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Trump's Shock Comic Was Set to Call Harris a 'C*nt'

  
Via:  John Russell  •  4 weeks ago  •  151 comments


Trump's Shock Comic Was Set to Call Harris a 'C*nt'
Tony Hinchcliffe's set at Madison Square Garden wasn't great for the campaign. It could have been much worse.

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Tony Hinchcliffe's set at Madison Square Garden wasn't great for the campaign. It could have been much worse.


DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN WAS LEFT scrambling Sunday night after roast-comic Tony Hinchcliffe made insulting jokes about Hispanic and black people on stage at the ex-president's Madison Square Garden rally.

The lines sparked immediate backlash and even condemnation from fellow Republicans. But four top campaign sources said it could have been even worse.

"He had a joke calling [Vice President Kamala] Harris a 'cunt,'" a campaign insider involved in the discussions about the event told The Bulwark. "Let's say it was a red flag."

Hinchcliffe's remarks—and the ensuing backlash—has sparked questions about how such an offensive speech was allowed at such a high-profile rally; whether it was deliberate; and why a presidential campaign would elevate a roast-master comic edgelord in the closing days of a tight race for the White House.

Campaign staffers had asked all speakers to submit drafts of their speeches ahead of time—before they were loaded into the teleprompter—according to the aforementioned sources. Once the objectionable "cunt" joke was spotted, the sources said, a staffer asked Hinchcliffe to strike it. He complied.

Those sources insisted that they did not spot the other objectionable lines in Hinchcliffe's speech prior to him delivering it because they were ad-libbed.Hinchcliffe couldn't be reached for comment.

The shock comic took the stage early during the MSG rally. In the course of delivering his eleven-minute-and-forty-second set, he called Puerto Rico an island of trash and joked about a black person carving watermelons for Halloween.

About three hours after the performance, as condemnation was pouring in from left, right, and center, the Trump campaign was forced to take the rare step of distancing itself from one of their speakers—though itonly separated itself fromthe "trash" line and not the watermelon one.

"This joke does not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign," Danielle Alvarez, a Trump senior adviser said.

By then, the political damage had been done. In Pennsylvania, home to a sizable number of Puerto Rican voters, Democratic Gov. Josh Shapiro denounced the comments. At roughly the same moment, Puerto Rican reggaeton superstar Bad Bunny announced his endorsement of Harris.

Behind the scenes, the Trump campaign debated how to respond. Some aides wanted a full-throated denunciation of Hinchcliffe while others, in accordance with MAGA's no-apologies crowd on Twitter, advocated for no response at all.

"It's a joke. People need to grow up," one Trump adviser in the no-apology camp told The Bulwark. "This is what we're campaigning against: PC culture run amok."

Another adviser, speaking to TheBulwark, took the opposite position: "This isn't the hill we need to die on, Puerto Rico as a trash island—for fuck's sake!"

The divide within the campaign exemplifies the premium it has placed on spectacle as a political tool. It is a culture in which rhetoric, especially from the candidate, often exceeds the standards of common political discourse, in an attempt to appeal to voters tired of "cancel culture" and tone-policing. That refusal to play it safe or normal is a testament to the supreme confidence of Trump and his team. But some aides fear it may veer into overconfidence that Trump will win, despite polling showing the race is essentially a tie.

Campaign advisers are united in their opinion that the Hinchcliffe controversy will blow over. Some were heartened by the fact that for once it wasn't Trump who was at the center of the maelstrom. Others noted that they have overcome far worse.

"Heading into the rally, we were called Nazis. Do voters really care about a comic telling a joke that offended people who weren't going to vote for us? No," a third campaign adviser said.
A fourth source said, "Giving a speech onstage is just like being on TV: once your ass is in the seat, anything can happen."

But Democrats were gleeful for the cudgel they were handed. Carlos Odio, a Democrat and founder of the Latino research firm Equis Research, said he's not sure about the severity of the downstream political consequences of the controversy, save that it would be bad for Trump.

"We've gotten so used to the idea that nothing Trump or his allies say ever seems to move the needle," he told The Bulwark. "Maybe it is the same now. Or maybe the exception turns out to be insulting a critical community in your tipping-point state while voting is already underway, using a joke so incendiary it breaks through almost instantly."

Harris's campaign has continuously highlighted the comment and, on Sunday afternoon, posted a reaction video featuring Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.)—herself a boricua—and Harris running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, condemning Hinchcliffe.

"These people have no sense of humor," Hinchcliffe responded. "Wild that a vice presidential candidate would take time out of his 'busy schedule' to analyze a joke taken out of context to make it seem racist. I love Puerto Rico and vacation there. I made fun of everyone . . . watch the whole set. I'm a comedian Tim . . . might be time to change your tampon."

AS THE CAMPAIGN ENTERS ITS FINAL week, the attacks against Harris have taken on a harsher tone that has left the Trump campaign open to accusations of sexism. The America super PAC financed by billionaire Elon Musk recently released a web ad that repeatedly calls Harris "the C Word." Only later does it say she's a "communist." And during a podcast appearance just hours before the MSG rally, vice presidential candidate JD Vance repeatedly mocked Harris's laugh, calling it "very fraudulent" and "so off putting."

