Is It Right To Hope That Tesla Fails As A Company ?
The latest national controversy bubbling through mainstream media and panel shows is whether it is right or wrong to protest Tesla dealerships and /or hope that Tesla stock crashes and Musk loses many billions of dollars.
So I throw open that question here.
Let us remember that trying to destroy the worth of companies has a fairly long tradition from the right as well, the most significant recent example being the right wing wish and boycott against Bud Light beer, which damaged that brand for a significant period of time. I have a nephew who used to drink only Bud Light, now, because he is MAGA, he wont touch it even though it was his favorite beer.
I dont think anyone wants to ruin Tesla per se, but rather ruin Elon Musk. I suppose it is unfortunate that he made himself synonymous with the product, but something has to give, and millions and millions of Americans will agree to sacrifice Tesla in order to get Musk out of the pinnacle of American public life.
Musk IS NOT a patriotic American.
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A few weeks ago there were news stories about the Department Of Defense buying hundreds of Tesla cybertrucks for battlefield use. Today there are news stories about every single tesla cybertruck being recalled because the glue used to hold sections of it together has failed.
oops, I guess the afrikaner forgot that the people most likely to purchase his vehicles were the same people his doge BS is affecting.
my son and DIL got invited for a tesla truck test drive 2 weeks ago, after waiting about a year after applying online. they had to drive past the protesters 4 times, and said the sales people in the dealership were falling all over themselves being nice, but my DIL is a latina badass so she was unaffected. she didn't like the truck, but my son did, but they had already bought another vehicle about the same time they set up the test drive last year.
I also have a friend that has a tesla sedan that he's now afraid to move out of his garage, because he's afraid "somebody will paint a swastika on it". he put it up for sale, since he's a federal employee that's received the retire or else and tell us what you did this week emails, but hasn't gotten a serious call on the car in almost 3 weeks.
"Does US have $400 million contract with Tesla for Cybertrucks? No."
"Nearly All Cybertrucks Have Been Recalled Because Tesla Used the Wrong Glue | WIRED"
Getting kinda sloppy on sourcing your stories, it appears. No mention of the DoD purchasing any cybertruck. And it wasn't about
" every single tesla cybertruck being recalled".
So to get back at Musk, the left wants Tesla to fold. So screw the thousands of employees and the company's suppliers families?
Typical leftist illogic.
There is a reason why people who peddle their wares in the marketplace are careful about being cross with the public, because the customer is always right!
It's not wise for a businessman to go around purposely pissing off those to whom he wishes to sell merchandise!
Tesla vehicles have many, many problems.
Now that Musk has become the worst, most hated asshole on the planet, it's not surprising that Tesla stock is tanking.
I hope he [removed] [✘] poor living on Ramon noodles.
The latest national controversy bubbling through mainstream media and panel shows is whether it is right or wrong to protest Tesla dealerships and /or hope that Tesla stock crashes and Musk loses many billions of dollars.
False:
The controversy is over the obvious coordinated effort to vandalize Tesla dealerships and charging stations while doxing Tesla dealers and vandalizing the cars of Tesla drivers. Once again, the left has turned to violence and intimidation. How soon before someone is killed?
All these toxic masculinity types need to take a knee everywhere and on all sides. And by the way, right ringers are doxing, threatening, and going overboard to " Be the man" aggressively.
There is no need to try to deny it. We have eyes to see, ears to hear with, and brains to process The information between the two.
Hopefully every one of Musk's and Trump's businesses go belly up and neither of them are allowed to do business in the U.S. of A ever again.
They are the worst kind of fascists this country has had to deal with since Hitler!
They should back off before all of those vets, FBI, CIA, and other rifle trained folk that they've screwed over decide it's time for payback.
So take care of the recall. It happens every day in America.
To hope for a fully American company to fail because the owner hurt leftist feelings is unpatriotic and just plain dumbassery.
BTW.....no one wished for the full destruction of Bud Light. If you have proof of someone calling for the extinction of Bud Light, please post it.
Let me be clear! A businessman who sticks his nose into the public sector and fires people that don't even work for him and his private business interests should understand The nature of the task undertaken. These are real people just as dedicated to their employment has any private sector individuals. So no one should wish Tesla ruin per se, but they are perfectly right not to wish well anyone who seeks their political removal/ firing in order to please a certain and specific constituency in this case the GOP.
