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Trump VP Contender Suggests Jim Crow Era Was Better For Black Families Than Now

  
Via:  John Russell  •  6 months ago  •  20 comments


Trump VP Contender Suggests Jim Crow Era Was Better For Black Families Than Now
“You see, during Jim Crow, the Black family was together. During Jim Crow, more Black people were not just conservative — Black people have always been conservative-minded — but more Black people voted conservatively,” he said. “And then H.E.W., Lyndon Johnson — you go down that road, and now we are where we are,” he added, referring to the former U.S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare.

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Rep.   Byron Donalds   (R-FL) suggested that Black families were better off during the Jim Crow era at a campaign event for former President   Donald Trump   in Philadelphia on Tuesday.

Donalds, the congressman from southwest Florida who is on Trump’s shortlist for vice president, made the remarks at a Trump campaign event called “Congress, Cognac, and Cigars” that he co-hosted at a cigar bar along with Rep.   Wesley Hunt   (R-TX).


An article about the event by   The Philadelphia Inquirer   noted that it, along with an earlier campaign office opening that were promoted as part of a “Black Americans for Trump” effort, were attended by a lot of out-of-towners. “The room was majority-Black, but about half of those who listed addresses on the event’s sign-in sheet put down addresses outside Philadelphia,” said the report, adding that President   Joe Biden’s   campaign “wasted no time blasting the optics of not having any Black Pennsylvanians speak at the event.”

According to the   Inquirer , the cigar event was moderated by sports journalist   Michelle Tafoya , who led a discussion on Republican outreach to the Black community. Donalds blamed the erosion of Black family values on policies supported by Democratic politicians and described the Jim Crow era with oddly favorable terminology, as a period in which “the Black family was together” and “more Black people voted conservatively”:


At another point, Donalds said he is starting to see the “reinvigoration of Black family,” which he described as younger people forming nuclear family units and “helping to breathe the revival of a Black middle class in America.” He went on to say that those family values had previously been eroded by Democratic policies that Black voters embraced after becoming loyal to the party due to the Civil Rights Movement.

“You see, during Jim Crow, the Black family was together. During Jim Crow, more Black people were not just conservative — Black people have always been conservative-minded — but more Black people voted conservatively,” he said. “And then H.E.W., Lyndon Johnson — you go down that road, and now we are where we are,” he added, referring to the former U.S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare.

The so-called Great Society programs, spearheaded by former President Lyndon Johnson in the 1960s, included civil rights legislation, the creation of Medicaid for low-income Americans, and the expansion of federal food stamp, welfare, and housing programs.

Donalds is correct that the rate of marriage among Black Americans has declined — and the rate of   single parent families   has increased — since the 1960s. A number of conservative economists have blamed these changes on government programs supported by Democrats. As   Thomas Sowell   wrote   in 2004, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”


However, based on the   Inquirer’s   description of his remarks, Donalds omitted some important context, namely that Black voters were perhaps more inclined to vote for Republicans after the Civil War because that was the party that had supported ending slavery and the Reconstruction-era policies intended to expand voting and economic freedoms for Blacks.

And, of course, there is the not-insignificant fact that during the Jim Crow era, progress made during Reconstruction was rolled back, voting rights for Blacks were suppressed (both through racist laws and threats and violence imposed by groups like the Ku Klux Klan), and segregation was widespread, with Blacks being relegated to far inferior schools and other community facilities.

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    6 months ago

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Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    6 months ago

Donalds is correct that the rate of marriage among Black Americans has declined — and the rate of   single parent families   has increased — since the 1960s.

oh…So this has absolutely nothing to do with Jim Crow. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    6 months ago
“You see, during Jim Crow, the Black family was together. During Jim Crow, more Black people were not just conservative — Black people have always been conservative-minded — but more Black people voted conservatively,”

Donalds point is that the intentional end of Jim Crow was bad for black people. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
2.1.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    6 months ago
Donalds point is that the intentional end of Jim Crow was bad for black people.

No, what he points out is the policies perpetrated on African Americans by liberals have hurt black families because the liberal racists think African Americans can't survive without their help.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  George @2.1.1    6 months ago

He is obviously saying blacks were better off under Jim Crow.  Dress it up any way you like. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    6 months ago

Failing to point out that Donalds is black? And was definitely taken out of context? I know shocker.

Also, which party was responsible for the Jim Crow?

Which party doesn't seem to think that blacks can't get voter ID's (or any type of proper identification)?

Which party takes the black vote for granted? Joe famously quipping "If you have a problem figuring out whether your for me or Trump; then you ain't black".