Unlike Musk or Vance, Hinchcliffe has no formal campaign role. He entered Trump's orbit as part of the campaign's effort to book the candidate on popular podcasts that appeal to young men. But the preliminary talks to have Trump appear on Hinchcliffe's hit "Kill Tony" show never panned out, and as time ran short in the campaign, advisers offered Hinchcliffe a consolation: a speaking role at the rally in order to provide the audience some flashy comic relief.

But what works on "Kill Tony" and comedy roasts is not necessarily suitable for the presidential campaign. That seemed apparent to Hinchcliffe at the start of his set, when he pointed out he doesn't usually perform invenues like the Garden. Then, four minutes later, he compared Puerto Rico to a trash island . . . in New York, home to the second-largest boricua population on the mainland.

There were cheers, nervous laughs, and jeers.

"Okay, all right, okay," he chuckled nervously. "We're getting there. Again, normally, I don't follow the National Anthem, everybody. Ah, this isn't exactly a perfect comedy setup. There's some people here—all right. Very good. I like it."

Rimshot.

Democrats, liberals, and Puerto Rican advocates on both sides of the political aisle quickly condemned the remarks. In Florida, which has the nation's largest Puerto Rican population outside of the island, Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar (R-Fl.) hounded a Trump campaign adviser by text demanding an apology.

"Disgusted by @TonyHinchcliffe's racist comment calling Puerto Rico a 'floating island of garbage.' This rhetoric does not reflect GOP values," Salazar, a Republican of Cuban descent who represents a large Hispanic population in Miami, posted about 10 minutes after Hinchcliffe's comment. "Puerto Rico sent 48,000+ soldiers to Vietnam, with over 345 Purple Hearts awarded. This bravery deserves respect. Educate yourself!"

About 40 minutes later, Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fl.), a top Trump ally who is locked in a tight battle for reelection against former Democratic Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, let loose with his own response.

"This joke bombed for a reason," Scott posted. "It's not funny and it's not true. Puerto Ricans are amazing people and amazing Americans! I've been to the island many times. It's a beautiful place. Everyone should visit! I will always do whatever I can to help any Puerto Rican in Florida or on the island."

While the jokes about Puerto Rico and watermelon-carving made at least some Trump staffers wince, the sources who spoke to The Bulwark all agreed that the campaign did not object to Hinchcliffe's other jokes about rock-throwing Palestinians, Jewish people who want to keep their money, false reports that Haitians are eating cats and dogs in Ohio, or the assassination attempts Trump survived.

While the sources insist that Hinchcliffe ad-libbed his most offensive material, the sources were divided over whether the campaign knew about his joke accusing Hispanics of having unprotected sex, a double entendre about how they "come inside" the country.

Delivered to an audience of about 20,000, that line got some laughs, but not a lot.

"Republicans are the party with the good sense of humor," Hinchcliffe said after delivering the shocker. "Free speech is under attack, people. I host a show, and each week, I get updates on what words we're allowed to use and not use anymore. It's happening right now."

Indeed it was.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago
The divide within the campaign exemplifies the premium it has placed on spectacle as a political tool. It is a culture in which rhetoric, especially from the candidate, often exceeds the standards of common political discourse, in an attempt to appeal to voters tired of "cancel culture" and tone-policing. That refusal to play it safe or normal is a testament to the supreme confidence of Trump and his team. But some aides fear it may veer into overconfidence that Trump will win, despite polling showing the race is essentially a tie.

Campaign advisers are united in their opinion that the Hinchcliffe controversy will blow over. Some were heartened by the fact that for once it wasn't Trump who was at the center of the maelstrom. Others noted that they have overcome far worse.

"Heading into the rally, we were called Nazis. Do voters really care about a comic telling a joke that offended people who weren't going to vote for us? No," a third campaign adviser said.
A fourth source said, "Giving a speech onstage is just like being on TV: once your ass is in the seat, anything can happen."
 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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2  Igknorantzruls    4 weeks ago

Trump n Cump, knocking em dead , yet again

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Igknorantzruls @2    4 weeks ago

trump the chump

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3  Gsquared    4 weeks ago
"Republicans are the party with the good sense of humor," 

They are.  They think Himmler was hilarious.

 
 
 
JBB
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5  JBB    4 weeks ago

October Surprise Surprise Surprise! MAGA racism is no surprised...

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1  bugsy  replied to  JBB @5    4 weeks ago

All that "racism" is going to get Trump elected by more than ten million votes.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @5.1    4 weeks ago
While the jokes about Puerto Rico and watermelon-carving made at least some Trump staffers wince, the sources who spoke to The Bulwark all agreed that the campaign did not object to Hinchcliffe's other jokes about rock-throwing Palestinians, Jewish people who want to keep their money, false reports that Haitians are eating cats and dogs in Ohio, or the assassination attempts Trump survived.
 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1.2  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @5.1    4 weeks ago
All that "racism" is going to get Trump elected by more than ten million votes.

You might be right-- after all so many of his supporters are blatantly racist!

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.1.3  cjcold  replied to  bugsy @5.1    4 weeks ago

Your every post is insane.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.4  JBB  replied to  bugsy @5.1    4 weeks ago

We are electing a President not Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan!

Which is why Harris will win the popular vote by ten million votes...

