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Auschwitz Museum Hits Foxs Greg Gutfeld on Holocaust Remark

  
Via:  John Russell  •  2 years ago  •  22 comments

By:   Tommy Christopher (Mediaite)

Auschwitz Museum Hits Foxs Greg Gutfeld on Holocaust Remark
Fox News host Greg Gutfeld drew a rebuke from the Auschwitz Museum for a comment he made about the Holocaust — in defense of the Florida slavery curriculum.

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Fox News host Greg Gutfeld drew a rebuke from the Auschwitz Museum, among others, for a comment he made to colleague Jessica Tarlov about the Holocaust — in defense of the controversial new Florida slavery curriculum.

Tarlov and her co-hosts debated the newly-approved Florida curriculum on Black history — which includes teaching that "slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit" — on Monday's edition of Fox News Channel's The Five.

That debate included this stunning exchange in which Tarlov — who is Jewish — asks a hypothetical analogizing the Florida standards to a similar premise about the millions slaughtered by the Nazis and Gutfeld had a quick reply:


JESSICA TARLOV: I do think that she read the whole thing, and I think that it's an incredibly complex piece when you look at it, 191 passages. You have some good… And frankly, I'm just fundamentally uncomfortable with the sentence that Blacks benefited at all from this. And. You know, it made me think of someone. Obviously, I'm not Black, but I'm Jewish. Would someone say about the Holocaust, for instance, that there were some benefits for Jews? Right? While they were hanging out in concentration camps. You learned a strong work ethic, right? Maybe you learned a new skill.
GREG GUTFELD: Did you ever read 'Man's Search for Meaning'? Vik Frankel talks about how you had to survive in a concentration camp by having skills. You had to be useful. Utility, utility kept you alive!

The remark drew a lengthy rebuke from the Auschwitz Museum on Twitter:


While it is true that some Jews may have used their skills or usefulness to increase their chances of survival during the Holocaust, it is essential to contextualize this statement properly and understand that it does not represent the complex history of the genocide perpetrated by Nazi Germany.

Viktor Frankl's observation about the specific situation in Auschwitz, which at some point became a camp that connected the functions of a concentration camp and extermination center and where deported Jews went through the selection process, highlights how some Jews became registered prisoners and might have used their skills to gain favor or prolong their lives in that particular setting. Yet, it never gave them complete protection.

However, we must not overlook the larger picture of the Holocaust. Nazi Germany's ultimate goal was to exterminate all the people it considered Jews (Nazis created their racial definition of a Jewish person). Millions of Jews were brutally murdered in execution sites, mainly across the east of occupied Europe, with entire communities wiped out regardless of their usefulness or contributions to society. While some of the ghettos seemed to have the goal of being productive and Jews were used as slave labor there, being "useful" did not guarantee safety, as the Nazis eventually decided to liquidate them, leading to the murder of those considered valuable as well.

There were no selections in extermination camps, such as Treblinka or Sobibor, and almost all deported Jews were murdered upon arrival, irrespective of any perceived usefulness. Being skilled or useful did not spare them from the horrors of the gas chambers.

Furthermore, during the final stages of the Holocaust, as the Nazi system was collapsing, concentration camp prisoners were evacuated to shrinking camp systems, resulting in the death of many. In these circumstances, being useful did not offer protection either.

Therefore, while it is accurate to acknowledge that some Jews may have survived temporarily due to their perceived usefulness, it is crucial to remember that the Holocaust was a systematic genocide with the ultimate aim of exterminating the entire Jewish population. It would be more appropriate to say that some Jews survived the Holocaust because they were considered temporarily useful, and the circumstances of the Nazi regime's collapse prevented their murder. We should avoid such oversimplifications in talking about this complex tragic story.

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

Our current crop of right wingers will stop at nothing to offend people. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

256

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1.1  Thomas  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1    2 years ago

Just like you did right there. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Thomas @1.1.1    2 years ago

Other than the fact I am not offended, sure, whatever you say.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     2 years ago

JHC, the dumbasses never cease to amaze me.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    2 years ago
ik Frankel talks about how you had to survive in a concentration camp by having skills. You had to be useful. Utility, utility kept you alive!

The point is, MOOSH NOOSH, that nobody should have had to be useful in a concentration/extermination camp! They never should have existed!

