Yesterday, ICE raided a home on St. Paul’s East Side. Their target was ChongLy Scott Thao, an elderly Hmong American man.
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Yesterday, ICE raided a home on St. Paul’s East Side. Their target was ChongLy Scott Thao, an elderly Hmong American man. He’s a U.S. citizen with no criminal record. Armed ICE agents broke down the door without presenting a valid warrant, entered with guns drawn, and handcuffed him in front of his 5-year-old grandson, who was left crying and traumatized. This happened in sub-zero conditions, with wind chills near -30°F.
Thao was dragged outside wearing only shorts, a blanket, and Crocs and marched through the snow. ICE then drove him around for nearly an hour, questioned and fingerprinted him, confirmed he was a citizen and not the person they were looking for… and dropped him back at home. No apology. No explanation. No accountability. Is this what you voted for?
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There is no excuse for this.
TRUMP & his NEO-NAZI THUGS, ICE, are serving as "Dirty Diaper Donnie's" personal GESTAPO!
Trump must be IMPEACHED, and his entire Cut Thorat, Murdering, Fake Army, and incompetent sycophants will be REQUIRED by Law to EXIT THE WHITEHOUSE!
Protect America, not Donald J. Trump!
Gestapo
Seven ICE cops , weapons drawn, entered this old man's house
These ICE pigs also swear to uphold the rule of law, i.e, the Constitution, and are obligated to refuse illegal orders. Seems a claim of self defense (2nd Amend. Remedy) would stand in any court of law. Judges are also bound by oath to uphold the Constitution.
The heading of the seed and the story itself do not jive.
While I think it is wrong to take and elderly man in the cold for any reason, I am sure there have been others that were illegal and were taken out of their homes, and rightfully, throughout the city
The headline states the "target" was chongly scott thao, but in the story, it states ICE realized he was not the person they were looking for. So, what is it. Was he the target, or was he mistakenly held, then released.
Also, it states the man's grandchild was in the home with him, so there may be reason to believe that the father of the child, possibly with a similar name, was who they were looking for.
It was a mistake, but there is always another part of the story. Problem with left wing media is they have been busted many times over the past couple of months of not telling that part.
In other words your response to a senior citizen American citizen being taken away in his underwear in sub zero weather is "ooops".
No...Not in "other words".
I specifically said taking an elderly man out into the cold for any reason was wrong.
Read before you spout
Wasting your breath, you are arguing with the same rightists that twisted themselves in knots to justify the MURDER of Renee Good.
So I was right….again. Here is Paul Harvey’s rest of the story. The guy was harboring 2 convicted pedophiles that had final orders of removal. The old man refused to identify himself or get fingerprinted. The 2 pedophiles are still at large.
Why do many democrats defend these people more than law abiding Americans
I asked ChatGPT to locate the origin of the claim you made. In net, this looks like more dishonest claims from the corrupt DHS. And you bought it.
So a good search and progressives are mad ICE went after pedophiles.
Got it.
Amazing how much you have distorted that post and reality itself. Pure fantasy.
That explains much.
The entire narrative that agent Ross was treated at a hospital for internal bleeding comes from one media story and one source (DHS). Every mention of him being hospitalized can be traced to two anonymous individuals feeding CBS a story.
If he actually went to a hospital they would give the name of the hospital and Ross himself could give the ER doctors name. They (DHS) dont even want to talk about it any more because they have no receipts and want us to take their word.
Same with this story about the man taken out of his house in his underwear. His family says they might sue ICE.
The level of dishonesty from DHS (and the administration in general) is staggering.
Yet obviously, there are still those who inexplicably buy what they are peddling.
If Ross had actually been treated at a hospital why would there only be one source reporting it (CBS)? It doesnt pass the first moment of a smell test.
‘If he actually went to a hospital they would give the name of the hospital and Ross himself could give the ER doctors name. ’
I went through this the other day. Perhaps you simply ignored it.
HIPPAA does not allow for disclosing the name of hospital to the public.
Ross does not have to say shit to you or anyone else. It is not your business.
HIPAA does not prevent a patient from saying the name of the hospital they were in.
HIPAA might prevent the hospital from saying he was treated there. It does not prevent Ross from saying he was treated there.