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.1.4  CB  replied to  George @2.1.1    6 months ago

MAGAs don't ever try to lecture Blacks on who they can partner with; we can think for ourselves. Work on MAGAs policies. . . because the issue here is Blacks/Minorites have dealt, past tense, with conservative policies enough to know you are not friends to anyone who is not conservative. We are in and vote with the democrats because conservatives policies are 'bent' toward themselves and themselves only. It is why you are are CALLING yourselves trying to TAKEOVER the country—for conservativism sake. 

Stop deluding yourselves, Blacks have  some conservatives figured out. In fact, some conservatives policies have a STENCH so ferocious that MAGAs are purging true conservatives for populous bull.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    6 months ago

One could argue that the black population struggled after slavery was ended. Would that then mean it was wrong to end slavery ?  Give me a break. 

 
 
 
George
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2.2.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    6 months ago

The only people who would argue that are democrats who had to pick their own crops.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.2.2  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    6 months ago
Would that then mean it was wrong to end slavery

To the left it was. They were pissed Lincoln freed their slaves.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.2.3  CB  replied to  bugsy @2.2.2    6 months ago

That noise is outdated. Old-fashioned. delusional. MAGAs need new material, please. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
2.3  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    6 months ago

It should not matter, because MAGAs "say" they are the party of (max) freedoms, liberty, and prosperity. . . .but your policies seek to constrict people into a box where they are under MAGA control. MAGAs worry (and obstruct) the rise of minorities in this country at every opportunity they can. Yes, I stated that. 

Now to Donalds, he is a grifter, and grifters will say anything in the moment to achieve some success for themselves, their books, their position. This is not about single parent families. This is a grifter apply a grift.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    6 months ago

"Thomas Sowell     wrote    in 2004, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

Where have all the fathers gone?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Greg Jones @3    6 months ago
changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

Far too many people have chosen welfare for a career.  And it seems many dems are fine with the fraud many people use to get it.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4  CB    6 months ago

So Donalds wants all blacks to join him in marriage. . . I wonder would he like to pick the 'bride' or 'groom' for them too. Donalds is in an interracial marriage. I am not against interracial marriage. I am for it, because it is DEI (Diversity, Equality/equity, and Inclusion). Oops, Donalds marriage is a 'poster-boy' for DEI, but his conservativism has gotten the best of him. . . such that he thinks he has cause to shame minorities into marriages they don't want. . . and maybe not need. He somehow thinks in his foolish head that he can make a 'friend' out of conservatives, but that only works well when he toes-the-line as a conservative. Try changing to the left even a smidgeon, and he will learn (the hard way) just how expendable he is.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5  CB    6 months ago

Freedom means letting people and groups of people figure out their own solution to getting ahead, to getting to marriage. It is not to INTERFERE by trickery to tell them they should be more like "YOU." (And we have yet to get to his views of LGBTQ citizens and their marriages.)

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6  CB    6 months ago

Donalds and MAGAs are not interested in FREEDOM to be who you are in the land of FREEDOM. Donalds is not really interested in black marriages. He is more interested in liberals becoming defunct or lacking in efficacy to challenge MAGAs brand of conservatism. Here's why: If liberals were to join his IDEOLOGY of choice, they would be COMPELLED to accept the whole 'loaf' of conservative ideology and that comes with its members being party to the twisted thinking of Trump-everything about life would become about using coping mechanisms to normalize an ideology filled with some delusional people who choose to follow an ideology that puts a country full of diverse people 'back' into tribes and re-colonialism (of the minds of the citizenry in this country).

Furthermore, straight single people (who are Donalds chief concern ) who engage in sexual activity eventually have children; some of those children will want children of their own. But that is not good enough for Donalds. Instead of making policies that will "free" single individuals to PROSPER, he proposed they give up their worldview and join him in his ideology!

Not going to happen. He knows this. But, Trump uses him as a spokesman to try anyway. I suggest Donalds carry Trump's water between some conservatives. . .and leave liberals alone.

Finally, populism is not conservativism. Donalds is a Trump populist He is no longer his OWN MAN.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
7  Kavika     6 months ago
Donalds is correct that the rate of marriage among Black Americans has declined — and the rate of      single parent families      has increased — since the 1960s.

In checking each race group, you'll see that all have had large increases in single parent families as well as marriage in all major race groups has declined. 

So, did ''JIm Crow'' cause this problem among white, Asians, Hispanics, and NAs as well.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @7    6 months ago

That’s the point.  The expansion of the nanny state did. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
8  CB    6 months ago

Trump's vice-presidential shortlist is out. . . and so far Donalds is not on it. So. . . perhaps he can stop grifting now. Nope, he can't. Not yet.

 
 

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