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Tesla’s No.1 rival is practically taunting Elon Musk now

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  4 days ago  •  9 comments

By:   Allison Morrow (CNN)

Tesla’s No.1 rival is practically taunting Elon Musk now
There are three letters keeping Tesla bulls up at night: BYD.

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It is amazing that US manufacturers depend upon the government intervention of trade restrictions to maintain market share on their own playing field.  Maybe that's because the US automakers are focused on selling gimmicks instead of reliable, affordable vehicles.  

China has grown it's economy with manufacturing and heavy industry.  Don't say it can't be done.  And China isn't the only country that relies on that industrial model.  South Korea, the Philippines, Taiwan, and even Vietnam have followed the industrial model. 

So, what happened to the United States? 


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New York (CNN)  — There are three letters keeping Tesla bulls up at night: BYD.

That’s the carmaker eating everyone’s lunch in China, the world’s biggest auto market, and rapidly gaining market share around the globe (except in the United States, of course, because of longstanding trade restrictions on Chinese imports).

On Monday, BYD reported $107 billion in revenue for 2024 — crossing the $100 billion level for the first time and besting Tesla’s annual revenue by about $10 billion. That milestone came a week after BYD unveiled a charging system that it says will give its latest EV model 250 miles of range after plugging in for just five minutes.

The Chinese company’s week of blowout news should amount to a rather satisfying dunk on Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who once scoffed at the idea of BYD as a competitor and who is currently a rather unpopular member of the Trump administration. (Trust us, we did polling!)

BYD’s moment in the sun comes just as Tesla is sliding into a crisis.

Tesla investors have been offloading their stock for nine straight weeks, largely because of good old-fashioned business reasons, including:

  • Global sales fell last year for the first time ever, and this year isn’t looking much better.
  • Competitors are eating into its market share, especially in China.
  • Tesla’s core products haven’t had significant updates in years, and a long-promised low-cost model hasn’t yet materialized.
  • While Tesla has been an EV pioneer, it is lagging behind Google’s Waymo in the race toward autonomous driving.

But those are hardly the only reasons.

Musk’s extracurricular gig as President Donald Trump’s hatchet man has turned the Tesla brand — once a favorite among upwardly mobile lefties — into a symbol of America’s right wing. Used Tesla prices are tanking even as interest in used EVs rises.

The White House has responded with a series of stunts — a live presidential endorsement on the South Lawn, the commerce secretary shilling for Tesla stock on Fox News, the FBI threatening vandals with terrorism charges — that all smack of desperation. (They are also so out of step with legal convention, ethics experts are struggling to wrap their heads around them.)

Tesla shares began rebounding Friday after Musk called an all-hands meeting Thursday night in which he urged staff to hold onto their stock. Retail investors have piled in, helping shares gain 5% on Friday and 12% on Monday.

But the stock remains more than 40% off its December record high, and several analysts have reined in their expectations for the year.

BYD isn’t the only Chinese competitor sapping Tesla’s market share. In Europe, Tesla sales fell 44% in February while Chinese brands broadly went up 82%, according to a report from JATO, which analyzes auto market data.

Part of that decline had to do with a gap in Tesla’s overhaul of its bestselling Model Y, JATO analyst Felipe Munoz said. But Musk’s support for a far-right German party accused of sympathizing with Nazis likely didn’t help — sales in Germany, Europe’s biggest car market, sank 75% last month.

Perhaps the biggest threat BYD poses to Tesla: It’s managed to make a variety of sleek, tech-enabled cars — both EVs and plug-in hybrids — at a fraction of the cost. The entry-level BYD EV now starts at under $10,000 in China. Tesla’s Model 3, its cheapest model, costs three times more at $32,000.

On Monday, BYD launched a new electric sedan with roughly the same specs as a Tesla Model 3 for half the price, Elektrek reported. Then new Qin L EV comes with BYD’s smart driving tech and gets over 330 miles of driving range, starting at $16,500.

Tesla is reportedly working on a smaller, cheaper version of its Model Y in an effort to regain some of the ground it has lost in China. But mass production isn’t expected to begin until 2026, according to unnamed sources cited by Reuters.

Bottom line: Musk badly underestimated BYD, which stands for “Build Your Dreams,” back in 2011, when he dismissed a Bloomberg interviewer’s question about the Chinese carmaker posing a threat to Tesla. “Have you seen their car?” he asked rhetorically.

But more than a decade later, BYD has surpassed Tesla in annual revenue and upended the global market for EVs. Tesla remains the best-selling EV maker in the US, thanks to the nation’s tariffs aimed at protecting US manufacturing. Absent those trade barriers, BYD could fast become Musk’s nightmare.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    4 days ago

Someone who would sacrifice revenue generating payload to avoid replacing fuel tanks shouldn't be the role model for business acumen.  The United States has been in decline since the Federal government abandoned industrial policy in the 1990s.  And it's very doubtful that H-1B immigrant workers will rebuild US competitiveness.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2  Split Personality    4 days ago

Slow and steady wins the race. Aesop.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3  Buzz of the Orient    3 days ago

About 15 years ago by chance I discovered that another NT member, USA1, was teaching a course at a university in Kaifeng, which was about a half hour away from where I was teaching at a high school in a suburb of Zhengzhou.  He and I, both married to Chinese women, got to meet and we all became good friends.  He drove a BYD, and he told me then it was the best car made in China.  We travelled to events together in it, including the Annual Peony Festival in Luoyang, about an hour's drive from where we were.  Here are the four of us at the Peony Festival, me, my wife Fen, USA1 (Ed) and his wife Ju-An. 

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I recall it was a very solid car.  However, about a year ago my wife and I were given a ride home from a party by Fen's friend's son in a BYD EV and it was the quietest, smoothest, car ride I have ever had in my life.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1  Hallux  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3    2 days ago

It's time for Canada to loudly whisper to China about building the BYD here. I'm sure Mexico would love to take part in any talks. 

Now 'aboot' that paunch ... eh?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hallux @3.1    2 days ago

IMO it would be a smart move on the part of Canada at this time to do an awful lot more trade with China back and forth to replace its trade with the USA, but it's doing the reverse, and causing China to retaliate in ways that are going to have a negative effect on Canadians at a time when that's just making things worse for Canadians. 

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
3.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.1    2 days ago

We shall hear what Carney has to say at 2p.m.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
3.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hallux @3.1.2    2 days ago

I'm going to soon post a Global News article about the intent of Carney and the other 3  major leaders. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3    2 days ago

There was another member over there. That is amazing.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    yesterday

Besides USA1 other NT members stayed in China for a while, and as he and I did married Chinese women.  Sichuan was one and the name excapes me for the other one I corresponded with.  Other NT members have spent enough time in China to raelize it isn't the hellhole that some NT members who have never stepped a foot in China who often parrot the ugly anti-China propaganda that some American polititians and media like to use in order to sell themselves.  Tim Walz is an example of an American politition who, like me, taught English in China, and I never saw a bad word he said about China.  

 
 

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