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Ender

Let Your Freak Flag Fly

  
By:  Ender  •  Talk and Dialogue  •  last year  •  52 comments

Let Your Freak Flag Fly

Every time I read the news there is always an article about some kind of anti LGBT activism going on.

I have yet to understand the almost complete hatred some have surrounding anything that has to do with sexual orientation.

To be honest, I fail to see how someone's sexuality is political at all. We have people's very lives being used as an agenda to attack some perceived mortal sin that people need to be shielded from at all costs.

Why does it bother some Republicans to the point of them getting hysterical over something that is none of their business and has zero impact on them at all?

Why does it bother some people to the point they would attack someone.


Florida man faces hate crimes charges for brutal & intense harassment of gay family

Click Orlando reports that 57-year-old Frank Norviel had allegedly been harassing the couple who lived next door to him for months “primarily based on their sexual orientation,” according to a probable cause affidavit. Norviel is accused of shining lights and yelling slurs at the couple from the fence dividing their properties or while riding a bicycle past their home.

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Norviel is also accused of harassing one of the couple’s children, telling him that he would kill the family’s cat and eat it. He also allegedly told the boy to “shut up” and suggested that the juvenile perform sex acts on his parents “like they trained you to do.”

Here we have a sick bastard that can't keep his perverted thoughts to himself and is actually telling a child to perform sex acts.

It is almost like they themselves have a perverted mind and are projecting their own thoughts. They are showing themselves to be the true perverts.

Even South of the border people are not immune.


Church woman sprays gay couple with holy water: “Get out right now!” “They are not from here,” she said. “They come from other depraved countries to teach immorality to the youth here.”

Sounds familiar right? I won't get into the fact that the man sprayed was a Mexican resident, the same as the woman.

Now it is attacking schools and the school systems, all for some perceived threat against the youth.

Threats not grounded in reality.

Attacks on schools by hardline right wing fanatics, and the policies wanted to be put in place by republicans.


Ron DeSantis appoints anti-LGBTQ+ activist to college board to “reconquer” schools

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has appointed far-right anti-LGBTQ+ activist Christopher Rufo to the board of trustees of the New College of Florida – a school with a reputation for being progressive and queer-friendly.

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He added, “If we can take this high-risk, high-reward gambit and turn it into a victory, we’re going to see conservative state legislators starting to reconquer public institutions all over the United States.”

Rufo said the board is planning a “top-down restructuring” of the school that will involve designing “a new core curriculum from scratch.”

DeSantis brought in this man, who according to the article does not even live in Florida, to make changes to a school.

When they talk of 'reconquer' I can only think they mean restructure in their image.

We have the conservative attacks on school boards. The need for them to take over school boards and restructure schools to fit their narrative.


School board meeting descends into chaos during debate about rights for LGBTQ+ students

Trakel’s speech is immediately hostile. Video of the meeting shows him lambasting the board for allegedly violating Idaho state law based on other proposed curriculum policies and for violating the meeting attendees’ First Amendment rights by not allowing them to criticize school district employees.

“Now, to get on to the exciting part,” he said before attacking the proposed LGBTQ+ anti-discrimination policy and saying he was there under his official position as a state senator.

“You, under Idaho law, are required to maintain the morals and health of all the students… You are going to put all of their moral health and safety at risk, and like I told you before you will face litigation. You call that a threat, I’m telling you that is what will happen. It has already happened in several states and there’s already been rulings on it.”

“Before you waste taxpayer money, before you put a kid in harm’s way, you better throw this policy out and not even consider it.”

I am now thinking that they don't care about the kids at all, only their agenda. This is a republican state senator that is attacking these people.

Of course it doesn't stop there. There have been attacks on public libraries.

Attacking libraries and wanting to throw librarians in jail and or fine them just for having certain books on shelves.


GOP bill would throw librarians in prison if they don’t remove books about sexual or gender identity North Dakota lawmakers are considering legislation to ban books containing “sexually explicit” content from public libraries. Under the proposed law, librarians who refuse to remove books containing such content, which includes depictions of “sexual identity” and “gender identity” as well as “sexual preference,” “sexual intercourse,” and “sexual perversion,” would face 30 days in prison and a $1,500 fine.

