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A Letter on Justice and Open Debate

A Letter on Justice and Open Debate


Via: Vic Eldred  •  21 comments  •  17 hours ago  •  LOCKED
Jul 08 11:26am @3.1.5 "..." Assimilating into a free society isn't about obtaining equality or freedom to do as one pleases.  Assimilation requires adopting the social contract and not abusing liberty.
Jul 08 10:35am @3.1.3 "..." Unfortunately the factions compete with each other for their own freedoms.  The best that can be achieved is peaceful coexistence between factions.  Factions do not naturally integrate....
Jul 08 9:02am @3.1.1 "..." How is it possible to overthrow a democratic majority?  There will be attempts to sow the seeds of division and foster antagonism between factions to avoid the emergence of a majority....
Jul 08 8:26am @3 We are not having a discussion or a debate.  The country is airing grievances and citing excuses.  Our political leaders have taught us that petulant protest has become the most viable means of...
Trump Tweets Out Yet Another Blatant Appeal To White Grievance

Trump Tweets Out Yet Another Blatant Appeal To White Grievance


By: JohnRussell  •  20 comments  •  2 days ago
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 53m Has @BubbaWallace apologized to all of those great NASCAR drivers & officials who came to his aid, stood by his side, & were willing to sacrifice everything for him, only to find out that the whole thing was just another HOAX? That...
Jul 07 9:46am @3.1.1 "..." Well, I don't know about apologizing.  Bubba Wallace has acknowledged that the incident wasn't what was being reported and that the whole affair was a little embarrassing.  That's a lot...
Jul 06 10:44am @3 White grievance?  Whatta hoot! NASCAR protected Bubba Wallace from a closet monster.
Dem Ga. State Rep.: 'Disband and Change Name of Democratic Party…It's Associated with Racism, Bigotry and Confederacy' | CNSNews

Dem Ga. State Rep.: 'Disband and Change Name of Democratic Party…It's Associated with Racism, Bigotry and Confederacy' | CNSNews


Via: badfish  •  18 comments  •  2 days ago
Jul 06 4:09pm @6 Let's face reality, the Democratic Party is not going to change.  Democrats will only smear more lipstick on the pig. IMO the Black population needs to establish their own party to represent their...
Police with lots of military gear kill civilians more often than less-militarized officers

Police with lots of military gear kill civilians more often than less-militarized officers


Via: Nerm_L  •  5 comments  •  2 days ago
Well, duh.  Train the police like Rambo, arm the police like Rambo, and the police are going to act like Rambo. Here's a bit of speculation to ponder.  Militarized police seem most prominent in Democratic controlled cities.  Police departments aren't taking military hardware because of need; they're taking military hardware because it is free.  Democratic politicians can't pass up free...
Jul 06 3:31pm @1.1.1 "..." Who do you think is going to pay for Derek Chauvin's fuck up?  It won't cost politicians a dime; they get their free stuff no matter what.  Even the fuck ups are a freebie for political...
Jul 06 2:21pm @1 Move 'em on, head 'em up, Cut 'em out, ride 'em in, RAWHIDE Cowboy cops ain't police officers.  And Rambo justice ain't law enforcement.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott needs your help to beat the coronavirus: Wear a mask

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott needs your help to beat the coronavirus: Wear a mask


Via: Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  •  119 comments  •  13 hours ago
Jul 06 3:21pm @5 The indicators were that Texas was ready to reopen.  The spread of the virus may not have been perfectly controlled but, nevertheless, was well under control. But Bubba Beerbelly is so exquisitely...
The Civil War Election

