Why has fact-checking disappeared under Biden?

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  2 months ago  •  44 comments

By:   Joe Concha, Opinion Contributor (The Hill)

Why has fact-checking disappeared under Biden?
But apparently fact-checkers are mostly on a four-year sabbatical at this point. And it's pathetic.

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No, no, no.  There just isn't any such thing as liberal bias in press.  The facts speak for themselves.

When Republicans are in charge, the press assiduously turns facts into lies.  When Democrats are in charge, the press goes to great lengths to turn lies into facts.

For the press, the ends justify the means.


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



Fact-checking under President Trump was a bustling business. Seemingly every day, and sometimes by the hour, the 45th president's every word was scrutinized, which all comes with the job.

But under President Biden, fact checkers are enjoying what feels like extended vacations or have simply checked out in terms of scrutinizing the many ways that he is misleading the public.

Take CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale as a prime example of apathy around holding the current president accountable.

From June 2019 until November 2020, Dale appeared or was mentioned on CNN more than once per day, on average, according to Mediaite. Estimating conservatively, that's more than 500 appearances or mentions on a national network in the span of just 16 months.

But Dale has become the fact-checker version of Edward Snowden under Biden. He's almost impossible to find these days. In fact, Dale has not conducted even one fact-check of the president since June.

Of course, Biden supporters will insist that Dale simply doesn't have any material to work with. But that's not true. In August, Biden declared that inflation in July was zero, despite the number being near a 40-year high at 8.3 percent.

Last week, Biden claimed the Inflation Reduction Act, which numerous studies have concluded will do almost nothing to reduce inflation, had already "helped reduce inflation at the kitchen table." In a related story, food prices rose again in August, with the Consumer Price Index up 10.6 percent year-over-year.

There are many other examples from the summer, but you get the point: The most powerful man in the country needs to be held accountable for his words and actions, particularly in an election year, when each side is attempting to shape the narrative through the press. But fact-checkers at mainstream outlets refuse to do it.

The situation is worse when it comes to White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. She has been fact-checked only once by Politifact since June.

This is the same press secretary who claimed earlier this month that people aren't just walking into this country across the U.S. Southern border, when in fact it's happening daily, per border agents and reporting on the ground.

She also claimed the Biden administration is "doing a lot more [than the Trump administration] to secure the border."

Yup. She claimed that the administration that halted border wall construction and ended the effective "Remain in Mexico" policy is doing more than the previous administration to secure the border.

In a related story, the numbers don't lie: More than 2 million migrants will come into this country illegally this year, an all-time record. This is the easiest of fact-checks to make, but Politifact doesn't seem interested. Why?

Overall, since taking over for Jen Psaki on May 13, Jean-Pierre has not been fact-checked at all by Factcheck.org, the Associated Press, Reuters, Washington Post or CNN. This is the equivalent of being a toll collector in an E-Z Pass lane, a job that doesn't require, you know, actually working.

The perception of fact-checkers has taken a big hit as a result, at least among Republicans and independents. A Pew Research survey found that seven in 10 self-identified Republicans say fact-checkers favor one side, while nearly half of independents feel the same way.

The midterm elections are 50 days from now. The balance of power in Washington hangs in the balance. More than ever, words matter.

Lies and half-truths must be called out. It shouldn't matter if a Republican or Democrat occupies the Oval Office. Fact-checkers must hold lawmakers and other public officials accountable without favor to party.

But apparently fact-checkers are mostly on a four-year sabbatical at this point. And it's pathetic.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    2 months ago

The fact of the matter is that facts don't matter.  At least not when 'you know who' is running things.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Nerm_L @1    2 months ago

Biden is getting a pass because of his senility.

Press Secretary checks too many boxes to get fact checked.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    2 months ago
Press Secretary checks too many boxes to get fact checked.

She is a member of the leftist trifecta.

Because of that, liberal fact checkers know better than to question what she says.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @1    2 months ago

"Why Has Fact-Checking Disappeared Under Biden?"

According to who?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    2 months ago
According to who?

According to the seeded article.  Reading the article really is necessary to understand the headline.

It's not like the Inflation Reduction Act.  The headline really does relate to what's in the article.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2.1    2 months ago
Reading the article really is necessary to understand the headline.

But if they are confused by words like "the" or "a" then reading won't help their understanding.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.3  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.2    2 months ago
But if they are confused by words like "the" or "a" then reading won't help their understanding.

That's a problem when people start thinking in terms of 'them' and 'they'.  The fact of the matter is that facts don't matter.  Facts are incomprehensible to some.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    2 months ago

We all know why.  The (d) after his name. 

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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3  SteevieGee    2 months ago

What a bunch of crap.  Politifact is still doing fact checks all the time.  Joe biden's scorecard shows his fact-checked statements were true, mostly true, or half true, 57% of the time.  Hardly newsworthy so you have to actually look for it. For a comparison DJT's scorecard  shows true, mostly true, or half true, at a measly 23%.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1  bugsy  replied to  SteevieGee @3    2 months ago

If you look at what it was "fact checkers" were looking at during the Trump years, most had nothing to do with what affected this country. It was mostly things he said that hurt liberal feelings, and the "false" determinations ere based on opinions only.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2  Texan1211  replied to  SteevieGee @3    2 months ago

So 40% of what they checked for Biden is mostly false, false, or pants on fire false.

