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House speaker vote live updates: GOP weighs whether Jim Jordan should drop bid after 3rd loss

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  last year  •  23 comments

By:   Kathryn Watson, Stefan Becket (CBSPolitics)

House speaker vote live updates: GOP weighs whether Jim Jordan should drop bid after 3rd loss
Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio lost a third round of voting to elect a new speaker of the House, with three more Republicans voting against him.

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In a bipartisan move, all 210 Democrats voted for Hakeem Jefferies.  Matt Gaetz's association with Democrats has devolved into victimhood and becoming a martyr.  Gaetz and Jefferies are united in claiming they created this mess for the good of the country.

So, what happens now?  Joe Biden pounds sand.  Biden's rousing prime time address to the nation hasn't changed anything.


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


By Kathryn Watson, Stefan Becket

Washington — Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio lost a third round of voting to elect a new speaker of the House as the number of Republicans opposing his bid rose once again, and GOP members soon gathered to consider whether Jordan should drop his candidacy altogether.

The full House convened Friday morning to try to fill the speaker's vacancy, more than two weeks after the historic ouster of Rep. Kevin McCarthy. Jordan won 194 votes in this round, compared to 200 in the first round on Tuesday and 199 in the second on Wednesday. The number of Republicans voting for various non-Jordan protest candidates has grown from 20, to 22, to 25.

The Republican Conference met on Capitol Hill shortly after the vote, with members voting by secret ballot about whether Jordan should drop his bid to be speaker, according to two lawmakers in the room.

The three Republicans who voted against Jordan after supporting him in earlier rounds were Reps. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Thomas Kean Jr. of New Jersey and Marcus Molinaro of New York.

All 210 Democrats present voted for Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries of New York, the third time in a row the party has remained united in support.

Despite the seemingly entrenched opposition from the GOP holdouts, Jordan has vowed to remain in the race and work through the weekend to elect a new speaker. The House went into recess indefinitely after the vote.

House GOP voting on whether Jordan should drop his bid to be speaker


By Scott MacFarlane

There is now a secret ballot underway in the Republican Conference's meeting about whether Jordan should drop his bid to be the next House speaker, according to two lawmakers in the room.

Gaetz, who led McCarthy rebellion, offers "pound of flesh" if holdouts back Jordan


— Eva Pound and Ellis Kim

The Republican lawmakers behind the rebellion against now-former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy offered themselves up for punishment if the 25 GOP holdouts agree to support Jordan for speaker.

Speaking on the steps of the Capitol after the third vote, Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida, who led the charge against McCarthy, said he and other members were prepared to fall on their swords to secure Jordan the gavel.

"The eight of us have said that we are willing to accept censure, sanction, suspension, removal from the Republican Conference. We of course will remain Republicans," Gaetz said. "But if what these holdouts need is a pound of our flesh, we're willing to give it to them in order to see them elect Jim Jordan for speaker."

Gaetz said he and the other seven anti-McCarthy lawmakers sent a letter to their colleagues urging them to support Jordan.

The other seven Republicans who voted to remove McCarthy were Andy Biggs of Arizona, Ken Buck of Colorado, Tim Burchett of Tennessee, Eli Crane of Arizona, Bob Good of Virginia, Nancy Mace of South Carolina and Matt Rosendale of Montana.

The letter Gaetz is circulating bears the names of all eight anti-McCarthy members, but a spokesman for Buck said his name was included erroneously. Buck has voted for Majority Leader Tom Emmer, not Jordan, in all three rounds of voting for speaker.

"Congressman Buck had not agreed to sign this letter and his name has since been removed," Buck's spokesperson said. "His position remains unchanged."

Who are the 25 Republicans who voted against Jordan?


By Kathryn Watson

Jordan received even more Republican votes against him — 25 — than he did in earlier rounds, with three more GOP members joining the ranks of the defectors.

These are the Republicans who voted against Jordan after having previously supported him, and who they supported this time:

  1. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania: Rep. Patrick McHenry
  2. Thomas Kean Jr. of New Jersey: McCarthy
  3. Marcus Molinaro of New York: Former Rep. Lee Zeldin

These are the Republicans who had previously voted against Jordan and did again, with who they voted for in the third round:

  1. Don Bacon of Nebraska: McHenry
  2. Vern Buchanan of Florida: Rep. Byron Donalds
  3. Ken Buck of Colorado: for Rep. Tom Emmer
  4. Lori Chavez-DeRemer of Oregon: McHenry
  5. Anthony D'Esposito of New York: Zeldin
  6. Mario Diaz-Balart of Florida: Majority Leader Steve Scalise
  7. Jake Ellzey of Texas: Rep. Mike Garcia
  8. Drew Ferguson of Georgia: Scalise
  9. Andrew Garbarino of New York: Zeldin
  10. Carlos Gimenez of Florida: McCarthy
  11. Tony Gonzales of Texas: Scalise
  12. Kay Granger of Texas: Scalise
  13. John James of Michigan: Donalds
  14. Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania: Scalise
  15. Jennifer Kiggins of Virginia: McHenry
  16. Nick LaLota of New York: Zeldin
  17. Mike Lawler of New York: McHenry
  18. Mariannette Miller-Meeks: McHenry
  19. John Rutherford of Florida: Scalise
  20. Michael Simpson of Idaho: Scalise
  21. Pete Stauber of Minnesota: Rep. Bruce Westerman
  22. Steve Womack of Arkansas: Scalise

What happens now after Jordan's third loss?


