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"Police Officers were Injured and Killed": Klobuchar Repeats Common False Claim About January 6th

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  2 days ago  •  47 comments

By:   JONATHAN TURLEY

"Police Officers were Injured and Killed": Klobuchar Repeats Common False Claim About January 6th
Minnesota Democrat Sen. Amy Klobuchar this week was hit by a "community note" flagging a common false statement made about January 6th and how multiple officers were killed that day. Democratic leaders routinely refer to multiple deaths of officers when the only person to die on January 6th was Ashli Babbitt, a killing of an…

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Minnesota Democrat Sen. Amy Klobuchar this week was hit by a "community note" flagging a common false statement made about January 6th and how multiple officers were killed that day. Democratic leaders routinely refer to multiple deaths of officers when the only person to die on January 6th was Ashli Babbitt, a killing of an unarmed protester that remains controversial after a whitewashing by the Capitol Police. Klobuchar, who has been a vocal supporter of censorship to quell "disinformation" on social media, repeated the false narrative and declared that "Police officers were injured and killed."

Klobuchar joined other Democrats in repeating the claim in her post on X:


"Four years ago, the electoral vote certification was interrupted by a violent mob. Police officers were injured and killed. Our democracy hung in the balance. I knew we had to do our duty and complete the count - and in the early hours of January 7th, we did."

That posting quickly led to a "Community Note" by X that said, "No officers were killed."

Immediately after the riot, Democrats started to repeat this claim, particularly concerning the later death of U.S. Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick. The New York Times helped spread the false claim that he died as a result of being hit with a fire extinguisher.

In reality, Sicknick suffered two strokes and died of natural causes the day after the riot. As the note states, "The medical examiner found Sicknick died of natural causes which means 'a disease alone causes death. If death is hastened by an injury, the manner of death is not considered natural.' Four other officers committed suicide days to months later."

While repeating this claim, Democrats also downplay the riot around the White House in the previous summer, including some like Rep. Jamie Raskin (D., Md), who has bizarrely insisted that the protests were "peaceful."

While many today still claim that the protests were "entirely peaceful" and there was no "attack on the White House," that claim is demonstrably false. It is only plausible if one looks at the level of violence at the start of the clearing operation as opposed to the prior 48 hours. There was, in fact, an exceptionally high number of officers injured during the protests. In addition to a reported 150 officers injured (including at least 49 Park Police officers around the White House), protesters caused extensive property damage including the torching of a historic structure and the attempted arson of St. John's. The threat was so great that Trump had to be moved into the bunker because the Secret Service feared a breach of security around the White House.

Of course, January 6th was bad enough—it does not need embellishment. Many of us immediately condemned it at the time as a desecration of our traditions and values. It was a disgraceful riot that interrupted the constitutionally mandated transition of power. However, the repeated use of this false claim is a disservice to the public and a misuse of this national tragedy. This repetition is referred to by psychologists as creating the "illusion of truth." If repeated enough times, the lie becomes the truth, and those who object are then attacked as "deniers" or "insurrectionist sympathizers."

On "misinformation," Klobuchar has pushed social media companies to "take this crap off." She has sponsored legislation to support censorship, particularly when it comes to the pandemic and COVID-19. She has stressed "how lethal misinformation can be and it is our responsibility to take action." In this case, the lethality was the misinformation.


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Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of " The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage ."


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 days ago

They just keep lying!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 days ago

What took place on Jan 6, 2021 was sufficiently bad on its own merits.   There is no reason to embellish or exaggerate what took place.    

The big lies that are taking place are from those who try to push alternate narratives that downplay the severity.   Those lies are far more prevalent and damaging to our nation than what Klobuchar just did.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    2 days ago
 There is no reason to embellish or exaggerate what took place. 

Then why did democrats do it?

Is it equal to Pearl Harbor?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    2 days ago
Is it equal to Pearl Harbor?

