claims the economy is good and asks what Trump supporters believe to cause them to think the economy is bad and what Trump is going to do to fix what they believe is bad.
On that last line you alluded to that. I think you should have left out the part about the economy being good. Then I might have responded. As I have said many times there are certain facts that we all need to recognize. One is that the high prices caused by inflation haven't come down and they have a big impact on working people as well as those on fixed incomes. Until we can agree on that there is no reason to speculate on what the President-elect, who has already told us what he will do, is going to do.
Yeah dev, but those fabricated faux felonies don't amount to a bucket of warm poo.
After four years these cases will have been long forgotten.
which one? can you be more specific?
those felonies concern the bucket of warm poo elect ...
They were so obviously partisan in nature that they backfired and helped Trump.
When a judge tells a jury they can pick anything, it kind of gives it away.
Of course you dodge the question.
Not a surprise that nobody can tell us what Trump is going to do to fix the problems of the economy as perceived by Trump supporters.
So many people voted for Trump for 'the economy' yet nobody can articulate what Trump is going to do and how it will address the concerns of the Trump supporters.
Even when I offer that prices is the dominant negative of an otherwise good economy nobody can explain how Trump is going to lower prices across the board.
Your inexplicable misread is not something that I can remedy.
Do you recognize the difference between 'fix' and fix (no quotes)?
If you do not think the economy is good then offer a rebuttal.
Same way Harris was going to. Pixie dust.
Wait a damn minute! Harris had a plan, she was going to go after the price gougers, I don't understand why Joe didn't go after them, or why Harris would wait until after the election to help poor Americans, but dammit she had a plan.
Harris never claimed that she would fix prices across the board. She stated that she would target those who are currently price-gouging. That is a specific, legal action to go after those engaging in unfair business practices.
People voted for Trump because of the economy (major factor) and the prices of goods is the key factor that causes them to perceive the economy as bad.
You have tacitly admitted that Trump has no method (pixie dust) to lower prices as his supporters suggest. His supporters voted for Trump, in part, for something he cannot fix.
So the stupid bitch was blackmailing the voters? what stopped her from doing it before the election?
WTF are you talking about? Where does 'blackmailing' come from?
And the gratuitous 'stupid bitch' projects clear bias and misogyny.
Is an accurate description, and she was running for president right? she claimed IF elected she would go after price gougers, now address the issue if you can, without blaming Joe, WTF was stopping her from going after price gougers this entire time?
You don't pay attention? And you expect to be taken seriously?
Oh this is what you were confused about?
The PotUS sets the priorities. The VP executes the priorities.
If Harris were elected, she would be setting the priorities and one of her priorities (she said) would be to go after price-gougers.
All clear?
It expresses bigotry and misogyny. She is clearly not stupid and your use of 'bitch' expresses misogyny.
So you can't give an explanation without blaming Joe as requested. So why was Joe allowing price gouging? Senile or hates poor Americans? And if it was important to the stupid bitch why didn't she approach Joe or Congress about fixing it?
Where do I blame Biden? There is nothing wrong with setting priorities. Do you believe that a PotUS can or should attempt to address every problem?
Do you think any executive in the public or private sectors does not prioritize?
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It makes perfect sense. She was part of the dem machine trying to tell people there was no issue and inflation was just transitory. Why do anything about something that does not exist in their eyes? It only became an issue when they told her she was losing votes over it and people were not buying the shit she was selling
Same for the border. It only became a priority when they were going to lose votes over it.
So what were their priorities?
Trying to hide Bidens health from the American people
Surrounding themselves with "historic" firsts in positions in the white house.
Other than that they didn't care about Americans and America fired them.
Other than the blatant racism, why doesn't Biden resign and Make Kamala the first female African/Indian American president?
great idea, using the new immunity from SCOTUS and his oath of office, joe should take out the newly elected maga and 5 SC justices as a direct threat to the US, americans, and the constitution first, resign, and kamala can pardon him, just in case ... /s
Good Idea, you are going to love the 5 replacements that President Vance appoints.
I am sure he has been pressured to do just that. Chances are he refuses since he feels he was pushed out and not doing it is a middle finger to them.
oops, I should have been more specific. all the maga ...
“Other than the blatant racism, why doesn't Biden resign and Make Kamala the first female African/Indian American president?”
That would be an ugly stain on a historic accomplishment. She doesn’t deserve it.
Maybe she could address the rampant price gouging that her followers think is so prevalent, obviously Joe doesn't give a fuck about poor people.
But she’d most likely end up talking about her middle class roots and her neighbors with nice lawns and everybody would be thinking “what the hell is she talking about”? Or she’d get flustered because she has no answer and start cackling uncontrollably.
