Remembering my fellow Catholics peeing their pants w/deep offense & fury over the opening ceremonies of the Olympics, yet now are eerily quiet - no outrage in sight. I don’t care what the imbecile clown in the White House fantasizes about. It’s the hypocrisy that pisses me off.
Trump draws criticism with AI image of himself as the pope | AP News
Nicole Winfield, Jill Colvin 6-8 minutes 5/3/2025
NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump posted an artificial intelligence-generated image of himself dressed as pope as the mourning of Pope Francis continues and just days before the conclave to elect his successor is set to begin. Trump’s action drew rebukes from a group representing Catholic bishops in New York and among Italians.
The image, shared Friday night on Trump’s Truth Social site and later reposted by the White House on its official X account, raised eyebrows on social media and at the Vatican, which is still in the period of nine days of official mourning following Francis’ death on April 21 . Catholic cardinals have been celebrating daily Masses in his memory and are due to open the conclave to elect his successor on Wednesday.
The death of a pope and election of another is a matter of utmost solemnity for Catholics, for whom the pope is Christ’s vicar on Earth. That is all the more true in Italy, where the papacy is held in high esteem even by nonreligious Italians.
The image featuring Trump in a white cassock and pointed miter, or bishop’s hat, was the topic of several questions during the Vatican’s daily conclave briefing Saturday. Italian and Spanish news reports lamented its poor taste and said it was offensive, given that the period of official mourning is still underway.
Left-leaning former Premier Matteo Renzi said the image was shameful. “This is an image that offends believers, insults institutions and shows that the leader of the right-wing world enjoys clowning around,” Renzi wrote on X. “Meanwhile, the U.S. economy risks recession and the dollar loses value. The sovereignists are doing damage, everywhere.”
The Vatican spokesman, Matteo Bruni, declined to comment.
In the United States, the New York State Catholic Conference, which represents the bishops of the state in working with government, accused Trump of mockery.
“There is nothing clever or funny about this image, Mr. President,” they wrote. “We just buried our beloved Pope Francis and the cardinals are about to enter a solemn conclave to elect a new successor of St. Peter. Do not mock us.”
Italy’s left-leaning La Repubblica also featured the image on its homepage Saturday with a commentary accusing Trump of “pathological megalomania.”
Asked to respond to the criticism, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said that, “President Trump flew to Italy to pay his respects for Pope Francis and attend his funeral, and he has been a staunch champion for Catholics and religious liberty.”
Jack Posobiec, a prominent far-right influencer and Trump ally who recently participated in a Catholic prayer event in March at Trump’s Florida resort, also defended the president.
“I’m Catholic. We’ve all been making jokes about the upcoming Pope selection all week. It’s called a sense of humor,” he wrote on X .
The episode comes after Trump joked last week about his interest in the vacancy. “I’d like to be pope. That would be my number one choice,” the thrice married president, who is not Catholic, told reporters.
Sen. Lindsey Graham, a close Trump ally, piled on.
“I was excited to hear that President Trump is open to the idea of being the next Pope. This would truly be a dark horse candidate, but I would ask the papal conclave and Catholic faithful to keep an open mind about this possibility!” Graham, R-S.C., wrote on X . “The first Pope-U.S. President combination has many upsides. Watching for white smoke…. Trump MMXXVIII!”
Vice President JD Vance, who is Catholic and was one of the last foreign officials to meet with Francis before the pope died, also joked about Secretary of State Marco Rubio becoming pope, suggesting Rubio could add it to the long list of titles he holds, including national security adviser and acting archivist.
Beyond floating himself for the job, Trump also has put in a plug for Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the archbishop of New York.
“I have no preference. I must say, we have a cardinal that happens to be out a place called New York who’s very good. So we’ll see what happens,” he said.
Dolan, 75, is one of 10 U.S. cardinals who will be voting in the conclave, but Trump’s pitch might have cost Dolan support.
The reason conclaves are held in secrecy, with cardinals sequestered for the duration, is to prevent outside secular powers from influencing their choice, as occurred in centuries past.
There is an old saying about campaigning for the job of pope or of being promoted excessively, especially by outsiders: If you “enter a conclave as pope, you leave as a cardinal.”
While Trump attended Francis’ funeral, he and Vance have clashed with U.S. bishops in general and Francis in particular over the administration’s hard line stance on immigration and its efforts to deport migrants en masse. Right before he was hospitalized in February for pneumonia, Francis issued a strong rebuke of the administration’s mass deportation plans and Vance’s theological justification of it.
