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Cuba to Host Secret Chinese Spy Base Focusing on U.S. - WSJ

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  last year  •  36 comments

By:   Warren P. Strobel and Gordon Lubold (WSJ)

Cuba to Host Secret Chinese Spy Base Focusing on U.S. - WSJ
Beijing agrees to pay Havana several billion dollars for eavesdropping facility

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WASHINGTON—China and Cuba have reached a secret agreement for China to establish an electronic eavesdropping facility on the island, in a brash new   geopolitical challenge   by Beijing to the U.S., according to U.S. officials familiar with highly classified intelligence.


An   eavesdropping facility in Cuba , roughly 100 miles from Florida, would allow Chinese intelligence services to scoop up electronic communications throughout the southeastern U.S., where many military bases are located, and monitor U.S. ship traffic.


Officials familiar with the matter said that China has agreed to pay cash-strapped Cuba several billion dollars to allow it to build the eavesdropping station and that the two countries had reached an agreement in principle. 




The revelation about the planned site has sparked alarm within the Biden administration because of Cuba’s proximity to the U.S. mainland. Washington regards Beijing as its most significant economic and   military rival . A Chinese base with advanced military and intelligence capabilities in the U.S.’s backyard could be an unprecedented new threat. 

“While I cannot speak to this specific report, we are well aware of—and have spoken many times to—the People’s Republic of China’s efforts to invest in infrastructure around the world that may have military purposes, including in this hemisphere,”   John Kirby, spokesman for the National Security Council, said. “We monitor it closely, take steps to counter it, and remain confident that we are able to meet all our security commitments at home, in the region, and around the world.”

U.S. officials described the intelligence on the planned Cuba site, apparently gathered in recent weeks, as convincing. They said the base would enable China to conduct signals intelligence, known in the espionage world as sigint, which could include the monitoring of a range of communications, including emails, phone calls and satellite transmissions.

The Chinese Embassy in Washington had no comment. Cuba’s Embassy didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Officials declined to provide more details about the proposed location of the listening station or whether construction had begun. It couldn’t be determined what, if anything, the Biden administration could do to stop completion of the facility.

The revelation about the agreement drew Republican criticism of the administration’s stance on China and Cuba.

“Joe Biden needs to wake up to the real Chinese threats on our doorstep,” Nikki Haley, a former South Carolina governor and United Nations ambassador and current Republican presidential candidate, wrote on Twitter.

“The threat to America from Cuba isn’t just real, it is far worse than this,” tweeted Sen.   Marco Rubio   (R., Fla.).

The U.S. has intervened before to stop foreign powers from extending their influence in the Western Hemisphere, most notably during the   1962 Cuban Missile Crisis . The U.S. and the Soviet Union came to the brink of nuclear war after the Soviets deployed nuclear-capable missiles to Cuba, prompting a U.S. Navy quarantine of the island. 

The Soviets backed down and removed the missiles. A few months later, the U.S. quietly removed intermediate-range ballistic missiles from Turkey that the Soviets had complained about.

The intelligence on the new base comes in the midst of the Biden administration’s efforts to improve U.S.-China relations after months of acrimony that followed a   Chinese spy balloon’s flight   over the U.S. earlier this year.

China in 2017 marked the opening of a military base in Djibouti, in eastern Africa.   PHOTO:  AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES

Last month   President Biden   sent Central Intelligence Agency Director   William Burns   on a   secret trip to Beijing , and national security adviser   Jake Sullivan   held talks with a top Chinese official in Vienna. It couldn’t be determined whether the planned Chinese eavesdropping station figured in those exchanges.

Secretary of State   Antony Blinken   is expected   to travel to Beijing   later this month and possibly meet with Chinese leader   Xi Jinping. Biden said in May that he believed there would be a thaw in U.S.-China relations despite recent public tensions. 

Beijing is likely to argue that the base in Cuba is justified because of U.S. military and intelligence activities close to China, analysts said. U.S. military aircraft fly over the South China Sea, engaging in electronic surveillance. The U.S. sells arms to Taiwan, which China considers a renegade province, deploys a   small number of troops   there to train its military, and sails Navy ships through the Taiwan Strait. 


An eavesdropping facility in Cuba would make clear “China is prepared to do the same in America’s backyard,” said   Craig Singleton, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a national-security think tank in Washington.

“Establishing this facility signals a new, escalatory phase in China’s broader defense strategy. It’s a bit of a game changer,” Singleton said. “The selection of Cuba is also intentionally provocative.”