By Stefan Becket

The short answer is nobody really knows.

The somewhat longer answer is that Republicans are meeting on Capitol Hill at 1 p.m. to chart a path forward. Jordan's options remain essentially the same as they were before the vote. With his support eroding, he could drop out of the race and Republicans could go back to square one to find a new nominee. Or he could keep running, and keep trying to convince his detractors that they should support him.

The latter approach has not been successful so far, and there are no signs that his holdouts would be willing to come to his side. They have given no indication that they even have demands that Jordan could meet — in fact, they reportedly told him in a meeting on Thursday that they would never support him, regardless of what he may offer.

Jordan said Friday morning that he aimed to elect a speaker this weekend, and his next move will clarify whether he intends to go through with that plan.

Jordan loses third round, with 25 GOP defections


By Stefan Becket

Jordan fell short yet again when the final tally was read aloud on the floor. He won 194 votes, compared to 210 for Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. Twenty-five Republicans voted for various other candidates, including McCarthy, Majority Leader Steve Scalise and Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry.

Here are the vote totals:

  • Jeffries: 210
  • Jordan: 194
  • Scalise: 8
  • McHenry: 6
  • Former Rep. Lee Zeldin: 4
  • McCarthy: 2
  • Rep. Byron Donalds: 2
  • Rep. Tom Emmer: 1
  • Rep. Mike Garcia: 1
  • Rep. Bruce Westerman: 1


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Nerm_L
Professor Expert
1  seeder  Nerm_L    last year

Apparently the bipartisan thing to do is blame Republicans for what Democrats have done.  

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.1  Hallux  replied to  Nerm_L @1    last year

Oh please, Jordan just lost a closed door secret vote:

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
1.1.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Hallux @1.1    last year
Oh please, Jordan just lost a closed door secret vote:

Oh look!  A liberal paywall.

Must be that bipartisanship that Democrats lie about.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @1.1.1    last year

A 'liberal paywall'?

What the fuck is that?????????????????

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Nerm_L @1.1.1    last year
Oh look!  A liberal paywall.

WSJ has one also as does just about every print media. @!@

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.1.4  Hallux  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    last year
What the fuck is that????

A squirrel, and a large one at that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @1.1.3    last year

WSJ is hardly liberal.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @1    last year

Oh for fuck's sake

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2  JBB    last year

Is it any wonder why the once Grand Old Party of Abraham Lincoln is now known merely as the gop? There is nothing left of it but this mess!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @2    last year

that's the gqp/cult/followersoftheformer'president'/defendersoftheindefensible

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2    last year

No, it is no wonder at all except to those with overactive imaginations.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
2.2.1  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2    last year

It took a certain person's narcissistic and "overactive (d)imagination" to change what it once was in 4 short years.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @2.2.1    last year

ah. but he has been spouting that tired old line for at least 8 years now, so there's that.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2    last year

You seem to take pride in the fact in the history of the Democratic Party going back to Lincoln's time.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.1  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.3    last year

Probably proud that the Democratic Party was the party of slavery and Jim Crow for over 100 years.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
2.3.2  George  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.1    last year

Are you fishing today? it seems you are fishing for morons who are going to claim they all became republicans without any proof to back it up.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.3  Texan1211  replied to  George @2.3.2    last year

Oh, I fully expected the usual lies about all those Southern Democrats magically became Republicans overnight!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
2.3.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.1    last year

Without a doubt.  But there are those that try to play it off as "the parties changed sides" bullshit without looking around.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
2.3.5  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.3    last year
Southern Democrats magically became Republicans overnight!

It took a generation or two ... don't exaggerate.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3  Right Down the Center    last year

"The eight of us have said that we are willing to accept censure, sanction, suspension, removal from the Republican Conference. We of course will remain Republicans," Gaetz said.

They should do that to Gaetz anyway, without giving him a damn thing.  Then they should primary his ass the next time he comes up for re election.

 
 
 
cjcold
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4  cjcold    last year

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.        Albert Einstein

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cjcold @4    last year
insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

"For example, take these often repeated and reprinted Albert Einstein quotes—none of which the great physicist actually said: “Not everything that counts can be counted.” “ The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Apr 7, 2017"

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5  Tacos!    last year

They need to get off Jordan for Speaker and get someone who is actually competent to do the job. These people like Jordan because he’s loud, but that quality is literally all he brings to the table as a member of Congress.

He writes no bills. He sponsors no bills that become law. He solves no problems. He does not negotiate or compromise. He builds no coalitions other than his own. Governing is not his priority. His goal, every day, is to be seen as the loudest, angriest voice on the Right. 

 
 

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