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Kamala Harris's Fox News interview disaster shows how the media set her up to fail

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  2 months ago  •  109 comments

By:   Becket Adams, Opinion Contributor (The Hill)

Kamala Harris's Fox News interview disaster shows how the media set her up to fail
If the Vice President's involvement in a White House-wide conspiracy doesn't clear the bar for "public interest," nothing does.

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Kamala Harris is a principal conspirator in a real political coverup.  And it does not require twisting facts, nuanced editing, or political spin to make that claim stick.  Joe Biden, himself, made the conspiracy quite evident; Bob Woodward wasn't needed.

But the pressing questions swirling around the political coverup aren't about Kamala Harris' complicit involvement.  What the public really needs to know is why the unbiased liberal press has swept the entire conspiracy under the rug.


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10/17/24 -- Vice President Kamala Harris had a bad night on Wednesday.

But more interesting than anything she said to Fox News anchor Bret Baier was what wasn't said — namely, that reporters hadn't bothered until this interview to ask her the most glaringly obvious question of 2024.

This is why she seemed so completely blindsided when Baier asked about the role she played in the sweeping, years-long conspiracy to hide President Biden's declining mental fitness from the public.

The media's failure to press her on this question until now goes beyond mere incuriosity or sloppiness. It's outright malpractice.

Harris fumbled through her roughly 26-minute conversation with Baier before slinking away on complaints that her host had been too aggressive in his questioning.

By any reasonable measure, the interview was a disaster. Don't take my word for it. The Democratic nominee and her team began the week hoping her appearance would help them make inroads with Fox's male and on-the-fence viewers. By the time the cameras had stopped rolling, however, her team had adopted a new line: The interview, they insisted, would go a long way toward rallying left-wingers and Democratic loyalists. Nothing says "that didn't go as planned" quite like a complete narrative switch-up.

To reasonable minds, Harris's gamble backfired. She came across as unprepared, tedious and poorly informed. She drew little contrast between herself and her GOP opponent — who, in fairness, likewise tends to be unprepared, tedious and poorly informed.

Though there were many head-scratchers and uncomfortable fumbles in the Baier interview, the critical moment came when Harris rope-a-doped herself with the claim that former President Donald Trump is "unfit" and too "unstable" to be president. This led to obvious follow-up questions regarding the White House's and her own earlier efforts to dismiss concerns surrounding Biden's mental and physical fitness.

"You told many interviewers that Joe Biden was on his game," Baier said, "that he ran around circles on his staff. When did you first notice that President Biden's mental faculties appeared diminished?"

Harris blanked. Then, after she had had a moment to recollect herself, she simply dodged the question.

"Joe Biden — I have watched from the Oval Office to the Situation Room, and he has the judgment and the experience to do exactly what he has done in making very important decisions on behalf of the American people," Harris said in her trademark word salad format.

Baier pressed, "There were no concerns raised?"

"Bret, Joe Biden is not on the ballot," said Harris, "and Donald Trump is."

Yes, but why isn't Biden on the ballot? This is the question, is it not? As it turns out, Harris knows something about it, even though she went along and played the fool until Biden was forced from his own ticket.

Recall that, following Biden's career-ending debate performance on June 27, Harris was one of the very first administration officials to go on television and reassure voters that all was well with the president.

"The Joe Biden that I worked with every day is someone who, as I have said, has performed in a way that has been about bringing people into the Oval Office, Republicans and Democrats, to compromise in a way that is extraordinary these days," she promised CNN viewers.

In February, she had said of her boss, "We have a very bold and vibrant president in Joe Biden." She also said that same month: "Our president is in good shape, in good health, and is ready to lead in our second term."

Even before then, she alleged, "Age is more than a chronological fact….Not only is [Biden] absolutely authoritative in rooms around the globe, but in the Oval Office."

When special counsel Robert Hur described Biden as a "sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory," Harris rushed to defend Biden's honor, all but accusing Hur of lying.

"So, the way that the president's demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more wrong on the facts and clearly politically motivated, gratuitous," she said.

Yet now, the mere fact of Harris's presidential candidacy explicitly refutes all of those earlier assurances and promises she offered.

A cleverer or better-prepared politician might have expected such an obvious question in response to playing the "fitness" and "instability" cards against Trump. But Harris is not cleverer or better-prepared. She invited the natural response regarding her own attempt to push an unfit presidential candidate on the nation — and she was utterly unprepared for the moment.

For this, she can blame her own all-too-chummy relationship with what should be a much more aggressive and adversarial media.

"You met with [Biden] at least once a week for three-and-a-half years," Baier pressed on Wednesday evening. "You didn't have any concerns?"

"I think the American people have a concern about Donald Trump," the vice president deflected, "which is why the people who know him best, including leaders of our national security community have all spoken out, even people who worked for him in the Oval Office, worked with him in the Situation Room and have said he is unfit and dangerous and should never be President of the United States again, including his former vice president, which is why the job was open for him to choose another running mate. So that is a fact. That is a fact."

This was the moment that stood above all others Wednesday for its implications. It is newsworthy that Harris froze. It is newsworthy that she declined to address his point directly. But the most newsworthy fact is that she had no good answers to the Biden question because, until Wednesday, nobody had ever made her answer it.