So throw people in jail for having books on shelves? This is an actual bill in a state house.

For the life of me, I just cannot understand the complete meltdown some people are having, if not the outright hatred some have, about anything to do with sexuality that does not fit into their neatly packed box where they think everyone should and/or are capable of being exactly the same.

It is time for the culture warriors to understand the only culture war is the one they themselves are waging.


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Ender
Professor Principal
1  author  Ender    last year

I have often thought people that are the most outspoken against anything other than what they consider traditional, to be guilty of actually having those kind of thoughts.

So they repress them and lash out.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  Ender @1    last year

trump emboldened the fucking thumpers. they won't stop until something biblical happens to them.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ender @1    last year
ave often thought people that are the most outspoken against anything other than what they consider traditional,

Right. Anyone who objects to normalizing incest has incestous feelings. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.2.1  author  Ender  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2    last year

Typical. Bring out the old trope that gay people are pedophiles.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
1.2.2  afrayedknot  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2    last year

“Anyone who objects to normalizing incest has incestous feelings.”

Unless, of course, there is a fetus involved. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  afrayedknot @1.2.2    last year
“Anyone who objects to normalizing incest has incestous feelings.” Unless, of course, there is a fetus involved

What an asinine comment.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  afrayedknot @1.2.2    last year

funny how thumpers always conveniently forget about adam and eve, and every generation beyond them...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @1.2.4    last year
funny how thumpers always conveniently forget about adam and eve, and every generation beyond them...

That fits right in with the comment you replied to.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.2.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ender @1.2.1    last year
Bring out the old trope that gay people are pedophiles.

Where the hell did you see pedophiles in that? He said incest which has very little to do specifically with gay people OR pedophiles.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.2.7  author  Ender  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.6    last year

My point being incest and pedophilia both have nothing to do with it except in the mind of the guy from Florida in the article.

And maybe some here....

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.6    last year

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Ender
Professor Principal
1.2.9  author  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.8    last year

Says the person that has not said one thing about what was written.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.2.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ender @1.2.1    last year
ring out the old trope that gay people are pedophiles.

Lol. No rational  reading of what I wrote  can be interpreted that way.  I guess you definitely   think gay people are pedophiles given your outspokenness. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.2.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ender @1.2.7    last year
And maybe some here...

Apparently yours.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.2.12  Sean Treacy  replied to  devangelical @1.2.4    last year

As you conveniently demonstrate, some are open about their desire to normalize  incest as well.. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.2.14  author  Ender  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.12    last year

You have nothing but projection. Be gone.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.2.15  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ender @1.2.14    last year
All I did was point out another traditional more in the context of your post and you started making crazy accusations that bore no relation to my post.  If you want to go around applying  third grade psychology,  maybe apply it to how you reacted.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
1.2.16  Greg Jones  replied to  devangelical @1.2.4    last year

adam and eve didn't exist

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.17  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.10    last year
you definitely think gay people are pedophiles

not even close to the catholic clergy, statistically...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.18  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @1.2.17    last year

Are you including gay clergymen?  What are the stats?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.19  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.12    last year

wrong, I'm not catholic, I married one. for my family's combined efforts to help dilute their DNA and to deprogram the religious based sexual deviance indoctrination for the betterment of mankind.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.2.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  devangelical @1.2.19    last year

wrong, I'm not catholic,

No shit, you are pushing for incest to be normalized.  Keep it to yourself. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
1.2.21  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @1.2.19    last year

Is that how DNA works?

