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Trump Says US Must Own Greenland

  

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By:  john-russell  •  10 months ago  •  46 comments

Trump Says US Must Own Greenland

Q: Why is it so important to you to own Greenland when you have a military presence there?

TRUMP: Because when we own it, we defend it. We'll have to defend Greenland. NATO has gotta understand that.

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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    10 months ago

He says he wont defend Greenland unless we own it, and he will not tolerate Russia or China occupying Greenland.

He's a lunatic. 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JohnRussell @1    10 months ago
He's a lunatic. 

yet, his defenders still excuse and support him...?

Twilight Zone worthy

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.1    10 months ago

We have a military base on Greenland. Is he saying he wont defend our base on Greenland unless we own the island? 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    10 months ago
Is he saying he wont defend our base on Greenland unless we own the island?

Hell, if it comes to it right now, I don't think he'd defend any blue state.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    10 months ago

Does he know we have a base there? 

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.1.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.3    10 months ago

Doubt it

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @1    10 months ago

Has either China or Russia EVER indicated any intention of invading Greenland, which is protected by NATO?  I really doubt it, so IMO Trump's REAL intention is to grab Greenland's minerals, just as his real intention was to grab Venezuala's oil.  He's on his way to fulfilling his being a conquering Conquistador - see LINK - Conquistadors On Screen: 10 Epic Films - Buzz Of The Orient | The NewsTalkers

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2  Right Down the Center    10 months ago

I am thinking of taking a vacation to Greenland.  I wonder if it will be cheaper if it becomes ours.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    10 months ago
I wonder if it will be cheaper if it becomes ours.

More likely, the opposite.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Tacos! @2.1    10 months ago

More likely, the opposite.

Indeed, American's are likely not welcome there anymore. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    10 months ago
I am thinking of taking a vacation to Greenland.

If you want to vacation in the area I'd recommend Iceland -- it has a much better climate than Greenland -- and a lot more interesting things to do!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Krishna @2.2    10 months ago

Definitely a possibility.  My brother went to Iceland recently and loved it.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.2  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.1    10 months ago
Definitely a possibility.  My brother went to Iceland recently and loved it.

The implications of the names of Iceland and Greenland should be reversed! Iceland actually has a much more temperate climate-- and Greenland is much colder and not particularly green!

Greenland has the very cold weather you'd expect from its being so far North. So why is it named "Greenland"?

From Wikipedia:

Greenland is the  least densely populated country  in the world. 

Thorvald, who had committed manslaughter. With his extended family and his  thralls   ( slaves or serfs ) , he set out in ships to explore an icy land known to lie to the northwest. After finding a habitable area and settling there, he named it  Grœnland  (translated as "Greenland"), supposedly in the hope that the pleasant name would attract settlers

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.3  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2.2.2    10 months ago
The implications of the names of Iceland and Greenland should be reversed! Iceland actually has a much more temperate climate-- and Greenland is much colder and not particularly green!

"Iceland" sounds cold and not very habitable. But its actually much more temperate than Greenland, despite being so close to it.

Why is "Iceland" so temperate? 

IIRC its because it has volcanic activity that makes for hot springs.

In addition, it has the same warming influence that the extreme South-west of England (Cornwall) has-- the thing that allows for Palm trees to grow there. (The Gulfstream).

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.2.4  Bob Nelson  replied to  Krishna @2.2.3    10 months ago

In fact, most of Iceland is uninhabitable desert. Not "Sahara sand" desert. Volcanic lava desert. Mountains steer rain away from the center of the island. It's empty.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Krishna @2.2.2    10 months ago
Interesting, thanks We are two years away from going. This year is Spain and Portugal
 
 
 
devangelical
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2.3  devangelical  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    10 months ago
I wonder if it will be cheaper if it becomes ours.

I bet it would be if you only buy a one way ticket and wear your trump maga hat around while you're there ...

 
 
 
shona1
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2.3.1  shona1  replied to  devangelical @2.3    10 months ago

Morning...the Polar Bears will be wrapped..

More tasty tourists on the menu..I am sure they would like an alternative to seal..

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.3.2  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @2.3.1    10 months ago

oh look, that little iceberg has a face ...

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3  Gsquared    10 months ago

Making America A Colonial Power

Undoubtedly, that's what magas voted for.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @3    10 months ago

I'm waiting for the NA's to storm mar-a-lardo, kidnap the moron king, and demand all their broken treaties be renegotiated.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  devangelical @3.1    10 months ago

Talk to 1st... 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  author  JohnRussell    10 months ago

President  Donald Trump  vowed to “do something” on  Greenland —  whether it happens the “nice way or the more difficult way” — warning that if he does not act “Russia or China will take over” the territory.