It was the only question that needed asking, yet for her, it was uncharted territory.

How is it possible that Baier is one of the only people in this business who has bothered to ask the Democratic nominee about her role in a plot that ended with the current commander in chief being jettisoned from his own re-election campaign, making way for her own unlikely accession?

For an industry addicted to the word "unprecedented," and as we're currently living through times where the word really does apply, it is baffling that journalists aren't more curious about what Harris knew regarding Biden's declining mental acuity when she promised repeatedly that he was fit as a fiddle.

Is the U.S. president quitting in the middle of a race and the nomination of his vice president —who didn't even make it to the Iowa caucuses when she ran for president in 2020 — not "unprecedented" enough for our media?

If the vice president's involvement in a White House-wide conspiracy doesn't clear the bar for "public interest," nothing does.

It was a lousy night for Harris, sure. It was also a bad night for the all-too-friendly political press, whose kid-glove treatment of the Democratic vice president has left her unprepared to answer even the most basic question about policy or the events that secured her own nomination.



Becket Adamsis program director of the National Journalism Center.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    2 months ago

Kamala Harris is a proven liar.  And Joe Biden provided the proof.  That's the political conspiracy we're not supposed to talk about.

So, who are we supposed to believe?  Biden?  Harris?  The press?  Or, should we suspend our belief and trust our own eyes for a change?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Nerm_L @1    2 months ago
Kamala Harris is a proven liar.

Coming from a supporter of the biggest fucking liar on the planet makes that statement beyond hilarious.

That's the political conspiracy we're not supposed to talk about.

What the fuck are you talking about? Let me guess, it's something about the fantasy 'deep state' and other random Qanon bullshit conspiracy theories that have warped many gullible minds.

So, who are we supposed to believe?  Biden?  Harris?  The press? Or, should we suspend our belief and trust our own eyes for a change?

I don't know about you, but I've always only trusted in my own eyes and ears and from what I've seen and heard, Harris did fine in the Fox interview and Trump is a fucking lying piece of shit and a clear and present danger to our nation and constitution and did in fact inspire an attempted insurrection January 6th, 2021. I don't need any politicians or media to tell me what I can see for myself.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.1.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    2 months ago
Coming from a supporter of the biggest fucking liar on the planet makes that statement beyond hilarious.

Kamala Harris lied.  Pointing fingers at Trump, Vlad the Impaler, or Attila the Hun won't change the fact that Kamala Harris is a principal conspirator in a political cover up.  

What the fuck are you talking about? Let me guess, it's something about the fantasy 'deep state' and other random Qanon bullshit conspiracy theories that have warped many gullible minds.

I'm talking about the conspiracy to hide Joe Biden's debilitating impairment from the public.  Trump did not force Kamala Harris to lie to the public.  The question is whether or not entrenched partisan bureaucrats forced Kamala Harris to lie to the public.  Did the party bosses force Harris to lie to the public?  Did the unbiased liberal press force Harris to lie to the publiic?

I don't know about you, but I've always only trusted in my own eyes and ears and from what I've seen and heard, Harris did fine in the Fox interview and Trump is a fucking lying piece of shit and a clear and present danger to our nation and constitution and did in fact inspire an attempted insurrection January 6th, 2021. I don't need any politicians or media to tell me what I can see for myself.

Where was Bob Woodward to inform the public what talking points to check off the list?  Kamala Harris covered up that an impaired President was wasn't really in charge.  The United States has been essentially leaderless.  But Trump ...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    2 months ago
Coming from a supporter of the biggest fucking liar on the planet makes that statement beyond hilarious.

I'm pretty sure Nerm isn't a Biden supporter by any means.  

What the fuck are you talking about? Let me guess, it's something about the fantasy 'deep state' and other random Qanon bullshit conspiracy theories that have warped many gullible minds.

No.  Just the lefts reaction to when Biden and Harris are talked about.  They respond just like Harris did on Wednesday - BUT TRRUUUMMMMPPPPP!!!!!!

I've always only trusted in my own eyes and ears and from what I've seen and heard, Harris did fine in the Fox interview

That's cute.  You probably thought Biden did fine in June too.

did in fact inspire an attempted insurrection January 6th, 2021

Congressional investigation come up empty.  You got something that partisan shitshow missed?  Lets see it.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Nerm_L @1.1.1    2 months ago
I'm talking about the conspiracy to hide Joe Biden's debilitating impairment from the public.

Oh, right, the new rightwing conspiracy du jour. As if defending your boss whose missed a step or two is some massive conspiracy. Yawn.

The question is whether or not entrenched partisan bureaucrats forced Kamala Harris to lie to the public.  Did the party bosses force Harris to lie to the public?  Did the unbiased liberal press force Harris to lie to the publiic?

You don't actually expect me or anyone else to take that seriously, do you? That's a whole lot of fantasy horse shit and the fact that you can't see it is just sad.

Kamala Harris covered up that an impaired President was wasn't really in charge.

Was? Wasn't? What a load of horse shit. Go peddle that crap to Trump supporters, they're clearly more gullible and apparently love eating that shit for breakfast.