Over 12 years as pope, Francis tried to remake the U.S. Catholic hierarchy more in his image, elevating pastors who prioritized social justice and migration issues over culture warriors who were more favored by his more doctrinaire predecessors St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI. A new pope who is more conservative could reverse that effort.
Trump has nominated as his ambassador to the Holy See Brian Burch, whose Catholicvote.org has been aggressively covering the pre-conclave days at the Vatican. It was one of the main disseminators in English-speaking media of a report, flatly and officially denied by the Vatican, that Cardinal Pietro Parolin had had a health scare this past week that required medical attention.
Parolin was the secretary of state under Francis and is seen as a leading contender to be pope. He is also the main architect of the Vatican’s China policy and its controversial 2018 deal with Beijing over bishop nominations -- a deal that the was sharply criticized by the first Trump administration.
Whether one is pro or anti Catholic, Democrat or Republican, everyone should agree this is clownish behavior and embarrassing and damaging to our national image.
I won't be returning to the fold anytime soon. I disagree with the whole Latin Mass. And them people are zealots. Got one that works with me. I never thought of Catholics as proselytizers but this one is
There have always been hyper religious conservative Catholics. They didnt stand out as much before everything became politicized. There are just as many liberal Catholics, they just dont attract the same attention.
Obama dresses in a tan suit and conservatives call him the antichrist. Trump posts an image of himself in a tan miter (the Pope ’s headdress), days after the Pope died, and they celebrate him as some Christian revolutionary.
Where do you find Obama suggesting that he would like to be the next pope?
Where do you find Obama pushing out a picture like this onto the web?
It did not happen. It would not happen with any other PotUS. Only Trump has the temerity, bad taste, arrogance, disrespect to suggest himself as pope and then, worse, send out a picture of himself as pope.
It is more likely than not that he would accept it. This is a clown who makes himself the club champion in every golf course he owns. Everyone knows he is full of shit but he does not care ... he lives in his own little alternate reality.
not so far out of reach for trumpski. he fits most of the job qualifications. liar, thief, con artist, a past history of involvement in sex crimes, and a cult following ...
This may be problem today, but tomorrow, when all the Latino scum has been sent back to Cuba, and there no Catholics left in the US, this will be just a joke.
No, fuck off with that shit. Trump has done this for years. His cultists do it, too. This is classic asshole bully behavior. They do or say something obnoxious and when people call them out for it, those people are the assholes because they “can’t take a joke.” Seriously go fuck yourself. I’m so tired of hearing that Trump is only joking. You have worn that shit out. No one believes you. You have been given all the passes you’re going to get.
Remembering my fellow Catholics peeing their pants w/deep offense & fury over the opening ceremonies of the Olympics, yet now are eerily quiet - no outrage in sight.
Eerily Quiet? No pushback or outrage at all JR? You sure about that?
Majorities of Catholics also say that abortion should be legal in all or most cases, including 73% of other Catholics of color, 62% of white Catholics, and 57% of Hispanic Catholics.
Certainly many Catholics, regardless of their political affiliations are not happy about Trump mocking the office or importance of the Pope, especially since they are still in mourning about the death of Pope Francis. So I fail to understand what you mean by their hypocrisy.
That you see nothing wrong with Trump, and the White House, posting an image of Trump as the new pope is much more telling. Is he the president of the United States or an outrage comedian ?
The hypocrisy line refers to some Catholics, the ones who were so upset by the mocking of the Last Supper by the drag queens.
than they do Republican (28%) as of 2023
I'll hazard a guess it's those some third of Catholics who are currently trying to either diminish or ignore the gross behavior of their chosen President Trump virtually wiping his slimy smug ass all over their recently deceased Church leader, faith and traditions. Sadly, after having already gone down such a long road defending Trump from the pussy grabbing, the infidelity, the paying off porn star whores, his criminal convictions, his impeachments, I guess defending him for shitting on the Pope is just par for the course for Trumplics.
There are a lot of conservative Catholics who oppose abortion and other things that sent them into the MAGA camp. The Catholic church is like the society, divided.
But is it not possible that Catholics from both political persuasions, or from the independent third, were upset about the last super thing as well as with Trump mocking the position of Pope? Why do you say that there was no outrage about the latter when I have shown you there clearly was?
The hypocrisy line refers to some Catholics, the ones who were so upset by the mocking of the Last Supper by the drag queens.
Like who? I'm Catholic and I don't know a single one who was happy about either issue, and they were especially upset or put off about Trumps idiotic post. So which "some Catholics" are you talking about JR. Can you point any out? Do you know any?
