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Do you believe in angels? About 7 in 10 U.S. adults do, a new AP-NORC poll shows

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  last year  •  28 comments

By:   HOLLY MEYER (AP News)

Do you believe in angels? About 7 in 10 U.S. adults do, a new AP-NORC poll shows
People are yearning for something greater than themselves — beyond their own understanding

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Compared with the devil, angels carry more credence in America.

Angels even get more credence than, well, hell. More than astrology, reincarnation, and the belief that physical things can have spiritual energies.

In fact, about 7 in 10 U.S. adults say they believe in angels, according to a new poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

"People are yearning for something greater than themselves — beyond their own understanding," said Jack Grogger, a chaplain for the Los Angeles Angels and a longtime Southern California fire captain who has aided many people in their gravest moments.

That search for something bigger, he said, can take on many forms, from following a religion to crafting a self-driven purpose to believing in, of course, angels.

"For a lot of people, angels are a lot safer to worship," said Grogger, who also pastors a nondenominational church in Orange, California, and is a chaplain for the NHL's Anaheim Ducks.

People turn to angels for comfort, he said. They are familiar, regularly showing up in pop culture as well as in the Bible. Comparably, worshipping Jesus is far more involved; when Grogger preaches about angels it is with the context that they are part of God's kingdom.

American's belief in angels (69%) is about on par with belief in heaven and the power of prayer, but bested by belief in God or a higher power (79%). Fewer U.S. adults believe in the devil or Satan (56%), astrology (34%), reincarnation (34%), and that physical things can have spiritual energies, such as plants, rivers or crystals (42%).

The widespread acceptance of angels shown in the AP-NORC poll makes sense to Susan Garrett, an angel expert and New Testament professor at Louisville Presbyterian Theological Seminary in Kentucky. It tracks with historical surveys, she said, adding that the U.S. remains a faith-filled country even as more Americans reject organized religion.

But if the devil is in the details, so are people's understandings of angels.

"They're very malleable," Garrett said of angels. "You can have any one of a number of quite different worldviews in terms of your understanding of how the cosmos is arranged, whether there's spirit beings, whether there's life after death, whether there's a God … and still find a place for angels in that worldview."

Talk of angels, Garrett said, is often also about something else, like the ways God interacts with the world and other hard-to-articulate ideas.

The large number of U.S. adults who say they believe in angels includes 84% of those with a religious affiliation — 94% of evangelical Protestants, 81% of mainline Protestants and 82% of Catholics — and 33% of those without one. And of those angel-believing religiously unaffiliated, that includes 2% of atheists, 25% of agnostics and 50% of those identified as "nothing in particular."

The broad acceptance is what fascinates San Francisco-based witch and author Devin Hunter: Angels show up independently in different religions and traditions, making them part of the fabric that unites humanity.

"We're all getting to the same conclusion," said Hunter, who spent 16 years as a professional medium, and started communicating as a child with what he believed were angels.

Hunter estimates that a belief in angels applies to about half of those practicing modern witchcraft today, and for some who don't believe, their rejection is often rooted in the religious trauma they experienced growing up.

"Angels become a very big deal" for long-time practitioners who've made occultism their primary focus, said Hunter, an angel-loving occultist. "We cannot escape them in any way, shape or form."

Jennifer Goodwin of Oviedo, Florida, also is among the roughly seven in 10 U.S. adults who say they believe in angels. She isn't sure if God exists and rejects the afterlife dichotomy of heaven and hell, but the recent deaths of her parents solidified her views on these celestial beings.

Goodwin believes her parents are still keeping an eye on the family — not in any physical way or as a supernatural apparition, but that they manifest in those moments when she feels a general sense of comfort.

"I think that they are around us, but it's in a way that we can't understand," Goodwin said. "I don't know what else to call it except an angel."

Angels mean different things to different people, and the idea of loved ones becoming heavenly angels after death is neither an unusual belief nor a universally held one.

In his reading of Scripture as an evangelical Protestant, Grogger said he believes angels are something else entirely — they have never been human and are on another level in heaven's hierarchy. "We are higher than angels," he said. "We do not become an angel."

Angels do interact with humans though, said Grogger, but what "that looks like we're not 100% sure." They worship God who created this angelic legion of unknown numbers, he said, adding that evangelicals often attribute the demonic forces in the world to the angels who fell from heaven when the devil rebelled.