I guess I should thank God I got away from my relatives living in Arkansas who are all mindless Trump supporters who also wallow in that lake of bullshit while also denigrating higher education as 'brain washing'. With the sheer amount of bullshit filling their heads, stuffed in every crevice of their tiny cerebellum's, along with every other Trump supporter I've ever talked to, 'brain washing' doesn't sound like a bad idea.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.3    2 months ago
if defending your boss whose missed a step or two

Lol. Priceless stuff. The misstep or two caused, for the first time in American history, a party to revolt and throw the nominee who had just secured nomination from the party's voters off the ballot.   

And now they pretend that's completely normal and not worth talking about.

Its batshit crazy arguments like this that allow Trump to thrive. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.3    2 months ago
Was? Wasn't? What a load of horse shit. Go peddle that crap t

Then why didn't she just tell Baier that she never saw a decline in his mental state.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  bugsy @1.1.5    2 months ago
dn't she just tell Baier that she never saw a decline in his mental state.

Yeah, such an easy question if she's just honest. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.6    2 months ago
she's just honest. 

Therein lies the problem.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    2 months ago

Kamala Harris is a principal conspirator in a real political coverup. 

It's bizarre how they spent years manufacturing a conspiracy about Trump conspiring with Russia, and completely ignored the conspiracy  to hide the disability of the President until it hurt too much politically. 

but I since the MSM participated in the conspiracy, they don't want to talk about Harris's role.  They'll just flush it down the memory hole until somebody cashes in 15 years with a tell all and all the stories come out. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    2 months ago
It's bizarre how they spent years manufacturing a conspiracy about Trump conspiring with Russia

Trump asked Russia to hack Hillarys computer system, after already having been told that Russia hacked the DNC. 

Trumps son and son in law met with a person they thought was representing the Russian government for the purpose of obtaining "dirt" on Hillary Clinton.

Trumps campaign manager was providing polling information to a Russian spy.

Trumps friend Roger Stone was attempting to coordinate the release of the Russian fed stolen emails in conjunction with Julian Assange. 

All that was more than enough to be suspicious of Trump.  There was no hoax. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 months ago

Does anyone else believe the Russia hoax?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    2 months ago

I believe - that there's no hoax.

 
 
 
George
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2.1.3  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    2 months ago

Or Hunters laptop was Russian disinformation?  I'm sure the pee tapes will show up any day now. LOL 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 months ago
mp asked Russia to hack Hillarys computer system, after already having been told that Russia hacked the DNC. 

This is perfect. 

Trump, publicly, joked that Russia should find the emails Hillary had deleted after they were subpoenaed and turn them over to the FBI who was looking for them.

That's it. He didn't "ask" Russia to hack her system, he asked Russia to help the FBI.  That's it. That's the grand collusion conspiracy.  Jokingly asking Russia front of thousands of people to help the FBI. 

 All that was more than enough to be suspicious of Trump

Even before the referral to Mueller,  FBI knew there was no collusion. 

 
 
 
George
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2.1.5  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.4    2 months ago

Even funnier is the computer that the left says trump told Russia to hack was in FBI custody and had been for a year.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3  TᵢG    2 months ago

Just goes to show that no matter what, Trump supporters would call her performance a disaster.   Pathetic.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @3    2 months ago

The real pathetic thing here are all the Harris supporters who gaslight everything Harris.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sparty On @3.1    2 months ago

It's gone from " Biden is fine" to "Harris did great"

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.1    2 months ago

The word you are looking for is shameless.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @3.1    2 months ago

In this election, we have a normal team (Harris-Walz) that is presidential, youthful, energetic, positive and is focused on doing what they believe is best for the nation.   In contrast, we have Trump who is the only PotUS in our history to engage in fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement in an attempt to steal a presidential election.   A traitor who is the only PotUS who violated the peaceful transfer of power and who violated the CotUS in an attempt to disenfranchise voters.

A nutcase who thinks that he can improve the GDP (which is currently great!) by imposing utterly absurd levels of tariffs.    Apparently the guy has no concept that a tariff increases supply chain costs and ultimately triggers inflation.   Or no concept that aggressive abuse of tariff muscle will turn around and bite the USA as we lose suppliers and increase animosity with our trading partners.   

A vindictive prick who believes that it is right to use the force of the military against fellow countryman (like Schiff who he mentioned) who merely oppose him politically.

Trump is the oldest presidential nominee in US history, a curmudgeon, who routinely rambles and talks down the USA claiming we are a third world nation, replete with crime, suffering under a horrible economy, and will be in a WWIII if he is not elected.

We have the choice of a normal presidential team on the D side.   Yes, they will lean left.   That is what the Ds do.   But on the R side we have someone who has proven repeatedly that he does not have the character or rationality to be PotUS.

And Trump supporters cannot honestly deny the reality of what I just wrote.   All they ever do is attack the Ds.   What kind of irrational thought process would bring someone to think that giving a vindictive narcissist like Trump the power of the presidency in 2024 rather than a normal candidate (Harris) is best for our nation?

Character, intelligence, rationality, and intent all matter.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.3    2 months ago
In this election, we have a normal team (Harris-Walz) that is presidential, youthful, energetic, positive and is focused on doing what they believe is best for the nation. 

What “they” believe is best for the country?     Opinions on this vary greatly.    No point debating that fact with the triggered minority.

