The scandal that wasn't
Link to quote: Donald Trump Reveals How Signal Group Chat Leak Happened
About a week ago one of the most discredited liars in the msm somehow was added to a group chat in which senior Cabinet officials discussed airstrikes on Houthi terrorists in Yemen. The individual was Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic and creator of hoaxes and lies about Donald Trump. Goldberg sat on the information he got from the meeting for about a week until President's Trump's intelligence chiefs were scheduled to appear in front of a Senate Committee. Then he dumped the story and Senate democrats used it to grill Trump's intel leaders.
The left has made much of this though the app was encrypted and allowed by the CIA. It was a conversation between members of cabinet members concerning the attack on the Houthis, which was totally successful. No secrets were lost, and the administration just got a wakeup call. The President said his National Security Advisor just learned a valuable lesson.
Last night Laura Ingraham asked National Security Advisor Michael Waltz how it could be that somebody like Goldberg had his number included in the call. Waltz kept saying that another number must have led to his number. Ingraham persisted saying that it was incredible that his number would be included, but Waltz said he trusted his staff and he takes full responsibility:
"I take full responsibility. I built the group," Waltz said on "The Ingraham Angle" Tuesday. "It's embarrassing. We're going to get to the bottom of it."
"I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but of all the people out there. Somehow this guy – who has lied about the president, who has lied to Gold Star families, lied to their attorneys and gone to Russia hoax, gone to just all kinds of lengths to lie and smear the president of the United States – and he's the one that somehow gets on somebody's contact and then gets sucked into this group."
NSA Mike Waltz takes responsibility for 'embarrassing' Signal chat leak | Fox News
Hopefully "Big Balls" is getting to the bottom of how Goldberg was in on the call. There is almost zero chance that it was an accident.
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It appears that the devious Jeff Goldberg overpromised and underdelivered.
There is an old adage I recall: "If you lose your money, you lost something. If you lose your health, you lost a lot. But if you lose your integrity, you've lost everything."
Goldberg lost his integrity long ago.
they broke the law as soon as they signed onto on the signal app in an official capacity.
it's also evident that they're lying when they stray off topic into what about territory during the hearings ...
And With That Exchange, This Atlantic Story Is Dead
There was no classified information discussed.
I believe that Hegseth would be the one to classify information on this subject, so I think we can believe that no classified information was discussed. But it was sensitive information none the less. Had the Houthis had the information on what aircraft were going to be overhead at what time, the results could have been different. Doesn't the federal government have a better process for encrypting text messages than to use an open source system for this?
But the full text messages released today do recognize an issue that I pointed out years ago. If we ever heard the behind-closed-doors discussion of any administration, some would be very upset to hear how they talk about supposed friends. Just reinforces the saying that countries do not have friends, they have interests.
next up for maga, throwing a rug over the rocky mountains, and then claiming they never existed ...
I've heard something along those lines.
This just came in: The same Obama judge that got the lawsuit on deporting the Venezuelan gang members, was assigned to preside over a lawsuit alleging that Trump cabinet secretaries and national security aides violated federal record-keeping laws when they used a Signal chat group to discuss a planned military strike in Yemen.
What a coincidence!!!!
same criminal/traitor POTUS, same federal judge. I guess the judge was available to start another trial due to the simplicity of the previous case where a demented moron actually thought he could endrun due process guaranteed by the constitution.
Four times.
time to cue the maga circle jerk of outrage ...
Seems the left and Democrats are on "Rinse and repeat" mode for fabricated nonsense.
This is Nazi Germany level lying.
John Kelly specifically said that everything Goldberg wrote about Trump saying "suckers and losers" was true. Kelly was the source and he should know what was said.
Nothing can stop MAGA from lying and the country is now paying a severe price.
I notice that you don't have any links.
I notice you dont have a leg to stand on.
There again: Kelly can't give us the quote. We never see Kelly anywhere specifically telling us that he heard Trump say it.
So, it is still bogus.
LOL. Kelly is quoted in the story I just linked.
Like I said, Nazi Germany level lying goes on here every day.
Kelly has never appeared anywhere to make the Trump QUOTE available and to STAND BEHIND what Goldberg got him to go along with.