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
1.2.22  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.20    last year

Biden supports incest, are you surprised his supporters do?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
1.2.23  afrayedknot  replied to  George @1.2.22    last year

“Biden supports incest…”

That level of ignorance may require a cite, if only to exonerate the idiocy. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
1.2.24  George  replied to  afrayedknot @1.2.23    last year

You will just blame the shower, and not Biden for taking them with his teenage daughter. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.26  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.20    last year
you are pushing for incest to be normalized

nope, I don't belong to the trumpster confederacy or go to their family reunions.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.2.27  Trout Giggles  replied to  afrayedknot @1.2.2    last year

lol

yeah...incest is horrible until some dad knocks up his daughter....Abortion for her? Fuck no! She's carrying that thing to term and then raising it

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
1.2.28  arkpdx  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.3    last year

Look who made the comment. Enough said. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.29  devangelical  replied to  arkpdx @1.2.28    last year

ditto...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    last year

I'm proud to be an out straight guy....

but I don't go around displaying it for all to see.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1  author  Ender  replied to  Greg Jones @3    last year

So people can't tell your straight by looking at you?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
3.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Ender @3.1    last year

No, and I feel no need to tell them because it's none of their business.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Ender @3.1    last year

the leather chaps are a dead give away...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @3    last year

that might get you a reach around in a bar around 32nd and lowell...

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
3.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Greg Jones @3    last year

I don’t particularly take “pride” in being a straight guy, its just who I am. Frankly I think it’s kinda weird to take pride in something like that, it isn’t really an achievement/accomplishment or something you had to work towards.

But hey, to each their own I guess.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.4  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @3    last year
I'm proud to be an out straight guy....

You may have a cookie. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4  Hal A. Lujah    last year

Little known fact:  Jesus was a [Deleted]

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
4.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    last year

Wasn’t he banging Mary though? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Thrawn 31 @4.1    last year

Mary Magdalene, yes. He even fathered a child with her

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
4.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    last year

Oh my, apparently I was being hateful and discriminatory by not spelling out the entire word.  Let me rephrase then:  Jesus was a homosexual.

The English language is so fickle.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2    last year

I thought maybe you called him the word that the British use as slang for a cigarette

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    last year

What did you say????

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
4.3.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.3    last year

Apparently spelling the word “homosexual” with only the first four letters is hateful and discriminatory … unless you are a homosexual, in which case it’s like the N word for African Americans.  Like I said, the English language is very fickle.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
5  Thrawn 31    last year

Some people are waaaaay too concerned about other people’s sex lives. Long as it is between consenting adults I couldn’t give less of a shit. You do you.

IMO the more prejudice and anger one displays in regards to someone else’s sexuality is directly correlated to their own self loathing for participating or the desire to participate in that same lifestyle. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6  Trout Giggles    last year

They're trying to pass a law here in Arkansas that would force drag shows to be treated as adult entertainment like strip clubs.

Would someone please tell me what kind of sexual stuff goes on at drag shows? I thought they just danced and sing.

They were out in full force yesterday protesting at the State Capitol

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.1  author  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    last year

Nothing sexual at all. My point being earlier that most of these bigots have these weird thoughts in their own minds.

I feel for you with another Huckster in charge.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @6.1    last year

The guy that wrote the bill looks like he has some secrets in his closet, He's sketchy

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
7  Kavika     last year

The Florida politician that authored the ''don't say gay'' bill was just indicted on fraud charges and resigned. The righties are so morally upright ya know...Nothing but a bunch of immoral hypocrites. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
8  Greg Jones    last year

Some libs seem to "get it".  Seems to be no hope for the core hard left.

 

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
9  Thomas    last year

I thought we were beyond this type of shit

I am now thinking that they don't care about the kids at all, only their agenda.

Oh, yeah. That's right. It is politics that keeps these types of arguments going. Way back when I wrote an article about traction as applied to ideas and especially politicians. The politicians, from my observation, generally do not even care what they are using as a wedge-de-jur to separate the people into neat little blocks, so long as they get their votes. 

Just read an article on a related topic. Here is the link .

Makes me sick to think of the lengths that some people will go to deny other peoples' very existence.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
10  Buzz of the Orient    last year

In Toronto my dentist was gay.  I guess it was his business to shove his tools in my mouth, but it never converted me from being straight.

I'm beginning to get the feeling that the article about the decline of the IQ in America is not satire or science fiction.