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Ukraine could be looking at another Maidan

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  last year  •  7 comments

By:   Jamie Dettmer (POLITICO)

Ukraine could be looking at another Maidan
After the war, there will be high expectations, but it will be a perilous and difficult slog for Ukraine to rebuild and reform.

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KYIV — "I was on the streets for the Orange Revolution when I was in my last year at university in 2004, and I was on the streets again in 2014. So, the 10-year mark of when we tend to mount revolutions is approaching," said Inna Sovsun, an opposition lawmaker for Ukraine's liberal pro-European Holos party.

And she suspects there's another political upheaval on its way.

Sat in a cafe overlooking Kyiv's Independence Square, where nearly a decade ago hundreds of thousands of frustrated Ukrainians protested and toppled Viktor Yanukovych — Russian President Vladimir Putin's satrap — the 38-year-old mother-of-one, whose partner is now serving as a combat doctor in Bakhmut, spoke about the the possibility of another Maidan.

The 2014 Maidan Revolution had unforeseen consequences, of course, setting in motion events that have led Ukraine to where it is today — defending itself against a Russian invasion ordered by a revanchist and resentful Putin. And much as that color revolution had repercussions, so will the war, which is forging a strong sense of nationhood and raising huge expectations of a better future — expectations that will be hard to meet.

Sovsun isn't alone in seeing another upheaval on the horizon. A former Ukrainian cabinet minister told me matter-of-factly, "You know, Maidan could happen again." Asking not to be named so he could discuss sensitive topics freely — like many other lawmakers, reformers and civil society leaders — he was circumspect in speaking out publicly for fear of undermining the war effort and providing propaganda fodder for Russia.

"This war has triggered great hopes, and people will be very impatient for change," he said. "They will want money and justice and the completion of the reform they demanded back in 2014, and they will want them quickly."

And while navigating the tempestuous postwar political waters would be difficult for any leader, according to the former minister, it will be especially so for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, as he's become part of the problem — a leader with autocratic tendencies.

That may sound surprising, looking in from the outside. After all, for a year now, Zelenskyy has been lauded as the embodiment of Ukrainian resistance, and even an icon of democracy. He's still applauded for declining America's offer for a ride out of Kyiv when Russian tanks were a menacing 60 kilometers from the capital, and his inspirational wartime rhetoric and spellbinding oratory have been instrumental in persuading the United States and Europe to back Ukraine in its existential hour of need.

Zelenskyy's leadership, communication skills and indomitable spirit garner praise at home in Ukraine too. His poll numbers are sky high — only the army polls higher. But seasoned observers say his 84 percent approval rating is the result of a rally-round-the-flag sentiment, and they predict his numbers will plunge once the existential threat has gone — much as they did soon after the populist comedian-turned-president was elected by a landslide in 2019, having promised to defend the interests of the people against the rich and the ruling class.

Unfortunately, Zelenskyy was unable reprise his role as TV's "president of the people" in real life, his support at one point plummeting to just 11 percent, after sacking a reform-minded prime minister, stacking his government with friends and former business partners, and getting nowhere with his anti-corruption drive. Instead, the Ukrainian president was accused of becoming increasingly autocratic and flouting laws by issuing presidential decrees to sanction foes, all in the name of battling Russian aggression — but, according to some critics, also with an eye toward disrupting his political opponents.

Four months before Russia invaded, Zelenskyy and two close associates were also implicated in offshore financial activity. Based on the Pandora Papers — a cache of documents revealing the offshore activities of political leaders and other prominent individuals worldwide — the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project disclosed that the Ukrainian leader had established offshore companies before becoming president but continued to profit from them after taking office. Zelenskyy, for his part, denied any money laundering or illegality with the funds.

Reproach for his prewar record is not for now, political opponents say — but after the guns have gone silent, there will be questions regarding events leading up to the war, and why Zelenskyy ignored stark intelligence warnings from the West about the high probability of a Russian invasion and failed to put Ukraine on a war footing much earlier.

Now and again, however, those questions are raised even in the middle of the war — the issue last flared up in August, when a cascade of public criticism followed Zelenskyy's remarks on why he downplayed the warnings of an imminent attack, claiming he had to because Ukrainians would otherwise panic, flee and trigger economic collapse.

Opposition politicians and civil society leaders interviewed by POLITICO said Zelenskyy will also be under the gun over how he and his tight-knit team of old pals and onetime business partners have governed during the war — in a way not dissimilar to how they did so before the invasion, trying to establish a "managed democracy" with one dominant party.

"Of course, we need to support the government, and we need to remain united," said Mykola Knyazhytsky, an opposition lawmaker from the western city of Lviv. "But I worry about the future of democracy in my country. Even in wartime, there must be political opposition, the democratic process must continue, there must be parliamentary oversight," he said.

Like others, Knyazhytsky noted that Zelenskyy's taking advantage of presidential wartime authority and martial law to grab more power, to control the television media, to sideline parliament and to disregard legislative oversight on how government funds are being disbursed — and to whom — and whether its beneficiaries are business allies of the Ukrainian president or companies tied to members of his ruling party.

Some also fear the global adulation Zelenskyy's now receiving is feeding a folie de grandeur. "He thinks he's the number one politician in the world and that Joe Biden is way, way below him, and even further down [are] leaders like Macron and Scholz," the former minister said, adding that it isn't healthy and augurs badly. Like others, he mentioned that the Ukrainian leader seems to begrudge sharing the stage or the limelight, much like an actor wanting all the best lines, while a former Zelenskyy aide said his office is always scouring polling data to check no one is eclipsing him.

