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The MAGA Backlash Arrives

  

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Via:  hallux  •  yesterday  •  64 comments

By:   The Editorial Board - WSJ

The MAGA Backlash Arrives

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


Democrats solidified their 4-3 progressive majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court on Tuesday, and the ramifications are nationwide. The comfortable win by Democratic Judge   Susan Crawford   is the second sign in two weeks of a political backlash against the Trump Presidency.

Democrats turned out in large numbers to defeat Republican Judge   Brad Schimel   in a race in which the two sides may have spent as much as $100 million. Democrats sought to make the race a referendum on   Elon Musk   and   Donald Trump , and Mr. Musk responded by trying to mobilize the Trump voters who tend to stay home in spring elections. The Democratic bet paid off.


That’s a warning to the GOP that the Trump-Musk governing style is stirring a backlash that could cost them control of Congress next year. All the more so given the results in two special House races in Florida Tuesday to replace a pair of Republicans.

These are safe seats, and Republicans won the western Panhandle district held by   Matt Gaetz   with some room to spare. But   Jimmy Patronis’s 57% was about nine points less than the 66% that Mr. Gaetz won in 2024. It was a similar story in the Palm Coast seat of former Rep.   Mike Waltz, who is now Mr. Trump’s national security adviser.

Democrats had a better candidate, but the swing to Democrats was about nine points from Mr. Waltz’s 66.5% vote share in 2024 to state Sen.   Randy Fine’s roughly 57% on Tuesday. Democrats are fired up to make a statement about Mr. Trump’s polarizing second term. Last week they   flipped a Pennsylvania state Senate seat   long held by the GOP.

Republicans can console themselves that they held the Florida seats and thus their narrow House majority. And we hope the results don’t scare House Republicans into backing away from their tax and regulatory reform agenda. That’s what Democrats would love, so next year they’d get the benefit both ways—motivated Democrats and sullen Republicans after a GOP governing failure.

But the elections are a warning to Mr. Trump to focus on what got him re-elected—especially prices and growth in real incomes after inflation. His willy-nilly tariff agenda undermining stock prices and consumer and business confidence isn’t helping.

As for Wisconsin, Republicans in that state will now have to live with a willful Supreme Court majority that could reverse nearly everything the GOP accomplished under former Gov.   Scott Walker. School vouchers, collective-bargaining reform for public workers, tort reform and more are likely to be challenged in lawsuits by the left. Congressional district electoral maps will also be challenged and could cost the GOP two House seats.

The MAGA majority may have a shorter run than advertised.


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Hallux
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1  seeder  Hallux    yesterday

Judge Susan Crawford is one shrew that will not be tamed.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hallux @1    yesterday

Lots of Shakespeare quotes these days,

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1.1  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    yesterday

Biblical quotes seem to irritate people. Will-i-am is my goto Cunk.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    21 hours ago
Lots of Shakespeare quotes these days,

There are indeed. And perhaps there should be less...

But OTOH,  alls well that ends well!  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @1.1.2    21 hours ago

LOL

 
 
 
Thomas
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2  Thomas    yesterday

I think that the more important take-away from this is that the margins that Trump was touting when he claims the "Mandate of the People" whilst wrecking our institutions in favor of thugocracy are nowhere near as large as he has claimed, and the people he needs to convince are already saying "Hey, Wait! We didn't say you were king."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Thomas @2    yesterday

Trump won Wisconsin by a single point. There were people right here who said it was just about impossible for Schimel to win. This isn't a backlash. It is the elite class trying to hold out.

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.1  evilone  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    yesterday
This isn't a backlash. It is the elite class trying to hold out.

Polling shows 60% of Wisconsin independents have an unfavorable opinion of Trump. That number jumps up to almost 80% when talking about Musk & DOGE. Trump and Co just need to keep doing what they are doing until next year's midterms.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.2  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    yesterday

You can stick a chainsaw into someone's hand and it still won't make him blue collar. Musk is about as elite as one can be.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    yesterday

They were always going to lose this election no matter what Trump did.  I'm surprised people don't get this yet. Low turnout, mid term elections are bad for the party perceived to be in power, especially when their voter base consists of lower propensity voters. Republicans traded old and upper income voters for gains among younger, working class and minority voters. It paid off in presidential election years, particularly when Trump is on the ballot. It doesn't when turnout is lower and the opposition's reason to exist is to hate Trump. 

Midterms, absent a Kavanaugh like gift, will be bad for Republicans.  It doesn't matter what Trump does for the next year and half. There's no backlash or anything else. It's just math. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @2.1.1    yesterday

funny how he calls the democrats the elites....