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @5.1.4    3 weeks ago

She should given her opponent is a vindictive narcissistic traitor; but I have lost much faith in the wisdom of the US electorate.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @5.1.3    3 weeks ago

also fact/truth free

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.7  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @5.1.3    3 weeks ago

I expect an apology on Nov 6

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @5.1.4    3 weeks ago

ten million votes and then some

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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6  Hal A. Lujah    4 weeks ago

I don’t have a problem with insult comics in general, but there are obvious scenarios where they are a terrible idea.  This scenario here is somewhere between at a funeral and at a convent.

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.1  cjcold  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6    4 weeks ago

A friend took me to an Andrew Dice Clay show. 

He got up and walked out in the first minute. I followed him.

He neglected to tell me that he was paid to do it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @6.1    3 weeks ago

I remember seeing a very popular DJ back in the day, in DC, the Greaseman was his handle I believe.  He was absolutely hilarious for the most part on his morning show.  I went to see him one time at a local club where he was going to appear.  He did a 'comedy' routine that was nothing but one absolutely filthy disgusting 'joke' after another.  I lost all respect for him then and wouldn't listen to his show anymore.  

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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6.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  cjcold @6.1    3 weeks ago

Shock comics have been around for a long time.  Lisa Lampanelli, Sarah Silverman, etc.  Every roast event has a few.  The problem isn’t that they exist, it’s that there are certain obvious venues where they will not be received well.  Actual leadership knows this … Trump, not so much.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @6.1.2    3 weeks ago

I don't even consider them shock jocks - they push the envelope I guess, like many comedians.  Shock jocks obviously have their audience, but like you said, not the venue.

Also, since it's his, the former 'president' traitors' nazi rally and he endorses it all, so he is guilty for everything this 'comedian' said despite the hollow/meaningless/desperate apologists defense of the indefensible of the latest indefensibleness

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    4 weeks ago

The clowns haven’t figured out that it’s not joking time. We need serious people to manage real issues. It’s not a goddamned celebrity roast.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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7.1  arkpdx  replied to  Tacos! @7    4 weeks ago
it’s not joking time.

It must be. Just look at who the Democrat nominee is. That the biggest joke of all. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  arkpdx @7.1    4 weeks ago

That’s not any funnier than the “comic.”

 
 
 
cjcold
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7.1.2  cjcold  replied to  arkpdx @7.1    4 weeks ago

Kamala Harris is likely the most qualified person to ever seek the job.[]

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8  Trout Giggles    4 weeks ago
Those sources insisted that they did not spot the other objectionable lines in Hinchcliffe's speech prior to him delivering it because they were ad-libbed.

Were they?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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8.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Trout Giggles @8    4 weeks ago
Were they?

you are not suggesting that Trump, his handlers, or any other of his supporters could or would lie about something, r u ?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1    4 weeks ago

Ummmm.....

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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8.1.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.1    4 weeks ago

what ? can't commit to a stance, bout a comic known in a Vance under pants hard member soft loft, that wants to bend over for you and cough,

cause eye didn't see the joke, guess cause i'm too a woke     up, fell outta bed, drageed a rake across my garden while eaton the plab]nts i smoked too plant, like a vw, but spelt differently, ya C, i need it spelled out for me to B leave, this one alone, she could tell right away, Trump wanted a dusty crusty trombone

sorry tg, wake and bake sorta workin for me, and as an employer, had to Fire

up

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.2    4 weeks ago

Oh, I'm committed. I'm writing this from my asylum

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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8.1.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.3    4 weeks ago

that's insane

 
 
 
Krishna
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8.1.5  Krishna  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1    4 weeks ago
would lie about something, r u ?

Of course they wouldn't! Well, unless it was "ad-libbed"-- then lies would be OK.

 
 
 
cjcold
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8.1.6  cjcold  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.2    4 weeks ago

Gonna have to sue you for humor if you keep making me laugh. You have no right to do that!  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @8.1.6    3 weeks ago

I've told iggy he needs to put his words to music.  He'd make a fortune.  I want a cut though since it was my idea.

 
 
 
Krishna
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8.1.8  Krishna  replied to  Igknorantzruls @8.1.4    3 weeks ago
that's insane

One flew East,

And one flew West.

And one flew over

The Cuckoo's Nest.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.2  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @8    4 weeks ago

I thought everything was loaded into the teleprompter except the C word 'joke' - would love it if someone happened to find somehow what was actually loaded into the teleprompter 

 
 
 
cjcold
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8.2.1  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @8.2    4 weeks ago

At least he didn't tell one of those "your mamma is so ugly" jokes. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  cjcold @8.2.1    3 weeks ago

That might have been funny

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.2.2    3 weeks ago

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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9  Hal A. Lujah    4 weeks ago

I’m surprised these Trump troll didn’t choreograph a perfectly timed mic outage during the line “Kamala Harris is a country hating fascist.”

 
 
 
Krishna
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9.1  Krishna  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @9    4 weeks ago
“Kamala Harris is a country hating fascist.”

A "fascist"-- or "a Marxist"?

(Sometimes her accusers are confused-- and have trouble making up their (tiny) little minds!)

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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9.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Krishna @9.1    4 weeks ago

Trump is infamous for hurling every “-ist” into his insults at once, even if they can’t coexist by definition.  Deep thinker he is.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @9.1.1    4 weeks ago

Trump called Harris a communist , fascist , and marxist in the same sentence not that long ago. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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9.1.3  arkpdx  replied to  Krishna @9.1    3 weeks ago

The country hating part is spot on accurate when describing Harris 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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9.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  arkpdx @9.1.3    3 weeks ago

Where do you find country hating in Harris?   