What needs to be understood is that he is a legally appointed employee by the President of the United States and that he will carry out all orders of said president as long as it is lawful. If it becomes unlawful, then the courts can put an end to it. As of now, no judge has stopped him from doing his work.
Maybe you should pay attention to left wing sources and you will see pundits hoping for the demise of Tesla.
Your "argument" is mute.
Probably want to ask yourself why the richest man in the world needs a job to keep him occupied and is forsaking his own business interest to do so out of the goodness of his own heart.
What's in it for him?
But no, you won't do that because it's so much easier to think that your side is winning and setting back liberals. It is possible that everything you have come to love about this country is being affected by someone who can simply just buy the damn government for a price!
The trick is going to be on everyone who believes this is a damn game and not real life damage to our way of life.
Can somebody at least "talk to" Kid Rock and Ted Nugent before Trump has them play the Kennedy Center?
Doubtful...
NO! IT ISN'T
Why not???
Same reasons that GM wasn't allowed to fail a few years back. And, if they are set to fail, this reasoning and methodology is bullshit
Your comment has nothing to do with my question or the subject of this article. Why can't someone hope Tesla fails?????
To quote a former PotUS, "That's not who we are". Now if you would like, go ahead and hope it fails. As an American, that seems like a wish contrary to what should be prominent just because someone is pissing in your Post Toasties.
So you finally admit that it is okay for someone to hope it fails in direct contradiction to your first post .
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I happen to agree with you on this one. I don't want Tesla to fail, there are a lot of American workers jobs on the line and they make good cars, so I unequivocally condemn any violence or vandalism targeting Tesla's or their drivers or employees.
I do understand people's frustration with Musk, but he must be held accountable for his actions and wreaking havoc in our government separately. That's on him, not his company or cars.
With that said, watching the American President act like a fucking car salesman on the Whitehouse lawn on Musk's and Tesla's behalf was beyond embarrassing. What a fucking shit show. No fair and balanced there, no other auto makers were invited to such an ethically corrupt car commercial at the Whitehouse.
We as a nation are in uncharted territory. I dont have any problem with Tesla cars and certainly not with their employees.
But what WILL effect Musk, and Trump too for that matter? Something must be done and protesting his company is not out of the question imo. The burning of the cars at dealerships is a crime and should be prosecuted accordingly.
While I don't want Tesla to fail, and I won't be supporting any of the vandals or attending any boycotts, I won't be buying any Tesla's for the foreseeable future. I bought a new Toyota Highlander a couple weeks ago and could have bought a Tesla but chose not to, mostly because it would be inconvenient with few charging stations close by, but also because I didn't want to help fund the architect of many Americans suffering and loss of jobs and general chaos that Musk has injected into our government.
I agree with that. Many Tesla techs have worked near miracles. And all in Tesla want Musk gone!
Funny what happens when you piss off a monster of your own creation. Ask Dr. Frankenstein.
Extremely doubtful...............let's see some backup. and before we start with the "can you do research" bullshit, you made the claim. Burden of proof is up to you.
There is no problem with protesting. But to take it to the level most left wing assclowns do and turn it into terrorist acts is different.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/jeff-charles/2025/03/18/multiple-cars-set-ablaze-at-tesla-service-center-in-las-vegas-n2654003?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=slider[ ✘ ]
the taliban are religious radicals, and here in the US we already know who the ass-licking thumpers support ...
And the left is acting just like them. Trying to enforce an ideology through terrorism.
yeah, that US constitution and rule of law sure is a radical ideology to christo-fascists ...
I never said any thing about religion. Yet you seem to be stuck on tit.
Where in the Constitution does it say it is Ok to burn and destroy private property when a leftist becomes butt and feelings hurt?
It doesn't affect Musk at all, but it harms dealerships and owners of Tesla's, working people the left pretends to care about.
And their silence on it is very telling.
It affected him to the tune of $900 Billion...
They are recalling 46,096 out of the 38,965 sold.
In the auto industry parlance, that is a 100% recall.
The only units not recalled are the test vehicles with no serial numbers which will never be sold.
First it was the "grille covers coming partially free, now the door panels are falling off. It's no laughing matter, just another short cut gone wrong.
In 2024, fully 21% of all recalls were from Tesla which only sells 4.2% of registered vehicles on the road.
In 2024 the Cybertrucks were recalled for defective Instrument panel, back up camera issue, interior trim, inoperable wiper motors, accelerator pedal sticking, loss of Power and now "unscheduled exterior panel separation".