According to Sunny Hostin it was more like the holocaust.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1.2    2 days ago

I think we can all agree that it might have been the worst thing that ever happened and at the same time the dems seem to have a fondness for it.

Go figure.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    2 days ago

Are you not aware that politicians routinely lie?    It is not just Democrats; lying seems to be a necessary factor of politics.   

You voted for a man who is arguably the most prolific public liar in our nation.   For whom lying is the modus operandi ... who invents whatever alternate reality he desires and then just lies about it ... continuously.

If you are going to complain about lies like Klobuchar's how is it possible that you can overlook the outrageous and continuous lying by Trump ... someone whose lies are empowered by the presidency??

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.4    2 days ago
Are you not aware that politicians routinely lie? 

I am aware that the long walk-through America's institutions by the radical left took place.


You voted for a man who is arguably the most prolific public liar in our nation.

I voted for the man who launched the counter revolution.


If you are going to complain about lies like Klobuchar's how is it possible that you can overlook the outrageous and continuous lying by Trump ... someone whose lies are empowered by the presidency??

I am condemning Klobuchar and every tool of the radical left. Thank God for Trump and may those who follow after him never falter.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.5    2 days ago
Thank God for Trump and may those who follow after him never falter.

This is irrational.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.6    2 days ago

What is irrational is the policies the US was subjected to over the past 4 years, starting with a wide open border.

 
 
 
evilone
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1.1.8  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    2 days ago
What is irrational is the policies the US was subjected to over the past 4 years, starting with a wide open border.

Still telling the same lies? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  evilone @1.1.8    2 days ago
Still telling the same lies? 

Still ignoring what is in front of your eyes and believing what you are told to believe?

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.10  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.4    2 days ago

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TᵢG
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1.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    2 days ago

Some people have a ridiculous, exaggerated alternate reality where Biden does nothing right and Trump can do nothing wrong.   It is pathetic.

Even before the prick takes office, he gratuitously publicly threatens Canada, Mexico, and China with across-the-board 25%/10% tariffs without even having a single private discussion.   He is a loose-cannon and an idiot.   And you think this is good for the USA!

Do you also think that Matt Gaetz was a good choice for AG?   Or that Pete Hegseth is a good choice to run the DoD (one of the most important cabinet positions)?

Trump is a narcissistic fool who is now an emboldened loose-cannon.   How anyone can look at our history and think that this asshole is good for the USA is staggering.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.12  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.4    2 days ago
"You voted for a man who is arguably the most prolific public liar in our nation.   For whom lying is the modus operandi ... who invents whatever alternate reality he desires and then just lies about it ... continuously'
The same could be said of Biden, who in reality, is a really awful person.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.12    2 days ago

The predictable deflection.

The choice was Harris or Trump.   Those who voted for Trump are responsible for the actions of a vindictive, irresponsible narcissist that will soon be the most powerful person on the planet and will serve as the face and voice of our nation.

You should all be ashamed.

 
 
 
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1.1.14  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    2 days ago

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Vic Eldred
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1.1.15  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.11    yesterday
Some people have a ridiculous, exaggerated alternate reality where Biden does nothing right and Trump can do nothing wrong.

If that were so they would have trouble when it came to the US Steel decision.


Even before the prick takes office, he gratuitously publicly threatens Canada, Mexico, and China with across-the-board 25%/10% tariffs without even having a single private discussion.   He is a loose-cannon and an idiot.   And you think this is good for the USA!

Name calling really doesn't advance your cause. Canada is about to do exactly what the US just did. Mexico is a dangerous failed state that is partly responsible for the migrants and fentanyl coming into our country. Do I really need to go through all that China is doing & has done?


Do you also think that Matt Gaetz was a good choice for AG? 

No, I didn't, and I said so at the time. How did that turn out? The end result however is that Gaetz is completely gone and out of Speaker Johnson's hair. I do like Kash Patel to take over an obviously politicized FBI. I suppose you still refuse to admit that the FBI has been politicized.