Some of the comments from Trump supporters are so utterly outrageous ... I can only assume they are strictly intended to be obnoxious.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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9.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @9.1.4    3 weeks ago

BINGO

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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9.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.2    3 weeks ago

It's apparent to people who paid attention in high school that trmp didn't

 
 
 
Tessylo
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9.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @9.1.1    3 weeks ago

The actual word salads that they accuse Kamala of.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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9.1.8  arkpdx  replied to  TᵢG @9.1.4    3 weeks ago

Well her stance on the border.  She supports and supported Biden's open border policy. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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9.1.9  bugsy  replied to  arkpdx @9.1.8    3 weeks ago
he supports and supported Biden's open border policy. 

Where during COVID she forced Americans to get the COVID shot or lose your jobs, but the illegals streaming in were not required to get one.

THAT is American hating. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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9.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  arkpdx @9.1.8    3 weeks ago

That is it??   You think the nation hates Harris because Biden did not pay sufficient attention to the border?   With all the shit that Trump has done and said, you do not think the nation would hate him ... you think they would hate Harris??   More Trump land nonsense.

The number of illegal immigrants in this nation has remained stable between 10.5 and 12 million since Bush 43.   What happened during Biden was a massive increase in encounters.   This was a worldwide phenomenon, not just the USA.   

While Biden clearly did not pay sufficient attention to the border and criticism is valid, the actual criticism is hyped up nonsense.   If you believe what Trump says about illegal immigrants then you believe a ridiculously exaggerated fantasy.   

Harris has stated that she will push and sign the bipartisan border bill that Trump killed.   That will bring more resources to the border at a level that only Congress can authorize.   Given the importance of immigration to the nation, I expect that she will do just that if elected.

If there was any objective reasoning in Trump land, they would be pissed at Trump for killing the border bill so that he could use it as a political issue.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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9.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @9.1.9    3 weeks ago

You think taking aggressive action to ensure people are vaccinated to mitigate infecting the workforce is America hating?   What a twisted view ... trying to control a pandemic is America hating. 

During the pandemic the government mandated vaccines for federal employees and health-care workers, foreign travelers, visitors and legal immigrants.  

Illegal immigrants were subject to Title 42 under both the Trump and Biden administrations.   The focus for illegals was containment, not vaccination ... because they were illegal.   Vaccinations, however, were made available to any illegal immigrant (were not denied).   And any illegal working for a US company would have been subjected to the same rules for vaccination through the employer.

 
 
 
Krishna
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9.1.12  Krishna  replied to  arkpdx @9.1.3    3 weeks ago
The country hating part is spot on accurate when describing Harris 

Well she is a "big City Girl" (San Francisco), but actually IIRC she also likes to vacation in the country.

Doesn't hate the countryside at all!

 
 
 
Krishna
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9.1.13  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @9.1.12    3 weeks ago
The country hating part is spot on accurate when describing Harris 
Well she is a "big City Girl" (San Francisco), but actually IIRC she also likes to vacation in the country. Doesn't hate the countryside at all!

(Get smarter here!!! jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png )

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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10  seeder  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

TODAY -

Trump about his racist MSG rally just now: "It was a love fest"

No explanation, no apology. He's trash, throw him away in the dustbin of history in 7 days.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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10.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @10    4 weeks ago

White trash with money is all he's ever been.  

 
 
 
Krishna
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10.2  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @10    3 weeks ago
Trump about his racist MSG rally just now: "It was a love fest"

Did he forget to mention that "It was the greatest love fest ever)

???

 
 
 
TᵢG
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11  TᵢG    4 weeks ago

If you bring in a shock comedian for a closing rally, you ensure he (like every other speaker) contributes to the message and especially that he do no harm.   This is an easy thing to control if one is competent.

Worse, if a speaker is found to make what would be a terrible message for the campaign, you spend extra time to ensure the balance of the speech is proper.    Either that or bump the speaker.

The Trump campaign is stuck with this.   It is one of many horrible messages that the people should be aware of, but we take what we can get.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11    4 weeks ago
The Trump campaign is stuck with this.

You believe people that have not already made their minds up are going to give this a second thought?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1    4 weeks ago
Donald Trump has a serious Puerto Rico problem — in Pennsylvania.

Many Puerto Rican voters in the state are furious about   racist and demeaning comments   delivered at a Trump rally. Some say their dismay is giving Kamala Harris a new opening to win over the state’s Latino voters, particularly nearly half a million Pennsylvanians   of Puerto Rican descent.

Evidence of the backlash was immediate on Monday: A nonpartisan Puerto Rican group drafted a letter urging its members to oppose Trump on election day. Other Puerto Rican voters were lighting up WhatsApp chats with reactions to the vulgar display and raising it in morning conversations at their bodegas. Some are planning to protest Trump’s rally Tuesday in Allentown, a majority-Latino city with one of the largest Puerto Rican populations in the state.

And the arena Trump is speaking at is located in the middle of the city’s Puerto Rican neighborhood.

“It’s spreading like wildfire through the community,” said Norberto Dominguez, a precinct captain with the local Democratic party in Allentown, who noted his own family is half Republican and half Democratic voters.

