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The Harvard University funding fight.

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  3 days ago  •  34 comments

The Harvard University funding fight.
White House spokesman Harrison Fields said in a statement on Monday that Trump was "working to Make Higher Education Great Again by ending unchecked anti-Semitism and ensuring federal taxpayer dollars do not fund Harvard's support of dangerous racial discrimination or racially motivated violence."

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First off, Harvard University has no right to taxpayer money. It also has a multibillion-dollar endowment which I hope the President taxes because entities that get tax deferments need to work in the public interest. Harvard University has not done so. It has violated the Constitutional rights of its students:

The issue of antisemitism on campus: Jewish American students should be able to attend college in safety & security.

Asian Americans and white Americans should be accepted based on merit. Nobody should be accepted because of their identity.

Conservatives should be able to invite speakers who are able to speak, and Conservatives should be able to get a teaching job at Harvard.

Harvard University should not be indoctrinating students in Marxist ideology.

The response from Harvard is to be expected. Harvard is the wealthiest of the Ivy league schools. 

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Harvard interim president Alan Garber wrote in a public letter that demands made on Friday by the federal Department of Education would allow the federal government "to control the Harvard community" and threaten the school's "values as a private institution devoted to the pursuit, production, and dissemination of knowledge."

"No government - regardless of which party is in power - should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue," he added.

US freezes $2 billion in federal funding for Harvard after it rejects Trump's demands

Harvard has no right to federal money, but its students have rights that are being denied.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    3 days ago

President Trump is now considering to also tax Harvard's endowment. He might even get us out of the student loan business that Obama got us into.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2  Just Jim NC TttH    3 days ago
"No government - regardless of which party is in power - should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue," he added.

True, but they can take your extravagant GovCo funding..............it's all of ours actually they are relieving you of.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2    3 days ago

I'm sure the American people don't want their tax money going to Harvard University anymore.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    3 days ago
I'm sure the American people don't want their tax money going to Harvard University anymore.

When you have a billionaire on the Deans Counsel helping with Hamas Operations it's not a good thing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.1    yesterday

How did he get on the Deans Counsel?

I think Harvard needs some serious defunding and a denial of tax-exempt status.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    yesterday

That is a good question.  And it does justify defunding.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.3    yesterday

Defunding is just about done. Harvard has no right to funding.

On the other hand, Harvard students do have rights, which the university has denied.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    yesterday
On the other hand, Harvard students do have rights, which the university has denied.

They justify those as DEI.   

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.5    12 hours ago

As many Asian Americans with the highest test scores would be glad to verify.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2    3 days ago
rue, but they can take your extravagant GovCo funding

If they want to be a private university, be a private university.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    3 days ago

If Harvard wants to discriminate against asians and fund anti-semitic groups, they can do it without taxpayer dollars.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    3 days ago

Yes, if they want to continue to discriminate, they'll have to do it without taxpayer money and as I say, Trump has other cards to play as well.

Obama has now gotten into it. He thinks it was great that Harvard is going to defy the President and the Constitution.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4  author  Vic Eldred    3 days ago

My advice for Harvard, Columbia and Princeton is either protect the rights of students or you can expect a backlash from this President, the magnitude of which you can't even imagine.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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5  Jack_TX    3 days ago
"No government - regardless of which party is in power - should dictate what private universities can teach,

Fair point.

If they want to teach anti-semitism, it's a free country.  They value their donors above all else, so let's see how the alumni react.

whom they can admit and hire,

Harvard can fuck right off on this one.  Their track record could not be more abysmal.  

We literally had decades of protests over this.  We then passed laws against racial discrimination.

They still didn't admit women until 1977, believing them to be intellectually inferior.  

Let's put this in perspective..... Texas A&M became co-ed in 1963.  The University of Texas (Longhorns) was co-ed from day 1 in 1883.  

Harvard... not until 1977.  We very nearly had a female Supreme Court justice before we had a female Harvard undergrad.

They want control over "whom they admit"??  Why?  So they can discriminate against more Asian kids??   Fuck off.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jack_TX @5    3 days ago

They even once capped the number of Jews who could attend:

 In 1922, Harvard University President Abbott Lawrence Lowell had a problem: His school had too many Jews. At least that’s what he thought.