None at all

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.4    2 months ago
What “they” believe is best for the country?  

Yes, or do you think it is better that a PotUS NOT try to do what he or she believes is best for the nation?

Trump will do what he thinks is best for Trump.   I prefer a PotUS who is trying to do what he or she thinks is best for the nation.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.5    2 months ago
Trump will do what he thinks is best for Trump.

Bullshit, that’s a triggered response.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.6    2 months ago

Trump does what he believes is best for Trump.    It is amazing that some do not see that.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.7    2 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.3    2 months ago
In this election, we have a normal team (Harris-Walz) that is presidential

[ ] we have Trump who is the only PotUS in our history to engage in fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement in an attempt to steal a presidential election.

Fraud - You mean the misdemeanors inflated to "felonies" for charges that have NEVER been brought before in history where nobody was defrauded of anything. Charges that the Appeals court is tearing apart?

Coersion - Elaborate.

Lying - Have you objectively listened to ANY politician? pay close attention to Joe Biden.

Incitement - Unproven accusations. Even the partisan shitshow run by Pelosi couldn't prove it. Coincidently a charge that has not been filed against ANYBODY.

Attempt to steal a presidential election - You mean like several others that contested an election? You do know this goes back to as early as 1800 when Aaron Burr contested a loss to Thomas Jefferson. Or more recently as 2016 when Hillary Clinton contested her 2016 loss? I'm sure you remember that.

A vindictive prick who believes that it is right to use the force of the military against fellow countryman (like Schiff who he mentioned) who merely oppose him politically.

You'll need to provide a link to that comment. But wasn't is Democrats who threatened to use the military against firearms owners? To be precise it was Democrat Eric Swalwell that made that threat.

We have the choice of a normal presidential team on the D side.

We have a VP candidate who sat back as his state burned during riots over a drug overdose and a POTUS candidate who called to set up bail funds for the rioters. And you think THEY have the " character or rationality" to do the job? LMAO.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.10  Sparty On  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.8    2 months ago

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Sparty On
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3.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.10    2 months ago

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TᵢG
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3.1.12  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.9    2 months ago
Fraud - You mean the misdemeanors inflated to "felonies" for charges that have NEVER been brought before in history where nobody was defrauded of anything. Charges that the Appeals court is tearing apart?

His attempt to create alternate electors and attempt to replace these electors via his unconstitutional tabling of certified votes.   Pence did not cooperate and that was the end of his scheme.

Coersion - Elaborate.

His attempt to get Pence to table certified votes on Jan 6th.   His attempt to get SoS Raffensperger to find him 11,000+ votes in GA.   His attempt to get Speaker Rusty Bower in AZ to submit his alternate electors.   His attempt to get the legislatures of swing states to decertify their votes,  etc.

Lying - Have you objectively listened to ANY politician? pay close attention to Joe Biden.

Trump has so far surpassed normal political lying as to create a new category.   How could you possibly not know this?   Trump recently just declared schools are enabling students to have gender change surgery; without parental permission even.

“The transgender thing is incredible. Think of it. Your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation. The school decides what’s going to happen with your child.” -- Trump

Incitement - Unproven accusations. Even the partisan shitshow run by Pelosi couldn't prove it. Coincidently a charge that has not been filed against ANYBODY.

Again, one would have to be blind to not see that Trump spent months inciting his supporters with false claims of election fraud.   And even during the insurrection, when Trump knew that it was taking place, this irresponsible prick sends this tweet:    

Mr. Trump tweeted at 2:24 p.m., after the riot was under way: “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done.” That was a reference to the vice president’s refusal to block the certification of President Biden’s election win in the joint session of Congress that day.

“The tweet looked to me like the opposite of what we really needed at that moment, which was a deescalation,” Matt Pottinger, Mr. Trump’s former deputy national security adviser, told the committee.

Sarah Matthews, a former White House deputy press secretary, argued that the tweet gave Mr. Trump’s supporters permission to continue their assault on the U.S. Capitol. “It was essentially him giving the green light to these people,” she said, adding that Mr. Trump’s supporters “truly latch on to every tweet and every word he says.”

Trump's rhetoric sent the message to his supporters that they have been disenfranchised, that their country has been stolen, that they must fight to get it back.   Anyone who objectively paid attention to what Trump was saying would know this.   

Attempt to steal a presidential election - You mean like several others that contested an election? You do know this goes back to as early as 1800 when Aaron Burr contested a loss to Thomas Jefferson. Or more recently as 2016 when Hillary Clinton contested her 2016 loss? I'm sure you remember that.

No PotUS has ever tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power in our history.   Never.   Trump did everything he could think of to stay in power after losing the election.   To this day, he insists that he won.   To this day, his 'staff' cannot admit that he lost the election.   Have you not seen the many times (starting with the VP debate) that Vance twists himself into a pretzel under direct questioning because he cannot admit that Trump lost the 2020 election?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.12    2 months ago

I see a lot of "attempts" in there.  Nothing backing up anything that was proven or charged.

Incitement - Your response is the cookie cutter response from the partisans.  Merely opinion based in hurt feelings.  Did you forget that Pelosi and her merry band of partisan hacks investigated this and come up empty?  In fact, as more look into that shitshow's actions, more and  more evidence is coming to light that it wasn't all that legal as you all desperately wish it was.