Jeffery Goldberg didnt lie about anything or hoax anything. He reported what John Kelly told him, and later Kelly CONFIRMED it.
I'd ask you to stop but I know that is not possible with you guys.
Goldberg made that story up. We also recall the pushback he got on the Vanessa Guillen story.
For those who forgot, Vanessa was a 20-year-old army private. She was murdered at Fort Hood. Trump invited her family to the Oval Office in July of 2020. Goldberg made an issue out of whether Trump paid for the funeral.
Guillén sister posted on Twitter, ‘Wow, I don’t appreciate how you’re exploiting my sister’s death for politics. Hurtful and disrespectful to the important changes she made for service members.’ And she noted that she voted for Donald Trump.
Take down your ridiculous avatar.
Don't you understand what he did there?
He is backing hearsay.
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HE'S THE ONE WHO SAID IT !
Try your bamboozling on some of your compadres here, the rest of us know better.
No, it was attributed to him, and he has been very ambiguous about it.
Do you have proof that Kelly, on video, confirmed this?
Kinda like the 51 "intelligence" officials and the fake claims of the Hunter Biden laptop.
Only a couple of them have come out publicly, on video, saying what they signed they believed was true.
Did he say he personally heard it?
LOL.
John can can get quoted saying “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them” and it’s just as much confirmation of trump actually saying it. All you actually take from the quote is that Kelly apparently believes trump said it, Kelly never actually says “when I was with trump at x, he said y”
if trump actually said this to Kelly, do you think kelly would keep quiet and keep serving trump?
Tell us what lie Goldberg told.
You cant.
He reported what he was told by others. In your article you called Goldberg one of the biggest liars in the MSM. Based on what ? Trumps denial? ROFL.
Kelly should have appeared for an on air video , but even that wouldnt have satisfied the MAGA lunatics.
That isn't a reporter. A true journalist VERIFIES what he hears!
Kelly's name was attached to allegations about Trump. He could have easily said "I never said that about trump", but he didnt , he confirmed it.
Kelly's confirmation actually vindicates Goldberg and shows the original article was neither a lie or a hoax. I honestly dont know why I interact with the garbage on this three or four times a week page. Maybe I will learn my lesson one day
So he did ZERO research. He's no better than a standard blogger. No wonder the left loves him so much.
That is correct, however, I saw a leftist talking point memo during the first Trump term that specifically stated that heresay, opinions and whispers in the ear were to be taken as fact.
Seems like that memo is still in effect.
I also recall those who demanded activism over journalism.
It really is exhausting dealing with abject morons or the intentionally obtuse on a daily basis. You can take a moron to knowledge, but you can't make them think. You have to remember, these are folk who have decided to reject facts and reality all in the name of a beloved brand, the Trump brand, and there simply isn't anything anyone can say that will make them give up their brand.
They're like those whackos on American Pickers that they run into every now and then who are obsessed with Disney or Coca Cola and have every kitschy nick knack and sign, mirror or oversized telephone that their favorite brand ever sold. You can't expect to talk someone like that out of their weird obsession.
And clearly these folks are obsessed with Donald Trump who they believe can do no wrong, and even if he does something wrong, his sycophants claim he meant to do it and it was really a good thing and everyone else is crazy. But not their Donald, no sir, not their Dear Leader, everything he touches turns to gold in their minds. Sure, it's spray-painted gold and has zero substance, but his supporters just gobble it up like it's mana from heaven.
So yes, interacting with the garbage is mostly futile and pointless. Mostly. But then again, when the rational world stops calling out the bullshit, the bullshit wins.
John Kelly specifically said that everything Goldberg wrote about Trump saying "suckers and losers"
no he didn’t. He’s never said he actually heard him say it. All he’s done is what you have, said trump said it which means he can be relying only hearsay just like you.
A journalist of integrity, morals and ethics would have backed out of the chat and let someone there know he was mistakenly added to it.
I guess when you work for a third rate blog, you do anything you can to get your name and face out there.
Instead, he released it just before Trump's intel officials were about to answer questions from the US Senate. Now he will likely leak out info in a steady drip, drip to try and hurt Trump. This has been Goldberg's MO.