Or that Pete Hegseth is a good choice to run the DoD (one of the most important cabinet positions)?

I absolutely like that choice. Pete loves the USA and the military and however much he once drank, I'm sure it was less than Admiral King or General Grant. He is far above the woke scum that Biden had placed to head the Defense Dept. I hope he rids the military of all the woke ideology and DEI.


Trump is a narcissistic fool who is now an emboldened loose-cannon.

He is a great leader who broke the grip the radical left had on this country.


 How anyone can look at our history and think that this asshole is good for the USA is staggering.

I'm happy to report that much of the country disagrees.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.16  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.15    yesterday
Canada is about to do exactly what the US just did. Mexico is a dangerous failed state that is partly responsible for the migrants and fentanyl coming into our country. Do I really need to go through all that China is doing & has done?

Of course ... you support and defend Trump's irresponsible gratuitous PUBLIC threat of an across-the-board 25%/10% tariff on Canada/Mexico/China that he made without even having a PRIVATE discussion with these trade partners.  

No, I didn't, and I said so at the time. How did that turn out? The end result however is that Gaetz is completely gone and out of Speaker Johnson's hair. I do like Kash Patel to take over an obviously politicized FBI.   And every aspect of government is politicized ... even the SCotUS.   So all one can do is talk of degrees.

So you recognize Trump's terrible choices.   Does it not bother you that Trump is capable and willing to make such crappy choices ... to put unqualified sycophants in extremely important positions?

I absolutely like that choice.

Hegseth is wholly unqualified to run the DoD and has serious character and competence issues.   Trump yet again cares more about loyalty to him personally than putting qualified people in important jobs.

He is a great leader who broke the grip the radical left had on this country.

He is a demagogue.   His great skill is conning gullible people and since he does not care what happens to them there is no natural governor to constrain him.

I'm happy to report that much of the country disagrees.

Short-lived based on what Trump has indicated even while president-elect.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.17  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.16    yesterday
without even having a PRIVATE discussion with these trade partners.

You know this how? We have explained to you many times that Trump trolls everyday to get a rise out of you, et al. Every day we say we will wait and see what happens, but you, et al, seem to think every single thing he says will come to fruition. Hyperbole and desperation at its finest.

"So you recognize Trump's terrible choices. Does it not bother you that Trump is capable and willing to make such crappy choices ... to put unqualified sycophants in extremely important positions?

He recognized ONE crappy choice, not plural like what you are trying to falsely accuse him of. I think most conservatives thought Gaetz was a crappy pick but pretty much all the others are good. In addition, you, et al have been shown that many of Biden's cabinet picks were nothing more that democrat donors or some that had zero experience in the departments they led.

"Hegseth is wholly unqualified to run the DoD and has serious character and competence issues. Trump yet again cares more about loyalty to him personally than putting qualified people in important jobs."

See above. What cabinet picks that Biden made were not loyalists? Let me answer. All of them were pr else none of them would have been in those positions.

"He is a demagogue. His great skill is conning gullible people and since he does not care what happens to them there is no natural governor to constrain him."

Nice opinion, but an incorrect one.

"Short-lived based on what Trump has indicated even while president-elect."

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goose is back
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1.1.18  goose is back  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.4    28 minutes ago
Are you not aware that politicians routinely lie?    It is not just Democrats; lying seems to be a necessary factor of politics.

Then "stop" complaining about Trump lying. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 days ago

Even the Capital Police release states he did not die from the protest.

Medical Examiner Finds USCP Officer Brian Sicknick Died of Natural Causes

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3    2 days ago

The first lie they told about him was that he was hit with a fire extinguisher.

How many lies have they told about this?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 days ago
How many lies have they told about this?

