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Cheating in the open

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  2 weeks ago  •  55 comments

Cheating in the open
“I think we all know that precedent by a court doesn’t matter anymore in this country, and people violate laws any time they want,” Ellis-Marseglia said at a meeting last week. “So, for me, if I violate this law, it’s because I want a court to pay attention to it. There’s nothing more important than counting votes.”



A Democratic election official in Pennsylvania defied a court order and sought to have about 600 illegal ballots in defiance of state Supreme Court rulings. Her name is Diane Ellis-Marseglia and she is a Bucks County Commissioner. She was one of two commissioners trying to aid Democratic Sen. Bob Casey in a recount vs Republican Dave McCormick, who leads by about 17,000 votes. How screwed up can things be in the most important swing state?  They are trying to do a recount and the ballots from election night still haven't been counted. PA has an idiotic rule that says the early ballots can't be counted until election day. the AP has already called the race and although Casey has every right to a recount, there aren't enough uncounted ballots to overcome McCormick's lead.

Now after coming under fire from all quarters, Ellis-Marseglia is apologizing:

So, the question asked by one woman at the meeting remains:

Why is only one side held accountable?

I think nothing happens to this election cheat. 

What say you?


In the news:

The U.S. cast the only vote against a U.N. Security Council resolution calling for a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas because the resolution did not make the truce contingent on the release of hostages.

Bernie Sanders, a critic of U.S. support for Israel, proposed measures to block weapons transfers to the country.

Russia fired an intercontinental ballistic missile during an attack on the Ukrainian city of Dnipro on Thursday, Kyiv's air force said, in what would be the first use in war of a weapon designed to deliver long-distance nuclear strikes.

The Justice Department asked a federal court to force Google to sell Chrome its web browser. A judge ruled in August that the company had an illegal monopoly in search.

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, who will lead Trump’s “Department of Government Efficiency,” have already made a recommendation. They are proposing that all federal employees work in person full time. Doing so, they said, could prompt a “wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome.”

Linda McMahon, Trump’s pick for education secretary, supports giving parents money to parents if they choose to send their kids to private schools.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Good morning

D emocrats confirmed two more Biden judicial nominees to lifetime posts Wednesday in narrow votes, in part due to the absences of Sens.  Ted Cruz  (R-TX) and  Mike Braun  (R-IN).

The votes took place as  Republican  senators faced pressure from conservatives and President-elect  Donald Trump  to return to Washington to help thwart Democrats from confirming more of President  Joe Biden 's nominees to lifetime posts as federal judges. If the two senators had voted, the nominees would not have been cleared Wednesday because Vice President Kamala Harris would have been unavailable to break the 50-50 tie.

Democrats confirm two more Biden judges as GOP senators fail to show up

It is a mad dash to appoint as many radical judges as possible before the end of the session.

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Stuff you may not know:

Remember when colleges were mostly populated by male students?

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Sean Treacy
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2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    2 weeks ago

Per progressives, this is proof of systematic sexism and should be the basis for lawsuits. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    2 weeks ago

I know it! Lol!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    2 weeks ago

Vic, I don't get your point here. Should women not go to college?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2    2 weeks ago

Men are discriminated against. Especially white men. More especially Christian white conservative men.  That will be the national theme for the foreseeable future. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2    2 weeks ago

I think teenage boys should be given a leg up in their educational endeavors  - as soon as they pledge to stop listening to Joe Rogan.  Anything else would be counter - productive. 

 
 
 
George
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2.2.3  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

The point is there isn't discrimination by gender, but run with another ignorant comment. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  George @2.2.3    2 weeks ago

You dont have a point. 

 
 
 
evilone
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2.2.5  evilone  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2    2 weeks ago
Should women not go to college?

Only if they are looking for an educated husband from a good family.

 
 
 
George
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2.2.6  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.4    2 weeks ago

I made my point quit clearly. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2    2 weeks ago
Vic, I don't get your point here.

My point is that it is amazing how things have changed. They are not only going, but they have outdone men.


Should women not go to college?

Absolutely. Especially the two I sent.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    2 weeks ago
Men are discriminated against.

Welcome back.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

Bucks county trying to steal an election, in the open. Usually they have the decency to do it behind close doors and at least try and make elections look legitimate 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 weeks ago

Don't ask, don't tell.

They would never do such a thing!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

The Biden administration is quietly rushing to implement new policies that will loosen restrictions on migrants who entered the US illegally — a parting attempt to thwart President-elect Donald Trump’s immigration crackdowns and  mass deportations , sources tell The Post.

And the Big Apple will be ground zero for these changes.

The outgoing administration  intends to launch an ICE Portal app  starting in early December in New York City that will allow migrants to bypass in-person check-ins to their local ICE office.

Exclusive | Biden admin to let illegal migrants skip NYC ICE appointments

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 weeks ago
The U.S. cast the only vote against a U.N. Security Council resolution calling for a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas because the resolution did not make the truce contingent on the release of hostages.

