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Schumer caves in. Another victory for Trump.

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  42 comments

Schumer caves in. Another victory for Trump.
“I believe it is my job to make the best choice for the country to minimize the harms to the American people, Schumer said Thursday on the Senate floor, according to Newsweek. “Therefore, I will vote to keep the government open and not shut it down.”


It seems that the Senate democrats have decided that a government shutdown would not only hurt the already suffering democrat party but also allow the President to make further cuts and determine what elements of government were essential. After all the tough talk minority leader Schumer said that he, himself would vote to keep the government open, thus pretty much insuring passage of the Republican funding bill.


It would appear that this gives the President and Congressional Republicans and important victory on the federal budget. The vote still has to take place sometime today.

It has been a busy month or so for fact reporters like yours truly. Covering the opening month of America's Golden Age can be a daunting task. As I recall the great Edward R Murrow would go through packs of Camel cigarettes in the course of a day.

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Would you walk a mile for one?

I'll be back late tonight.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

"Good night and good luck."

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    one month ago

The sad part of the Democrats refusal is that the items in the CR are the same as the items in CR's passed at the end of the Biden Administration.  The only real change is who the President is. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    one month ago
The sad part of the Democrats refusal is that the items in the CR are the same as the items in CR's passed at the end of the Biden Administration.

Not exactly. The part about redefining a “ calendar day ” is new.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tacos! @2.1    one month ago

The only real change is who the President is. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.1    one month ago

No, the real change is that Congress just gave away their power.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.2    one month ago

To do what?

Shut down the government?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.3    one month ago

No. Congress has the power to confirm or overturn Trump’s declaration of an emergency. Republicans inserted language into the CR that removes that authority.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.4    one month ago
Republicans inserted language into the CR that removes that authority.

So, they needed to shut down the government?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.5    one month ago

My point was that the CR was not the same. Follow the thread. I can’t tell you why individual members vote the way they do.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.6    one month ago
My point was that the CR was not the same.

Can you show us the language you think is so different?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.8  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.7    one month ago
Can you show us the language you think is so different?

I linked to the thing I’m referencing way back in @2.1 when I first mentioned it.

Also, JBB posted the story a few days ago here .

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.8    one month ago

Such a resolution must be brought to the floor within 15 calendar days and voted on within 3 calendar days. If successful, the underlying national emergency would be terminated, as would the IEEPA tariffs. 

So, what happened?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.10  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.9    one month ago

They inserted language that says 

“Each day for the remainder of the first session of the 119th Congress shall not constitute a calendar day for purposes of section 202 of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622) with respect to a joint resolution terminating a national emergency declared by the President on February 1, 2025.”

So for the next two years - and in reference to this issue only - there is no such thing as a “calendar day.” When Democrats call for a vote (and yes, they can) on the issue, a clock starts ticking.

The way it works is the House has 6 months to develop a resolution in committee to confirm or terminate the emergency. The issue is referred to the committee, which has 15 days to produce the resolution. Then there must be a vote on it within 3 days. I’m saying “days” but the statute says “calendar days.”

Except the Republicans decided that there is now no such thing, so the vote doesn’t have to occur.

The consequence of a vote would be bad for many Republicans, no matter how they voted. Vote to reverse the declaration, and they are opposing Trump. That’s obviously a bad political move. But if they vote to affirm the declaration, then they go on the record supporting damaging tariffs that their constituents are complaining about. So, with no good outcome possible, they inserted this language to avoid the vote altogether.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3  Just Jim NC TttH    one month ago

Oh oh. The little bartender girl is mad...........

"I believe that's a tremendous mistake," she told CNN's Jake Tapper on Thursday afternoon, pointing to contentious town halls that GOP lawmakers have experienced in recent weeks as evidence that Americans do not support the MAGA agenda. "American people, whether they are Republicans, independents, Democrats, are up in arms about Elon Musk and the actual gutting of federal agencies across the board."

So out of touch........

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3    one month ago
The little bartender girl is mad...........

She has far bigger problems than her TDS temper tantrum.

 
 
 
George
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3.2  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3    one month ago

The lefts heroes are an interesting bunch, a horse face bartender and a little terrorist girl [] the [] Botox queen who got rich through insider trading is pretty much irrelevant, she had the good sense to disappear when things got bad.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4  Robert in Ohio    one month ago

The Democrats have no plan, the Democrats have no leader -  the Democrats have no chance to rein in Trump without those two things.

They are wailing and whining, but the Idiot in Chief continues to mangle the government and detroy the country's standing in the world.

And the Democrats are content to watch

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Robert in Ohio @4    one month ago
They are wailing and whining, but the Idiot in Chief continues to mangle the government and detroy the country's standing in the world.

You mean not allowing the world to use the US as their security forces and bank?  It's long past due that they do for themselves and quit relying on the US for, well, everything.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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4.1.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1    one month ago

the Idiot in Chief continues to mangle the government and detroy the country's standing in the world.

No there was no hidden meaning to the statement, a literal interpretation of the words is exactly what I meant and exactly what Trump is doing.

 
 
 
George
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5  George    one month ago

Maybe Chuck didn't like how catchy the Schumer shutdown was? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6  JohnRussell    one month ago

This article is a bizarre promotion of cancer stix. 