The Western ideas about angels can be traced through the Bible — and to the worldviews of its monotheistic authors, Garrett said. Those beliefs have changed and developed for millennia, influenced by cultures, theologians and even the ancient polytheistic beliefs that came before the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, she said.

"There are sort of lines of continuity from the Bible that you can trace all the way up to the New Age movement," said Susan Garrett, who wrote "No Ordinary Angel: Celestial Spirits and Christian Claims about Jesus."

The angels in the Bible do God's bidding, and angelic violence is one part of their job description, said Esther Hamori, author of the upcoming book, "God's Monsters: Vengeful Spirits, Deadly Angels, Hybrid Creatures, and Divine Hitmen of the Bible."

"The angels of the Bible are just as likely to assassinate individuals and slaughter entire populations as they are to offer help and protect and deliver," said Hamori. She doesn't believe in these angels, but studies them as a Hebrew Bible professor at Union Theological Seminary in New York where she teaches a popular "Monster Heaven" class.

"They're just God's obedient soldiers doing the task at hand, and sometimes that task is in human beings' best interests, and sometimes it's not," she said.

The perception that angels act angelic and look like the idyllic, winged figurines atop Christmas trees could be attributed to an early centuries belief that people are assigned one good angel and one bad — or have a good and bad spirit to guide them, Garrett said.

This idea shows up on the shoulders of cartoon characters and is likely what Abraham Lincoln was alluding to in his famous appeal for unity when he referenced "the better angels of our nature" in his first inaugural address, she said.

"It's also tied in with ideas about guardian angels, which again, very ancient views that got developed over the centuries," Garrett said.

For Sheila Avery of Chicago, angels are protectors, capable of keeping someone from harm. Avery, who belongs to a nondenominational church, credits them with those moments like when a person's plans fall through, but ultimately it saves them from being in the thick of an unexpected disaster.

"They turn on the news and a terrible tragedy happened at that particular place," Avery said, suggesting it was an "angel that was probably watching over them."

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The poll of 1,680 adults was conducted May 11-15 using a sample drawn from NORC's probability-based AmeriSpeak Panel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population. The margin of sampling error for all respondents is plus or minus 3.4 percentage points.

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Associated Press religion coverage receives support through the AP's collaboration with The Conversation US, with funding from Lilly Endowment Inc. The AP is solely responsible for this content.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    last year

Even witches believe in angels.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Nerm_L @1    last year

I wonder if animals believe in angels as well, or does it take superior human intelligence to create the fiction.

Dog-with-wings-of-an-Angel.jpg

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.2  Gordy327  replied to  Nerm_L @1    last year

As I always say, belief does not equal fact.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2    last year
As I always say, belief does not equal fact.

Which only proves that saying it doesn't make it a fact.

  

  (Yes, it's all about the money.)

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.2.2  Gordy327  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2.1    last year

It's all about the evidence.  Assertions without it are worthless.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2.3  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2.2    last year
It's all about the evidence.  Assertions without it are worthless.

Are you sure quantum theory supports that assertion?

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.2.4  Gordy327  replied to  Nerm_L @1.2.3    last year

It's not an assertion. It's a simple logical fact.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.2.5  Sparty On  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2    last year

And as I always say, fact does not equal faith

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.2.6  Gordy327  replied to  Sparty On @1.2.5    last year

I would hope not. I'll go with facts every time.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    last year

Although the concept of angels is definitely religious, people can approach the idea without being devout. The article is right, people want to believe that there is a greater meaning to life than just the slog so many experience.  An angel by someone's side can elevate their experience and their purpose. At least that is the hope. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @2    last year

Well, it certainly was good for George Bailey, but I would put my money on the existence of aliens as having a greater possibility.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3  Hallux    last year

Every parent believes their child is an angel, then they turn 3 and 'NO' becomes noun, verb and adjective ... by the time they are 6 their 'angelic' language skills have added an expletive.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4  Hal A. Lujah    last year

How embarrassing.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    last year

This world would be a far duller place if everything was reduced to scientific calculation or analysis.  Doesnt bother me at all if people want to believe there are mystical forces that can aid them. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year

If you believe there’s a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow you will be roundly mocked.  But somehow it’s fine to believe in winged mutants.  A search for either will yield the same result.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.1.1    last year

I'd rather have some people be wrong about angels than reduce life to measuring , counting, and doing science experiments. To each his own I guess. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    last year

If religious belief weren’t the root of so much bigotry I’d tend to agree with you.  Personally I’d rather people search for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, instead of shooting people with rainbow flags.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    last year
I'd rather have some people be wrong about angels than reduce life to measuring , counting, and doing science experiments.