Well to borrow from SpaceX, "unscheduled disassembly" recall.
Working folk can't afford to buy a Tesla.
Rich folk buy Teslas (and they have been junk)
Cool that not even billionaires want one now.
Musk has alienated both rich and poor.
I watched a video of a couple critiquing their Tesla which they love to drive, but admit, the service is horrible, parts availability is iffy, and the husband, who is in the business, flat out said that if you want quality buy a KIA or a Hyundai which have far surpassed Tesla's original lead.
We have no proof of who's burning what! So don't try to set the narrative that's inappropriate! There could be some GOPers who are angry over the mess that is being made of their lives and the lives of family members because Elon musk decided to put himself in the driver's seat of their fates.
It wasn't the smartest thing that a billionaire could do to put himself on front street then start mocking pain ed people with a chainsaw. That's taunting.
Really? Did you not read the links in #4. Of course you didn't.
That's hilarious coming from you.
I don't know that red state or town hall should be the ones taking the lead on this topic with language such as "left-wing ist lunatics" and such. But I digress.
Seems the doj is going to try to blame someone because it just announced that they've arrested three people so we shall see what comes of it this. So watch the space!
But I wouldn't trust red State or town hall farther than I could throw them both.
As far as said in the narrative, if that's what you consider me doing, I'm okay with that. Because I try to choose the good narrative and to be faithful to the truth not just as I perceive it, but as it serves all of us.
So you didn't. And you expect to be taken seriously?
Aggressive, I see. Well, that does not work with me. As it is I have read Townhall and Red State materials over the years. . . for your information. . . I glanced the articles you shared. But I get bogged down in the 'soggy rhetoric' that seeks to be (brutally insulting to the readers on purpose, ie, the abuse and overuse of language that is tacky, aggressive, and SUPERFLOUS). I don't have to 'take' that so. . .I leave it and let it lie where it 'rests.'
Link to something that assumes the reader is reasonable. . . and the 'undertaking' will be less an ordeal just to ingest what is being 'shared,' and the message may be received without suspicion. But it is just more opinion plied with additional opinions (or some such activities) I don't want to feel my head with it. . . as I said. . . I don't have to and so I won't. So I don't.
Consider sharing neutral sourcing. . . not 'heavily' partisan writers who read like they have a large chip on their shoulder. . . when replying to me. . . and yes, I will take my own advice and do the same with you.
Now quote something I said.
Well, don't take the advice/suggestion/well-intentioned statement. . . continue political 'combat' (entrenchment). Depending on the day, circumstance, or 'instance' I will take it or leave it - as will you. Now that we hopefully have an 'understanding' - I choose to move back into the center of discussion.
or take the advice of somebody who can't get a quote correct.
Trump and Musk are hard core fascists who are attempting to destroy democracy.
[✘] Enemies both foreign and domestic.
I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
Is that why the left carried out assassination attempts?
The left has registered Republicans?
How cute. You didn't pay attention.
I paid attention to the first shooter’s official political registration. Did you?
Yeah, do better.
How confusing. You are admitting that a registered Republican attempted to assassinate Trump while claiming it was “the left”. Do you know your right from left?
I'm telling you that you didn't pay attention.
We can do this all day. The first shooter was a REGISTERED REPUBLICAN. You can have alternative opinions, but you can’t have alternative facts.
It would be a far better thing if DOGE failed ... Tesla is not the prize and neither are its 120,000 employees.
That is a fair conclusion , but this may be a case where the bathwater cannot be thrown out without having it effect the baby. He made himself so synonymous with his company that their fate may be inextricably entwined. In other words Musk cannot be personally diminished as a force butting into our national priorities without taking tesla down with him.
Nah, he should just sell his interest in the companies that do business with the government.
At this particular point in time many people who oppose what he is doing IN government think that the only way to effect him is to hurt his businesses.
While it may not be preferable, neither is it a wild idea imo.
I think Musk could quit doge today and still never get back those who are appalled by what he has done. Ever.
of course. The damage these people are doing to the fabric of this country is immeasurable.
Calling out the fraud and waste is damage?
Are you sure he's calling out fraud and waste? Because usually you have to be trained to do that. What is his training in government of efficiency? Has he had training in government efficiency? As you no, the public sector is not the private sector on purpose.
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Why should DOGE fail? What's your reasoning?