What is trmp and musk if not elites? Both were born with platinum spoons in their mouths

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    yesterday

You called it before it happened.

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.1.6  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    yesterday
This isn't a backlash. It is the elite class trying to hold out.

It would be nice to talk with someone who understood the meanings of words. "Elite" is another of the words that reactionaries are busily making meaningless. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Thomas @2.1.6    yesterday
Dictionary
Definitions from   Oxford Languages   ·   Learn more
e·lite
/ iˈlēt , āˈlēt /
noun
"a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society"
And as we have seen, there is a shitload of that attitude among certain groups. Remember "they vote against their own best interests" bullshit and GovCo knowing whats good for us instead of leaving it to us to decide. THAT is elite, and I doubt it will die the death of the race and misogyny cards so oft used by many of those on the left side of the aisle.
 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1.8  Bob Nelson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.7    yesterday
a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society

So... someone who just thinks they're superior... does not conform to this definition; is not elite.

According to your definition (with which I agree), a person is or is not "elite" according to objective criteria. "Elite" is not a word that anyone can just assign to anyone else.

Paul Krugman can be termed "elite" because he won a Nobel Prize, for example. A Nobel is an objective criterion.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.8    23 hours ago

I guess you missed the whole point..........Well don't really have to guess. It's an attitude. Reread my comment and see if you can make the connection to the know it all faction.

someone who just thinks they're superior... does not conform to this definition; is not elite.

Yes it does.................if they think it, they believe it and play it out. You know, like the whole gender fluidity thing. If there is a difference, it sure as hell isn't shown. Look at the "squad". Know it alls.[]

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1.10  Bob Nelson  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.9    22 hours ago

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Thomas
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2.1.11  Thomas  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.7    22 hours ago

So, according to your feelings, Trump, Musk, et.al. are elites.

Got it.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.9    21 hours ago
see if you can make the connection to the know it all faction.

The "know-it-all" faction really just describes people that are educated. They are armed with facts and figures and perhaps they don't "know-it-all" but I'm sure it seems that way to the dumb shits who dropped out of high school because any additional education wasn't needed to work the coal mines or to get trained as a plumber.

So, it's no wonder that the know-nothings would be bitter towards the know-it-alls. The know nothings are just lazy and jealous which is also why they are desperately supporting the dumb shit-in-chief who makes even those with the poorest educations feel smart.

Personally, I'd much rather listen to and get advice from those who have quality educations and do know facts and figures, who have taken the time to study what humans have been able to learn about our universe over the centuries. But I guess there will always be lazy stupid bigots who ridicule those with far better educations, and those simpletons often like to refer to those they know are better educated than themselves as "know-it-alls". It's apparently the best insult their poorly educated brains can come up with.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.13  JBB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.12    21 hours ago

If Democrats are the educated know it alls now then what does that make the MAGA? The Plumb Dumb Faction? 

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.1.14  GregTx  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.12    21 hours ago

Personally, I think fuck off is a much better insult. But that's just probably my blue collar, poorly edumacated brains...

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.15  Krishna  replied to  Hallux @2.1.2    21 hours ago
Musk is about as elite as one can be.

IIRC he's actually the #1 richest man in the entire world.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.16  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    21 hours ago
It is the elite class

Who do you think is the "elite class"? 

(People have differing opinions on who's actually  a member of "the elite class").

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1.17  Bob Nelson  replied to  Krishna @2.1.15    20 hours ago

Being the richest man makes him a statistical outlier. In no way does it prove that he "is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society" - to repeat Jim's definition of "elite".

Musk, like Trump, got rich the way most rich people get rich: he was born to rich parents. That's not "elite".

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  GregTx @2.1.14    20 hours ago

I have no problem with blue-collar Americans. There's nothing to be ashamed of getting your hands dirty. However, when some blue-collar folk whine and complain and insult others by others by calling them "know-it-alls" when they are really just distinguished professors of economics and the sole winner of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, all because they don't like educated conclusions that don't align with their blue-collar math of "Trump Good! Merica!", then yes, they should indeed, fuck off.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.19  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @2.1.16    9 hours ago
Who do you think is the "elite class"? 

Example A: Columnist German Lopez (The New York Times). Yesterday he wrote a piece on the Trump tariffs. 

Get this:

"The United States no longer needs factories with low-skill workers to make clothes. It can instead invest more in advanced technologies like computers and pharmaceuticals. Those investments lead to jobs that pay better than traditional manufacturing work, making Americans richer.