There is no good reason to believe he ever went to a hospital. If he was there they would give the name.
yes it does, John. I have to take HIPAA certifcation every year and this is a specific rule
And now that I was forced to agree with bugsy I'm gonna go stick my fingers down my throat
Wow, first me and now Bugsy. You really want to come over on the dark side, guess the cookies are REALLY REALLY good here. hehe
So when the news says something like "the shooting victim was taken to Good Samaritan Hospital" (which happens everyday in this country), they are violating HIPAA? I dont believe it.
explain to us the specific rule that would prevent Ross from saying "I went to the Emergency Room at City General Hospital".
I'll eat cookies with you
Nothing prevents Ross from saying where he rec'd treatment or what type of treatment he rec'd. The facility that provided the treatment is prohibited from saying anything. If a news report says he was taken to ABC hospital that is information that was rec'd from either a cop or the hospital's public relations office
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Maybe in Chicago because there are so many shootings, there is a well known location that the shooting victims are sent to.
Where i live if there is someone that makes the news and are sent to the hospital, the news only states they were sent to the hospital.
So let’s say the name of the hospital the LEO that was hit by Goode is known. What gives you the right to know what he was there for and what his diagnosis is?
‘explain to us the specific rule that would prevent Ross from saying "I went to the Emergency Room at City General Hospital". ’
There is only one rule and it is unwritten…’None of your effing business’
so you admit there is no rule.
Ross is permitted to give the name of the hospital he went to. If he isnt lying, why not give it?
So his apprehension was, in fact legal.
You know they won't answer that question with any level of honesty. In fact, I'm willing to bet the only response will be the usual leftist response of name calling.
I just threw up all my cookies
If I said to you "how do you know Ross was injured and went to the hospital ? " you would probably say "because DHS told us ". Thats not good enough.
Why should he give the name to a bunch of people that have already made up their minds he is guilty of murder?
Given the recent actions of the left, he may have done it to protect the Doctor and their team. Not that he is required to give that information in the first place.
What can I say, I do endeavor to make an impression. LOL
making women puke is a good first impression....haha
‘If I said to you "how do you know Ross was injured and went to the hospital ? " you would probably say "because DHS told us ". Thats not good enough. ’
For close to four years, those of you in the left told us Biden was ‘sharp as a tack’ and ‘does circles around his staff’.
We knew that was a lie but you guys insisted what we saw with our own eyes was not real and tried to force us to believe you.
Was that good enough?
‘Given the recent actions of the left, he may have done it to protect the Doctor and their team. Not that he is required to give that information in the first place’
Never thought about that. If the insurgents found out the doctors and nurses that treated him, they would storm the hospital demanding the hospital give them Ross’ records, or they would steal them like they broke into ICE vehicles and stole weapons and documents.
We saw what they do with church members. They certainly would do the same in a hospital.
‘rightists that twisted themselves in knots to justify the MURDER of Renee Good. ’
There was no twisting. Video does not lie. She deserved the double tap for trying to hit him.
So you dont have an answer. Joe Biden is not the answer.
Because there are some who are a bit slow in keeping up with facts:
Videos Capture Minneapolis Rioters Looting DHS Vehicles, Exposing Agent Info Online
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‘So you dont have an answer. Joe Biden is not the answer. ’
I gave you my answer and it is right over target.
Thankfully Biden and his DEI VP were not the answer. Sane Americans prevailed a little over a year ago.
We were talking about agent Ross being unable to prove he went to the hospital and you start talking about Joe Biden. That is a loser move.
Here’s a fun exercise: turn on any news channel and hold your breath for as long as it takes until Trump’s name comes up. Trust me, you’ll be just fine. You won’t even get light headed.
Um, no LMAO!!!!!!
Learn the laws of the land.
I think someone that works in the healthcare field knows more about HIPAA than someone that has no idea what HIPAA is.
Trump, unfortunately for the triggered. has nothing to do with it.
Trump can't even spell, "HIPPA".
And yet he looks a lot like a Hippo...
Here s a hypothetical for our "friends" on the left might be able to answer.
Let's say Trump allowed millions of unvetted illegals into the country and set them free to go wherever they wanted to go. Many of them are criminals that had records on the country they came from, while many other committed horrendous crimes while they were here.
During the next election, the democratic front runner ran on America first and to deport all illegals, beginning with the criminals. That democratic person wins the election and begins using ICE the way Trump is legally using them today.
Would leftists be out doxxing, following, obstructing, harassing, assaulting, these ICE agents, or because the president who won the election is a democrat, leftists would be leaving them alone to do the jobs Congress gave them to do?