Lowell eventually succeeded in changing the admissions standards at his Boston-area university to limit the number of Jews. According to Karabel, instead of admitting students solely based on academic achievement, the school began judging their surnames and photographs to determine if they were Jewish. It began classifying students as “J1,” “J2” or “J3” — conclusively Jewish, probably Jewish or maybe Jewish, respectively. It evaluated their “character” as well — a new standard that allowed Harvard to cap the proportion of Jewish students at 15 percent. The quota lasted until the 1960s.

Harvard once capped the number of Jews. Is it doing the same thing to Asian Americans now? - Jewish Telegraphic Agency

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2  Kavika   replied to  Jack_TX @5    3 days ago

Fair representation of Texas schools and their civil rights actions/dates. It also best to look at Harvard’s record.

Caleb Cheeshahteaumuck of the Wampanoag tribe, Class of 1665, was the first Native American to graduate from Harvard College.

I went through the first minority to graduate from Harvard, black 1850, Hispanic 1850, Asian 1890 etc. 

They certainly have a good record in the civil rights, perfect no it isn’t. The same could be said for Texas schools or any school in the US.
 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.3  Sparty On  replied to  Jack_TX @5    3 days ago
The University of Texas (Longhorns) was co-ed from day 1 in 1883.  


Hillsdale College, founded in 1844 was the first US college to have discrimination based on sex, religion or race in admissions, prohibited in their charter.    They were also among first to admit Black students.

Suck on that Ivy League.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6  author  Vic Eldred    3 days ago

Obama seems to think these universities are still the bastion of civil discourse.[]

 
 
 
freepress
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7  freepress    3 days ago

Harvard already has about 52 billion in endowments from years of private donations. They stood up because the amount Trump has withdrawn is merely symbolic. The support they will receive now from private donors allows them to stand on principle.

The President should never try to control a university.

Trump has a personal beef with Harvard since he was turned down for admission as a student.Trump has a personal beef with Columbia since they refused to buy land for an expansion years ago.

Trump is a petty vindictive person and holds a grudge forever. This is just his petty revenge tour using his office and power.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  freepress @7    2 days ago
The President should never try to control a university.

He's not.  He's merely cutting off their government funding.  Like you said, they have about $52 billion.  They can use that.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1    2 days ago

Like any good liberal organization.    They want to have their cake and eat it too.    

Too bad.    Mean old orange man is shutting it down.   About damn time.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  freepress @7    yesterday
The support they will receive now from private donors allows them to stand on principle.

No, if they forego fed dollars they will become dependent on private donors and they will call the shots. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2    yesterday
they will call the shots. 

Yep, just like Hillsdale College.    Who hasn’t taken federal money for over 40 years.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8  author  Vic Eldred    3 days ago

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To close it out:

I am glad that Harvard University stood up in total resistance to Trump. Other universities that don't quite have the endowment that Harvard does have chosen to negotiate with Trump. I don't want that for Harvard. I don't want them to get a single taxpayer dollar, and I hope Trump gets into such a confrontation with them that he taxes their endowment and ends the government student loan business that Obama started.

And thank God that I am not a psychopath because I have always lived too close to the little red schoolhouse known as Harvard University, now not quite as renowned as they once were, they are even teaching remedial math. Still they indoctrinate.

"Good night and good luck."

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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9  sandy-2021492    3 days ago

Meta cleaned up @6.  

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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10  Robert in Ohio    3 days ago

I did a little reading looking into the legitimacy, functionality and effectiveness of Trump University and the expertise and knowledge of President Trump in the area of higher education was obvious.

And by obvious, I mean non-existent

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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10.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Robert in Ohio @10    2 days ago

Did you look into the lawsuits issued against Harvard university by Jewish groups that claimed the school had fostered an antisemitic environment?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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11  Robert in Ohio    2 days ago

I did see that the university settled several cases "whithout admitting guilt".

Didn't Trump University take similar action where Trump paid $25 million to settle claims against him.  

Did you look into that fraud and malfeasance a aggressively as you do the Harvard situation?

 
 

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