Open trade then lets high-tech businesses sell their new products to billions of people worldwide instead of just hundreds of millions of Americans. With more customers, these companies make more money, and they can pour their profits into further innovation, well-paying jobs and higher taxes to the U.S. government. In theory, this process leaves the country as a whole better off.

Not everyone wins. Some manufacturing jobs go to China, Mexico and elsewhere. Communities that rely on those jobs suffer unless they find a way to adjust to the new economy."

That is an elitist who doesn't give a fuck about American workers.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.20  Trout Giggles  replied to  Thomas @2.1.11    8 hours ago

Isn't that what we've been saying?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.12    8 hours ago

My dad was a coal miner. He had a hs diploma but he spent his life reading anything he could get his hands on. You could say he was self-taught so he had a lot of things to say that I listened to.

Plumbers have to have at least a GED.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.22  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.19    8 hours ago

Let them learn how to code s/

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.23  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.21    2 hours ago
spent his life reading anything he could get his hands on. You could say he was self-taught so he had a lot of things to say that I listened to.

Like I said, nothing against blue collar workers, society couldn't get along without them. With that being true, even with some of them being "self-taught", I wouldn't want a coal miner no matter how wise, to perform invasive surgery on myself or my family nor would they be my trusted financial advisor or making the nation's most important economic decisions. I would prefer to have someone specialized in their respective fields who has the schooling and degrees along with proven history and body of work to support my trust that they're right for such an important job. Those stupidly trying to dismiss a distinguished professors of economics and the sole winner of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences by calling him a "know-it-all" is just beyond stupid and borders on criminal negligence as it seems they're intentionally trying to sabotage the economy.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.24  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.12    2 hours ago

Know it alls?    

I know few know it all that can plumb their house.    Who knows it all?

I know few know it alls capable of safely disposing of their weekly garbage.

I know few know it alls who wouldn’t kill themselves trying to wire their house

I know few know it alls who could build their office or house.    Etc, etc

Know it alls are overrated.    Who do you think you need more in every day life.    Your plumber or a brain surgeon?    That’s not even a question.    Don’t disagree until you go a few weeks without a shower, forage for fresh drinking water and shit in a straddle trench in your back yard.

Yeah, you know the answer but I’m sure you won’t admit it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.25  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.23    2 hours ago

Can't argue with anything you said. Dad was good at pulling out splinters but I wouldn't want him to set my broken leg

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Thomas @2    yesterday

He never had a mandate....except for Putin

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2    yesterday

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Snuffy
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3  Snuffy    yesterday

I think it's too early to put a pin in the midterms. As I recall, Schimel was always the underdog in that fight. But I wouldn't count the Republicans down for the count just yet as they did score another victory in Wisconsin. The requirement to show ID to vote won overwhelmingly to be enshrined in the State Constitution.

 
 
 
evilone
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3.1  evilone  replied to  Snuffy @3    yesterday
As I recall, Schimel was always the underdog in that fight.

The little polling that I could find had the race too close to call right up to election day. The only edge I could find was that Wisconsin independants leaned slightly towards Crawford and most of the state doesn't like Musk or DOGE. 

EDIT: I also saw some report that Dems were slightly more likely to vote in early elections than conservatives.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.2  Krishna  replied to  Snuffy @3    21 hours ago
The requirement to show ID to vote won overwhelmingly to be enshrined in the State Constitution.

I know Democrats who believe there's too much fraud, too many scammers around in general, and that ID should be shown in order to vote.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Krishna @3.2    8 hours ago

Yeah...I do think IDs should be presented when voting

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.2.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.1    4 hours ago

I've voted in France since the 1990s. I show my national ID card. I put the ballot in the box. (No machines.) The process has never taken more than a quarter-hour. Nationwide results are announced at 8:00 PM.

The ID card means "voter, no problem". That's a good thing.

Of course... There must be upstream processes that ensure that every citizen obtains that ID card... without hassle.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.2.2    4 hours ago
There must be upstream processes that ensure that every citizen obtains that ID card... without hassle.

absolutely!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4  Sparty On    yesterday

Another win for Golem.

256

Congrats

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Sparty On @4    yesterday

Soros got his win for 90% less than Musk, all you accomplished was elevating George far above Elon.

Time for one and all on the right to drop the anti-Soros gibberish less you be accused of antisemitism much in the way many of y'all accuse those on the left as being antiemetic whenever Netanyahu is criticised.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hallux @4.1    yesterday
Soros got his win for 90% less than Musk

Democrats have a deep bench of billionaires. So Soros, Pritzker and Reid Hoffman spent more than Musk in Wisconsin.    