Trump's rhetoric sent the message to his supporters that they have been disenfranchised

Trumps statement was to PEACEFULLY PROTEST.  Why do you all ignore that and run with fiction?  

Trump has so far surpassed normal political lying as to create a new category

Only if you look at it through partisan point of view.

No PotUS has ever tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power in our history.

So we are going to ignore historical facts and run with your tantrum?

Now, with all that said, if you want to discuss the topic of the article, then we'll talk.  Time to leave the rabbit hole and return to the topic.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.14  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.13    2 months ago

As always, your rebuttal comments simply pretend that no argument was given.     In lieu of a real rebuttal, you offer bullshit.

You have nothing.

This is particularly ridiculous:

Trumps statement was to PEACEFULLY PROTEST.  

Pathetic.   You ignore the months of incendiary rhetoric and pretend that the only words Trump ever used were peaceful.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.15  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.14    2 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.14    2 months ago
You have nothing.

You're right.  I have nothing that fits your narrative or what you want to hear.  I'm not interested in playing down to people.  

Now, once again, f you want to discuss the topic of the article, then we'll talk.  Time to leave the rabbit hole and return to the topic.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.17  JBB  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.14    2 months ago

We have come a long way from practically never agreeing. How does it feel up against such rightwing intransigence? 

Remember when Party of Lincoln was known for honesty?

My neither....

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.18  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.16    2 months ago

Do you even believe the outrageous bullshit you insist on posting?

Wildly false declarations we all know are Trump lies are Big Fails!

Keep it up...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.19  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3.1.17    2 months ago

256

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.12    2 months ago

"No PotUS has ever tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power in our history.   Never.   Trump did everything he could think of to stay in power after losing the election.   To this day, he insists that he won.   To this day, his 'staff' cannot admit that he lost the election.   Have you not seen the many times (starting with the VP debate) that Vance twists himself into a pretzel under direct questioning because he cannot admit that Trump lost the 2020 election?"

He's not allowed to say that.  

His handlers have forbidden him from admitting the truth.  

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.21  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.19    2 months ago

Except, Teddy Roosevelt was a liberal Republican. He was a conservationist. Donald Trump is against everything good and decent Teddy Roosevelt ever believed in and stood for...original

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.22  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.20    2 months ago

As always, 100% correct and absolutely true...

original

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.23  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3.1.18    2 months ago
Do you even believe the outrageous bullshit you insist on posting?

Feel free to prove me wrong.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.24  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.19    2 months ago

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.25  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @3.1.17    2 months ago

I am disgusted with the current state of the GOP.   It is so far removed from the GOP of Reagan and Bush as to not be recognized.   The GOP is itself RINO nowadays.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
3.1.26  evilone  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.25    2 months ago

You can blame Gingrich as much as anyone. He opened the door to the Tea Party that was then  overrun by the populists.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.27  TᵢG  replied to  evilone @3.1.26    2 months ago

That does not explain to me how the GOP has turned, effectively, into a Trump cult.   The party has lost its mind (and soul).   The GOP has sold out to a scoundrel who is entirely unfit to hold any political office much less the presidency.   

I first blame Trump for being the demagogue that enabled this to happen and then next I blame GOP voters who promoted this miserable character in the primaries and next the GOP leadership who sat by silently letting this happen and then once momentum hit slavishly jumped on the dishonesty-laden sycophant bus.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  Hallux @3.1.24    2 months ago

Gee, I'm so surprised that was not accurate.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2  Split Personality  replied to  TᵢG @3    2 months ago

I knew deep down that Baier was guilty of sometimes reporting false stories, something about a fabrication of a new FBI investigation he ran with against HRC.  His tone and demeanor was like the spider that had the fly just where he wanted it.  His objectivity has slipped little by little, like the frog slowly being boiled.

It was on full display yesterday. I think Harris held her own.  I wish she would have managed yesterday what she managed to say today, that a future Harris Administration will not be an extension of the Biden Administration. 

We knew that, but now with 20 days to go she finally said it.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
3.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Split Personality @3.2    2 months ago
I wish she would have managed yesterday what she managed to say today, that a future Harris Administration will not be an extension of the Biden Administration. 

That seems strange considering she just said she wouldn't have done anything different than Joe did.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
3.2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Split Personality @3.2    2 months ago
"she managed to say today, that a future Harris Administration will not be an extension of the Biden Administration"

Perhaps not a extension, more like a continuation of it. Her dismal hard core leftist history can't be denied or covered up, and there is zero evidence that she has changed her views.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2.2    2 months ago

One more time Greg, it's a democracy, not a dictatorship.

Everyone in Congress and the WH has to compromise at some point.

Wild liberal ideas won't fly without Republican support.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.3    2 months ago
One more time Greg, it's a democracy, not a dictatorship

Then why did the people have no opportunity to vote for her in a primary?  For all appearances, not allowing the vote is what dictators do.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.5  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.4    2 months ago
Then why did the people have no opportunity to vote for her in a primary? 

There is no law requiring that.

The DNC and RNC are private corporations with their own laws and bylaws which are subject to the FEC.

For all appearances, not allowing the vote is what dictators do.