Most Americans support what Trump and Musk are doing
Why should DOGE fail? What's your reasoning?
Because it is finding left wing cash funneling to democrat coffers. Democrats don’t like that
The (un)intended consequences of using a raging bullshitter with a chainsaw to reorganize the china shop for starters.
There are polls and then there are polls ...
DOGE is just a hack/slash, burn it down operation so far. It has not made any effort to even try to understand where it is cutting, but instead just cut. And, it started cutting right where it could make the most damage. As a country, we have worked for many years to bolster our image as a helpful, caring country. The way that other countries will view us now is as a hard and unforgiving nation who plays on the notion of zero-sum. Trump and Musk are transactional gangsters, not realizing that they are killing the golden goose.
Not entirely, for some DOGE-ers it's a GoFundMe grift.
Good. What makes this funnier is that it's not allowing anybody hide what they are doing with taxpayer money. Maybe that's why the Democrats and the left are crying over this so much. They can't hide it any longer.
I can assure you that if Trump took the easy way and did this slowly, it would take years and by the time anything is actually cut, there might be, God forbid, a democrat elected who would do nothing but put all the spending, and more, back in place.
Having a government job is not a guarantee of lifelong employment, or at least it should not be look as that and cushy at the same time.
I guess that depends on how you define, "many" and polls are not suitable for everything. Season
she's auditioning to become the next illegitimate baby mama for elon, since she heard it pays for the rent and groceries ...
You are so busy thinking bout how you can stuff the weenies, that you are not looking out on how they are going to stuff you in 2026.
Bullshit! Most Americans abhor what Trump and Musk are doing TO America. Only [✘] believe Trump when he says "all americans" think "something".
Nothing explains tim Walz better then him bragging about teslas Stock falling with his own state funds owning hundreds of millions of dollars with it, just a crazy zealot willing to hurt the people he’s supposed to look out for just to make himself feel better about losing.
Tim Walz is a coward who abandoned his men when they were being deployed.
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Absolutely. Hopefully Musk loses his ass on his robot venture as well. He had it all then took one too many hits of acid or something and lost every ounce of respect the world had for him. Now it’s just magatards supporting him.
I believe his recreational drug of choice is ketamine.
Funny how some folks support a drug-addicted unelected former illegal immigrant having this much power over our country.
Don’t forget about the copious amounts of weed.
I smoke weed myself, but only a little at the end of the day. If I ever inhaled enough to produce that face and that much smoke I’d say I may have a problem with it.
So you can't really cry about his use then.
lol. Can you read? There’s a difference between a puff and a blunt that fills the room with clouds of smoke.
I've never smoked before.
I was always afraid I would end up leaning left.
Thank God that never happened.
There is nobody in this forum who could benefit more from a weed gummy than you.
Don't care.
You wouldn’t know the difference so your opinion is wholly irrelevant.
What part of my comment did you not understand?
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an unlabeled candy dish full of them ...
Nope...
Not an idiot
Yea. I don't either.
I have zero respect for anyone that smokes weed.
Sure you don’t.
Opinions vary.
Who gives a shit ?
You opined.
You must
His face looks that way because he is smoking a spliff: a cigar wrapper on a joint fashioned out of questionable materials. he is old enough to know much better
I feel the same way about any vet or active service person that supports trumpski ...
He smokes weed??? I thought his best friend hated "druggies"
for the record I don't consider someon smoking some pot every now and then a druggie
He smoked a giant blunt on Joe Rogan's podcast...
Show him the pics of Kid Rock drinking it after supposedly boycotting it. When his dubious heroes can drink it, surely he can, too.
it's probably on tap at his rock and roll star failure bar ...
$18 for two Coors Lights, Jack Daniels automatically comes as doubles $20.00 apiece, long waits for drinks and food.
Live rock and Roll Band with requisite girls going around with buckets asking for tips for the band
and approximately one bouncer for every 10 patrons looking in shock at the food menu prices.
Recommend Tootsies or even Jelly Roll
... uh, no thanks. he'll always be the talent-less kid suck in my opinion. he belongs with lauren blowbert ...
Wow, MAGA feelings were offended and so "Rock" took his song and his people and went home. Just eff it- okay.
A long list of right wing boycotts seem to think so.
Freedom Fries, and every company that sold "Pride" merchandise were on the right wing cancel list.
