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14 Things the Bible Says NOT to Do, But Hypocritical Bible-Thumpers Do Anyway

  

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Via:  nigel-dogberry  •  10 years ago  •  28 comments

14 Things the Bible Says NOT to Do, But Hypocritical Bible-Thumpers Do Anyway

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Nigel Dogberry
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link   seeder  Nigel Dogberry    10 years ago

This is a video, in case you couldn't tell.

 
 
 
1ofmany
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link   1ofmany    10 years ago

So if you are guilty of one sin, then you might as well be guilty of them all? To Bible Thumpers, this philosophy is the work of the Devil and would lead to a world awash in sin. In the Bible, all sin is not equal and some are obviously greater than others. Homosexuality, for instance,rises to the level of an abomination and is a capital offense. Many other sins don't have any penalty at all. Similarly, murder is a capital offense and jaywalking is not. Both are illegal but nobody sane thinks they are equally offensive.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    10 years ago

Oppppps Hell bound!

Damn that linen wool blend!

 
 
 
1ofmany
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link   1ofmany    10 years ago
I wouldn't take the bible as literal law either but the video states that bible thumpers are hypocrites for essentially believing that some sins are more offensive than others. Sins are unacceptable behaviors. Since we all think that behavior is relative, bible thumpers are no more hypocritical than anybody else.
 
 
 
1ofmany
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link   1ofmany    10 years ago
What the video says is that bible thumpers are hypocritical because they eat pork, for instance, while rejecting homsexuality when both are prohibited in the bible. What I'm saying is that they don't have to accept homsexuality simply because they eat pork. Behaviors are relative and they can certainly believe that homosexuality is a deviant behavior that should never be accepted as normal.
 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    10 years ago

Bruce,

Find the place that the new testament (otherwise known as the laws of Moses) where it says don't follow the old rules. In fact, the testaments closest to Jesus' death (Matthew and Mark) said that you couldn't give up the laws. Christians are supposed to follow these laws. There are some dietary laws that were dropped but not all of the 614 laws.

Christians have struggled to understand exactly what Jesus meant. At first reading, this seems to say that all the Old Testament rules and rituals must still be observed. But Jesus and His disciples did not observe many of those rules and rituals, so it could not mean that.

It is frequently pointed out that the term "the Law" could have many different meanings at the time of Jesus: 1,2

  • The ceremonial laws including "clean" and "unclean" lists, sacrifices, dietary restrictions, ritual washings, etc.
  • The civil law regulating social behavior and specifying crimes, punishments and other rules
  • The moral and ethical laws, such as the Ten Commandments
  • The Pentateuch (the first 5 books of the Bible)
  • The scribal law - the 600+ rules formulated by the scribes that everyone was expected to obey
  • The Scripture as a whole

Jesus did not abolish the moral and ethical laws that had been in effect from the time of Moses. He affirmed and expanded upon those principles, but He said obedience must be from the heart (attitudes and intentions) rather than just technical observance of the letter of the law ( Matthew 5:21-22 , 27-28 , 31-32 , 33-34 , 38-42 , 43-44 , etc.).

However, Jesus and His disciples did not observe the strict scribal rules against doing any work on the Sabbath ( Matthew 12:1-14 , Mark 2:23-28 , 3:1-6 , Luke 6:1-11 , 13:10-17 , 14:1-6 , John 5:1-18 ). Neither did they perform the ritual hand washings before eating ( Matthew 15:1-2 ). In contrast to the dietary rules of the Law, Jesus said no food can defile a person; it is bad attitudes and actions that can make a person unholy ( Matthew 15:1-20 , Mark 7:1-23 ). Jesus frequently criticized the scribal laws ( Matthew 23:23 , Mark 7:11-13 ) and some aspects of the civil law ( John 8:3-5 , 10-11 ).

Therefore, Jesus may have been specifically teaching that the moral and ethical laws in the Scripture would endure until the end of time. That would be consistent with His actions and other teachings. Through His teachings and actions, Jesus revealed the true meaning and intent of the Law.

It is also pointed out that Jesus, Himself, is the fulfillment of the Law ( Matthew 26:28 , Mark 10:45 , Luke 16:16 , John 1:16 , Acts 10:28 , 13:39 , Romans 10:4 ) The sacrifice of Jesus on the cross ended forever the need for animal sacrifices and other aspects of the ceremonial law.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient    10 years ago

Damn that linen wool blend!

I'll bet you got that from watching The West Wing.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    10 years ago

Why Buzz, I did love The West Wing, but no that isn't where I got it from. I have to say that i am enjoying more, "House of Cards". Damn talk about absolute power corrupting absolutely. It is chillingly engaging.