Trump’s Puerto Rico fallout is ‘spreading like wildfire’ in Pennsylvania
 
 
 
TᵢG
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11.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1    4 weeks ago

I am hopeful that the appropriate outrage of the Puerto Rico communities translates into votes against Trump in a close election in swing states.

I think there is a good chance that this will be the case.

 
 
 
George
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11.1.3  George  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.2    4 weeks ago
I am hopeful that the appropriate outrage of the Puerto Rico communities translates into votes against Trump in a close election in swing states.

I am hopeful that the appropriate outrage of the Christian communities translates into votes against Harris in a close election in swing states.

Hey this is fun! difference is Harris told Christians who shouted "Jesus is lord" they were at the wrong rally. trump didn't say anything about Puerto Rico.        

 
 
 
George
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11.1.4  George  replied to  George @11.1.3    4 weeks ago

Or maybe we can go with the person who shouted at the Harris Rally that Israel is committing Genocide and have killed 19,000 children and Harris response is

“Listen, what he’s talking about, it’s real. That’s not the subject that I came to discuss today, but it’s real and I respect his voice,” Harris said. 

Maybe we can blame trump for something Guiliani said to cover for Harris's obvious distain for Israels righ to protect itself.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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11.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.2    4 weeks ago

It's almost like he wants to lose among those he's allegedly trying to win over

 
 
 
TᵢG
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11.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  George @11.1.3    4 weeks ago
Hey this is fun!

And some of us take seriously the prospect of a vindictive narcissist with the power of the presidency.

 
 
 
George
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11.1.7  George  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.6    4 weeks ago

So no comment about what Harris actually said just more confirmation bias about trump.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.2    4 weeks ago
appropriate outrage

More like inappropriate overreactive faux poutrage.

It was a joke, not a good one but a joke none the less.  If the people were concerned about their delicate sensibilities being bruised they could have always not watched something they knew would have that type of comedian.

Of course they may have wanted to be outraged so they could throw out a few more names.

 
 
 
bugsy
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11.1.9  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.8    4 weeks ago

More than likely, very few, if any, liberals even knew about the joke until they heard it on Morning idiot on MSDNC. 

There they were told to be poutraged, and here we are today.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.6    4 weeks ago

Now someone is floating the batshitcrazy conspiracy theory that Kamala wasn't actually a Prosecutor because he couldn't find any transcripts of any of her drug gang prosecutions, etc..

 
 
 
TᵢG
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11.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  George @11.1.7    4 weeks ago

It is useful to think things through.   Harris is a Christian (Baptist) who has spoken about her faith in her rallies.   So why would she turn away fellow Christians?

Stop leaping on every chickenshit partisan lie, twist, and exaggeration.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.12  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.8    4 weeks ago

The Puerto Rican communities do not seem to be amused.   I hope they are as outraged as they seem to be and express same with their votes.

 
 
 
George
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11.1.13  George  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.11    4 weeks ago

Are you claiming she didn't tell Christians who shouted "Jesus is Lord" that they were at the wrong Rally and should be a the small one down the street? "trumps rally"

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @11.1.9    4 weeks ago
There they were told to be poutraged, and here we are today

Sounds about right.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.12    4 weeks ago

But according to the defenders of the indefensible, they're all laughing, all of the Puerto Ricans because WE can't take a joke.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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11.1.16  TᵢG  replied to  George @11.1.13    4 weeks ago

I was not there and the reports are conflicting and thus lead us nowhere.

What I wrote was pretty self explanatory.   In effect the allegation makes no sense.   Why would a Christian send religious people to a Trump rally?

Sometimes a little common sense helps.

 
 
 
Krishna
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11.1.17  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1    4 weeks ago
You believe people that have not already made their minds up are going to give this a second thought?

Some will, some won't. (Everyone doesn't think exactly the same).

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.18  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.12    3 weeks ago
I hope they are as outraged as they seem to be

IMO they should be outraged at their government since  the joke had some truth to it and not so much about a joke about it from some obscure comedian.  The joke will come and go, getting rid of the garbage will be around alot longer and have a greater impact on their lives.  Of course many of the partisans on the left will try and manufacture outrage over the joke and not really care about the actual problem regarding trash in Puerto Rico

 
 
 
Tessylo
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11.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.16    3 weeks ago
Sometimes a little common sense helps.

jrSmiley_40_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.20  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.18    3 weeks ago

Given Trump manufactures bullshit daily, I certainly hope the Puerto Rican community remains outraged by this and votes against Trump ... especially in PA.

Too many people already are voting for this scoundrel based upon a distorted view of reality that comes from believing the utter bullshit that Trump spews and ignoring all the actual negatives of this vindictive narcissist demagogue.   It would be nice if something actually stuck to Trump.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.21  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.20    3 weeks ago

So once again ignoring the comment and going on a mini Trump rant.    Doesn't matter that in this case it is a chicken shit complaint, as is Bidens comment about Trump supporters.  Too many feel anything goes for their candidate to win, including losing all credibility and objective thinking.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.22  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.16    3 weeks ago
I was not there and the reports are conflicting and thus lead us nowhere.

here you go.

 
 
 
evilone
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11.1.23  evilone  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.20    3 weeks ago
I certainly hope the Puerto Rican community remains outraged by this and votes against Trump ... especially in PA.