I am going to give my opinion as the first answer...........The answer is a huge NO!!! Leftists would leave ICE alone because the reason they are acting out like they are today is for one reason and one reason only.
Trump is president.
We saw what happened with Obama. It didn't bother them.
If it wasn't ICE, it'd be something else. There goal is the overthrow of a democratically elected President. "ICE" is just today's hook. They would stir up their crazies with something else if Trump went full Biden and opened the borders and basically refused to deport anyone.
That is inaccurate. Trump ran on deporting murderers, rapists, drug--dealers, etc. Not on deporting anyone who is not here legally.
Your hypothetical is dishonest. You yet again post a dishonest comment in an attempt to defend the worst PotUS in US history.
ChATGPT disagrees:
I searched for an actual direct quote from Donald Trump where he explicitly said he would “only deport criminal aliens” and here’s what I found:
Closest Substantive Quote
In a 2016 CBS “60 Minutes” interview, Trump said he would focus enforcement on illegal immigrants with criminal records:
“What we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers… but we’re getting them out of our country or we’re going to incarcerate… they’re here illegally.” — Donald Trump on CBS’s 60 Minutes.
This emphasizes prioritizing criminal aliens, but it doesn’t literally say “I will only deport criminal aliens.” It says his plan is to deport those with criminal records — a priority — not that others would be exempt.
Important Clarification
Despite frequent claims that he would only deport criminals, there is no clear record of Trump saying the explicit phrase “I will deport only criminal illegal aliens” as a standalone promise. In fact:
Campaign rhetoric consistently said that criminal aliens would be a high priority for removal.
But texts of his speeches and statements (e.g., his major 2016 immigration speech) were broader — they talked about deportations generally and emphasized criminals but did not promise only criminals would ever be deported.
Bugsy posed a hypothetical where a PotUS stated he would deport ALL illegals starting with the bad guys. Trump's most commonly used campaign rhetoric was based on scare tactics claiming that Mexico has been dumping their murderers/rapists/drug-dealers/insane/... and that he will get rid of them. His rhetoric mostly dealt with that same very surgical, very specific initiative.
When his language was more vague, he would speak of the largest deportation. But I personally never heard him making a specific claim that connotes to: I am going after anyone who is illegal, regardless of circumstances. If he had used that as his primary message rather than this targeting of bad guys, that would likely have made a difference in what voters understood him to be saying.
I asked ChatGPT to look for specific rhetoric from Trump during his 2023-24 campaign that made clear that he planned to go after anyone who is not here legally. This is what it found:
Trump is covered on a vague technicality. But in human terms, I have never seen anywhere where he clearly (i.e. made it clear) campaigned on getting rid of anyone who is not here legally.
“Let's say Trump allowed millions of unvetted illegals into the country and set them free to go wherever they wanted to go. Many of them are criminals that had records on the country they came from, while many other committed horrendous crimes while they were here.”
Libs would be pissed!
”During the next election, the democratic front runner ran on America first and to deport all illegals, beginning with the criminals.”
and i would’ve voted for that democrat.
”Would leftists be out doxxing, following, obstructing, harassing, assaulting, these ICE agents, or because the president who won the election is a democrat”
hell no they wouldn’t.
“Leftists would leave ICE alone because the reason they are acting out like they are today is for one reason and one reason only.
Trump is president.”
100 %.
I would not have. Going after bad guys is exactly right. Going after recent illegals is exactly right. Going after domiciled illegals, working, raising families, paying taxes, having children who are natural born citizens, etc. and simply deporting them is the wrong solution.
The solution is to secure the border as best as possible, deport bad illegals and those who have been here less than a year, and then work out a path to citizenship for those who are here because of past failures.
The solution, in short, is to deal with present and future problems because that is where we have the most control and best options. Deal with past mistakes as a very different type and substantially more complex problem.
A whole lot of Progressives are in the midst of another moral panic, similar to Michael Brown or George Floyd. They are lashing out in any and all directions without taking a second for rational thought and adopting positions that they would have called you a liar if you told them they supported this a year ago and will deny ever really supporting what they arguing two years from now.
Look at this situation. ICE went to a house it has reasonable belief illegal sex predators lived at. They performed a search pursuant to standard procedures. The kind of routine activity that has taken place everyone's entire life (except the Biden years, when criminals were allowed to stay).