I am simply amazed at the amount of navel gazing that goes on at Fox News

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    2 years ago

Being useful was stuffing your entire family into the ovens after stripping them of gold teeth. That got you maybe an extra month of slow death by starvation.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4  Right Down the Center    2 years ago

While it is true that some Jews may have used their skills or usefulness to increase their chances of survival during the Holocaust, it is essential to contextualize this statement properly and understand that it does not represent the complex history of the genocide perpetrated by Nazi Germany.

Hmm, so what Greg said was true but they felt he needed to say more even though the actual subject was Florida.  On an entertainment show where they talk about a subject for about 5 minutes.

If your goal is to be insulted by something you will always find it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    2 years ago

The Auschwitz Museum was offended. Does that offend you? 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 years ago

No, they are hyper sensitive.

What should have offended them was someone comparing Florida's new African American history curriculum to the Holocaust. That is very offensive.

Oh, and by the way- here is one of the "racists" that helped set up Florida's new curriculum.

Guess he isn't "black" enough for leftists.

In the land of perpetually offended leftists reign supreme.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 years ago

No, the Auschwitz Museum is not a person.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.1    2 years ago
Supporters of the new curriculum say the new descriptions and examples are factual and well-documented.

“Everything is there,” said MaryLynn Magar, who was appointed to the board by Gov. Ron DeSantis this spring. “The darkest parts of our history are addressed, and I’m very proud of the task force. I can confidently say that the DOE and the task force believe that African American history is American history, and that’s represented in those standards.”

However, opponents say   it is whitewashing history , highlighting complaints such as — it leaves out Florida's role in slavery and the oppression of African Americans, identifies racism and prejudice without going into depth about who was promoting it, victim-blames Black communities, uses outdated language, and requires teaching that some enslaved people learned valuable skills that were useful after they were freed.

The NAACP spoke out against the changes, saying Florida history books now “convey a sanitized and dishonest telling of the history of slavery in America.”

“Today’s actions by the Florida state government are an attempt to bring our country back to a 19th century America where Black life was not valued, nor our rights protected. It is imperative that we understand that the horrors of slavery and Jim Crow were a violation of human rights and represent the darkest period in American history,” said NAACP President & CEO Derrick Johnson. “Our children deserve nothing less than truth, justice, and the equity our ancestors shed blood, sweat, and tears for.”

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.1    2 years ago

I'm still trying to figure out what Kamala Harris lied about. She quoted from the standards. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.1    2 years ago

“Any attempt to reduce slaves to just victims of oppression fails to recognize their strength, courage and resiliency during a difficult time in American history,” according to Allen and Presley Rice in full gaslighting mode. “Florida students deserve to learn how slaves took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves and the community of African descendants.”

Are we supposed to be surprised and gratified that enslaved people gained skills? Are they imagining that our assumption would be every single one of the millions of people enslaved in the United States over the years functioned as the witless property their enslavers tried to force them to be? They’re framing “[i]nstruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit” as some kind of statement of empowerment, but all it says is that of the many people who developed and exercised skills because it benefited their owners for them to do so, a very few were allowed to benefit from it at all, and whatever small benefit they got was within the context of being treated as property. One of the main things enslaved people did with any money they were allowed to earn was try to save up to buy their freedom, or that of their family members. That’s the kind “personal benefit” involved here.

Allen and Presley Rice want us to believe that it’s disrespectful to enslaved people to not talk about how they “took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves and the community of African descendants,” but you can do that without implying the system was set up to enable that, as the Florida Black history benchmark does.

The Florida Black history guidelines and their glaring offenses against the teaching of Black history are inherently a part of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ efforts to gut teaching about anything that might possibly offend right-wing white parents. The standards specifically mention Ruby Bridges, but just months ago a Disney movie about Bridges was   removed from schools  in one Florida county. Florida law enacted under DeSantis has textbook publishers so scared of telling the truth about Black history that one  removed mentions of race  from the Rosa Parks story. DeSantis faced off against the College Board with demands to weaken the curriculum in an Advanced Placement African American Studies class. The Florida Board of Education has no standing to deny that any curriculum it approves will be watered down at best.
 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.6  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.2    2 years ago
the Auschwitz Museum is not a person.

It's 1.1million dead persons and one would have to be spiritually dead not to sense them while walking through the complex.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @4.1.6    2 years ago

No doubt. Also irrelevant to the topic of gutfeld 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.7    2 years ago

You brought it up

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.8    2 years ago

No, actually I answered a question.  Unless gutfeld offended the people that died there 4.1.6 is irrelevant.  Nice try though.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.9    2 years ago

so you were right.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.10    2 years ago

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