The Civil War Election


Via: Heartland American  •  16 comments  •  yesterday
This will be a decisive election.  The most significant in our lifetime for sure.  The character of our nation and our very freedom is at stake.  
Jul 06 1:53pm @3.1.3 "..." Ronald Reagan was one our country's greatest Democratic Confederates whose likeness should be carved on Stone Mountain alongside Jefferson Davis.  Both pursued the same goals.  That's why...
Jul 06 12:47pm @3.1.1 "..." From its beginning, the Republican Party has believed that industry and business provided progressive improvements for society.  That shouldn't be too surprising since the Republican Party...
Jul 06 12:00pm @3 The Democratic Party caused the first Civil War.  And the Democratic Party wants to fight another one because they lost the first one. Democrats cannot accept their own history.  For Democrats...
US should lead, not lecture, on China's crackdown in Hong Kong (Opinion)

US should lead, not lecture, on China's crackdown in Hong Kong (Opinion)


Via: Buzz of the Orient  •  40 comments  •  5 hours ago
Jul 06 12:13pm @3 Don't blame what China is doing to Hong Kong on the United States.  Chinese leadership is cracking down on Hong Kong.  The Chinese government is setting its own example.  And history will judge...
Air conditioning may be factor in COVID-19 spread in the South

Air conditioning may be factor in COVID-19 spread in the South


Via: Nerm_L  •  9 comments  •  3 days ago
If the coronavirus is airborne then social distancing becomes less effective, particularly indoors.  Recirculated air through air conditioning may spread the virus further.  Airborne spread of the virus increases the importance of using face coverings indoors to control spread of the virus.   One speculation floating around is that the virus has mutated to become more infectious by...
Jul 06 11:37am @2.1.4 "..." Face coverings control spread of the virus indoors with or without UV disinfection installed in the AC system.  UV disinfection does not increase the effectiveness of face coverings in...
Jul 06 10:54am @2.1.2 "..." A UV system can help reduce spread of the virus but the claim that UV systems are 99 pct effective is way overblown. A UV disinfectant system installed in an AC air handler doesn't...
Jul 06 10:19am @2.1 "..." The UV systems are only effective for air that passes through the system.  The air discharge from the AC system has been disinfected.  But the air must circulate through the indoor space...
Jul 06 8:33am @1 While it may sound nonsensical, wearing a face covering protects you by protecting others.  If the coronavirus is not allowed to spread then everyone has less risk of becoming infected. If all...
136,000 Americans DEAD from COVID19

136,000 Americans DEAD from COVID19


By: Eat The Press Do Not Read It  •  108 comments  •  2 days ago
And, still, the Sociopath in the White House refuses to wear a FACE MASK. Trump is juvenile, dangerous, and a continuous threat to the safety and well being of all Americans. What kind of world leader refuses to wear a mask during a pandemic because it makes him look weak. Is he still in the 7th grade? What elected leader to a public office has the temerity to calls a PANDEMIC, "Fake?"...
Jul 06 11:14am @4.3.16 "..." Why?  If Trump wears a mask then everyone would be chirping about Trump trying to protect himself and not doing nearly enough to protect the public.  And to prove Trump is being selfishly...
Jul 06 11:02am @4.3.15 "..." The purpose of face coverings is to control spread of the virus.  The purpose of face coverings is NOT to protect the wearer but to protect the public from the wearer. Trump has undergone...
Jul 06 9:18am @4.3.12 "..." Where did I say anything like that?  If the purpose is make dimwitted arguments, then you are succeeding.   When you're wrong, you're wrong.  And you are wrong.
Jul 05 9:35pm @4.3.7 "..." In the case of Dr. Fauci speaking without a mask, no one important is around.  Dr. Fauci was only speaking to reporters and Congressmen. "..." Considerations for Wearing Cloth Face...
Jul 05 11:43am @4.3.5 "..." Indoor air circulation spreads the virus over greater distances.  While there is scientific information to support that; common sense and practical experience clearly demonstrates that....
Jul 04 1:48pm @4.4.10 "..." The fit is only important to protect the wearer.  But the purpose of face coverings is to protect the public from the wearer. A face covering does the same thing as a handkerchief.  People...
Jul 04 1:26pm @4.4.3 "..." Dr. Fauci doesn't wear a mask when he stands at the podium to speak to the press corps or when speaking to a Congressional committee.  According to the pronouncements by scientific experts,...
Jul 04 10:58am @4.3.2 "..." Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer haven't been wearing masks when they speak.  The first thing they do before speaking is to remove their mask, if they have one.  Reporters haven't...
Jul 04 10:19am @4.4.1 "..." People are going to bitch about Trump; no matter what he does.  If Trump says the sky is blue then a host of scientific experts will roam across the blogosphere to prove Trump is wrong.  If...
Jul 03 1:10pm @4 Why is it so very important that Donald Trump be seen wearing a mask?  Why is it necessary to make face coverings a political issue?
Statue Destroyed Of Famed Black Abolitionist Frederick Douglass On Anniversary Of Notable Speech

