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Caitlin Clark and Iowa, the unexpected "Great White Hope"

  
Via:  John Russell  •  2 weeks ago  •  49 comments


Caitlin Clark and Iowa, the unexpected "Great White Hope"
 

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How blatantly Stephen A Smith discredits Caitlin Clark because of her being white is hilarious lol


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The writing is on the wall that the WNBA & its athletes are about to grossly miscalculate this Caitlin Clark play to their own detriment and ruin the only chance they have to get in the black bc everyone is mad that the women’s basketball messiah came in the form of a white woman



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@muzicjunkie23
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A lot of Black men have a lot of love for Caitlin Clark. Very v interesting bc the league is made up of about 70% Black women, and I really don’t remember such an outpouring of support for them in my lifetime. Yeah. Weakest links as usual.



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@Iknowsowha

Caitlin Clark is the great white hope. White people are flocking to her because she makes them feel they and their children can cheer one of their own, someone who can beat "them".


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There are few instances in modern day championship team sports that offer the stark contrast that tonights NCAA quarterfinal game between Iowa and LSU does.  Simply put, Iowa is an almost all white women's basketball team, and LSU is a virtually all black team. The same two teams played in last years championship game, and the racial element was there then, but is even more emphasized this time because Caitlin Clark has been anointed the greatest woman player of all time, which gets a lot of black noses out of joint. How dare anyone say a white basketball player (of either sex) is the greatest of all time ? The last time that was demonstrably true was probably around 1950.


Angel Reese, the star player for LSU has pretty openly derided Clark, perhaps out of jealously, perhaps because she feels overlooked in the pecking order, but the racial undertones are unmistakable.


The thing that makes all this the most interesting is that Clark likely is the greatest woman basketball player of all time . She can both dribble the ball between her legs and behind her back while under pressure , but also get a lot of rebounds, make crazily good passes , and hit 30 foot jumpers. 


Iowa games this year have broken all tv records for viewership of college women's games. Ask ourselves the question , would all these people be watching these games if Clark was black? 







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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2  Ronin2    2 weeks ago
Iowa games this year have broken all tv records for viewership of college women's games. Ask ourselves the question , would all these people be watching these games if Clark was black? 

Has to be the stupidest and most racist thing printed this year. Given Brandon and Trump are in full blown liar mode for the upcoming general election- that is saying a lot.

That is like saying the only reason that blacks started watching golf was Tiger Woods; and female tennis because of the Williams sisters.

Nothing like demeaning talented professionals; or the fans that watch them- simply based on race.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @2    2 weeks ago

I actually like Clark and she is one of the greatest college players ever. Nor am I saying that "black" critiques of Clark and Iowa are appropriate. 

However , if you think that television records for viewership of womens sports would have been broken this year if the face of the game was Angel Reese instead of Caitlin Clark you are dreaming. 

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Greg Jones
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2.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 weeks ago

The bigger question is why does this upset you so much?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

you upset me more than the issue discussed in the article does. 

why do you ask irrelevant questions. 

your belief that this upsets me is hilarious. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 weeks ago

So you do agree that the only reason blacks started to watch golf was Tiger Woods; and female tennis is because of the Williams sisters.

Forget the fact that the majority of Woods' fans are white; same with the Williams sisters.

Sometimes a generational talent like MJ, Brady, and probably Mahomes- comes along and draws in fans that had stopped watching the game; and brings in a whole new set of fans.

Has nothing to do with the color of their skin. It has everything to do with their talent, demeanor, and the fact they can elevate not just their own play- but their teammates and opponents as well. They find new ways to win, and make plays that are on hilite reals every week. 

Take it from a very ex stick think, fast but not agile, geek kid that pretended to be Lynn Swann every time he played football. Had nothing to do with the color of his skin. It has everything to do with his body control, athleticism, and catches that made the news every week.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Ronin2 @2    2 weeks ago

"Has to be the stupidest and most racist thing printed this year."

Yep, totally agree on all points!  

I doubt Caitlyn will get caught trying to smuggle some pot into Russia anytime soon.

And best of all, she doesn't seem to be covered in tattoos.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2    2 weeks ago

no racial undertones there ,  eh ?   LOL. 

 
 
 
charger 383
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2.2.2  charger 383  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2    2 weeks ago

You got that right

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.2.3  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

You saw race in that comment?

Wow, just wow.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2.3    2 weeks ago

LOL. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ronin2 @2    2 weeks ago
Ask ourselves the question , would all these people be watching these games if Clark was black? 

Yeah, the NBA tanked after Larry Bird retired. Imagine thinking a black guy like Michael Jordan could carry the league to record popularity. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.3    2 weeks ago

You think if Angel Reese was the all time scoring leader,  her games this year would have set records for tv viewership?

Seriously, that is laughable. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.3.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @2.3.1    2 weeks ago

Color hasn’t hurt Stephen Curry’s popularity.