Biden's mouthpiece Pierre has 2 false ratings out of 2.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2.1  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2    2 months ago
Biden's mouthpiece Pierre has 2 false ratings out of 2.

Probably just from Friday

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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3.2.2  SteevieGee  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2    2 months ago
So 40% of what they checked for Biden is mostly false, false, or pants on fire false. Biden's mouthpiece Pierre has 2 false ratings out of 2.

So...  By your own statement the article posted here is false.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  SteevieGee @3.2.2    2 months ago
your own statement the article posted here is false.

Which fact in the article is false? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  SteevieGee @3.2.2    2 months ago
So...  By your own statement the article posted here is false.

Not at all.

One actually has to read the article to know that it says quite clearly that "But apparently fact-checkers are mostly on a four-year sabbatical at this point. And it's pathetic.".

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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3.2.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.4    2 months ago

Hey Tex, in your opinion, who won the last Presidential

election ?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.2.5    2 months ago

Biden. BTW, that is a fact, not an opinion. Do YOU have an opinion on it or do you recognize facts?

Here's a question for you:

What does THAT question have to do with anything?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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3.2.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.6    2 months ago
What does THAT question have to do with anything?

That IS Trumps' KING of LIES, out of his 30,000 plus, and is enough, or SHOULD have been, to take him out of even consideration, all while he is now pushing Q tips into the ears of others, asz in sisters and brothers, fathers and Mutherz,

All Pols LIE to a degree , but NONE have i ever seen LIE to the extent of Trump. There is an obvious logical reason fact checkers are NOT so busy under Biden their time waiting for more Trump like lines, and it is due to him NOT Lying over and over EVERY DAMN DAY !

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.2.7    2 months ago

From that garbled reply, it does appear you didn't read the article or didn't understand it if you did read it.

I am not surprised by that any more than I am by your failure to answer what I asked even though I extended you that courtesy.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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3.2.9  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.8    2 months ago
From that garbled reply, it does appear you didn't read the article or didn't understand it if you did read it.

hey Tex, just because you don't often comprehend my correspondence, does not mean I do not, nor did  not, not understand, answer, to point, and within answer, an on topic reply of Y, fact checking is , somehow, not required nearly as often.

G, what ever could be the reason that fact checkers R suddenly in need of other employment, right after the election..../.?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.2.9    2 months ago
hey Tex, just because you don't often comprehend my correspondence, does not mean I do not, nor did  not, not understand, answer, to point, and within answer, an on topic reply of Y, fact checking is , somehow, not required nearly as often.

To me, your posts show a lack of comprehension for what you have claimed to have read.

I have no need or desire to unscramble the typical word salad.

But, hey, you DID manage to work Trump into a seeded article having nothing to do with him, so I am sure someone somewhere is proud of you and is readying your participation trophy.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.2.7    2 months ago
That IS Trumps' KING of LIES,

So he's a politician, no different than Biden, Pelosi, and Schiff.  But lets hyper-focus on ONE and ignore the rest who, over their careers have fed you bullshit that you lapped up like a starving cat.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.12  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.2.7    2 months ago
That IS Trumps' KING of LIES, out of his 30,000 plus, and is enough, or SHOULD have been, to take him out of even consideration, all while he is now pushing Q tips into the ears of others, asz in sisters and brothers, fathers and Mutherz, All Pols LIE to a degree , but NONE have i ever seen LIE to the extent of Trump. There is an obvious logical reason fact checkers are NOT so busy under Biden their time waiting for more Trump like lines, and it is due to him NOT Lying over and over EVERY DAMN DAY !

256

What you're saying is the factchecker squirrels haven't run out of nuts.  They've just stopped juggling.  (Yeah, LOOK SQUIRREL!)

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.13  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.11    2 months ago
So he's a politician, no different than Biden, Pelosi, and Schiff.  But lets hyper-focus on ONE and ignore the rest who, over their careers have fed you bullshit that you lapped up like a starving cat.

if it wasn't for Trump, over half the folks here would be unable to post.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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3.2.14  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.10    2 months ago
But, hey, you DID manage to work Trump into a seeded article

"Fact-checking under President Trump was a bustling business. Seemingly every day, and sometimes by the hour, the 45th president's every word was scrutinized, which all comes with the job.

But under President Biden, fact checkers are enjoying what feels like extended vacations"

This is the OPENING of the article U supposedly just read, so do please explain how Trump is somehow not discussed. The article is complaining not enough fact checking of Biden after Trump was RIGHTFULLY Scrutinized far more, for he told FAR MORE LIES ! Check THAT FACT Tex.