Remember, they told us MULTIPLE people died during the protest.  Reality and fact don't match with what they want everybody to believe.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.1    2 days ago

And AOC who wasn't even there told us she was afraid that she would be raped!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    2 days ago
AOC

Speaking of attention seeking idiots...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.3    2 days ago

She is so afraid of all those who might rape her. I doubt many men are buying whatever it is she is selling.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 days ago
How many lies have they told about this?

They even used the lie as evidence in his impeachment trial. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    2 days ago
I doubt many men are buying whatever it is she is selling.

To include her watered down drinks.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.5    2 days ago

What a sham that was.

If only Joe Stalin was alive to see it. I'm sure he would tell Liz Cheney: "Liz you are an idiot, and you will go far."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.6    2 days ago

Tom Homan was the one who finally shamed her.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.5    2 days ago

Making the "impeachment" even more of a joke.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.8    2 days ago

You referring to this:

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.11  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.10    2 days ago

Once again, you get the A+

 
 
 
George
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4  George    2 days ago

What is the over/under that the incompetent POS at the FBI will every figure out who placed the pipe bombs on Jan 6th, they've caught everyone else.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @4    2 days ago

They can't even figure out who left a sack of drugs at the WH the day Hunter Biden came to visit.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    2 days ago

This thread is pathetic. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5    2 days ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @5    2 days ago

Truth and exposure often do seem pathetic to some of different mindsets.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5    2 days ago
This thread is pathetic. 

It must be tough.  Years of "neo-nazis are good people" "Biden is better than he's ever been" " The laptop is russian disinformation"  "The virus isn't contagious when you protest racism, but schools must stay shut" "the lab leak is a conspiracy theory" "Trump is a Russsian agent" and "cops were killed on Jan 6th"  plus so many more resulted in Donald Trump being President again.   

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.3.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.3    2 days ago
"The virus isn't contagious when you protest racism, but schools must stay shut" "the lab leak is a conspiracy theory" "Trump is a Russsian agent" and "cops were killed on Jan 6th"  plus so many more resulted in Donald Trump being President again.   

Exactly. So many folks just don't get that people are tired of being taken for fools and that resulted in votes for the other guy.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @5    2 days ago

Ah, the ole nuh-uh response.

Weak sauce

 
 
 
Kavika
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6  Kavika     2 days ago

So Kobacher lied and it fits right in with the rights lie of ‘’they were tourists’’. Gotta luv the how the right forgets their lies.

Hey Vic, nice to see you back after you unquit. BTW is your avatar from the movie, ‘’Cool Hand Luke’’?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @6    yesterday
BTW is your avatar from the movie, ‘’Cool Hand Luke’’?

Yes. I think I already went through that above.

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    yesterday

So it’s is him, not a good choice IMO, he shot and killed an unarmed man that’s murder.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @6.1.1    yesterday
he shot and killed an unarmed man that’s murder.

Not according to Nancy Pelosi and the Capitol Police.

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.1.3  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    23 hours ago

Not even close to the same thing as you well know., Keep swinging.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    yesterday
Amy Klobuchar this week was hit by a "community note" flagging a common false statement made about January 6th and how multiple officers were killed that day.

Well, it’s not false. It’s true. 

There are many ways to kill a person, and not all of them lead to immediate death. It is a fact that the events of that day were a cause of death for several police officers.

It is absurd to try and claim that no one was killed simply because the most proximate cause of death was a stroke or some self-inflicted act a day or days later. People are prosecuted - and convicted - of homicides all the time because they did something that led to a death later on.

It should be obvious that if you beat someone and they die from some failure of blood flow in their brain or body, you murdered that person - even if he doesn’t bleed out for a day.

It’s also a crime to incite a suicide, and that can be perpetrated through varied means, such as suggestion, or mental or physical torture.

The fact that they did not die on that exact day does not alter the fact that the killing acts occurred on that day.

This urgent need to absolve rioters, those who encouraged them, and those who defend them in the deaths of police officers is understandable, but morally reprehensible.

 
 

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