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Only A Sick Culture Worships Guns - Wonkette

  
Via:  John Russell  •  2 years ago  •  39 comments

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Only A Sick Culture Worships Guns - Wonkette
The problem isn't that we as a nation aren't violent enough. The problem is that we worship tools of violence. That is what distinguishes America from every other developed nation that has video games, porn, legalized abortion, and people who suffer from mental illness. Here, after the latest mass shooting, Americans hold their loved ones even tighter, but unfortunately they are too often an AR-15.

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Whenever there's a regularly scheduled mass shooting, Republicans are desperate to blame something, anything, other than the guns that murdered all the people. Monday's massacre at The Covenant School in Nashville gave them a new target, and we'll unfortunately cover their transphobic garbage as it develops. However, let's never stop talking about the American Right's sick gun culture. These aren't people who just own guns for self-defense and other assorted Clint Eastwood purposes. They romanticize guns all out of proportion, like Woody Allen's black-and-white and exclusively all-white Manhattan.

Here's Rep. Andy Ogles, the gun fetishist who represents Tennessee's grotesquely gerrymandered fifth congressional district, which technically includes Nashville. Republicans took a dull knife to the liberal city, effectively neutralizing its political power and robbing its residents, who make most of the money that pays for the state's existence, of true representation. Instead, the good people of Nashville are represented by this fool.


Moms Demand Action founder Shannon Watts shared Ogle's Christmas card from 2021, which features his family posing in front of a Christmas tree while armed with assault rifles, the ultimate stocking stuffer. I'm not a gun expert, but it looks like Ogle is holding his weapon upside down. Regardless, it's uncomfortably close to his youngest child, who at least isn't packing heat himself.

On "Star Trek," the fierce but honorable Klingons worship a warrior god. That's at least internally consistent. The Ogles are commemorating the birth of their savior, the "prince of peace," with an aggressive display of firepower. Christians should rightly consider Ogle's card blasphemous, but maybe Christian conservatives don't worship Jesus so much as the AR-15.

Professional terrible person Laura Ingraham claimed last night that liberals "believe citizens should have unlimited access to porn, weed, and abortion frankly even after birth." Ingraham is a real kill joy about porn and the demon reefer, but most people who enjoy both don't make them the focal point of their Christmas cards. That's just weird.

There is also no such thing as abortion "after birth," unless you count the school shootings that Republicans are doing shit-all to stop. They can only suggest after-the-fact "solutions" that won't actually save any lives.

Not long after news about the Nashville shooting broke, Sen. Rick Scott from Florida tweeted, "We need to consider an automatic death penalty for school shooters. Life in prison is not enough for the deranged monsters who go into our schools to kill innocent kids & educators. Pray for all facing the unimaginable in Nashville. This is horrible & must stop.


As Richard Pryor would say, "dig how ignorant" Rick Scott is. He's literally responding to an article telling us that the police killed the shooter. According to a statistical analysis from Adam Lankford, an associate professor of criminal justice at the University of Alabama who studies mass shootings rather than spitballing radical policy positions on Twitter, few mass shooters escape the scene of their crimes. He writes, "Mass shooters died in 48 percent of the attacks studied, 38 percent by their own hand and the remaining by 'suicide by cop' - using weapons to intentionally provoke police, who are trained to shoot and kill in life-threatening situations."

State-sanctioned vengeance might feel good but it's also not very good at preventing mass shootings. Very few school shooters conduct a cost-benefit analysis before deciding to murder a lot of people, very quickly. Does Scott imagine a seriously disturbed individual would ever think, "Oh gosh, I might receive an automatic death penalty for my horrible crime! Guess I'll just write a nasty letter to my potential victims instead."

The problem isn't that we as a nation aren't violent enough. The problem is that we worship tools of violence. That is what distinguishes America from every other developed nation that has video games, porn, legalized abortion, and people who suffer from mental illness. Here, after the latest mass shooting, Americans hold their loved ones even tighter, but unfortunately they are too often an AR-15.

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

Finally we are seeing some media and social media coverage of "gun love" as an issue.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago
Finally we are seeing some media and social media coverage of "gun love" as an issue.

Are we only supposed to worship bigger guns?  Biden has spent more money on guns over the last year than the entire population of the United States.  Biden's solution to every foreign problem has been more guns.

Everybody wants to be a Marine.  Semper fi.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

Finally ally we are seeing some media and social media coverage of "gun love" as an issue.

i suppose if you’ve been asleep for 30 years, that applies.

every time the shooters ideology cant be blamed, it’s Guns. When the shooters ideology can somehow be made politically useful for democrats, it’s said ideology. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2    2 years ago
i suppose if you’ve been asleep for 30 years, that applies. every time the shooters ideology cant be blamed, it’s Guns. When the shooters ideology can somehow be made politically useful for democrats, it’s said ideology. 