NPR interviewed one who was outraged and one who wasn't. A reminder to all of us here that no group of people is monolithic. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.24  Right Down the Center  replied to  evilone @11.1.23    3 weeks ago
NPR interviewed one who was outraged and one who wasn't.

I have to wonder if the outrage coincides with who they will vote for.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.25  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.16    3 weeks ago

Ask her I guess............They yelled "God is King, Christ is Lord"

 
 
 
TᵢG
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11.1.26  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.21    3 weeks ago
So once again ignoring the comment and going on a mini Trump rant.   

Another comment that invents a bullshit claim rather than put forth an actual rebuttal.

Trump is a traitor, vindictive narcissist, and scoundrel.    Priority one for any rational thought process is to ensure he never gains the power of the presidency.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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11.1.27  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.22    3 weeks ago

I doubt that is what she heard.    Use a little common sense.   She is on a stage being interrupted by hecklers from a crowd.   The idea of being heckled by "Jesus is Lord" makes absolutely no sense since she was saying nothing about Jesus or even religion.   It is very likely she interpreted the heckling noise to be from Trump supporters and thus gave her standard line.

Common sense helps.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.28  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.25    3 weeks ago

see @11.1.27

Trump apologists continue to zero in on any little crack they can while ignoring the daily piles of bullshit from Trump.    Just incredible.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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11.1.29  TᵢG  replied to  evilone @11.1.23    3 weeks ago

Of course they are not monolithic.   A group never agrees 100%.   But this clearly has raised the ire of the community and I hope it translates into votes against Trump.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.30  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.27    3 weeks ago
It is very likely she interpreted the heckling noise to be from Trump supporters and thus gave her standard line.

Likely................pffft

Common sense helps.

Condescension duly noted.........

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.31  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.30    3 weeks ago

Yeah, likely.   Again, just use basic common sense.   If Harris thought they were saying "Jesus is Lord" or equivalent why would she tell them to go to a Trump rally?

Harris is a Christian with a message of inclusion.   Hello?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.32  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.25    3 weeks ago

'Ask her I guess............They yelled "God is King, Christ is Lord"

I don't hear that at all.  That's not what they said.  I heard 'lies' 'lies' 'lies'

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.33  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.27    3 weeks ago

'Ask her I guess............They yelled "God is King, Christ is Lord"

That's not what was said TiG - if you listen closely it's 'lies, lies, lies' and not what JJ said, it doesn't sound anything like that.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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11.1.34  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.31    3 weeks ago
Harris is a Christian with a message of inclusion.

Now that's funny. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.35  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.32    3 weeks ago

I read a wrong article. I stand corrected.

"Vice President Kamala Harris was interrupted briefly during her remarks in La Crosse, Wis., by what appeared to be several anti-abortion hecklers as she talked about her support for abortion rights.“Oh, you guys are at the wrong rally,” Harris responded to them from the stage. “I think you meant to go to the smaller rally down the street.”
Harris’s rally was also briefly interrupted by several pro-Palestinian protesters, with a handful of attendees yelling “Peace for Gaza” at one point during her remarks."
 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.36  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1.34    3 weeks ago

What is funny about Harris being a Christian and noting that her message is undeniably one of inclusion?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.37  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.35    3 weeks ago

Where's your citation?

I don't hear that either.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.38  TᵢG  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.32    3 weeks ago

It is very difficult to make out the noise.   So my response gives the benefit of the doubt and explains why Harris would say they are at the wrong rally.

It makes no sense for Harris to suggest people go to a Trump rally if she thought they simply shouted “Jesus is Lord”.   

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.39  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.37    3 weeks ago

Can you hear me now?

Two students of the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse—the campaign event took place at a university venue— later told   Fox News  that Harris was responding to their comments. “Abortion is the sacrament of Satan,” Luke Polaske, a junior, said he shouted after Harris criticized  Roe v. Wade  being overturned. He added that he then shouted, along with fellow student Grant Beth, “ Christ is Lord” and “Jesus is King.

Lots of different comments reported. Perhaps I can share this with you...............

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.40  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.38    3 weeks ago

Agreed.  Exactly.  I don't know why anyone would push otherwise.  Defending the indefensible I guess.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.41  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.35    3 weeks ago

I don't hear THAT either.

Like TiG says, use a little common sense, why would she say that if that's what was said?????  Doesn't make sense.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.42  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.38    3 weeks ago

...or 'Peace for Gaza'

I agree

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.43  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.41    3 weeks ago

Read the rest of the article. There were more than a couple of hecklers FFS. All of the heckling took part at the same time so all of the above are applicable. And he is right, peace for Gaza was also one of them.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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11.1.44  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.27    3 weeks ago
he was saying nothing about Jesus or even religion. 

No, but she said something about the stacked SCOTUS. That's what set the hecklers off

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.1.45  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.39    3 weeks ago
“Abortion is the sacrament of Satan,” Luke Polaske, a junior, said he shouted after Harris criticized  Roe v. Wade  being overturned

Men just need to shut the hell up about abortion. They will never get pregnant and know what it's like

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11.1.46  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.1.44    3 weeks ago

I don't know why she would respond to a 'peace for Gaza' shout out - that must have been a different instance from the 'you're at the wrong rally' heckle.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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11.1.47  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @11.1.46    3 weeks ago

Again, they were all at the same time..........................