 
 
 
Outis
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2.3.3  Outis  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.3.2    2 weeks ago

What color is he, anyway? 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.3.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Outis @2.3.3    2 weeks ago

Mocha

 
 
 
Outis
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2.3.5  Outis  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.3.4    2 weeks ago

What race does that equate to?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.3.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Outis @2.3.5    2 weeks ago

The human race.

 
 
 
Outis
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2.3.7  Outis  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.3.6    2 weeks ago

It is, in fact, a tough question. The difficulty resides in the fact that "race" is a social construct, but often treated like a biological one.

"One single drop..."

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.3.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Outis @2.3.7    2 weeks ago

Exactly, they are quick to abandon science for social bullshit.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3  Drinker of the Wry    2 weeks ago

Once again, America shows that many here can't see past color.  Instead of being happy for the the publicity the sport is enjoying or the thrill of watching an exciting player, among a dozen or so, they bring it down and make it about race.

I watch less and less sports these days because the college traditions and the professional players health are sacrificed by the need for more league money, but I'll be watching LSU-Iowa tonight in the big-eight.  It is a great match-up and a rematch from last years final.  Clark and Reese are exciting players and have been competing against each other since before college.

I watch more woman's collage ball than men because their is more player continuity and greater teamwork than on the men's game.  

I think that Clark would have star power regardless of the amount of melanin in her skin.

 
 
 
Outis
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4  Outis    2 weeks ago

"Basketball and race" is a fascinating subject. In America, basketball is primarily Black. Serbia and Lithuania are lily-white.

"Why" is not simple....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5    2 weeks ago

"There is a race war coming tonight"

 
 
 
Outis
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6  Outis    2 weeks ago

Interesting conversation. It demonstrates how "race" permeates American society. Everyone "knows" everything about the topic. 

Not the same thing, of course.

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.1  Kavika   replied to  Outis @6    2 weeks ago
It demonstrates how "race" permeates American society.

It always has and it always will, no matter how many spouting we are in the ''post racial age''.

 
 
 
Outis
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6.1.1  Outis  replied to  Kavika @6.1    2 weeks ago

It's in the nation’s bones... like a cancer.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Outis @6.1.1    2 weeks ago

Caitlin looked like she is in remission tonight.  41 points is pretty healthy. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.1.3  Kavika   replied to  Outis @6.1.1    2 weeks ago

Yes, it is and there is no cure in sight.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

Im not sure what the reason was, and they didnt show it on tv, but evidently the LSU team walked off the court during the pre game national anthem. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @7    2 weeks ago

Is LSU ever on the court for the National Anthem?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1    2 weeks ago

I have no idea. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.1    2 weeks ago

You probably don’t watch LSU on TV in favor of Karen Clark and her white privilege.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.2    2 weeks ago

stop trolling

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.3    2 weeks ago

The seed and the commentary turning a basketball game into a racial issue is trolling.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.4    2 weeks ago

tell that to all the people on social media saying that right now

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.5    2 weeks ago

They don’t give a shit, they just want hits.

A real story is how once again the NCAA has fucked woman sports, from the 3 point line in Portland, send Utah to a distant, racist city in Idaho, to several games with unprofessional officiating.  The NCAA continues to dis woman athletics.  Sexism is the issue here, not racism.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

Iowa won 94-87. Great basketball game. Caitlin Clark scored 41 points. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago
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Damn LSU lost and Clark fucked LSU up…….guess I gotta get ready for that race war
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Drinker of the Wry
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9.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @9    2 weeks ago

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George
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10.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 weeks ago

So are you calling Paul Pierce racist?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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10.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  George @10.1    2 weeks ago

It doesn’t help that Caitlin might be straight.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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10.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 weeks ago

So Pierce usually sees white girls as inherently inferior to black girls. That’s not racist because we know that blacks can’t be racists.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.2    2 weeks ago

none of you get the point. rather than explain it, i will forget about it

last comment - both sides do it.  basketball is perceived to be a "black" game 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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10.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2.1    2 weeks ago
none of you get the point. rather than explain it, i will forget about it

Good call, leave the unexplainable, unexplained.

basketball is perceived to be a "black" game 

Isn't that racist thinking?

 
 
 
Outis
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10.2.3  Outis  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2.1    2 weeks ago

You gave it a good try, John. It's a complicated subject, and half your participants have no intention of making any real effort to understand.

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Drinker of the Wry
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10.2.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Outis @10.2.3    2 weeks ago
You gave it a good try, John.

Good try, when?

It's a complicated subject, and half your participants have no intention of making any real effort to understand.

What’s complicated?  What do you understand about this?

 
 
 
Outis
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10.2.5  Outis  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.2.4    2 weeks ago
What do you understand about this?

 I understand that it's hard to get people to talk seriously / honestly about racism.

 
 

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