According to critics, this determination to be an undiminished protagonist may go some way in explaining why Zelenskyy is spurning calls to form a coalition government, or a government of all the talents in Ukraine, during the country's hour of need.

But Tymofiy Mylovanov, president of the Kyiv School of Economics who is also a former minister of economic development and an informal adviser to the government, dismisses the claim that Zelenskyy has an autocratic streak. "Fundamentally, Zelenskyy responds to what people want . . . In my view, Ukraine is very lucky to have him. I think previous presidents would have capitulated in the first few weeks of the war and negotiated," he said.

According to Mylovanov, Zelenskyy is building a nation-state and thus has no choice but to bypass institutions because too often they're captured by vested interests. "No one knows what bigger perspective Zelenskyy has in mind. I think he has changed his views over the last three years on the job as he learns and as he understands the broader perspective and the forces at play. I think, in many ways, he understands more than most of us," he added.

And in January, during one of his nightly television addresses, Zelenskyy had indeed assured Ukrainians that "there will be no return to the way things used to be."

But those remarks came in the middle of a corruption scandal surrounding illicit payments and over-inflated military contracts, which led to a string of resignations and dismissals of several senior Ukrainian officials — including five regional governors and four deputy ministers. The scandal came to light after an investigative journalist published details of fraudulent contracts when the government failed to act.

Meanwhile, Zelenskyy's assurances don't assuage some veteran observers of the country either. "We have not seen significant enough efforts to address corruption — although perhaps with one important exception," said a former senior U.S. diplomat who has considerable experience in Ukraine. "I think they really are trying to prevent diversion of any of the massive Western assistance they're receiving. I believe they do understand the risks, if there were to be a major scandal."

But the former diplomat said that what struck him in recent meetings with opposition politicians and civil society leaders in Kyiv was how, "on the one hand, they truly appreciate Zelenskyy's strength as a war leader," but are "deeply worried also about corruption and his authoritarian style."

"In their minds, there is going to be a reckoning as soon as the war ends," he said. "And I think that's probably going to be true."


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    last year

Vlodymyr Zelensky and Vladimir Putin are interchangeable.  So, defeating Russia won't be the end of it.  If the United States tries to national build then the situation will undoubtedly become much worse.  Why does the United States always tie itself to corrupt puppets?

The end of the war won't be the end by a long shot.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @1    last year

WRONG

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    last year

Wrong about what?

Ukraine was a fester POS of corruption before the war. It will be the exact same after the war.

Don't worry; the US political elite and their family/friends will be there to take full advantage of the billions taxpayers will be forced to send to rebuild Ukraine. 

The only question is if Zelensky will still be in charge; or some other corrupt POS.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.1    last year
Don't worry; the US political elite and their family/friends will be there to take full advantage of the billions taxpayers will be forced to send to rebuild Ukraine

And Biden's dealings will be pushed further into the shadows.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Nerm_L @1    last year

The first order of business is to neuter Putin and at least reach a stalemate on the battlefield...with the continuing material support by the US and many nations.

 With the hostilities ended, I suspect the Ukrainian people will figure out what kind of leadership they want...be it Zelensky or someone else. I doubt that they would install yet more corrupt politicians

I would think that they would want to align themselves with Western governments for the most part. I can't see that it would be in the best interests of the pro Russia people in the Eastern regions to continue to be beholden to a weakened and bankrupt Russia.

 

 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    last year
The first order of business is to neuter Putin and at least reach a stalemate on the battlefield...with the continuing material support by the US and many nations.

That's the first order of business for the United States. 

With the hostilities ended, I suspect the Ukrainian people will figure out what kind of leadership they want...be it Zelensky or someone else. I doubt that they would install yet more corrupt politicians

The Maidan was a nationalist movement.  Joining the European Union only replaces Moscow with Brussels.  Joining the EU gives up a large amount of national autonomy.  Ukrainian people aren't going to accept that, either.

I would think that they would want to align themselves with Western governments for the most part. I can't see that it would be in the best interests of the pro Russia people in the Eastern regions to continue to be beholden to a weakened and bankrupt Russia.

The war in Donbas wasn't about aligning with Europe or Russia.  The separatists were fighting for autonomy.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.2  Ronin2  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    last year
With the hostilities ended, I suspect the Ukrainian people will figure out what kind of leadership they want...be it Zelensky or someone else. I doubt that they would install yet more corrupt politicians

Why not? We still install them here all the time. Ukraine has a long deep rich history of corruption. Zelensky moving to silence and imprison his opposition does nothing to change that. 

I would think that they would want to align themselves with Western governments for the most part.

Of course they are going to align themselves with the West; especially the US. They need the foreign aid to continue to flow into the country. The more money the better. Not that it will get to where it is supposed to go; or won't find it's way back into the pockets of foreign political elites taking advantage. 

I can't see that it would be in the best interests of the pro Russia people in the Eastern regions to continue to be beholden to a weakened and bankrupt Russia.

I can't see the pro Russia (meaning the Russian people in Ukraine) having much of a future after the war. The Fascists in Ukraine are gaining power, not losing it. They will be the heroes that defeated Russia after the war is over. They were trying to drive Ukrainian citizens that were Russian out before the war- that process will be expedited after the war. Those that won't, or can't return, to Russia will face constant attacks and harassment. The best the Russians in Ukraine can hope for is that the war drags on for too long; and Ukraine cannot sustain the losses they are incurring. In other words Ukraine runs out of people to throw into the grinder. Russia keeps Crimea (no matter what that is going to happen); and secures most of the territory in the SE where the majority of Russians reside. 

Don't worry, the West will continue to pump weapons and money into Ukraine after the war; and Russia will rebuild their military- so in 5 or 10 years we can have another military conflict that will solve nothing.

 
 

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