We've heard all this shit since 1994.  Didn't Bill Clinton screw up bigley by accepting a sunset on the Assault Weapons Ban?  Democrats had exactly what they wanted and pissed it all away.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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1.2.2  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Nerm_L @1.2.1    2 years ago
We've heard all this shit since 1994.  Didn't Bill Clinton screw up bigley by accepting a sunset on the Assault Weapons Ban?  Democrats had exactly what they wanted and pissed it all away.

Nah , bill didnt screw up, he didnt have line item veto, so he couldnt remove that clause , and without that clause it wouldnt have made it through congress to his desk to be signed because it wouldnt have had the votes , so he settled for what he got, as did the democrats in congress , hoping they would be sitting in a better position 10 years later  .

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.3  Nerm_L  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @1.2.2    2 years ago
Nah , bill didnt screw up, he didnt have line item veto, so he couldnt remove that clause , and without that clause it wouldnt have made it through congress to his desk to be signed because it wouldnt have had the votes , so he settled for what he got, as did the democrats in congress , hoping they would be sitting in a better position 10 years later  .

So, the Assault Weapons Ban wasn't really worth fighting for.  Just check the box and blame someone else for not doing enough.

That's the problem with Democrats.  Give 'em everything they want and they'll just piss it away.  And it's always someone else's fault.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2  Sparty On    2 years ago

Yep, Free Speech can be a real bitch when one disagrees with it.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3  Right Down the Center    2 years ago

"The problem is that we worship tools of violence."

The second sentence in shows how ridiculous the article is.  Unless you think "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" was real.

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JohnRussell
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3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @3    2 years ago
On "Star Trek," the fierce but honorable Klingons worship a warrior god. That's at least internally consistent.

The Ogles are commemorating the birth of their savior, the "prince of peace," with an aggressive display of firepower.

Christians should rightly consider Ogle's card blasphemous, but maybe Christian conservatives don't worship Jesus so much as the AR-15.
 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    2 years ago

"Aggressive display of firepower" jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

They would actually have to be actually aiming the weapons at something for it to be even remotely aggressive.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    2 years ago
The Ogles are commemorating the birth of their savior, the "prince of peace," with an aggressive display of firepower.

It is a Christmas card dude, not a reason to get everyone's panties in a bunch.

Christians should rightly consider Ogle's card blasphemous, but maybe Christian conservatives don't worship Jesus so much as the AR-15.
Thanks for telling Christians what they should find blasphemous.  Most probably either think the card a bit strange or don't give it a serious thought at all .  What some Christians may find blasphemous is someone accusing them of worshiping guns more than Jesus.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.2    2 years ago
Thanks for telling Christians what they should find blasphemous. 

Very bizarre comment on your part. Very. 

I am a Christian and associating Jesus with weapons that are designed to kill human beings is blasphemous. 

Then again maybe Ogles and his family are not Christians at all. Maybe they are atheists. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    2 years ago
Very bizarre comment on your part. Very. 

That is your opinion and you are welcome to it

I am a Christian and associating Jesus with weapons that are designed to kill human beings is blasphemous. 

I am also a Christian and I didn't think anything of it at all, certainly not that it was blasphemous.  Once again, it is a Christmas card, nothing more.  Unless you (or I ) is the pope maybe we should not be speaking for what all Christians think is or should be blasphemous.  So again what you say is your opinion, sort of like everything on MSNBC.

Then again maybe Ogles and his family are not Christians at all. Maybe they are atheists. 

Maybe, maybe not.  One more time, it is a Christmas card.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    2 years ago

You can't be a Christian, John! You're a GD liberal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.5    2 years ago

I wasn't aware the two were mutually exclusive 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    2 years ago
Then again maybe Ogles and his family are not Christians at all. Maybe they are atheists.

Trust me, atheists would never associate Jesus with weapons that are designed to kill human beings.  Neither do they worship guns.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.8  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.5    2 years ago
You can't be a Christian, John! You're a GD liberal!!

According to the bible, so was Jesus.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.7    2 years ago

I guess they could be Muslims

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.8    2 years ago

Oooo...that's blasphemy, Ozz!!! They're be coming for ya

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.11  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.10    2 years ago
They're be coming for ya

Came and left.  Just offered up some virginal daughters for them so they'd leave.  I read somewhere ( Genesis 19 ) that it would work.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1.12  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.3    2 years ago

"I am a Christian"   

I beg to differ. You don't appear to have any Christian values at all, from your whole scale condemnation and intolerance of others.

Also....you violate this admonition.  Matthew 7:1-2

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.11    2 years ago

LOL!

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.14  cjcold  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.7    2 years ago

The holy cross itself is an instrument of torture and murder.

One can actually find crosses online that conceal knife blades.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.1.15  Ozzwald  replied to  cjcold @3.1.14    2 years ago

One can actually find crosses online that conceal knife blades.

Amateurs!!!

I would settle for nothing less than................................

holy-hand-grenade-cover.jpg

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.16  cjcold  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.15    2 years ago

The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!