That's the key. Goldberg isn't one of them. His, and his bloggers histories are proof of that.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott has hit back at left-wing Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett after she mocked his use of a wheelchair, claiming the Democrats have “nothing to sell but hate.”
The firebrand Texas Rep. was slammed after she branded Abbott “Governor Hot Wheels” on Saturday during a Human Rights Campaign Dinner in Los Angeles.
Abbott, who has used a wheelchair since 1984 when a tree fell on his back in a freak accident, brushed aside Crockett’s nasty jibe in an appearance on Fox News’ “Hannity” late on Tuesday.
“It’s another day and another disaster by the Democrats. The reality is they have no vision, no policy. They have nothing to sell but hate, and Americans are not buying it,” he told host Sean Hannity. “It’s one reason why Texas is going to remain red.”
Greg Abbott slams Jasmine Crockett for wheelchair 'hot wheels' comment
As we saw play out yesterday, almost all progressives will say it’s okay because abbot a republican. Their whole worldview is framed around enforcing different rules for republicans.
They defend every hoax.
Lordy - someone’s got the vapors!
An entire political party.
And republilcans would NEVER EVER have different rules for themselves???
Whataboutism is no defense Y'all.
Funny stuff that. That eliminates about 90% of the comments hereabouts.
Especially among those who have adopted the language they once claimed to despise.
Case in point…
That is an odd admission.
Someone doesn't understand what's happening.
I don't care what Crockett said. She should resign for being an idiot, not for being crass. What's funny is the progressives who get so mad at Trump for mocking people turn around and defend this and claim it shouldn't even be criticized. That hypocrisy astounds me. I don't know how the people who condemn Trump defend Crockett without their heads exploding from the cognitive dissonance. The total lack of shame and willingness to prostitute themselves for a political party is astounding.
But go right ahead, make fun of Abbott needing a wheelchair. I won't stop you. But I'll laugh at you when you go into hysterics overTrump.
Did the same Democrats who furiously attacked Trump for that now defend Crockett or not?
That hypocrisy astounds me.
As I have pointed out before, hypocrisy is your most favorite favorite word, and you use it with zealous abandon. So often that it loses any sense of appropriateness. Your comparisons are like apples and basketballs. Fix that and maybe someone will take you seriously.
Are the same republicans who are furiously attacking Crockett now defended Trump or not?
Nope, no whataboutism at all. Just evidence pointing out the hypocritical nature of right winger outrage.
Because it's such a target rich environment. Many progressives can't go 24 hours without directly contradicting what they claimed the day before.
maybe someone will take you seriously
If the "Trump didn't win the first debate with Biden" crowd doesn't take me seriously, that's fine with me.
What's hilarious it that the blogger site editor-in-chief actually said:
He took it so seriously that the texts were released.
Correct.
If he knowingly released information that he believed to be classified, wouldn't that be an act of treason.
If they were classified. Despite the crying from the left, turns out nothing in those texts are classified.
This Jasmine Crockett brouha is rich. I wouldnt describe Greg Abbott in that way but there is an astounding amount of precedence for that kind of talk. By the middle of Trumps first term he had already insulted over 600 people, by name, in his presidential social media. Maybe Crockett wants to be like Trump. Isnt that supposed to be a good thing?
Yet again, we have proof the only objection to Trump’s behavior is that he has an r next to his name. There’s no actual principle behind most progressives objections.
“Instead of obsessing over and hanging on to my every word, maybe my political foes should focus on doing the work of the people who elected us to improve their lives,” Crockett said.
Gee, who would obsess and hang onto every word?
It's really no different that the Trump "brouha". You all demanded an apology from Trump. Don't be a hypocrite and not demant one from her.
The Atlantic just published what it once called the "war plan:"
Byron York (@ByronYork) / X
Didn't Goldberg say something along the line of not doing anything to hurt the US?
I guess it doesn't matter who gets hurt as long as it may hurt Trump.
Quoted in #5. But who actually takes a blogger seriously?
Today is March 26, the raid happened on March 15. You write as if Goldberg rushed to the presses. Not only did he wait but he was told there were no secrets.