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.48  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.26    3 weeks ago
Another comment that invents a bullshit claim rather than put forth an actual rebuttal.

Try again, that is some weak sauce.  How about responding to my original post without the diversion attempt.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.49  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.27    3 weeks ago
It is very likely she interpreted the heckling noise to be from Trump supporters and thus gave her standard line.

Who knows, maybe,  maybe not.  What I find funny is giving the benefit of the doubt to Kamalas actual words telling people to go to another rally while holding Trump accountable for words a a comic said at his rally.

Common sense helps.

So does objectivity

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.50  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.26    3 weeks ago
Priority one for any rational thought process is to ensure he never gains the power of the presidency.

Obviously for some.  For others the cost of personal integrity, objectivity, actual rationality and truthfulness is too high to make sure Trump is not in office.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.51  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.50    3 weeks ago
For others the cost of personal integrity, objectivity, actual rationality and truthfulness is too high to make sure Trump is not in office.

What a bizarre, distortion of reality to pen that it is a violation of integrity, etc. to NOT keep Trump out of office.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.52  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.49    3 weeks ago

The constant deference to Trump in your comments has not gone unnoticed.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.53  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.52    3 weeks ago

Your deflecting away from the comment by attempting to make it about me is obvious and noted.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.54  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.51    3 weeks ago

Keep Trump out of office, nothing else matters is the mantra of some. That includes personal integrity, objectivity, actual rationality and truthfulness. And it is getting worse the more worried some get.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.55  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.54    3 weeks ago
Keep Trump out of office, nothing else matters is the mantra of some.

This is very easy to understand:   

Priority One ☞ Do not yield the powers of the US presidency to a traitor, vindictive narcissist, loose-cannon scoundrel who has demonstrated that he will violate the CotUS and disenfranchise voters merely to spare himself the embarrassment of losing a presidential election.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.56  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.55    3 weeks ago

Yes and nothing else nothing else like personal integrity, objectivity, actual rationality and truthfulness matter 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
11.1.57  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1    3 weeks ago
You believe people that have not already made their minds up are going to give this a second thought?

Well, I just checked-- so far this post has 121 comments!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.58  Right Down the Center  replied to  Krishna @11.1.57    3 weeks ago

You think this is a valid sample of the rest of the country

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.59  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.56    3 weeks ago

It all matters but when priority one is violated in a big way, the other factors do not make up for it.

You have never been able to make a persuasive argument as to why someone should vote for a traitor, vindictive narcissist, loose-cannon scoundrel who has demonstrated that he will violate the CotUS and disenfranchise voters merely to spare himself the embarrassment of losing a presidential election.

Until you can show why we should overlook those overwhelming negatives and the summary conclusion that Trump is wholly unfit, you have made no case to vote for Trump.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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11.1.60  Tacos!  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.53    3 weeks ago
Your deflecting away from the comment by attempting to make it about me is obvious and noted.

His statement was specifically about your comment, and not about you.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
11.1.61  Tacos!  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.54    3 weeks ago
Keep Trump out of office, nothing else matters is the mantra of some.

Yes, it’s very important. Have you thought about why that is? Or do you just assume it’s some kind of psychosis?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.62  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.59    3 weeks ago
It all matters but when priority one is violated in a big way, the other factors do not make up for it.

That is what I said.  When push comes to shove things like personal integrity, objectivity, actual rationality and truthfulness take a back seat.  I strongly disagree with that type of thinking.  IMO those are the things that define a person and should never take a back seat.

You have never been able to make a persuasive argument as to why someone should vote for a  

That makes sense because I have never tried.  What I have been saying is I don't buy into the anti Trump hysteria which includes bullying, name calling calls of being irrational, unpatriotic ....etc.  I would like that everyone make their own decision about how important each issue/trait is for a candidate and come to their own RATIONAL conclusion about what they want. And they should not have to defend it to anyone, especially to anyone that is so consumed with Trump hatred they sound like they should up their meds. 

Until you can show why we should overlook those overwhelming negatives  

Why would I?  I have never said overlook, I have always said keep them in whatever perspective you see fit. If you actually paid attention I have always said I would not be voting for Trump and now that I have voted I can say I did not vote for Trump.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.63  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tacos! @11.1.61    3 weeks ago
Yes, it’s very important. Have you thought about why that is? Or do you just assume it’s some kind of psychosis?

Of course different people have different views about how bad and how important Trumps actions have been.  They can all determine how serious it is without the noise of the Trump haters in their ears.  But now that you bring up psychosis.....................

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.64  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.62    3 weeks ago
I strongly disagree with that type of thinking. 

Then why are your comments petty attacks on Harris while giving Trump a pass at every turn?

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
11.1.65  Tacos!  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.63    3 weeks ago
They can all determine how serious it is without the noise of the Trump haters in their ears.

Again: why do people oppose Trump? You seem to be aware that there are legitimate reasons to not want him to be president, but you then dismiss them with words like “mantra” and “hate” as if there were only irrational emotion in the opposition to him.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.66  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.64    3 weeks ago

I have already answered those incorrect accusations in the past. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.67  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tacos! @11.1.65    3 weeks ago

It is a matter of degree.  Some are legitimate reasons and some are based in irrational fear and hate of the man.  I dismiss those.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.68  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tacos! @11.1.65    3 weeks ago
Again: why do people oppose Trump?