There was a cease fire in place on 6 October 2023.  That same cease fire was violated (yet again) by Gaza on 7 October 2023.  A cease fire is useless.  All it does is allows the terrorists to regroup and rearm to attack again.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5    2 weeks ago

That's about it.

I wonder how many remaining hostages are still alive?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    2 weeks ago

I doubt there are many still alive.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

The ones who were released long ago were in poor condition.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    2 weeks ago

I lost count of how many were found deceased.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.3    2 weeks ago
 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.4    2 weeks ago

"Killed in Israeli operation" my fat ass.  AND one is a US Citizen?  I have absolutely no sympathy for Gaza, Lebanon and the rest of the terrorists.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.5    2 weeks ago

In other words, they were about to be freed so Hamas killed them.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.6    2 weeks ago

That's how I see it.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.7    2 weeks ago

Remember this:

CNN  — 

The bodies of six hostages held by Hamas have been  recovered  in an underground tunnel in Gaza, Israel’s military said Sunday. The captives, including  an Israeli American , were among the more than 200 people taken by the militants into Gaza following their deadly cross-border rampage on October 7.

Five of them were taken from an Israeli music festival where hundreds were killed and dozens more were kidnapped by Hamas fighters. The sixth was captured from a nearby farming community, according to the Hostages Families Forum, which has coordinated efforts to highlight the plight of the captives and their families, and push for their release.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said their bodies were found in a Hamas-run tunnel under the city of Rafah, and that they were “brutally” murdered “a short while” before troops were able to reach them.

What we know about the six hostages killed in Gaza | CNN

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Believe it or not:

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    2 weeks ago

She is admitting that black Americans need a helping hand to be able to do pretty much everything.

She must be someone who has lived all the taxpayer most of her life. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bugsy @6.1    2 weeks ago
She is admitting that black Americans need a helping hand to be able to do pretty much everything.

And the rest of us need a good slap, evidently.

 
 
 
George
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6.1.2  George  replied to  bugsy @6.1    2 weeks ago
She is admitting that black Americans need a helping hand to be able to do pretty much everything.

And that my friend is how you identify the true racists.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.3  bugsy  replied to  George @6.1.2    2 weeks ago
nd that my friend is how you identify the true racists

Pretty easy when they out themselves in public.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    2 weeks ago

I can't be the only one to notice that she is part of the party that oppressed blacks and is not smart enough to put it together.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.2    2 weeks ago

It is truly amazing that the political party that once favored slavery can somehow pander to the same group of people every election cycle and getting the lion's share of that vote.

 
 
 
George
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6.2.2  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    2 weeks ago

Haven't you heard the amazing magic trick? the party of the klan who still thinks African Americans are inferior have convinced their ignorant followers that the parties have switched. Gullible doesn't cover it.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    2 weeks ago

it's probably due to the optics of those sheet wearing white supremacists waving trump flags ... /s

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @6.2.2    2 weeks ago

Well, you see, LBJ who got a lot of Republicans to back the Civil Rights Bill, told us all that he would have them (let us not use that word) voting democrat for the next 200 years. The left-wing fact checkers say there is little evidence to back up the mysterious "quote."  

It is interesting.

 
 
 
goose is back
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6.2.5  goose is back  replied to  devangelical @6.2.3    2 weeks ago
sheet wearing white supremacists waving trump flags

Oh....good come back.  That worked for you so well in the last election, make sure to keep it up. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    2 weeks ago

America not electing their best. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.3    2 weeks ago

Clearly American leaders haven't been appointing their best.

All those great credentials and we ended up with FEMA playing politics, a DOJ that goes after political enemies and an FBI that investigates parents and Catholics.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.3.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.3.1    2 weeks ago
Clearly American leaders haven't been appointing their best.

gaetz - child sex trafficking

hegseth - sexual assault

rfk jr - sexual assault

mcmahon - ongoing sex scandal

oz - medical quackery

noem - animal cruelty

etc, etc, etc ...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.3.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.3.1    2 weeks ago

We can't forget:

"Special Prosecutor" case thrown out due to illegal appointment.  

"Special Prosecutor" admitted in court to mishandling classified documents and evidence.  (Illegal appointment situation never resolved as he shopped around for a "friendly judge".)

"Special Prosecutor" rumored to be stepping down before 20 January 2025.

NY Judge adjourning a criminal trial without sentencing.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.3.4  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @6.3.2    2 weeks ago

The Biden admin...

Just a bunch of idiots

etc, etc, etc...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.3.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.3.3    2 weeks ago

And they don't want Trump to use his DOJ in the same way.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.3.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  devangelical @6.3.2    2 weeks ago
gaetz - child sex trafficking

You mean something even the Biden DOJ refused to follow through with?

hegseth - sexual assault

Looks like he's cleared.

rfk jr - sexual assault

From 1999?  25 years to come forward? That's not questionable.  But then again, it's not the first time the left has used old shit that probably won't pan out the way they want.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.3.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.3.5    2 weeks ago

I think the reason the Democrats are freaking out is because they know they set the president and the courts allowed it.  And there is nothing they can do to stop the next administration from following suit.