I thought you were better than this ...
Everyone who links to X.
why
I'm testing alternate depths of subtle insults?
Third sentence in my article:
Goldberg sat on the information he got from the meeting for about a week until President's Trump's intelligence chiefs were scheduled to appear in front of a Senate Committee.
Now live on Fox News:
House Intel Committee on worldwide threats.
Ah Goldberg planned it well.
"I wasn’t thinking about the governor’s condition—I was thinking about the planes, trains, and automobiles he used to transfer migrants into communities led by Black mayors, deliberately stoking tension and fear among the most vulnerable." Jasmine Crockett
She's now lying to your faces Democrats. You know she's lying. She knows you know she's lying but will sit and take it nicely. That's the super lie, a lie so brazen it acts as a mark of power, because she knows her Democratic audience will submit, even though everyone knows its a lie.
I don't see how this one will survive a court challenge. As I understand it, states are responsible for the management of the election process. While the federal government does have some responsibility, the bulk of ownership is on the states.
The tempest in the Yemeni dallah is actually three separate stories.
First, there was a serious security breach but that has nothing to do with what the group discussed. Had the group been discussing office furniture, the security breach would not have been less severe. Somebody's head has to roll for this screw up.
Second, the use of Signal for such communication provides another bit of evidence that a 'Deep State' really does exist. The intelligence community utilizing communication channels outside of oversight should ring an alarm bell or two. Jeffery Goldberg supposedly being accidentally included in the group discussion indicates how closely the intelligence community works with main stream media. The fact the Goldberg could be inadvertently included raises questions about how much propaganda and psyops has been embedded in what the public ingests as news reports.
Thirdly, what Jeffrey Goldberg did wasn't journalism. Goldberg was trying to create a news story that wasn't there. Goldberg wasn't just reporting the facts; Goldberg twisted those facts to publish and disseminate his opinions as news. And those opinions were either based on Goldberg's own ignorance or were designed to intentionally mislead an ignorant audience.
Very good Nerm.
I am going to think over your 1st point.
Waltz has offered his, let's see how far it rolls uphill and if/when the President-est fires his arse y'all will surely do a triple axel and dump on him.
“…do a triple axel…”
…more than likely let him skate…
Has Waltz actually claimed he screwed up? Or has Waltz claimed the responsibility for correcting the screw up?
If you count bunting, both.
truth as sarcasm, nicely done ...
Final Note:
How Jeff Goldberg got into a confidential approx. 15-person group chat we may never know. Some may think there is a mole somewhere in the Trump security team. When I listened to National Security Advisor Michael Waltz the other night, he was willing to accept ultimate responsibility, and he told Laura Ingraham that he was sure that no one in his staff was responsible. That leads to the question of whether Waltz trusted Goldberg? That would really be strange.
As for Goldberg who claims he didn't know how he was allowed in, he told nobody that he was in on something that he shouldn't be. He had no security clearance. What Goldberg did was to listen in stealthily since March 15 waiting for a big scoop or a chance to embarrass the Trump administration. He thought the attack on the Houthis was it. Unfortunately for him, the attack was very successful, and the entire Trump intelligence organization is now a lot wiser.
I know that many on the left are very excited, but the "story" only lasted 48 hours.
"Good night and good luck."
he was invited. why would he ask why he was invited? as a media person, why wouldn't he assume he was there in that capacity?
how many trump supporters so far have claimed that there was no classified information involved in the group chat, despite the CIA's request that mr goldberg withhold the release of a segment of the "not classified" chat that mr goldberg then complied with?
isn't listening what media people are supposed to be doing? I didn't see a Q & A session for media on that group chat.
maybe it was pure luck, or due to the limited amount of any warning times or the ability for the opposition to react due to time and distances involved if intercepted.
hopefully, and exponentially, based upon the incredible and amateurish lapse of security displayed, this time ...
it still doesn't explain why trump cabinet officials are violating the law by avoiding the archiving of their meetings.