Statue Destroyed Of Famed Black Abolitionist Frederick Douglass On Anniversary Of Notable Speech


Via: Vic Eldred  •  73 comments  •  3 days ago  •  LOCKED
Jul 06 9:46am @4.1.4 "..." Then why do you articulate racism on News Talkers? History proves through the sacrifice of many that the United States was not racist.  Yet you are perpetuating a racial stereotype.  
Jul 06 9:25am @4.1.2 "..." The 'emancipators' could have allowed slavery to continue another EIGHTY SEVEN years.  The slaves did not free themselves.   What did the 'emancipators' get out of the deal?  National...
Jul 06 9:03am @4 Why is this surprising?  Destruction of the statue by fucking idiot protesters is just as plausible as some idiotic act of retaliation.  Fucking idiots control the streets.  Whether they are on the...
Image of Thomas Jefferson alongside Black descendant holds 'a mirror' to America

Image of Thomas Jefferson alongside Black descendant holds 'a mirror' to America


Via: Perrie Halpern R.A.  •  13 comments  •  3 days ago
Jul 05 2:15pm @2.1.8 "..." As I pointed out, Shannon LaNier is celebrating a romanticized narrative of unfilled promise.  But is the promise of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness a promise of equal...
Jul 05 12:09pm @2.1.4 "..." Didn't read the seeded article, did you?  Or are you only seeing what you want to see?
Jul 05 10:27am @2.1.1 "..." In the article Shannon LaNier is saying that he is here today because Thomas Jefferson owned people.  Note that Drew Gardner is not Shannon LaNier.  The article is presenting two viewpoints.
Jul 05 10:06am @2 So, why has Shannon LaNier chosen to celebrate his legacy of slavery?  Why does Shannon LaNier want to be seen as a slave-American? Not all Black people in the United States are descendants of...
Good News: A Majority of Americans Prefer ‘All Lives Matter’

Good News: A Majority of Americans Prefer ‘All Lives Matter’


Via: Heartland American  •  230 comments  •  yesterday
This poll is good news!  We should embrace it.  America should be all inclusive rather than picking out single groups that matter.  This is a hopeful sign.  
Jul 05 11:05am @9 Not all Black people in the United States share a heritage of slavery in the United States.  Since the Black Lives Matter movement is emphasizing the legacy of slavery in the United States then...
Mexico closes border in Arizona as coronavirus cases in both countries surge

Mexico closes border in Arizona as coronavirus cases in both countries surge


Via: Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  •  84 comments  •  yesterday
Jul 05 9:55am @6 Illegal immigrants do not respect the border.  And illegal immigrants travel in both directions. When the flow of migrants back to Mexico carries money then the Mexican government turns a blind...
WHO halts hydroxychloroquine trials after failure to reduce death

WHO halts hydroxychloroquine trials after failure to reduce death


Via: JBB  •  14 comments  •  3 days ago
And here I thought I read hydroxychloroquine was worth a damn...butt I guess not!
Jul 05 9:43am @5 More importantly the World Health Organization did not indicate that hydroxychloroquine caused harm.  The drug is important for treating malaria which is a much larger global problem than the...
E.U. coronavirus safe list: This is why the U.S. was nowhere near making the cut