The vandalism is wrong. However people showing up on sidewalks protesting with signs is as American as apple pie.
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It gets real old watching these overly-simplistic, stupid stereotypes. Seems some walk around with an absurdly naive notion that all 'the left' (aka those to the left of the individual) think and act the same. That anything done or believed by someone to their left is always wrong. It is childishly naive.
Some do the same thing in terms of 'the right', but the overwhelming cases are people referring to 'the left' with ridiculous, simplistic, laughable exaggerations.
See 10.2.2
I have said it before but it bears repeating. Many on the left would be fine with th US going down the tubes if it meant Trump went down with it. They would rather see the country lose than see Trump succeed. Despicable.
I doubt that is true. It certainly isn't for me. But it spills a lot of blood, so I can see why you like it.
That is exactly what we are seeing right now.
"...Because he is dumber than I am..."
[removed] [✘] I bought an EV 3 years ago and specifically did not buy a Tesla because A) tesla maintenance seemed like a gigantic pain in the ass. B) the various recalls. C) I just never really liked Elon Musk.
We disagreed with a company’s values so we stopped buying their beer. The left disagreed with the CEO of a company, and they set cars on fire. We are not the same.
They don't seem to see a difference.
Some red states have gone as far as to pass laws that criminalized businesses. So yeah... let's just say that populism (whether it's left OR right) is as stupid as stupid gets.
Can you list those states and the laws passed to criminalize businesses?
Both sides of the spectrum would do better to have their members decide for themselves to move back into the 'safe middle' of politics. This political 'warfare' is discussing, and as is customary for 'warfare' waging it destroys lives, careers, suspends rules, is demoralizing, and it leaves out the children (onlookers as their future being pissed on by their elders fighting like cats and dogs).
If one is fighting, but the behavior is not for the good (of all) then it is just a big damn waste of time and effort. Essentially nothing or any lasting value or any lasting consequences come out of it. It's just EMOTIONAL "indulgence" by both sides. And then comes the return to the INEVITABLE meeting of the minds once again.
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Tesla is good for the nation (and the planet). Musk as an entrepreneur / visionary has been net good for the nation (and the planet).
Musk operating as a pseudo politician/government official/campaign funder is bad for the nation.
Musk is indirectly and in some places directly making clear that he is buying elections and putting conservatives in strategic places to control this nation. This is a free Nation and doesn't need any damn control from one party locked in place at the top by money of the wealthy. What's next? He's going to start paying off judges to rule his way?
Our country is being bought by the highest bidders and we better wake our butts up before transactional leaders are all we have.
President Musk is suffering from megalomania.
President Trump is suffering from old age rage; has moments where he cannot read from a teleprompter, called Sant Patrick a
"patriot saint", fell up the stairs on Marine One the other day, tripped over sandbags at an Air Force event and fell to his knees
and reportedly has bruised hands from falling.
Can you imagine what the news would be reporting about the previous President?
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funny how republican voters always seem to end up with what they think they're voting against ...
Which isn't to say that Tesla owners love to hate their cars. They love the technology and the overnight software updates that can make the Tesla run better than new again. They have their drawbacks in battery performance especially temperature related and supercharger availability and performance
They accept all of that. What they are also livid about is that the general market place won't take a Tesla in for any kind of service
and simple issues like a broken door lok or broken taillight lens may take weeks or months to get fixed.
Tesla was severely over valued, buoyed by SpaceX and Twitter and Musk. The Market is correcting that
and the Tesla owners on the fence because of lousy service have every right to express their displeasure by trading in their Tesla's before their value tanks even further.
The used Tesla market is crumbling | CNN Business
I like what Elon did in pushing EVs, past that fuck him.
I raced one thru the mountains 6 or 7 years ago. they have unbelievable acceleration, but I think they're ugly as hell ...
Yes and no. First of all no, because I feel for the actual workers who would be fucked by the company tanking. But yes because I would love nothing more than to see the fortunes of people like Elon be turned to ash. They are useless cunts.
Over 100 comments on this seeded article re: whether or not people want Tesla to fail!
Hmmmm . . .
From today's news:
Ines Ferré · Senior Business Reporter
There are several phrases heard often on "The Street". One is:
Past performance is not indicative of future results
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Capitalism. Tesla has a board of directors. If they keep Musk in place, they demonstrate approval of his behavior. If potential customers stay away because of that behavior, the board is responsible.
Capitalism. Actions have consequences.