Nonsense, dictators allow elections all the time, arrest the ballots and announce that they won.

In our country the candidates are picked by the delegates at a convention, period.

Imagine decades ago when Reagan and Ford went to a contested convention to determine the party candidate. Ford barely won on the first ballot. 

In 1984 Gary Hart tried to upset Mondale who was 12 delegates short coming to the convention.  Mondale prevailed.

The 2024 primaries were over.  Trump and Biden were the winners with Harris assumed to be the VP again as is the tradition.  With no chance or time to do over the primaries, it was up to the convention to pick a candidate just like it has since 1789.  Harris received 99% of the participating delegates, the people who actually pick their parties candidate.

The party members ( via state political machinery) pick the delegates.

The delegates pick the candidate at a national convention

The voters vote for either candidate.

The Electoral College determines the next POTUS regardless of who got the most votes.

So how exactly would you be harmed by the process which produced Harris?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
3.3  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @3    2 months ago

But it was a total disaster for her.

Only the most deluded sycophantic supporters of Harris/Walz think likewise. 

To vote for them would be irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @3.3    2 months ago

But it wasn't

That's projection the likes of which has never been seen before

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.3.2  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @3.3    2 months ago

And the Univision Town Hall was a total disaster for Trump, 

unless you are a deluded sycophantic supporter of Trump/Vance.

To vote for Trump is a gamble that he lives long enough with most of his remaining cognitive abilities long enough to keep Vance far, far away from the Oval office.

President Vance, a two year Senator with a history of failed ventures is scarier than any thing

Harris might envision.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.3  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @3.3    2 months ago

Explain, specifically, how that interview was a disaster for Harris.

She went into the Lion's den and dealt with a series of gotcha questions that were designed to put her in awkward positions (e.g. trying to make her trash Biden) rather than prompt her to explain her policies.

She just demonstrated that she can deal with even that level of crap and come right back with sound rebuttals and rejoinders.

So give it a shot.   Let's hear your 'argument' for how this interview was a disaster.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
3.3.4  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.3    2 months ago
"and come right back with sound rebuttals and rejoinders."

So what were some of those sound rebuttals and rejoinders.??

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.5  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @3.3.4    2 months ago

This is the challenge I gave you:

TiG@3.3.3 ☞ Let's hear your 'argument' for how this interview was a disaster.

Instead of making an argument you deflect by asking questions.  

I conclude you have no argument.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
3.3.6  Greg Jones  replied to  Split Personality @3.3.2    2 months ago

Turmp is a known asshole. We know that Harris is a far left radical asshole---what we don't know how much damage she would do to all aspects of representative republic way of life, our economy, and our national security.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.7  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @3.3.6    2 months ago

Explain how you can deem Harris an asshole.     

Explain how you can deem Harris a far left radical.   She is left, certainly, but on what basis is she a far left radical?

Explain how you can be concerned about damage from a normal D presidential candidate yet totally ignore the damage that Trump inflicted as PotUS (pandemic, Big Lie in particular) and that he inflicts even while a nominee???

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.3.8  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.7    2 months ago

The gaslighting contained in that comment is copious and egregious.

Sad.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
3.3.9  Greg Jones  replied to  Sparty On @3.3.8    2 months ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.3.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.7    2 months ago
pandemic

China did that........not Trump. Gonna blame him for the rest of the world getting it?

Big Lie in particular

What damage was incurred from that?

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.3.11  bugsy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.10    2 months ago
Gonna blame him for the rest of the world getting it?

Yes

"What damage was incurred from that?"

Hurt feelings

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.12  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.5    2 months ago

I second that conclusion.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.13  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.7    2 months ago

Projection?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.14  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.10    2 months ago
China did that........not Trump. Gonna blame him for the rest of the world getting it?

Oh come on Jim, you know damn well that I was talking about how Trump handled the pandemic.    Good grief man, stop with the feeble little games.

What damage was incurred from that?

You do not see the problems caused by a PotUS causing the electorate to think our democratic system of elections is corrupt ... to the level where it is possible to rig a presidential election???

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.15  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.10    2 months ago
'China did that'
Prove it

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.3.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.15    2 months ago

Really? You're kidding, right?

256

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.3.17  bugsy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.16    2 months ago
Really? You're kidding, right?

Unfortunately, no. Some refuse to look at facts that have been presented over and over for years.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.3.18  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.14    2 months ago
I was talking about how Trump handled the pandemic.

Oh, that's right. People waited around for him to tell them what to do. Sheep comes to mind

causing the electorate to think our democratic system of elections is corrupt

People are going to think what they are going to think. You would be mistaken if you didn't think millions already believed that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.19  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.16    2 months ago

So, no proof.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.3.20  George  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.14    2 months ago
I was talking about how Trump handled the pandemic.

Exactly which of the recommendations of Fauci and team did trump ignore and not follow?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.21  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.18    2 months ago
People waited around for him to tell them what to do.