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She could have lied like Trump and claim that she will simply fix everything. But apparently she chose to not claim that she can lower prices across the board. Good for her since no PotUS can do that. Instead she spoke of something that a PotUS could actually do.
Unfortunately, the electorate wanted to believe pleasant lies rather than an uncomfortable truth.
Your comment is complete bullshit.
yea, and shouldn't the Russia Ukraine War be over by now ...?
he's 2 weeks overdue on that campaign promise ...
Point out what is untrue in my comment. Be specific.
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What then does that say about those who voted for him ... or defend him?
Not to worry, looks like Matt Gaetz will be the first pedophile AG,,
if I wasn't the one calling your comment out, calling TiGs' comment out and about how Harris chose the higher rode scholar way, as opposed to the clown who lies every damn day , i; could be considered unable to speak of, how dumb, i might be, but it was you who decided TiGs' truth was phony as a booth, in a diner eating dinner, while playing the tableside jukebox , u had to insert another Dime in Baby. You would call out my example of what TiG was exampling about how Kamala could have just told the voters , like TRump, what they, the voters wanted to hear, cause Harris not going down theTrump hole because he's rabid, and she has a soul, and he has a sole purpose that places him above everything, and his LIES are NOT OKthat one was dumb,but don't, talk about dumb, cause when 1 is dumb, it's like Fight Club, and a Slim Jim with pepperoni peace stick stone thrown doesn't seem a tad reversed, your mention of what like one like i, unlike you, might infer , his election lies, erection lies, ! How is it that You, are okay with Trump, and his LIES ? Mexico will pay for that, China will help build it, since their Wall builders are said to be ,GREAT at it says Tony, one of those big pussies Trump wood grab in China , buy the Vagina, while forgiving all of our debt China wood(not like Norwegian) cause Trump could be Scandanavian , or is it , Scandalhavian, cause how have you not had enuff of this crime wave of one, as it has only just again, about to, have begun
a gain is a loss on this one
a past sexual assault on the resume' is a guaranteed cabinet post ...
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[✘] i [✘] was simple pointing out that anybody who thought trump would end the Ukraine war 1 week after his election was an idiot. they voted for him in-spite of his lies is the only thing i can assume, not because of them, the democrats have lost touch with the people, that is obvious, they also need to learn that likability is a factor to 80% of the electorate, and that isn't Kamala no matter how you measure it.
Why not between Biden and Clinton I'm sure we have had 2 pedophile POTUS.
Are you referring to the probe that even the Biden DOJ refused to look into?
It’s a new criminal charge created by our rocket engineering friends on the left:
It’s a Felomeanor …..
He should..
Then he could claim he beat the first African/Indian woman VP and president in the same election.
No one would do that again.
And that is what it will be called from now on.
I will agree with some of your reasoning, cause I also think the Dems need more effective messaging and candidates that inspire more, just how so many can vote for such a piece of shit is weird, I believe the adjective was to describe the R's. What really bothers me is how so many are convinced by his incessant Lying, his bull shit, they be buying by the bovine bulshital,and that amount of consumption doesn't seem healthy or like ot would fit, unless they're buy the gross, cause he is and they've bought it, hooker, snortin lines, and sinkerin US further down the rabid hole
And we have the left and Democrats welcomed them with open arms are are still fighting to keep the border open so more of them can come in.
You heard them. If the gang is arrested or deported it would equate to "racism."
And they actually expect to be taken seriously.
I think that is why they lost the election.
That is a fairly long list of items.
They learned nothing.
Then there is this nugget of outright stupidity:
ACLU sues federal government for information on possible Trump mass deportations
These blockheads are suing for information about an operation that hasn't even remotely started and by somebody who hasn't taken office yet.
They want to slow it down and they have the Obama judges waiting.
Wouldn't these be the same judges used by the Biden Administration to force Arizona and Texas from doing what they failed to do?
That's right. Holder sued them on the grounds that only the federal government enforces immigration law (even when the feds don't want to)
Is Mexico really REALLY paying for it this time?
So much ado about not much. Trump is going to deport those who have been within the criminal justice system and convicted. You know, the criminal group. It has nothing to do with knocking on doors or storming factories. Only then will we see what or who is next if anyone.
I'm all for it, then fine the shit out of the owners for hiring them. and since it is illegal for them to work........deportation should go a lot faster.
Also the ones that went through their hearings and were denied asylum......that still refuse to go home.
BREAKING: Ibarra found guilty on 10 counts.............
Good riddance you piece of shit.
Good. Should have never been here in the first place.