The president’s remarks came as he took questions from reporters during his meeting with top U.S. oil executives on Friday, which involved CEOs from Exxon, ConocoPhillips, and Shell when the topic came up.

One reporter asked about the suggestion by some in the administration of sending Greenlanders a lump sum,  reportedly between $10,000 and $100,000 , in a bid to convince residents to join the U.S., pressing Trump on “how much money” he was hoping to offer.

The president cut the journalist off: “I’m not talking about money for Greenland yet. I might talk about that but right now we are going to do something on Greenland whether they like it or not because if we don’t do it Russia or China will take over Greenland and we are not going to have Russia or China as a neighbor. Okay?”

He paused as other reporters in the room began calling for his attention, before continuing: “I would like to make a deal the easy way, but if we don’t do it the easy way we will do it the hard way.”

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4    10 months ago

Be honest, this guy's a fricking nut job.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    10 months ago

I just heard a well-regarded historian state that Trump is not engaged in classic colonialism, but rather, personalized, Putin-style colonialism.  That sounds like an accurate assessment.  Besides that, the guy's a fricking nut job.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.1    10 months ago

Trump says that Denmark has no claim on Greenland based on sailing a ship there 500 years ago.  With that logic England had no claim to Virginia in 1607. 

88% of the Greenland population is at least partly Inuit, an indigenous group. Trump wants to colonize them like its 1626. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    10 months ago

100% unnecessary. We have a base there now. We used to have several more and there is no reason we couldn’t occupy them again, if we felt it necessary. In the meantime, we are needlessly alienating a military and economic ally.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5.1  Gsquared  replied to  Tacos! @5    10 months ago
needlessly alienating a military and economic ally

Allies.  The whole thing is a slap in the face to all NATO members.

 
 
 
Krishna
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6  Krishna    10 months ago

right now we are going to do something on Greenland whether they like it or not because if we don’t do it Russia or China will take over Greenland and we are not going to have Russia or China as a neighbor. Okay?”

Neither Russia nor China have made any moves toward taking over Greenland in the past. 

So what makes him think they suddenly want to do it now?

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @6    10 months ago
Neither Russia nor China have made any moves toward taking over Greenland in the past.  So what makes him think they suddenly want to do it now?

Both have other priorities. (Russia's seemingly endless involvement with the Ukraine  . . .  and China's expansionist obsessions re: Taiwan as well as other colonialist dreams of getting total dominance of many areas nearby).

 
 
 
Gsquared
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7  Gsquared    10 months ago

                                    256

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @7    10 months ago

LOL   

So if Trump invades Greenland, he will demolish NATO or the effectiveness of it.  That should make his friend Putin very happy. 

 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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7.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.1    10 months ago

Trump has made it clear for several years that he would like to see the end of NATO.  Just like Putin.

 
 
 
Dig
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7.1.2  Dig  replied to  Gsquared @7.1.1    10 months ago

Birds of a feather...

 
 
 
Gsquared
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7.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  Dig @7.1.2    10 months ago

A friend just sent this:

If America wants to end this nightmare all we have to do is tell Trump that Obama can hold his breath for ten minutes.

 
 
 
Dig
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7.1.4  Dig  replied to  Gsquared @7.1.3    10 months ago

LMAO! 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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7.1.5  Gsquared  replied to  Dig @7.1.4    10 months ago

Is that great, or what?

 
 
 
Dig
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7.1.6  Dig  replied to  Gsquared @7.1.5    10 months ago

It's hilarious. First really good laugh I've had all day.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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7.1.7  Gsquared  replied to  Dig @7.1.6    10 months ago

My friend sent it a couple of hours ago.  I'm still laughing.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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7.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  Gsquared @7    10 months ago

256

 
 
 
Gsquared
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7.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  sandy-2021492 @7.2    10 months ago

Funny.

 
 
 
Dig
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8  Dig    10 months ago
Q: Why is it so important to you to own Greenland when you have a military presence there? TRUMP: Because when we own it, we defend it. We'll have to defend Greenland. NATO has gotta understand that.

And yet, through all 44 years of the Cold War, with tensions at times much higher than now, we did just fine without "owning" it. And we didn't have to threaten taking territory from a friend and ally to do it.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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8.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dig @8    10 months ago

Trump is doing his damndest to cause America to have less friends and allies every day. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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9  Hal A. Lujah    10 months ago

I can’t figure out how this guy didn’t get the Nobel peace prize.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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9.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @9    10 months ago

He can't even get hold of one when Machado offered to give him hers.  The Nobel Committee said no dice.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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9.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @9    10 months ago

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