I really liked watching CO Rep jason crow, an army ranger vet with 3 combat tours in iraq/afghanistan bend tulsi gabbard over tho ...
it's a shot heard 'round the world in the intelligence communities, and the damage done will hurt the US long past the trumpski administration. and as far as embarrassing the trumpski administration, they don't seem to need too much help ...
Or he listened as any reporter would do and then decided NOT to release the information prior to the execution of the operation. Which correlates with the facts.
You presume Goldberg wanted the mission to fail (presumably with military casualties). Why? The Trump administration is embarrassed by its fundamental failure to follow national security protocols which makes them look like irresponsible amateurs (and that is likely the reality of it given Hegseth as the Secretary of Defense). No need for a mission to fail to achieve embarrassment if that was Goldberg's objective.
It is also possible that Goldberg's objective was to blow the whistle on a very dangerous practice which compromises our national security. If so, you should be applauding the man.
That is obviously not true. Golberg has a long history of radical activism. To claim his actions had anything to do with journalism or public service is laughable.
the Trump administration is embarrassed by its fundamental failure to follow national security protocols which makes them look like irresponsible amateurs (and that is likely the reality of it given Hegseth as the Secretary of Defense).
This is not something that is unique to the Trump administration. The proper way to handle anything that requires secrecy is in secured rooms, where it’s very difficult for foreign powers to penetrate them. You can’t bring your personal devices into these rooms, which are not connected to the web. The problem is that when there are 15 officials that you want in on the conversation and some are in different countries, it is impossible to do that.
It is also possible that Goldberg's objective was to blow the whistle on a very dangerous practice which compromises our national security.
No, that is not a possibility.
However, I am fairly certain that the Signal Chat system (used under Biden and ok'd by the CIA) is now dead.
It is clearly true. He did in fact listen and did not release any information until after the operation had concluded.
Wrong. The government has myriad methods to secure communication remotely. And in the situation where the envoy is unprepared (e.g. cannot even create a portable SCIF, secured tent, or access a secured network (e.g. SIPRNet or JWICS) with a secured device) and cannot relocate to a SCIF, then the operative should NOT PARTICIPATE.
You should know that anyone who makes that statement is logically wrong. Don't rule out every possibility. That is absurd.
It is also cynical as hell to think that Goldberg is not interested in helping to prevent a major security breach like this from happening again.
What does Trump or his administration have to do before you will recognize fault?
“…used under Biden…”
….another tired excuse that only displays a continuous, née perpetual, lack of understanding and acceptance of the facts.
Since you brought it up, we never experienced such a serious display of ineptitude under the previous administration now, did we?
Using the same medium, evidence points to the fact that we were one communication away. You know, the oft-approved and used medium of the previous administration.
Of course not, Biden would have never sent special operators to free hostages held by Hamas and then post their pictures with their faces and tattoos displayed for the entire world to see putting their lives at risk in a war zone.......Right?
White House posts – then deletes – photo outing special operators working to free Hamas hostages
“You know, the oft-approved and used medium of the previous administration.”
And yet, the fact remains the people in charge had the wherewithal to assure that the communications were not, inconceivably, sent to an unofficial recipient.
Or to keep it in the same vein, you know releasing information about an aerial attack, of course Biden wasn't as inept....right?
WATCH: White House addresses U.S. investigation into leak of Israel’s classified Iran attack plan | PBS News
Before it happened of course.
Makes me wonder:
Who got fired?
If the same folks outraged over the signal chat were as outraged over the pictures release that truly could have put lives in danger.
I wonder what ever became of that investigation, or was it put in the same pile as the Coke in the Whitehouse investigation?
I don't think Hunter leaked the info.
The Afghanistan withdrawal?
An AWOL Defense Secretary?
Biden was lucky he was dealing with timid Republicans.
Not even remotely close.
You seem to ignore that this buffoon:
And that is just off the top of my head ... and Trump is just getting started.
Do not speak of gross incompetence. Trump not only is the most prolific liar of our times, but he has shown himself to be arguably the most incompetent PotUS we have ever had. Certainly the worst in our lifetimes.
I hope so.
Another fine demonstration of ignoring all of Trump's bad decisions and incompetence.
... and yet every news organization is still front paging it.
Maybe he meant it will get its own 48 hours special...