 
 
 
CM
Freshman Silent
link   CM    10 years ago

Amen and Amen Perrie:

Matthew 5:17-20

English Standard Version (ESV)

Christ Came to Fulfill the Law

17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    10 years ago

CM,

You go girl!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient    10 years ago

In the West Wing President Bartlett confronted a bible-pounding woman broadcaster who had called homosexuality an abomination, quoting that from the Old Testament. Bartlett (Martin Sheen) then tore her apart quoting all kinds of biblical sins that called for the death penalty, including the one you quoted.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
Lol - in other words, feel free to pick and choose what to obey and what to condemn. Like bacon? Ignore the bible and eat it until your heart explodes. Got a girlfriend even though you're married? Screw the bible and divorce the bitch! Think homosexuality is icky? Use the bible to your advantage and blatantly discriminate against gays! Are you a woman who is attracted to other women? To hell with the bible, have a same sex relationship! You see how that works, bigot?
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
Oh, but his personal attacks on an entire demographic are okay, because he's got a selective bible quote to back it up.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
Proverbs 23:2 proclaims, Put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony.Fat people should kill themselves. Is that offensive?
 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    10 years ago

LOL, I forgot that Buzz.

I just happen to remember that from Leviticus, and it always cracked me up.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
And for a man to "lay with another man" does not say anything about women in a same sex relationship, but it is interpreted that way by bigots who hate gays. Thanks to the hopeless ambiguity of the so-called infallible and perfect expressions from god known as biblical scripture, can play this all day long.If I interpret that quote as fat people should kill themselves, and go around expressing that opinion and backing it up with that quote, I would be deserving of being called out as a bigot. People like to use religion to express nasty opinions, instead of just shutting the fuck up and keeping their opinions to themselves.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
It's always hilarious when the guy dispensing biblically based morality interpretations is the same guy whose homepage is saturated with pictures of naked sluts with scary looking guns. Something tells me that you aren't the sort to walk out of the room if there's some good girl on girl porn on the tv either. Keep up the good work.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
Likewise - you never fail to brush away your glaring hypocrisy. Some things will never change.
 
 
 
1ofmany
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link   1ofmany    10 years ago

Lol - in other words, feel free to pick and choose what to obey and what to condemn . . .You see how that works, bigot?

Homosexuality is a deviant sexual behavior and, yes, I feel perfectly free to object to it because it's "icky" just like I do other"icky" behaviors like beastiality, incest, pedophilia, and various festishes. You, of course, are equally free to wallow in ickiness. You see how that works, pervert?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
Ickiness is in the eye of the beholder, and contrary to your ignorant opinion, you are no more enlightened of a beholder than any other good person on this planet ... bigot.
 
 
 
1ofmany
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link   1ofmany    10 years ago
Ickiness is in the eye of the beholder, and contrary to your ignorant opinion, you are no more enlightened of a beholder than any other good person on this planet ... bigot.
A perfect description of my opinion of you.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
But ... but ... I thought I was a pervert! Even though you and I are both heterosexuals, somehow I'm a pervert because I don't talk down to homosexuals like subhumans. Make up your mind - am I a pervert, or am I just unenlightened?
 
 
 
1ofmany
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link   1ofmany    10 years ago
But ... but ... I thought I was a pervert! Even though you and I are both heterosexuals, somehow I'm a pervert because I don't talk down to homosexuals like subhumans. Make up your mind - am I a pervert, or am I just unenlightened?
Being a pervert and unelightened are not mutually exclusive so you can be both. If I'm a bigot for what I believe, then your beliefs mark you a pervert. And I saidhomosexuals were deviant not subhuman.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
'Mind your own business about thinks that don't concern you' makes one a pervert?! I think your pal JC might disagree with that. You have a truly warped worldview.
 
 
 
1ofmany
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link   1ofmany    10 years ago
'Mind your own business about thinks that don't concern you' makes one a pervert?!
No, advocating perversion as normal makes you a pervert. The best way to keep deviant behavior private is to avoid making it public.
You have a truly warped worldview.
Again, I have the same view of you.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
Two men buying gifts for one another, or buying a house together, or cooking a meal together, or attending a concert together, or taking care of one another when sick - these are deviant behaviors? Oh, that's right, I forgot that the only thing you can envision on the topic of same sex couples is gay sex, which you find deviant. Never mind the fact that heterosexual couples engage in the same forms of sex. I wonder how deviant you and your lady are? Oh my, I just had a visual - you pervert.
 
 
 
1ofmany
Sophomore Silent
link   1ofmany    10 years ago

Two men buying gifts for one another, or buying a house together, or cooking a meal together, or attending a concert together, or taking care of one another when sick - these are deviant behaviors? Oh, that's right, I forgot that the only thing you can envision on the topic of same sex couples is gay sex, which you find deviant . . .

You make the astoundingly obvious observation that, but for the deviant behavior, deviants are normal. Anyway, if you decide to have to have sex with a horse or a child or your mother or a cheese sandwich, then you are deviant and you're still deviant even though you and the cheese sandwich buy a house together, cook together, and watch movies together.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
In your twisted reality, a same sex consenting adult human is equal to a child, horse, mother AND a cheese sandwich. Any other nuggets of wisdom you care to depart on us lessors?
 
 

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