Ah yes Attila, didn't he Caucasus (Hun pun intended) with the Chinese Mongols? Given their antagonism and contribution to the fall of the Roman Empire, I doubt they shared much in common with the early Catholic Church.
Don't know if he "caucasused" with the Mongols. I do believe he collaborated with the Romans but they brought him down (I think). I'm basing this on a TV series I watched about him that starred Gerard Butler
Awwww, are you? Well as it turns out Pope Leo XIV is from Chicago and has "Black family roots in New Orleans" according to ABC news . Will that satisfy your sincere hope for a new and improved Catholic Church to which you lovingly refer as " mackerel snappers "? You hope because you care, how sweet of you devangelical.
no, but actually saving more than they've killed throughout history might help ease their reputation as a genocide church ...
Fair enough. Other than admitting to, apologizing for, and imploring members and leaders of the Church to study that horrible history and vow never to forget or repeat those past atrocities (as every Pope since John Paul II has done) what more do you think can be done about the violent past of the Church or any other people or government throughout history for that matter? Would you agree that the Church is different in modern times, aside from a few bad apples, and does much good around the world with Catholic Relief Services and Catholic Charities?
what more do you think can be done about the violent past of the Church or any other people or government throughout history
Good question. "Reparations" are possible, giving genuine relief to descendents and symbolic relief to victims...and (importantly) a cost to the perpetrator.
Really? For things that happened many centuries ago? Clearly the Catholic Church was not the only entity, group, or government engaging in similar atrocities in the last 2000 years. Are you really going to suggest that we research and identify ALL of the descendants of people ever wronged by such groups in the last 2000 years? 23andMe recently filed for bankruptcy, are you planning on taking up that mantle?
Let's be practical shall we? Catholics of today are no more responsible for what the Church or its people did many centuries ago than you are for what your distant ancestors did. Better be careful what you wish for my friend as it is a mathematical certainty that just about everyone has as many bad actors in their ancient ancestry as they do victims.
What part of "are possible" do you not understand? I was asked a question, I answered. I did not say I favor reparations.
The Catholic Church has existed continuously for 2000 years. It is an institution. All institutions conserve responsability for the good and bad they've done. The Church's massacre of the Cathars cannot be undone, but that evil might be somewhat balanced by a socially valuable project, clearly labelled as compensation.
Alternatively, the Church can bear its guilt eternally. Not my problem. I am neither Catholic nor Cathar.
Trump thinks that because he wasn't elected Pope the vote was rigged.
"There were a lot of votes coming from people who didn't speak English, I'm not sure if they're illegals or not, but they're certainly not sending their best. They're sending these guys, these St. Louis cardinals or whatever, speaking all these mumbo jumbo words instead of the beautiful most amazing American English which is what I call it, the best, it's beautiful, the best language. But these guys get to vote and its very wrong, they're not good people, they didn't pick me, or even JD who should have gotten the nomination since, you know, he was the one who helped create this little vacancy. Never underestimate the power of our dark side...".
That's pretty funny. My wife and I read that Vance was going to meet with Pope Leo XIV and we both glanced at each other and didn't need to say it, "Ah shit... here we go again..."
apnews.com /article/trump-pope-francis-conclave-ai-image-bishops-9d88286886c350c4465f7c2afb7a5e41
Trump draws criticism with AI image of himself as the pope | AP News
Nicole Winfield, Jill Colvin 6-8 minutes 5/3/2025
NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump posted an artificial intelligence-generated image of himself dressed as pope as the mourning of Pope Francis continues and just days before the conclave to elect his successor is set to begin. Trump’s action drew rebukes from a group representing Catholic bishops in New York and among Italians.
The image, shared Friday night on Trump’s Truth Social site and later reposted by the White House on its official X account, raised eyebrows on social media and at the Vatican, which is still in the period of nine days of official mourning following Francis’ death on April 21 . Catholic cardinals have been celebrating daily Masses in his memory and are due to open the conclave to elect his successor on Wednesday.
The death of a pope and election of another is a matter of utmost solemnity for Catholics, for whom the pope is Christ’s vicar on Earth. That is all the more true in Italy, where the papacy is held in high esteem even by nonreligious Italians.
The image featuring Trump in a white cassock and pointed miter, or bishop’s hat, was the topic of several questions during the Vatican’s daily conclave briefing Saturday. Italian and Spanish news reports lamented its poor taste and said it was offensive, given that the period of official mourning is still underway.