But now, in the middle of the panic, trying to deport convicted child predators is NAZISM! How dare ICE try and arrest predators with deportation orders!
Sometime in the future, the same people will claim to always have supported deporting child abusers and it's a lie to suggest they didn't want ICE to try and arrest them.
That is a completely disingenuous comment.
You vote for people who don't want to deport violent criminals and people who've molested children with despite having deportation orders.. Why does pointing that out bother you so much?
Your comment is disingenuous because you do not even mention the Hmong man who was removed from the house half naked. He is a US citizen. Maybe he knows sex offenders, maybe he doesnt, either way they had no cause to arrest him.
That sentence is insanely ridiculous.
They didn't arrest him. They detained him until they could confirm his identity as his description matched one of the people they were seeking
This is how police around the country have operated your whole life.
What do you think sanctuary cities are? Who do you think those crazy ladies blowing whistles and obstructing ICE are protecting?
An exmaple of what "sanctuary cities" mean:
I'm really curious why our sanctuary jurisdiction defenders want illegal aliens like this roaming the streets and are protesting his deportation...
Like Rene Good?
ICE went to a house it has reasonable belief illegal sex predators lived at
If that were true they’d have a warrant. Wtf is wrong with you?
How do you know they didn't? They can't tell the public if they have one or not.
" ICE law enforcement officers cannot show the warrants they are executing to people who aren’t named or involved."
Immigration Enforcement Frequently Asked Questions | ICE
SAINT PAUL, Minn. —
Federal immigration agents forced open a door and detained a U.S. citizen in his Minnesota home at gunpoint without a warrant, then led him out onto the streets in his underwear in subfreezing conditions, according to his family and videos reviewed by The Associated Press.
That was hard. It took you longer to write your garbage magatrash comment than it would have taken you to google it.
"according to his family"
If ICE entered his house illegally, he can sue them and any agents who entered his house illegally.
That's how the system works. I'm sure rabidly anti-ICE lawyers will gladly sue on his behalf, if his case has any merit whatsoever.
Here’s how it is supposed to work: get a fucking warrant to avoid clogging the courts with unnecessary bullshit.
Again...
ICE CANNOT show warrants to people who are not involved.
How do you know the "according to family" live in the house. If they do not, ICE can't show them the warrant.
If "magatrash" is the new liberal stupidity, then I am all in.
Says the guy that wants EVERY illegal that came across the border to get a day...or more...in court. Something not necessary.
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Prokosch said the new policy to allow ICE agents to forcibly enter homes without a judicial warrant “goes against everything the United States has stood for for 250 years,” and was at odds with the value that “your home is your castle.””
Excerpt From
“ICE moves to enter homes without warrants signed by a judge”
Michelle Hackman, Jack Morphet
The Wall Street Journal
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Back when they were a coherent philosophy.
When the tide turns to D control this can be how every piece of shit J6 traitor is put back in prison to start their sentence over from the beginning, where they belong. And make sure that door is cracked in half and off its hinges.
Umm, no that's not how it works. Those people were given a presidential pardon which is absolute, otherwise Trump & Congress would have already voided the Biden pardons.
As for ICE breaking into homes without a warrant, why hasn't any court cases using the 4th Amendment been filed & won? That seems like a slam dunk case to me.
Ha! MAGA explains that that’s not how things work? Too funny. Bruisy Cankles and the rest of the Republican Party has taken us way beyond “how things work”. You broke the seal, opened Pandora’s box, and you’re going to regret it.
Amazingly. They claim they are operating with warrants under the INA. Progressive activists are demanding they have two warrants before arresting criminals with valid deportation orders, which are signed by immigration judges. .
Actually, 77 million of us are perfectly happy with what this president is doing regarding immigration.
Maybe you can join the correct side
That’s hilarious. Polling shows that Trump is drowning in dissatisfaction from those who made the mistake of voting for him.
You can show whatever poll you want, but it remains that 92 percent that voted for him are still very supportive.
You never saw that with your dear leader and his DEI VP.
You can show whatever poll you want, but it remains that 92 percent that voted for him are still very supportive.
My god, the trolling here is out of control. This takes the prize for whopper of the week. It’s like you are vying for a job in this corrupt administration.
Yes and I hope you refrain from continuing with it.
If I wanted to work for a corrupt admin, I would have went to DC 5 years ago.
I'm not a lawyer but I don't see how an administrative warrant can override the 4th Amendment.