E.U. coronavirus safe list: This is why the U.S. was nowhere near making the cut


Via: Perrie Halpern R.A.  •  21 comments  •  5 days ago
Jul 03 4:34pm @3.1.1 "..." So, kick the Republicans out.  But simply removing Republicans from government won't accomplish anything. Democrats will need to stand up and take responsibility.  
Jul 03 10:38am @3 Good news.  How can we make this permanent? If we can convince those affluent American tourists to spend their money in the United States then, perhaps, something meaningful might have been...
Breaking : Washington Redskins Football Team Likely To Change Name Under Pressure From Sponsors

Breaking : Washington Redskins Football Team Likely To Change Name Under Pressure From Sponsors


By: JohnRussell  •  143 comments  •  3 days ago
Faced with financial losses as merchandising partners threaten to cut ties with the team, the ownership of the Washington Redskins NFL team announced today that it will review the franchises name for the future, seen as a sure sign that the 'Redskins' name is history. 
Jul 03 3:15pm @5.1.3 "..." Oh, that's right.  Minnesota is in flyover country and isn't important except for police murdering Black people. How about the Miami Dolphins?  Miami is named after the Mayaimi American...
Jul 03 2:45pm @5.1.1 "..." Doesn't bother me at all.  If someone wants to be offended, that's their business.  What is concerning is that everyone just stands around and pees down their legs. You do know that the...
Jul 03 2:18pm @5 Wouldn't it be more productive to just get rid of the NFL?  As long as the NFL continues there will always be a chance that someone will be offended.  The only way to completely and permanently end...
Rioters Destroy Historic 120-Year-Old 'Elk Fountain' Statue In Portland

Rioters Destroy Historic 120-Year-Old 'Elk Fountain' Statue In Portland


Via: badfish  •  23 comments  •  5 days ago
Retarded Communist asshats have declared the Elk a symbol of hate.
Jul 03 2:29pm @8.2 "..." Oh, good.  Nothing to see here, move along. It certainly doesn't help the cause to acknowledge that fucking idiots are really just fucking idiots.
The progressive climate plan is heavy on symbols and burdens

The progressive climate plan is heavy on symbols and burdens


Via: Nerm_L  •  2 comments  •  6 days ago
Same reheated tripe, different day. Democrats have no more intention of addressing climate change than do Republicans.  Republicans and Democrats are arguing over money.  They are not arguing about the climate or the environment.   We know what is causing climate change: consumption of energy.  Changing the source of energy will only create new, exciting environmental problems that...
Jul 03 2:02pm @1 Conservation is the key to addressing environmental problems.  But there isn't any profit in conservation.  Democrats and Republicans care more about money than about the environment.
The creator of Mount Rushmore’s forgotten ties to white supremacy

The creator of Mount Rushmore’s forgotten ties to white supremacy


Via: JohnRussell  •  37 comments  •  4 days ago
Jul 03 1:16pm @1.1.7 "..." So, get rid of the United States.  There isn't anything about the United States worth saving.  Last guy out turns off the lights.
Jul 03 11:04am @2 So, dynamite the damned thing and get it over with.  No, need to keep peeing down your legs.
American Song

American Song


By: JohnRussell  •  12 comments  •  6 days ago
Patriotic Songs And Songs About The American Experience THE HOUSE I LIVE IN - Frank Sinatra AMERICAN ANTHEM - Norah Jones  SAN FRANCISCO - Vikki Carr THE YELLOW ROSE OF TEXAS -  Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys  BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS - Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
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Enduring through war and Depression, Independence Day now threatened by blind hatred of past

Enduring through war and Depression, Independence Day now threatened by blind hatred of past


Via: Vic Eldred  •  17 comments  •  6 days ago  •  LOCKED
Jul 03 10:25am @4 Independence Day is just another commercial opportunity.  Last guy out turn off the lights.
Why is there a hostility towards science?