Again, you ignore the facts.   As PotUS Trump had the responsibility to properly lead the effort to deal with the pandemic.   Instead, he sought to downplay the pandemic in a futile attempt to stop the stock market from dropping and the economy from slowing down ... all because of what was important to him personally.   He compromised the health of the nation due to his malignant narcissism.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.22  TᵢG  replied to  George @3.3.20    2 months ago

See @3.3.21 for the details on what I meant.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.23  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @3.3.9    2 months ago

That's 'educable' and hilarious and the usual projection.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.3.24  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.18    2 months ago

Other than trying to keep the American peoples spirits up and give them hope, I'm wondering which of Fauci's directions and recommendations he didn't follow? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.3.25  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @3.3.24    2 months ago

Good point. Fauci never stopped and Trump could have shut him up if he actually wanted to.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.3.26  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.25    2 months ago

Mask mandates, ventilators and warp speed for the vaccine, if trump followed the directions of his science and medical advisors, then the question remains what did Biden do differently that made him somehow better? he had vaccines and treatments his entire presidency and still killed more Americans than trump.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.27  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.25    2 months ago

'Shut him up'?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.28  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.25    2 months ago

And you totally deflect from the actual point made.

See @3.3.21.   Go ahead, let's see you deny this.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.3.29  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.28    2 months ago

I don't give a fuck. I try not to dwell on the past in which nothing can be changed.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.3.30  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.29    2 months ago

And again, the same people who attack trump over Covid defend the Biden administrations handling of the pandemic, it is pure partisanship to do so. Biden/Harris killed more people than trump/pence. that is a fact.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.3.31  bugsy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.29    2 months ago
try not to dwell on the past in which nothing can be changed.

But J66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.32  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.29    2 months ago

The person who perpetrated the Big Lie is currently running for PotUS.   Same character (if not worse).   But you do not "give a fuck".   

Excellent example of critical thinking.   256

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.3.33  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.3.31    2 months ago

Do you agree with Trump's opinion of auto workers?:

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
3.3.34  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.3.29    2 months ago
I don't give a fuck. I try not to dwell on the past in which nothing can be changed.

R: "Okay, whoever hits the red button first wins. Okay, one two three, Go!"

D: "Beep!"

R: "Wait, wait, wait, I wasn't ready. Okay, now I'm ready, one two three, Go!"

D: "Beep!"

R: "Wait! Hold on, that wasn't fair, I had a hair in my face. Now I'm ready. Okay, one two three, Go!"

D: "Beep!"

R: "Damn it! Hold on, that doesn't count, you like moved or something and there was a flash of light in my eyes. Let's do it for real this time. Okay, one two three, Go!"

D: "Beep!"

R: "No, no, no, that wasn't fair! I think I was standing with my right arm too far to the side, so we need to do that again, you didn't win, we'll just start all over!"

D: "But you've lost four times in a row, you're only saying it wasn't fair because you keep losing. How many more times do we have to do this before you'll accept that you lost?"

R: "I don't give a fuck. I try not to dwell on the past in which nothing can be changed."

Losers like Trump and his sycophants never like to dwell on their past (though they love digging up the past of their opponents), if they did and actually accepted facts it would completely destroy their narrative. They prefer making shit up and pretending like they always win and are super smart and know everything and if you challenge their narrative they just yell and scream and say it wasn't fair because of: fantasy 'deep state' involvement, or fantasy voter fraud, or fantasy public school indoctrination or fantasy 'gay agenda' or fantasy child sex rings, or fantasy lizard people, or fantasy murder of babies after they're born. And of course, it's very difficult to hold someone to account when they "don't give a fuck" and never "dwell on the past" even though those same folk never forget anything their opponents do wrong, hell, some are still bitching and moaning claiming Harris only got where she did because she dated Willie Brown 30 years ago, but of course, they don't like to 'dwell on the past'...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.3.35  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.3.34    2 months ago
'Losers like Trump and his sycophants never like to dwell on their past (though they love digging up the past of their opponents), if they did and actually accepted facts it would completely destroy their narrative. They prefer making shit up and pretending like they always win and are super smart and know everything and if you challenge their narrative they just yell and scream and say it wasn't fair because of: fantasy 'deep state' involvement, or fantasy voter fraud, or fantasy public school indoctrination or fantasy 'gay agenda' or fantasy child sex rings, or fantasy lizard people, or fantasy murder of babies after they're born. And of course, it's very difficult to hold someone to account when they "don't give a fuck" and never "dwell on the past" even though those same folk never forget anything their opponents do wrong, hell, some are still bitching and moaning claiming Harris only got where she did because she dated Willie Brown 30 years ago, but of course, they don't like to 'dwell on the past'...'

Fucking awesome

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.3.36  Split Personality  replied to  George @3.3.30    2 months ago
Biden/Harris killed more people than trump/pence. that is a fact.

You seem to have an issue with facts.

None of those four people killed anyone with COVID.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.3.37  Split Personality  replied to  Greg Jones @3.3    2 months ago

Funny how Brett Baier came out today and apologized for FOX showing the wrong clip during the Harris

"interview" and possibly expressing exasperation with Harris that rightly should have been

directed at his own producers. 

That is the Brett Baier I remember from the past.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3    2 months ago
Just goes to show that no matter what, Trump supporters would call her performance a disaster.

It was a disaster.  She couldn't answer any questions.  When she tried to talk her way out of giving an answer Baier fought to keep her focused on what was actually asked and Harris verbally and physically looked frustrated to the point she snapped at him.  Many times she did what most Harris supporters here on NT do when things don't look good for her - blamed Trump.  Then, again became frustrated when called out on that stupidity.  