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.1    16 hours ago

The denial is copious and quite ridiculous in this case.

Sad, sad, sad …..

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.1    13 hours ago
Soros, Pritzker and Reid Hoffman spent more than Musk in Wisconsin

What proof do you have of that?  Link to actual numbers.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.3    7 hours ago
Soros, Pritzker and Reid Hoffman spent more than Musk in Wisconsin

Crawford pulls in cash from George Soros, JB Pritzker

By contrast, Crawford has taken in almost twice that of her opponent, raising a record $26.6 million for the hotly contested election, the most ever in a judicial race in the U.S. (But conservative outside groups have raised more than liberal ones in the race,   as indicated by the TV buys in the contest .)

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.4    5 hours ago

An inconvenient truth for our friends on the left.

So they must engage their Gaslight drives.     Full power!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.4    5 hours ago

So much for their rants about billionaires being "bad".

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.1.7  Gsquared  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.4    3 hours ago

According to the link you supplied Soros gave $2 million , Pritzker gave $1.5 million .  Your link doesn't mention how much Reid Hoffman gave , but according to this link he gave less than Soros :

Meanwhile, again according to the number you supplied Musk gave at least $19.5 million .

Therefore, based on the actual numbers, including the numbers you supplied, Musk gave many times more than Soros, Pritzker and Reid Hoffman.  Accordingly, your own numbers prove that the comment that " Soros, Pritzker and Reid Hoffman spent more than Musk in Wisconsin" is fraudulent .  

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.1.8  Gsquared  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.5    3 hours ago

The truth is the exact opposite of what you claim it is.

Some right wingers are gaslighting in overdrive.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.8    3 hours ago

”I” claimed that Golem won and congratulated my friends on the left.    This just highlights to those who bag on Musk for donating to the conservative candidate while other billionaires donate heavily to the liberal candidate, are just rocking their usual hypocritical selves.

Rock on!

 
 
 
evilone
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4.2  evilone  replied to  Sparty On @4    yesterday
Another win for Golem.

And Musk was left with a class action suit for not paying canvassers. Hahahahaha!  

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  evilone @4.2    16 hours ago

I bet he’s real worried about bullshit like that

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.2  bugsy  replied to  evilone @4.2    8 hours ago
And Musk was left with a class action suit for not paying canvassers.

Yea....that will make him bankrupt s/

 
 
 
evilone
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4.2.3  evilone  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.1    an hour ago
I bet he’s real worried about bullshit like that.

By your flippant attitude I take you think it's okay to not pay one's debts?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    yesterday

Too much is made of these early elections. It’s going to take time for anything Trump does to have such a significant impact that people actually change their minds.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5.1  Snuffy  replied to  Tacos! @5    yesterday

Very true. The only real takeaway from these early elections is that both parties and their lemmings will spin the results to best fit their interests. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Snuffy @5.1    21 hours ago
The only real takeaway from these early elections is that both parties and their lemmings will spin the results to best fit their interests. 

There must be something we can do to stop that! Perhaps a law-- that forbids people from acting in their own interest!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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6  Bob Nelson    yesterday

Good news!

... and there hasn't been much of that lately.

I'll wait for more before getting excited.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1  bugsy  replied to  Bob Nelson @6    yesterday

What is good news that a democrat judge claimed the seat of another democrat judge? Just another day that ends in ‘y’ in Wisconsin.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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7  Robert in Ohio    3 hours ago

It seems to me, that the elections are showing (I hope) is that areas that were purple are turning a little more blue and some barely red districts are taking on a purpe tinge.

Campaign promises were not kept, at least not the ones that led many in the middle and even a little left of the middle to vote for Trump.  Prices are going up on everything, the stock market (and thus the retirement plans of millions of Americans) are on an express trip to hell and the destruction of government agencies is driving fear that services many depend on will be cut back or discontinued altogether.

The midterms are starting to look better for the Democrats

 
 
 
evilone
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7.1  evilone  replied to  Robert in Ohio @7    an hour ago

Wait until the cuts for health care exchanges kicks in.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  evilone @7.1    an hour ago

So?

Those only hit old people, and poor people...

Who gives a flying fuck about them?

 
 
 
evilone
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7.1.2  evilone  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.1.1    47 minutes ago
Who gives a flying fuck about them?

Actions have consequences. In this case I'll cheer when certain people become unemployed on Jan 20th 2027. 

 
 

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