Left-leaning former Premier Matteo Renzi said the image was shameful. “This is an image that offends believers, insults institutions and shows that the leader of the right-wing world enjoys clowning around,” Renzi wrote on X. “Meanwhile, the U.S. economy risks recession and the dollar loses value. The sovereignists are doing damage, everywhere.”
The Vatican spokesman, Matteo Bruni, declined to comment.
In the United States, the New York State Catholic Conference, which represents the bishops of the state in working with government, accused Trump of mockery.
“There is nothing clever or funny about this image, Mr. President,” they wrote. “We just buried our beloved Pope Francis and the cardinals are about to enter a solemn conclave to elect a new successor of St. Peter. Do not mock us.”
Italy’s left-leaning La Repubblica also featured the image on its homepage Saturday with a commentary accusing Trump of “pathological megalomania.”
Asked to respond to the criticism, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said that, “President Trump flew to Italy to pay his respects for Pope Francis and attend his funeral, and he has been a staunch champion for Catholics and religious liberty.”
Jack Posobiec, a prominent far-right influencer and Trump ally who recently participated in a Catholic prayer event in March at Trump’s Florida resort, also defended the president.
“I’m Catholic. We’ve all been making jokes about the upcoming Pope selection all week. It’s called a sense of humor,” he wrote on X .
The episode comes after Trump joked last week about his interest in the vacancy. “I’d like to be pope. That would be my number one choice,” the thrice married president, who is not Catholic, told reporters.
Sen. Lindsey Graham, a close Trump ally, piled on.
“I was excited to hear that President Trump is open to the idea of being the next Pope. This would truly be a dark horse candidate, but I would ask the papal conclave and Catholic faithful to keep an open mind about this possibility!” Graham, R-S.C., wrote on X . “The first Pope-U.S. President combination has many upsides. Watching for white smoke…. Trump MMXXVIII!”
Vice President JD Vance, who is Catholic and was one of the last foreign officials to meet with Francis before the pope died, also joked about Secretary of State Marco Rubio becoming pope, suggesting Rubio could add it to the long list of titles he holds, including national security adviser and acting archivist.
Beyond floating himself for the job, Trump also has put in a plug for Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the archbishop of New York.
“I have no preference. I must say, we have a cardinal that happens to be out a place called New York who’s very good. So we’ll see what happens,” he said.
Dolan, 75, is one of 10 U.S. cardinals who will be voting in the conclave, but Trump’s pitch might have cost Dolan support.
The reason conclaves are held in secrecy, with cardinals sequestered for the duration, is to prevent outside secular powers from influencing their choice, as occurred in centuries past.
There is an old saying about campaigning for the job of pope or of being promoted excessively, especially by outsiders: If you “enter a conclave as pope, you leave as a cardinal.”
While Trump attended Francis’ funeral, he and Vance have clashed with U.S. bishops in general and Francis in particular over the administration’s hard line stance on immigration and its efforts to deport migrants en masse. Right before he was hospitalized in February for pneumonia, Francis issued a strong rebuke of the administration’s mass deportation plans and Vance’s theological justification of it.
Over 12 years as pope, Francis tried to remake the U.S. Catholic hierarchy more in his image, elevating pastors who prioritized social justice and migration issues over culture warriors who were more favored by his more doctrinaire predecessors St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI. A new pope who is more conservative could reverse that effort.
Trump has nominated as his ambassador to the Holy See Brian Burch, whose Catholicvote.org has been aggressively covering the pre-conclave days at the Vatican. It was one of the main disseminators in English-speaking media of a report, flatly and officially denied by the Vatican, that Cardinal Pietro Parolin had had a health scare this past week that required medical attention.
Parolin was the secretary of state under Francis and is seen as a leading contender to be pope. He is also the main architect of the Vatican’s China policy and its controversial 2018 deal with Beijing over bishop nominations -- a deal that the was sharply criticized by the first Trump administration.
___ Winfield reported from Vatican City.
erect a cross and grab a nail gun ...
Whether one is pro or anti Catholic, Democrat or Republican, everyone should agree this is clownish behavior and embarrassing and damaging to our national image.
Every Catholic I know thought it was funny.
I think it may be a good fit for Trump. The Pope serves for life.
I could see a return to the policy of Pope Pius XII. An era of peace and reflection.
Ah yes, the beloved 1950's.
When the churches were full.
... full of hypocrites.
... and blacks, women, and gays knew their place.
Actually, minorities did better then.