Also, explain your comprehension, as in lack of, cause the damn opening statement HAS Trump in it. I simply explained WHY, as in the cause of the NUMBER OF TRUMP LIES ! and he's now pushing Q tips into ears, with what are simply theories corny. Theories of conspiracy, that any thinking individual should be easily able to see, cause Trump prefers his stories a little more traumatic, with Stars of Porny, and maybe that gets some horny, but he doesn;t do it for the vast majority of US out here, cause were not quite as queer, as folks occasionally not thinking to the 'right' depth, for in their minds, conspiracy can sink deep and very inept, like Zombie Worms, as they twist and squirms when pressed by soles not buying what he be trying, to sell. Shoeing away reality isn;t as easy as it is for others, and fck the covers, prefer three  sheets to the wind to blow the sale, of BULLSHIT into the ears of too many round hears, and it is a ttroubling trend, whence ears be so easy to bend with Q tips and LIES that can't and won't soon mend,

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.2.14    2 months ago

Some of us learned how to identify topics in school and others obviously think that a mention of something makes it a topic.

Do you have any Italian dressing?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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3.2.16  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.15    2 months ago
Some of us learned how to identify topics in school and others obviously think that a mention of something makes it a topic.

Some of US learned ;

"The first sentence in a news article is the summary sentence, sometimes called the "lead," which is comparable to a topic sentence. It tells what the article will be about in the most concise terms. Everything else in the article adds details to the story as expressed in that sentence. It should include the answers to most of the questions who, what, where, why, and when."

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.17  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.2.16    2 months ago

I am sorry if you somehow totally misconstrued the article to be about Trump.

It isn't.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.3  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  SteevieGee @3    2 months ago
What a bunch of crap.  Politifact is still doing fact checks all the time.  Joe biden's scorecard shows his fact-checked statements were true, mostly true, or half true, 57% of the time.  Hardly newsworthy so you have to actually look for it. For a comparison DJT's scorecard  shows true, mostly true, or half true, at a measly 23%.

Politifact is aptly named.  Pretty easy to squirrel the numbers by carefully selecting what is fact checked.

Politifact is reporting 238 checks on Joe Biden versus 953 checks on Donald Trump.  Biden's fact checks are mostly about policy statements.  Trump's fact checks are mostly about political statements.

But, hey, the ends justify the means.  Rigging the game is just business as usual -- for liberal minded factcheckers.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.3.1  pat wilson  replied to  Nerm_L @3.3    2 months ago
Politifact is reporting 238 checks on Joe Biden versus 953 checks on Donald Trump

See 3.2.7 for the obvious reason.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.3.2  bugsy  replied to  pat wilson @3.3.1    2 months ago

Can you translate it for us?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.3.3  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  pat wilson @3.3.1    2 months ago
See 3.2.7 for the obvious reason.

I see. Trump is a liar (according to the fact checkers) so it's unnecessary to even pay any attention to Biden.

You know, it just ain't a fact that Biden is as honest as the day is long.  Just because the press rigs its fact checking so Biden appears to be honest doesn't make it so.  

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.3.4  pat wilson  replied to  Nerm_L @3.3.3    2 months ago
You know, it just ain't a fact that Biden is as honest as the day is long.

You know, I didn't say that and don't recall any member of the press saying it either. But next to trump Biden is Honest Abe.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.3.5  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  pat wilson @3.3.4    2 months ago
You know, I didn't say that and don't recall any member of the press saying it either. But next to trump Biden is Honest Abe.

So, does that mean Trump is the squirrel?  Biden lies -- look squirrel!

Too bad Biden can't stand on his own.  Biden has to hide behind Trump.  

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.3.6  pat wilson  replied to  Nerm_L @3.3.5    2 months ago

I can't make any sense out of your reply.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.3.7  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  pat wilson @3.3.6    2 months ago
I can't make any sense out of your reply.

No surprises there.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  pat wilson @3.3.1    2 months ago

Gee, I thought the obvious reason was that Biden was a democrat.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4  Texan1211    2 months ago

As if many of us didn't already know much of the media is in the tank for Democrats.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5  Drinker of the Wry    2 months ago
“Right now, I have the strongest record of growing manufacturing jobs in modern history.” President Biden, tweet, Sept. 10

It must have been his Grow Manufacturing Jobs Act that he got Congress to pass.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  Sean Treacy    2 months ago

The Biden administration knows it doesn't even have to try anymore.  Clinton famously went overboard trying to spin arguments using points that had at least some truth in them.

Biden just issues Orwellian declarations like "the border is secure" and knows the MSM will parrot the narrative and ignore reality.

 
 
 
squiggy
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7  squiggy    2 months ago

I'd like to see the fact-checkers out this morning - the pandemic's over and US troops will defend Taiwan?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  squiggy @7    2 months ago

And don't forget: All of a sudden: he may not run in 2024.

The WH quickly corrected him on the US defending Taiwan. That should be an easy fact-check. As you say: where the hell are they?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  squiggy @7    2 months ago
ut this morning - the pandemic's over and US troops will defend Taiwan?

The people who actually run the executive branch  aren't going to be happy.   

No wonder Biden is only allowed about  an interview a year

 
 
 
squiggy
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8  squiggy    2 months ago

Ah ha! I've been digging diligently and have found one cold, hard truth -

“Look, my intention, as I said to begin with, is that I would run again,” he said. “But it’s just an intention. But is it a firm decision that I run again? That remains to be seen.”

 
 

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