Now, with that hanging over their heads, it could mean that something might actually be accomplished to benefit the country.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.3.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.3.7    2 weeks ago

Do as I say, but not as I do.

They can't even spell democracy.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

The progressive Georgia district attorney who was prosecuting nursing student Laken Riley’s illegal immigrant killer refused to seek the death penalty even after removing herself from the case — drawing outrage when the defendant was sentenced to life without parole.

Athens-Clarke District Attorney Deborah Gonzalez, who  appointed a special prosecutor  to take over the prosecution of Jose Ibarra at the end of February amid criticism over her own prosecutorial record, laid out her soft-on-crime reforms when she assumed office in January 2021.

Gonzalez said her office would “no longer seek the death penalty” and when considering charging defendants, she would “take into account collateral consequences to undocumented defendants,” according to a copy of the district attorney’s policies shared by Georgia state Rep. Houston Gaines (R-Barrow).

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Clarke County District Attorney Deborah Gonzalez refused to seek the death penalty even after removing herself from the case. AP

Lefty Georgia DA in Laken Riley case faces outrage after killer migrant avoids death penalty

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    2 weeks ago
Clarke County District Attorney Deborah Gonzalez refused to seek the death penalty even after removing herself from the case.

And with that Gonzalez should be removed from her position.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1    2 weeks ago

How did we get all these social warriors in DA positions?

Anyone?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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7.2  Snuffy  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    2 weeks ago

I am not a proponent of the death sentence, due to the cost of the measure.

It costs more per prisoner for a prisoner to be put in 'death row' than it costs to handle a prisoner with a life sentence. As the average time spent between sentencing and execution reached 233 months in 2021, or 18.5 years. The average annual cost for a prisoner is $33k and the average annual cost for a prisoner in 'death row' is $60k to $70k. Of course the cost varies from state to state, and the annual cost at a federal prison is close to $40k. At double the cost, a LWOP prisoner must be incarcerated for 39 years to break even on the costs. The average prisoner sentenced to LWOP dies at 64 years. As Ibarra is 26, should he die at 64 he would be incarcerated for 38 years.

While I can understand why some people would prefer the death penalty to be carried out as it definitely insures that the person in question can never break that law again, I am against the death penalty from a simple math equation. It's cheaper to house a Life Without Parole prisoner than to keep them on 'death row'.

In 2021, an average of 233 months elapsed between sentencing and execution for inmates on death row in the United States. This is an increase from 1990, when an average of 95 months passed between sentencing and execution.

U.S. capital punishment - average time between sentencing and execution 2021 | Statista

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Snuffy @7.2    2 weeks ago
It's cheaper to house a Life Without Parole prisoner than to keep them on 'death row'.

That is a valid argument. Another is the one that Truman Capote made many years ago, which is that the US gives those sentenced so many appeals that is equates to unusual punishment because they are left in limbo for so long.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Snuffy @7.2    2 weeks ago
It's cheaper to house a Life Without Parole prisoner than to keep them on 'death row'.

IT's the method that makes it expensive.  A rope is only a few dollars at Ace Hardware.  But if that's too "inhumane" for those who should not be drawing breath, then there is another option.  

I believe it was George Carlin that mentioned putting executions on Pay Per View.  That would probably draw in enough funding to cover the cost.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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7.2.3  Snuffy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.2.2    2 weeks ago
IT's the method that makes it expensive.  A rope is only a few dollars at Ace Hardware.  But if that's too "inhumane" for those who should not be drawing breath, then there is another option.  

No, I disagree with you on that. What makes it so expensive is the special considerations and additional guards necessary for 'death row' AND the complex and time-consuming appeals procedures that are mandated by a death sentence. 

I believe it was George Carlin that mentioned putting executions on Pay Per View.  That would probably draw in enough funding to cover the cost.

Ahh, a fan of the 'Death Race' movies I see.  jrSmiley_7_smiley_image.png

I could actually favor it being on the evening news as an educational segment. If it convinces even one person who otherwise might think they could get away with the crime, it might be worth it. But the appeals process would need to be fixed and we need to insure that there are no faulty convictions. Only then would I be in favor of the death sentence as fixing the process would decrease the high price.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Snuffy @7.2.3    2 weeks ago
No, I disagree with you on that. What makes it so expensive is the special considerations and additional guards necessary for 'death row' AND the complex and time-consuming appeals procedures that are mandated by a death sentence.

The whole process can be changed.  It would be a long, drawn out process to do, but it can be done.

I could actually favor it being on the evening news as an educational segment. If it convinces even one person who otherwise might think they could get away with the crime, it might be worth it.

I agree completely.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Maybe we can have the FBI investigate these horrible citizens / S



 
 

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