I won't be returning to the fold anytime soon. I disagree with the whole Latin Mass. And them people are zealots. Got one that works with me. I never thought of Catholics as proselytizers but this one is
There have always been hyper religious conservative Catholics. They didnt stand out as much before everything became politicized. There are just as many liberal Catholics, they just dont attract the same attention.
The Vatican should have responded with “we said we’re seeking a new Pope, not Dope.”
trumpski's already considered st peter by maga ...
Wow, now we have a saint penis !
he's just a below average dick now ...
What do you suppose RFK will prescribe for a runny nose?
Kleenex without harmful dyes or fillers?
Where do you find Obama suggesting that he would like to be the next pope?
Where do you find Obama pushing out a picture like this onto the web?
It did not happen. It would not happen with any other PotUS. Only Trump has the temerity, bad taste, arrogance, disrespect to suggest himself as pope and then, worse, send out a picture of himself as pope.
If somehow Trump was actually elected pope, he would accept and say he would run the papacy out of Marlago.
I honestly dont think he would turn it down and say he was joking.
It is more likely than not that he would accept it. This is a clown who makes himself the club champion in every golf course he owns. Everyone knows he is full of shit but he does not care ... he lives in his own little alternate reality.
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not so far out of reach for trumpski. he fits most of the job qualifications. liar, thief, con artist, a past history of involvement in sex crimes, and a cult following ...
This may be problem today, but tomorrow, when all the Latino scum has been sent back to Cuba, and there no Catholics left in the US, this will be just a joke.
I actually don't. What happened at the Olympics?
The confusion that a float containing Dionysus was a parody on the Last Supper.
I remember JFK's election. Talking heads worried that the Pope would make American policy.
I remember that concern as well.
There were a bunch of drag queens parodying the DaVinci painting The Last Supper. It was an official part of the Paris Olympics opening ceremonies.
It actually was supposed to be based on a different painting, but I understand why a lot of people misunderstood.
maga struggled to find things to be offended by ...
No, fuck off with that shit. Trump has done this for years. His cultists do it, too. This is classic asshole bully behavior. They do or say something obnoxious and when people call them out for it, those people are the assholes because they “can’t take a joke.” Seriously go fuck yourself. I’m so tired of hearing that Trump is only joking. You have worn that shit out. No one believes you. You have been given all the passes you’re going to get.
He's disgusting
ROFL. Provoked people have righted a lot of wrongs in this world.
Yep. 8 hour work days, overtime, child labor laws, equality, food safety laws, safe working environments....
.... Facebook posts, tweets...... and now the great evil of our time.... AI generated memes.....
Eerily Quiet? No pushback or outrage at all JR? You sure about that?
Donald Trump Sparks Outrage After Posting AI-Generated Image Of Himself As Pope
Catholic community reacts to Trump's AI image of himself as the Pope
Catholic outrage grows over 'Pope Trump' image on official White House media
How much is enough outrage for you JR?
What hypocrisy JR? Until very recently most Catholics vote Democrat anyway and the Catholic vote has been split on presidential candidates fairly evenly in the last several elections. Indeed most Catholics still identify as Democrats (33%) or Independents (30%) than they do Republican (28%) as of 2023 . Catholics have varying views on specific issues and in ways that might surprise a lot of people.
Certainly many Catholics, regardless of their political affiliations are not happy about Trump mocking the office or importance of the Pope, especially since they are still in mourning about the death of Pope Francis. So I fail to understand what you mean by their hypocrisy.
The hypocrisy line refers to some Catholics, the ones who were so upset by the mocking of the Last Supper by the drag queens.
That you don't see any difference is quite telling............
That you see nothing wrong with Trump, and the White House, posting an image of Trump as the new pope is much more telling. Is he the president of the United States or an outrage comedian ?
than they do Republican (28%) as of 2023
I'll hazard a guess it's those some third of Catholics who are currently trying to either diminish or ignore the gross behavior of their chosen President Trump virtually wiping his slimy smug ass all over their recently deceased Church leader, faith and traditions. Sadly, after having already gone down such a long road defending Trump from the pussy grabbing, the infidelity, the paying off porn star whores, his criminal convictions, his impeachments, I guess defending him for shitting on the Pope is just par for the course for Trumplics.
And we would expect something different?
There are a lot of conservative Catholics who oppose abortion and other things that sent them into the MAGA camp. The Catholic church is like the society, divided.
Now THAT I agree with.
But is it not possible that Catholics from both political persuasions, or from the independent third, were upset about the last super thing as well as with Trump mocking the position of Pope? Why do you say that there was no outrage about the latter when I have shown you there clearly was?