She was asked legitimate questions about her policies and what her plans were.  Nothing too hard, yet, not the softball questions she has been spoon fed by other interviewers.  

In a nutshell, she fell apart.  Denying that she’s a mindless, superficial candidate who instilled no confidence that she has the vision or aptitude to lead the world’s strongest military and biggest economy is really what's pathetic.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.4.1  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4    2 months ago

Outside Fox News' bubble the interview is universally considered a disaster for Trump and for Fox News. Now Vice President Kamala Harris surges as Trump wilts like last years Christmas Poinsettia!

Struck dumb Trump just dances like Grandpa at a family wedding. 

original

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3.4.1    2 months ago

So you have nothing of value to add.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.4.3  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4    2 months ago
In a nutshell, she fell apart. 

This is pure fantasy.

 
 
 
Thomas
PhD Guide
3.4.4  Thomas  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.4    2 months ago

How's the air in your fantasy bubble?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.4.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  TᵢG @3.4.3    2 months ago

Thinking she did fine is fantasy.  She did more circular talking that the Taliban and when she wasn't doing that she gave the normal leftist responses - BUT TRRUUUMMMMPPPPP!!!!!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.4.6  Tessylo  replied to  Thomas @3.4.4    2 months ago

Pretty stale I'm thinking....

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
4  Right Down the Center    2 months ago

"You told many interviewers that Joe Biden was on his game," Baier said, "that he ran around circles on his staff. When did you first notice that President Biden's mental faculties appeared diminished?"

"Joe Biden — I have watched from the Oval Office to the Situation Room, and he has the judgment and the experience to do exactly what he has done in making very important decisions on behalf of the American people," Harris said in her trademark word salad format.

Baier pressed, "There were no concerns raised?"

"Bret, Joe Biden is not on the ballot," said Harris, "and Donald Trump is."

Her lying to the American people in order to try to have a puppet regime in charge of the country could easily be construed as being a traitor to her oath.  She is unfit to hold office.

Yet the media and the Trump haters give her a free pass.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    2 months ago
Her lying to the American people in order to try to have a puppet regime in charge of the country could easily be construed as being a traitor to her oath.  She is unfit to hold office.

First it is stupid to pretend that Biden is not performing the functions of PotUS.    So you start with hyperbole and borderline conspiracy theory.   Second, Biden would have to be in serious shape for Harris to act against him.   Biden just gave a speech in Pennsylvania.   If you saw that speech and thought that one could invoke the 25th amendment on this guy then your perception of reality is horribly skewed.

But you claim that Harris is unfit for office because she did not seek to remove Biden from office when he clearly was still capable of performing the duties of office.

On the other hand, Trump has illustrated in grand terms why he is unfit for office and continues to do so with insane notions like using the military against political opponents.   Yet instead of arguing that Trump is unfit you pen a comment that tries (pathetically) to argue that it is Harris who is unfit.

Trump support ≠ rationality.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
4.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @4.1    2 months ago

So why does half, or probably more, of the electorate support him? Are they stupid or misinformed? Or are you smarter than anyone else?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.1    2 months ago
So why does half, or probably more, of the electorate support him?

You should explain that.   Let us know why you would choose a vindictive, narcissist traitor who is clearly losing his mind over a normal, intelligent, youthful, energetic, presidential candidate.

I think the answer is that she is a D and that you would rather put a traitor in office rather than allow another D PotUS.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
4.1.3  George  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.2    2 months ago
intelligent

There is no evidence to support this assertion.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
4.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.1    2 months ago
So why does half, or probably more, of the electorate support him? Are they stupid or misinformed? Or are you smarter than anyone else?

First, it's not "half" or even close to half, millions more Americans support Harris than Trump and Trump has never won the popular vote and never will, he's a toxic piece of shit and the majority of Americans know it.

Second, yes, his supporters are either stupid or misinformed or some combination of the two. Many are also very likely bitter about seeing their preferred white conservative Christian society being eroded by diversity and inclusion and have jumped on the Trump bandwagon because they know he's a huge racist who supports their treasonous confederate loving white Christian nationalist fantasy.

As for being smarter than anyone else, no, it doesn't take 140 IQ to see through Trumps bullshit. Just about anyone can do it if they embrace facts, rationality and reason over racism, rhetoric and bullshit.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.5  JBB  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.4    2 months ago

True, Donald Trump has never won the popular vote in national election or even ever polled above fifty percent among all voters...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  George @4.1.3    2 months ago

Open your eyes just a crack.   The evidence is replete and available daily.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.4    2 months ago
"First, it's not "half" or even close to half, millions more Americans support Harris than Trump and Trump has never won the popular vote and never will, he's a toxic piece of shit and the majority of Americans know it." Thank you.

 
 
 
Thomas
PhD Guide
4.1.8  Thomas  replied to  George @4.1.3    2 months ago
There is no evidence to support this assertion.

IS there life on your planet?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Thomas @4.1.8    2 months ago

Intelligent life?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5  JBB    2 months ago

MAGA be like, "I know Darth Vader belongs to the dark side and that he blew up a planet, but I just don’t know enough about Princess Leia"...

 
 

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