Why is there a hostility towards science?


By: Gordy327  •  396 comments  •  5 days ago
One thing the Covid crisis has shown us is the apparent hostility the general populace has towards science. This is (a simplification) demonstrated by people refusing to social distance or wear face masks, despite scientific guidelines and evidence showing their efficacy. Or when people directly contradict science by saying masks do not work, Covid is a hoax, or some similar nonsense, even...
Jul 02 5:00pm @8.1.68 "..." How is Dr. Fauci using science in a political / sociological role? Dr. Fauci has been making formal authoritarian announcements and declarations about actions to control the pandemic.  How...
Jul 02 1:13pm @8.1.66 "..." Is that supposed to be some sort of refutation? Modern science benefits those who own and control the science.  Scientific knowledge is now intellectual property.  Scientific research in...
Jul 02 12:07pm @8.1.65 "..." Was Dr. Anthony Fauci elected?  Is Dr. Anthony Fauci a priest?  Isn't Dr. Anthony Fauci exercising authority as a scientific expert? How has Dr. Anthony Fauci been using science? Why...
Jul 02 11:57am @8.1.64 "..." A worker goes to his boss and explains the number of rejects has spiked.  The worker isn't sure what the problem is and doesn't know how to fix the problem.  The worker is the expert who...
Jul 02 11:23am @8.1.62 "..." You posted two definitions for the term 'authoritative' didn't you?  Don't both definitions describe authority?  Definition 1:  able to be trusted as being accurate or true; reliable....
Jul 02 10:40am @8.1.60 "..." How can the public trust the evidence? Scientists have found that weather observations collected in the past do not correspond to observations collected using recently adopted methodology....
Jul 02 10:01am @8.1.56 "..." What is it about science being authoritarian do you not understand?  What is it about science being used to control the public and control the future do you not understand?  SCIENCE IS...
Jul 02 9:24am @8.1.54 "..." Actually I had more exposure to science than most.  When I was a kid, atomic energy was the sexy science.  Atomic ships, atomic submarines, atomic airplanes, atomic trains, atomic cars,...
Jul 01 6:21pm @8.1.42 "..." Once again you a making a false allegation and are trying to move the goal post.  I never claimed anyone on this thread said scientific knowledge was authoritative.  I asked a question:...
Jul 01 5:16pm @8.1.41 "..." That is correct.  I stated a contention for discussion and debate. "..." That is false.  I have repeatedly used terms that supported my contention that science is authoritarian.  If you...
Jul 01 4:37pm @8.1.39 "..." Then scientific truth must be persuasive (truth whose accuracy and reliability is uncertain).  Since scientific knowledge has been wrong before and scientific knowledge changes then...
Jul 01 4:11pm @8.1.35 "..." I understand completely.  I was a practicing engineer myself, long ago and far away.  I've dealt with a lot of scientists professionally.  It seems snarky was part of the training....
Jul 01 3:29pm @8.1.33 "..." That is false.  TiG disputed the use of the term 'authoritative' which I addressed by directly answering TiG's allegations with a rational and reasonable rebuttal @8.1.12 .  Since I...
Jul 01 2:58pm @8.1.28 "..." Yeah, it's the same dance, different day.  Scientists prefer a circle jerk because there aren't any corners.   Science is never wrong; science evolves.  But no one admits that evolving...
Jul 01 12:12pm @8.1.25 "..." You are making baseless accusations, in a political manner, hoping something will stick. My position has been clear.  Science is authoritarian.  Scientists, such as Dr. Fauci, issue...
Jul 01 8:44am @8.1.23 "..." Then people need to stop making declarations and dictates as though science had some sort of authority. "..." That's true, creationism is not science.  Creationism is a spiritual and...
Jul 01 7:36am @8.1.22 "..." The allegation was about using the term 'authoritative' in a consistent manner.  You've moved the goal post again. You are playing these circle games to avoid answering questions.  You...