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The bizarre secret behind China's spy balloon - CBS News

  
Via:  John Russell  •  2 years ago  •  19 comments

By:   David Martin (cbssunday)

The bizarre secret behind China's spy balloon - CBS News
Earlier this year America's military defenses were put on notice against a Chinese balloon believed to be on an espionage mission. Gen. Mark Milley talks about what we've learned from an examination of the balloon's wreckage.

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By David Martin

September 17, 2023 / 9:26 AM / CBS News

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It was surely the most bizarre crisis of the Biden administration: America's top-of-the-line jet fighters being sent up to shoot down, of all things, a balloon - a Chinese spy balloon that was floating across the United States, which had the nation and its politicians in a tizzy.

Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment - and it's a high-confidence assessment - [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.

So, why was it over the United States? There are various theories, with at least one leading theory that it was blown off-track.

The balloon had been headed toward Hawaii, but the winds at 60,000 feet apparently took over. "Those winds are very high," Milley said. "The particular motor on that aircraft can't go against those winds at that altitude."

The balloon floated over Alaska and Canada, and then down over the lower 48, to Billings, Montana, where photographer Chase Doak, who had studied photojournalism in college, recorded it from his driveway. "I just happened to notice, out of the corner of my eye, a white spot in the sky. I, of course, landed on the most logical explanation, that it was an extra-terrestrial craft!" he laughed. "Took a photo, took a quick video, and then I grabbed a few coworkers just to make sure that I wasn't seeing things, and had them take a look at it."

Martin said, "You'll probably never take a more famous picture."

"No, I don't think I ever will!" Doak said.

In January a Chinese balloon, possibly on an espionage mission, entered U.S. air space and floated across the continent, becoming an object of both media bemusement and diplomatic consternation. Chase Doak/Reuters

He tipped off the Billings Gazette, which got its own picture, and he told anybody who asked they could use his free of charge. "I didn't want to make anything off it," Doak said. "I thought it was a national security issue, and all of America needed to know about it."

As a U-2 spy plane tracked the 200-foot balloon, Secretary of State Antony Blinken called off a crucial trip to China. On February 3 he called China's decision to fly a surveillance balloon over the Continental United States "both unacceptable and irresponsible."

A U.S. Air Force U-2 pilot looks down at the suspected Chinese surveillance balloon on February 3, 2023 as it hovers over the central Continental United States. Department of Defense via Getty Images

President Joe Biden ordered the Air Force to shoot it down as soon as it reached the Atlantic Ocean.

Col. Brandon Tellez planned the February 4 operation, which was to shoot the balloon down once it was six miles off the coast.

Martin said, "On paper, it looks like this colossal mismatch - one of this country's most sophisticated jet fighters against a balloon with a putt-putt motor. Was it a sure thing?"

"It's a sure thing, no doubt," Tellez replied.

"It would have been an epic fail!"

"Yes sir, it would have been! But if you would've seen that, you know, first shot miss, there would've been three or four right behind it that ended the problem," Tellez said.

But it only took a single missile, which homed in on the heat of the sun reflected off the balloon.

An air-to-air missile made contact and ... Pop! CBS News

After the Navy raised the wreckage from the bottom of the Atlantic, technical experts discovered the balloon's sensors had never been activated while over the Continental United States.

Wreckage from the Chinese balloon being collected from the Atlantic Ocean. Department of Defense

But by then, the damage to U.S.-China relations had been done. On May 21, President Biden remarked, "This silly balloon that was carrying two freight cars' worth of spying equipment was flying over the United States, and it got shot down, and everything changed in terms of talking to one another."

So, Martin asked, "Bottom line, it was a spy balloon, but it wasn't spying?"

Milley replied, "I would say it was a spy balloon that we know with high degree of certainty got no intelligence, and didn't transmit any intelligence back to China."

David Martin

David Martin is CBS News' National Security Correspondent.

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago
Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment - and it's a high-confidence assessment - [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.

So, why was it over the United States? There are various theories, with at least one leading theory that it was blown off-track.

The balloon had been headed toward Hawaii, but the winds at 60,000 feet apparently took over. "Those winds are very high," Milley said. "The particular motor on that aircraft can't go against those winds at that altitude."

Remember all the national hysteria over that balloon? I think we even had some far right folks who wanted us to go to war with China over that balloon. 

Now, cooler heads have prevailed and we learn it was basically a big nothingburger. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

I do remember and all the hysteria over it

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.2    2 years ago

First of all, you are commenting to someone who you know has you on ignore.

Second, your comment was no value. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.3    2 years ago

I'm not allowed to let any one know I have them on ignore.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.4    2 years ago

her comment was not no value. she said she remembered the hysteria.  what is no value about that? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.6    2 years ago

nothing. It's just a reason to bitch. Again.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2  Nerm_L    2 years ago

Ummm ...  TOLD YA SO!!!

As usual the military was lying its brass off just to get more public money.  This is the same military that used a $1 million missile to pop a balloon and then couldn't track the pieces as they fell into the ocean, after weeks of planning.  Half the surface fleet along the Atlantic coast was required to search for debris for over a month.  And they still couldn't figure out what the balloon was doing.

These are same people who can't find a downed aircraft.  These are the same people that botched up the withdrawal from Afghanistan.  These are the same people who tucked tail when Russia was playing games on Ukraine's borders.  Obviously they need lots more money just to maintain that state of readiness.

 
 

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