Run Away!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4  Ed-NavDoc    2 years ago

The author is correct in that he certainly is no gun expert in that Ogle is indeed holding the weapon right side up pointed at the ceiling and not toward his daughter as the author claims. The author is just another anti gunner who cannot even get his facts straight.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4    2 years ago

I think he was fucking with you.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 years ago

I highly doubt it.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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5  Ronin2    2 years ago
Moms Demand Action founder Shannon Watts shared Ogle's Christmas card from 2021, which features his family posing in front of a Christmas tree while armed with assault rifles, the ultimate stocking stuffer. I'm not a gun expert, but it looks like Ogle is holding his weapon upside down. Regardless, it's uncomfortably close to his youngest child, who at least isn't packing heat himself.

"Holding the gun upside down"? Is she really that stupid? Or maybe she is just blind? Guess she has never seen a camo wrap for a muzzle shroud/silencer? Also, prove that any of weapons being held are assault rifles; outside of being "big, black, and scary looking". The family is doing nothing illegal; but anti gun nuts sure like to pretend they are. 

assault rifle , military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and that has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire. Because they are light and portable yet still able to deliver a high volume of fire with reasonable accuracy at modern combat ranges of 1,000–1,600 feet (300–500 metres), assault rifles have replaced the high-powered bolt-action and semiautomatic rifles of the World War II era as the standard infantry weapon of modern armies.

Think any of the weapons they are holding can switch to fully automatic fire? If you can prove it, then let the proper authorities know. I am sure they would love to talk to the Ogles.

The leftist anti gun crowd have lost their collective minds! It would be funny if they weren't so dead set on curtailing a right that is a part of the Constitution. 

 
 
 
George
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6  George    2 years ago
Tennessee's grotesquely gerrymandered fifth congressional district,

Here is a map of the Tennessee congressional district, This writer is a lying POS. grotesquely gerrymandered?  Fucking retard.

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The orange section in the middle is the 5th district. This is grotesquely gerrymandered. Democrats Maryland 3rd.

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George
Senior Expert
7  George    2 years ago

It amazies me that anybody would read or post anything by this fucking Moron, Let's analyze this.

According to a statistical analysis from Adam Lankford, an associate professor of criminal justice at the University of Alabama who studies mass shootings rather than spitballing radical policy positions on Twitter, few mass shooters escape the scene of their crimes. He writes, "Mass shooters died in48 percent of the attacks studied, 38 percent by their own hand and the remaining by 'suicide by cop' - using weapons to intentionally provoke police, who are trained to shoot and kill in life-threatening situations."

I'm surprised he isn't a math fellow, 48% is less than half, so over half escaped, this by definition is more than a few. The writer of this article must be a poster child for liberalism.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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8  Greg Jones    2 years ago

People who appreciate the value and protection afforded by guns (rather than "love" them) are not the people who become mass shooters.

 In almost all mass shootings the guns were legally purchased....so more gun laws are not the answer.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

It is amusing to see progressives demand more gun control at the same progressive prosecutors are bragging about not prosecuting people for gun crimes and left wing media claims enforcing gun laws is racist. 

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
9.1  charger 383  replied to  Sean Treacy @9    2 years ago

Funny when they get caught in a trap of their own making

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
9.2  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @9    2 years ago

Sorry but that is complete bullshit!

Blaming "progressive prosecutors" (HUH?)  and "left wing media" for the words and deeds of right wingers is highly disingenuous.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
9.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sean Treacy @9    2 years ago

Kind of like the "Squad" leftist libs that are anti gun and want more ultra strict gun control to go along with their defunding the police, yet have zero problem paying exorbitant amounts for personal protection from private bodyguards paid for by tax dollars.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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11  Hal A. Lujah    2 years ago

Not to mention BORING.  I attended a Christmas party last year with hundreds of people and wandered into a conversation where this guy would not shut up about his gun collection.  A couple others in this circle were just mesmerized with every word coming out of his mouth about his array of shotguns, pistols, machine guns, and some ridiculous sniper thing that shoot giant bullets.  I was a new employee of this company so I had to act like I was interested in this tripe until I could extract myself from the dullest conversation on earth.  I looked at this guy’s LinkedIn account later and in his honors and awards he had listed the following:

Past Eminent Commander:

Presiding Officer, Knights Templar

32nd Degree Mason

Past South Central Club President

Order of Knight Preceptor

Honorary Degrees:

Order of the Silver Trowel, Council of Anointed Kings

Past High Priest. Hanover Royal Arch

Presiding Officer:

Past Trice Illustrious Master

Past Illustrious Master Presiding Officer  of Masonic Blue Lodge of Free Masons

What kind of freak puts this stuff in their LinkedIn profile?!  I would rather have taken a bullet than listen to another word from this lunatic gun nut.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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11.1  Ronin2  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @11    2 years ago

Someone showing he is a member of high standing within the Freemasons, and knows that it carries some clout in certain sectors of the business world. 

Isn't LinkedIn for Business networking? 

 

 
 

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