Except too many people build their lives around those beliefs, effecting their lives often badly.  How far away is the belief in angels from the belief in a Persian Prince that will financially reward after you transfer thousands of your dollars to his account?

At least with the Persian prince we can prove there is/was a Persia (now Iran) and there are princes.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.5  Gordy327  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year

I find Science and it's discoveries to be quite exciting. Images captured by Hubble and the JW telescope,  for example, are quite awe inspiring. Certainly better than some emotionally appealing fairy tale. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    last year

Solving questions and exploring the details about actual reality seems much more exciting and fulfilling than what we can imagine. If one wants winged people, there's plenty to be found in various works of fiction. I particularly like the winged Hawkmen front the Flash Gordom movie (a classic).

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.7  evilone  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year
This world would be a far duller place if everything was reduced to scientific calculation or analysis.

I certainly don't see it that way. The natural universe is full of wonder and beauty. No god(s) required.

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.8  evilone  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    last year
I'd rather have some people be wrong about angels than reduce life to measuring , counting, and doing science experiments.

Are you saying all art is dependent on religion? I'd have to disagree. I'd also counter again the beauty of nature. Even the complexity of the natural world is wonderous. People of all walks of life, including scientists, can be amazed at all sorts of discoveries.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    last year

"Nature" is this existence that we experience. Is there something that stands outside of this existence, which would be defined as "super-natural" ?  That is the ultimate question, and is unprovable one way or the other. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1  Gordy327  replied to  JohnRussell @5    last year

There's no evidence for anything supernatural. 

 
 
 
evilone
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5.2  evilone  replied to  JohnRussell @5    last year

In the timestream of our universe, human existence will be nothing more than blink on a tiny speck of dust in a remote arm of a remote galaxy. IF there is a creator, it defies rational logic to create the whole and care about answering the prayers of someone in the stands of a high school football game in bumfuck USA. At some point there will be a last human with a last thought and eventually all that will be left is a universe of swirling inert particles. It's a human conceit to think we are so special as to have guardian angels.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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6  mocowgirl    last year

I followed the link in the seed...

Angels even get more credence than, well, hell. More than astrology, reincarnation , and the belief that physical things can have spiritual energies.

I wonder how many people believe in priests?  It does seem a whole lot safer to believe in angels.

Why is Oklahoma allowing the RCC to open and run charter schools in OK?  Do any of the legislators read the news?

San Francisco Archdiocese declares bankruptcy amid hundreds of lawsuits alleging child sexual abuse | AP News
BY  OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco’s Roman Catholic archdiocese filed for bankruptcy Monday, saying the filing is necessary to manage more than 500 lawsuits alleging child sexual abuse by church officials.

The Chapter 11 protection filing will stop all legal actions against the archdiocese and thus allow it to develop a settlement plan with abuse survivors, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone said in a statement.

“The unfortunate reality is that the Archdiocese has neither the financial means nor the practical ability to litigate all of these abuse claims individually, and therefore, after much consideration, concluded that the bankruptcy process was the best solution for providing fair and equitable compensation to the innocent survivors who have been harmed,” Cordileone said.

The San Francisco Archdiocese is the third Bay Area diocese to file for bankruptcy after facing hundreds of lawsuits brought under a California law approved in 2019 that allowed decades-old claims to be filed by Dec. 31, 2022.   The Roman Catholic Diocese of Oakland filed for bankruptcy   in May. The Diocese of Santa Rosa became the first one in California to file for Chapter 11 protection, in March.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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7  mocowgirl    last year
“People are yearning for something greater than themselves — beyond their own understanding,” said Jack Grogger, a chaplain for the  Los Angeles Angels  and a longtime Southern California fire captain who has aided many people in their gravest moments.

Believing in fairy tales is fine until you take a trip to Guyana with Jim Jones.

Or sell your possessions because a spaceship is going to appear and take the faithful to a proposed celestial, eternal reward for believing in the one and only, truer than true creator .

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8  Sparty On    last year

One things for sure.

The other three are all here …

 
 

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