All sorts of reasons that are personal to each person.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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11.1.69  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @11.1.65    3 weeks ago

They've been saying it for nine years. Its too late to stop now. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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11.1.70  Thomas  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.56    3 weeks ago

Yes and nothing else nothing else like personal integrity, objectivity, actual rationality and truthfulness matter 

Hmm, lets see:

  • Personal integrity? Trump lies like a blanket and will accept no decision that goes against him. Personal integrity is not a winner for Trump.
  • Objectivity? Trump is not objective. He is given to fits of fancy and rage.
  • Actual Rationality? I am unsure of the meaning  of your modifier "actual", so I will stick to the Rational part. Once again, Trump has shown through his deeds that he is not rational but quite the opposite.
  • Truthfulness? You have got to be kidding me. 
 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.71  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.67    3 weeks ago

You were asked why people oppose Trump.

Your reply says absolutely nothing.   

Why do people eat chicken?   Lots of reasons, some like the taste, others like the convenience, others like the versatility, others care more about the lower cost of chicken, some just eat chicken out of habit.

Pointless platitudes offer nothing of value.   What is obvious is not valuable or needed.

Why do people oppose Trump?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.72  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.68    3 weeks ago
All sorts of reasons that are personal to each person.

And yet another non-answer that is obvious and offers absolutely no value.

What are some of those reasons?   Offer something thoughtful.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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11.1.73  Right Down the Center  replied to  Thomas @11.1.70    3 weeks ago

Shocked.  But but but Trump

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.74  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.71    3 weeks ago
Why do people eat chicken?   Lots of reasons, some like the taste, others like the convenience, others like the versatility, others care more about the lower cost of chicken, some just eat chicken out of habit.

Those are all obvious.  Neither valuable or needed

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
11.1.75  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.74    3 weeks ago

Exactly my point!   So you recognize an example of obvious, non-valuable language.   Your comments follow that pattern.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.76  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.72    3 weeks ago
And yet another non-answer that is obvious and offers absolutely no value.

Then by all means, don't value it.  Or better yet just ignore it.

What are some of those reasons?   Offer something thoughtful.

Just insert one of your soliloquies here

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
11.1.77  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.75    3 weeks ago

Thanks you for the review.  I will give it all the careful consideration it deserves

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
11.1.78  Tacos!  replied to  Right Down the Center @11.1.68    3 weeks ago
All sorts of reasons that are personal to each person.

No, not personal. I can give you a couple dozen reasons that are factual, just off the top of my head. In any other candidate, at any other time in our history - and even for Kamala Harris - they would be considered disqualifying by almost everyone who votes.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
11.1.79  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.69    3 weeks ago

Sadly, the reasons that many are excited to vote for him, are the exact reasons the rest of us - including his own former staff and political allies - know he’s more than just a bad choice. He’s dangerous.

When is the last time a president ran for a second term and dozens of his own staff, and members of his own party endorsed the opposing candidate? I can’t think of a single time.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
11.1.80  JBB  replied to  Tacos! @11.1.79    3 weeks ago

Here is a complete list of all the Obama and Biden administration officials who pledged their success to Donald Trump!

Oops! So Sorry! But, there are not any...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
12  Tessylo    4 weeks ago

AS THE CAMPAIGN ENTERS ITS FINAL week, the attacks against Harris have taken on a harsher tone that has left the Trump campaign open to accusations of sexism. The America super PAC financed by billionaire Elon Musk recently released a web ad that repeatedly calls Harris "the C Word." Only later does it say she's a "communist." And during a podcast appearance just hours before the MSG rally, vice presidential candidate JD Vance repeatedly mocked Harris's laugh, calling it "very fraudulent" and "so off putting."

jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif Says the fraud shillbilly - vp of a very fraudulent 'campaign'

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
13  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago

Which has the left and news media been bothered more by and paid more attention to, the  assassination attempts against Trump or an insult comic? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
13.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @13    4 weeks ago

 the trump assassinations

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
13.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1    4 weeks ago

Lol. How many seeds on a comedian's joke now? 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
13.2  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @13    4 weeks ago
Which has the left and news media been bothered more by and paid more attention to, the  assassination attempts against Trump or an insult comic? 

Depends.

You may or may not want to consider this-- "the left"-- and the "leftist media"-- don't always post exactly the same things as each other!

Some may more attention to one, some more attention to the other.

(And guess what? On occasion they pay equal attention to both!)

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
13.2.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @13.2    4 weeks ago
Some may more attention to one, some more attention to the other. (And guess what? On occasion they pay equal attention to both!)

Although its possible you may not be aware of that fact, because you probably don't spend much time looking at Leftist Media", eh?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
14  seeder  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

actor John Leguizamo says vote Harris

800

video

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
14.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 weeks ago

Well, no one has ever accused him of being intelligent

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
14.1.1  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @14.1    3 weeks ago
no one has ever accused him of being intelligent

Not true-- I have actually known some who have!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
15  seeder  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

800

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
15.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @15    4 weeks ago

That can't be him.  He looks clean.  Must be an AI image.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
15.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Tessylo @15.1    4 weeks ago

He could be Rush Limbaugh's twin.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
15.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tessylo @15.1    4 weeks ago

probably an old photo

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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15.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gsquared @15.1.1    3 weeks ago

OMG! You're right!

 
 

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