Neither am I, nor do I claim to be one, but I believe these warrants cover illegals that have final deportation orders against them already signed by judges.
Those deportation orders may give ICE the authority to search for and arrest these people.
I'm not either, but it's seems a distinction between criminal law and administrative law. They aren't entering home to prosecute people for crimes, they are entering to remove an illegal alien pursuant to a removal order signed by an immigration judge. One district court said that's wrong. One said it's correct. Will have to be decided by a higher court.
So if in the course of arresting the named illegal immigrant they discover an unnamed illegal immigrant they will leave and go get another warrant, right?
They have zero compunction about arresting US citizens , so I doubt they will do well by people inside a house who dont fit the description of the intended target.
If entry is legal any illegal they find would be detainale. Just like if they get a criminal warrant to enter a house on one theory and find evidence of another crime
You just said no warrant was acceptable because they had a named illegal immigrant with deportation orders. .
The old man was NOT harboring anyone.
The home previously was occupied by offenders. It was the last known address. ICE didn't check current home occupant records.
After ICE dragged him out then fingerprinted and took a photo of the old man they LET HIM GO!!!!
They wouldn't let him go if he was guilty!!!!
This is just one example of how ICE is making a lot of mistakes without proper warrants and intel.
It's also an example of the horrific mistakes they are making to collect their own cash bounties and meet a brutal quota system.
They get the cash or meet their quotas even on mistakes and the folks they grab are released.
Your tax dollars are going to unscrupulous ICE goons to make quota and make bank even when they detain Americans.
I bet most employers won't give out bonuses to employees who make colossal mistakes
Remember the story about a family with six kids were ‘gassed’ byICE and they were only coming from a basketball game and passing through the area. The six month old had to receive CPR because of the gas.
Well, like most of these stories from tje left wing sources, the story was not true. Turns out the parents were out rioting with the rest of the rioters and left the kids in the car alone. They should be charged with child abandonment and child endangerment.
Lie.
“If anyone get their news through an opinion site, it certainly makes the rest of us understand how ill informed some are.”
More than likely you did not open the links because you would be afraid to see the truth.
You called my post a lie.
Prove it. I’m sure you can s/
Where is the video of them participating in a riot?
The video you are posting proves nothing.
Yes, I did. As John said there is nothing that constitutes evidence of anything. Sean already tried to grasp at this straw. You speak of what it takes to be ill-informed and then go on to do exactly that.
You did not pay attention. The people highlighted on the vide are the parents of the abandoned children. They put their kids on danger, but leftists don't care that kids are used as pawns.
9.1.4 is for you too.
This goes along the lines with you believing, despite video evidence, that the ICE agent was not hit by the woman who steered an SUV toward him.
Take the blinders off.
Are you denying that the people circled in the picture are the same in the video where the same people are being interviewed about a false report?
What is the point of repeating what is demonstrably a lie? The videos prove it is a lie.
What value is it to post comments that make one look foolish?
Didn't you get the Trump memo? We're not supposed to believe our eye's; they're being controlled by the Mainstream Media! You only think you watched what really happened to Renee Good on all those different angle videos, but you're eyes are being lied to! You only think you saw the January 6th attack on our capital and all those officers being attacked and the capital vandalized and hordes of Trump supporters shouting "Hang Mike Pence!" but that was all an illusion put in your brain by AI and the Deep State mainstream media! It's being sent into your brain via Italian satellites while also changing the code on the electronic voting machines all in a giant plot against the purest most amazing President our nation has ever elected! /s
Or...what we're seeing actually is happening and we're all fucked if we don't vote to kick every single piece of shit Trump supporters out of every political office.
For years I have seen people make fools of themselves on social media sites by pushing nonsense for partisan / ideological reasons. I have never been able to find the logic in making oneself look foolish. How does foolishness advance a point? Does it not do the opposite?
If someone is defending Trump with a brain-dead argument that has been entirely refuted with very persuasive evidence, how does continuing to deny the evidence accomplish anything positive?
Strange.
What is "positive"?
For us, truth is positive. For MAGA, proving one's absolute loyalty to Trump is positive.
We can agree on nothing because our criteria are totally different.
Sometimes it’s almost as if refusal to admit being wrong is digitally coded into their operating system, like they aren’t even a person. Hmph!
An AI would make a vastly superior argument.
Not sure about that. When your starting point is pure ignorance, it’s a struggle to ever end up looking smart.
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