Even Alternet.org wrote an article about conservative Catholic outrage over the Trump image .
Only an idiot like Trump would say that Catholics loved his image as Pope .
Like who? I'm Catholic and I don't know a single one who was happy about either issue, and they were especially upset or put off about Trumps idiotic post. So which "some Catholics" are you talking about JR. Can you point any out? Do you know any?
Good question. I think he thinks he's a comedian, but I don't see any Catholics laughing. His bullshit excuse for it tells the whole story . Nothing is ever his fault.
Apparently Cardinal Dolan didn't like it and I hear he's to the right of Attila the Hun
Cardinal Dolan is MAGA.
yeah but he still didn't like it
yep
Ah yes Attila, didn't he Caucasus (Hun pun intended) with the Chinese Mongols? Given their antagonism and contribution to the fall of the Roman Empire, I doubt they shared much in common with the early Catholic Church.
Don't know if he "caucasused" with the Mongols. I do believe he collaborated with the Romans but they brought him down (I think). I'm basing this on a TV series I watched about him that starred Gerard Butler
The new pope has been elected. Don't know who
I'm hoping for a black pope, to filter all the maga racists out of the mackerel snapper church flock ...
Awwww, are you? Well as it turns out Pope Leo XIV is from Chicago and has "Black family roots in New Orleans" according to ABC news . Will that satisfy your sincere hope for a new and improved Catholic Church to which you lovingly refer as " mackerel snappers "? You hope because you care, how sweet of you devangelical.
no, but actually saving more than they've killed throughout history might help ease their reputation as a genocide church ...
Fair enough. Other than admitting to, apologizing for, and imploring members and leaders of the Church to study that horrible history and vow never to forget or repeat those past atrocities (as every Pope since John Paul II has done) what more do you think can be done about the violent past of the Church or any other people or government throughout history for that matter? Would you agree that the Church is different in modern times, aside from a few bad apples, and does much good around the world with Catholic Relief Services and Catholic Charities?
they're only sorry when they get caught, and still plenty left hiding in the vatican closet that needs to come out ...
lets see the books and then lets see what's in the vaults in the basement.
Good question. "Reparations" are possible, giving genuine relief to descendents and symbolic relief to victims...and (importantly) a cost to the perpetrator.
Really? For things that happened many centuries ago? Clearly the Catholic Church was not the only entity, group, or government engaging in similar atrocities in the last 2000 years. Are you really going to suggest that we research and identify ALL of the descendants of people ever wronged by such groups in the last 2000 years? 23andMe recently filed for bankruptcy, are you planning on taking up that mantle?
Let's be practical shall we? Catholics of today are no more responsible for what the Church or its people did many centuries ago than you are for what your distant ancestors did. Better be careful what you wish for my friend as it is a mathematical certainty that just about everyone has as many bad actors in their ancient ancestry as they do victims.
What part of "are possible" do you not understand? I was asked a question, I answered. I did not say I favor reparations.
The Catholic Church has existed continuously for 2000 years. It is an institution. All institutions conserve responsability for the good and bad they've done. The Church's massacre of the Cathars cannot be undone, but that evil might be somewhat balanced by a socially valuable project, clearly labelled as compensation.
Alternatively, the Church can bear its guilt eternally. Not my problem. I am neither Catholic nor Cathar.
The parts that aren't possible.
Actually you weren't, devangelical was, but no worries.
Shall I not Reply to you if your post is not specifically directed to me?
What part of “no worries” do you not understand? I’m always happy to hear and consider your view Bob.
Trump thinks that because he wasn't elected Pope the vote was rigged.
Sistine Chapel chimney smoke tampering would not be unprecedented, according to conspiracy theory .
If Trump were elected Pope, it is possible that the whole Chapel would go up in smoke.
"There were a lot of votes coming from people who didn't speak English, I'm not sure if they're illegals or not, but they're certainly not sending their best. They're sending these guys, these St. Louis cardinals or whatever, speaking all these mumbo jumbo words instead of the beautiful most amazing American English which is what I call it, the best, it's beautiful, the best language. But these guys get to vote and its very wrong, they're not good people, they didn't pick me, or even JD who should have gotten the nomination since, you know, he was the one who helped create this little vacancy. Never underestimate the power of our dark side...".
"Your powers are weak, old man."
lol
That's pretty funny. My wife and I read that Vance was going to meet with Pope Leo XIV and we both glanced at each other and didn't need to say it, "Ah shit... here we go again..."