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
7  squiggy    one month ago

How To Look Like A Hero - when you don't have the votes.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8  Jeremy Retired in NC    one month ago

And with Schumer and Fetterman caving, the party of hissy fit is having a meltdown.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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8.1  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8    one month ago

Politics 101.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9  Sean Treacy    one month ago

Talking tough at breakfast, caving by lunch.. Good job Chuckie boy.

But he called republicans "bastards" to signal to his base what a tough guy he is though.  

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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10  Nerm_L    one month ago

Maybe it is nuanced but there is a difference between caving and having no choice.  Schumer didn't cave any more than Zelensky and Putin caved.  

Do not underestimate the power of retribution.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Update:

In the end, nine senators who caucus with Democrats joined with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) in voting to advance legislation to avoid a government shutdown, essentially giving up Democratic leverage over President Donald Trump for the foreseeable future.

Their support meant the bill was able to break the 60-vote threshold to avoid a filibuster, 62-38. 

These nine senators are likely to share in Schumer’s political suffering, though none of them are an obvious target for an immediate primary challenge.

  • Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.):  The party’s leading contrarian at the moment, Fetterman has repeatedly said he will never vote for a government shutdown under any circumstances. He’s not up for reelection until 2028.
  • Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.):  Cortez Masto said her vote was not an “easy decision,” but she was refusing to “hand [Trump and Musk] a shutdown where they would have free reign to cause more chaos and harm.” She’s not up for reelection until 2028.
  • Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.):  Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the party’s Senate leadership, is up for reelection in 2026 but is widely expected to retire. 
  • Sen. Angus King (I-Maine):  King’s state is heavily reliant on government funds, and he said in a statement posted to his  Facebook page  giving Musk and Trump power would be a “significantly greater danger to the country than the continuing resolution with all of its faults.” King is not up for reelection until 2030.
  • Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii):  Schatz is known to have leadership ambitions, and taking this vote may show he’s willing to take a political hit for the rest of the caucus. Hawaii is also heavily reliant on federal employees. “Given the number of federal workers in Hawai‘i, mass furloughs would be deeply painful for people across the state,” he said in a statement. Schatz is up for reelection in 2028. 
  • Sens. Maggie Hassan and Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.):  The Granite State duo are both moderates, and Shaheen is set to retire rather than run for reelection in 2026. Hassan is up for reelection in 2028. “Allowing the federal government to shut down with this President in charge is too dangerous to risk,” Hassan said in a statement.
  • Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.):  Peters has already announced his plan to retire in 2026. He said a shutdown under Trump would be “catastrophic” 
  • Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.):  A close ally of her fellow New Yorker, Gillibrand is also the chair of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee this cycle. She’s not up for reelection until 2030. 

    Here Are The Democrats Who Advanced A GOP Bill To Avoid A Government Shutdown
 
 
 
Split Personality
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11.1  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    one month ago
In the end, nine senators who caucus with Democrats joined with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) in voting to advance legislation to avoid a government shutdown, essentially giving up Democratic leverage over President Donald Trump for the foreseeable future.

Well there's an asinine point of view.  If the Dems shut the system down they would be the boogey man like the GOP regularly is after government shutdowns.

There was also no easy way for the Dems, had they shut down the Government, to call anyone back to D.C. to end it.

They chose bipartisan duty to the country.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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11.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Split Personality @11.1    one month ago

Well there's an asinine point of view

Well, aoc is asinine.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @11.1    one month ago
They chose bipartisan duty to the country.

Maybe Schumer and a few others did.

It seems that Jeffries and Pelosi disagree.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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11.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.1    one month ago

Who cares except the New Yorkers in her district?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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11.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1.2    one month ago
It seems that Jeffries and Pelosi disagree.

Perfectly within their individual rights.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @11.1.4    one month ago

But you said it was an asinine point of view.

Are you defending them or condemning them?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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11.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1.5    one month ago
essentially giving up Democratic leverage over President Donald Trump for the foreseeable future.

Neither.

The author said they were giving up leverage for the foreseeable future.

That happened last November. There is little leverage in a shutdown. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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11.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    one month ago

It’s been amusing watching Kristin sinema (who with manchin saved the filibuster from destruction by democrats)  retweeting all the democrats calling for its use yesterday  who two years ago  called the filibuster the “Jim Crow filibuster”, a tool for racists etc. 

After driving sinema out of the party, there aren’t many adults left on the democratic side.  All that’s left are clowns with the self control of toddlers  who can’t see past what they want right now! 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.2    one month ago

As with Lawrence O'Donnell, they are exhausted & beaten.

And it is only the beginning.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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12  author  Vic Eldred    one month ago

Schumer is now likely to be primaried by AOC.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Vic Eldred @12    one month ago

AOC becoming the face of the dems would be a gift to Republicans 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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12.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1    one month ago

Absolutely!

Most people don't think like her. She may win in New York, but her state may be facing difficulties.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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12.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @12    one month ago

Who cares except New Yorkers?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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12.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @12.2    one month ago
New Yorkers

And what would you like me to say about them?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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12.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.2.1    one month ago
And what would you like me to say about them?

Nothing.  What makes you think a response was necessary?

 
 

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