The U.S. also maintains a military base in Cuba at Guantanamo Bay, where a prison was set up after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to house alleged foreign terrorists captured overseas. The U.S. has used the base as a signals intelligence station in the past.

China’s only declared foreign military base is in Djibouti, in the Horn of Africa. It has embarked on a global port-development campaign in places including Cambodia and the United Arab Emirates. U.S. officials say that effort is aimed at creating a network of military ports and intelligence bases to project Chinese power around the globe.

Security relations between Washington and Beijing have grown tense in recent weeks after close encounters between U.S. and Chinese ships in the Taiwan Strait and   between the two nations’ military aircraft   over the South China Sea. 

Defense Secretary   Lloyd Austin   and China’s defense minister, Gen.   Li Shangfu, traded barbs at a   conference in Singapore   last weekend, though the two shook hands in a widely publicized gesture. Austin complained about Beijing’s lack of communication on military matters and Li’s refusal to meet with him. China has said it won’t agree to such a meeting until Washington lifts sanctions it placed on Li in 2018.

The Biden administration has attempted to pull closer to Havana, reversing some Trump-era policies by loosening restrictions on travel to and from Cuba and   re-establishing a family-reunification program . The administration has also expanded consular services to allow more Cubans to visit the U.S. and has restored some diplomatic personnel who were removed after a series of mysterious health incidents affecting   U.S. personnel in Havana .

Cuba has been a thorn in the side of the U.S. since it became a Communist dictatorship after the 1959 revolution. The late dictator   Fidel Castro, at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis, sent a cable to his Soviet counterpart, Nikita Khrushchev, asking him to consider a nuclear strike on the U.S.

In the decades that followed, the island fomented destabilizing and violent revolutionary movements across Latin America in an attempt to spread Communism and anti-U.S. ideology. Its behavior moderated after the end of the Cold War, but it remains the lone Communist dictatorship in the Americas.

For the Cuban regime, the agreement with China would bring badly needed cash but risks angering the U.S. and provoking further isolation diplomatically and economically. Cuba relied on generous subsidies from the Soviet Union until the U.S.S.R. collapsed, plunging the island into economic depression. In the 2000s, it began to rely on Venezuela for aid until that country’s economic implosion in recent years. Analysts say Cuba’s military-backed regime might now be hoping China can be a new lifeline.

Beijing has been building closer diplomatic and economic ties to the island. Cuban President   Miguel Diaz-Canel   met with Xi in Beijing in November.

During the Cold War, the Soviet Union operated its largest overseas signals intelligence site at Lourdes, just outside Havana. The site, which closed down after 2001, reportedly hosted hundreds of Soviet, Cuban and other Eastern Bloc intelligence officers. 

There were reports in 2014 that Russia would reopen the Lourdes station, but that doesn’t appear to have happened, and its current status couldn’t be determined.



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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    last year

Just what the holy hell is A. Blinken doing? 

Trump is off topic. So is anything associated with Trump, his supporters, campaign and anything else I deem as OT.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    last year

If China is paying Cuba billions to build a facility to spy on the US, then how about we build a facility on Gitmo to spy on the Chinese spying on the US from Cuba. Sounds fair to me.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1    last year

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So, what else is new?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    last year
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    Web Jun 9, 2023  · The  Pentagon  and the White House on Thursday  denied  reports that  China  is planning to build a listening  post  in  Cuba  that would allow the communist power to …

So much for yet ANOTHER example of the American intention of demonizing and containing China.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2    last year

Or China could in fact be planning to do this, but Biden and his minions are afraid of the American public knowing this and further antagonizing the CCP. I don't trust what I hear coming out of Biden's mouth or the adminstration in general as it is.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.1    last year

Or the moon could really be made of green cheese, eh Ed? 

 
 
 
Hallux
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2  Hallux    last year

I don't see how this is a big deal considering what 5 Eyes and a host of other nations are doing to China and doing it 'OT'. Keep your knickers on.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hallux @2    last year
I don't see how this is a big deal considering what 5 Eyes and a host of other nations are doing to China

What are they doing?  

Xi’s grip on power, there modern and vast electronic surveillance systems, the crackdown in Hong Kong, and the 3 year Covid lockdown have made intelligence gathering exceedingly difficult.

Also there was a huge setback following an unmasking and execution of a network of intelligence informants inside China.

Previously, power in China’s collective leadership was more  diffused among factions and individuals, providing more offered possible intelligence targets - no more.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1    last year
What are they doing?

Listening.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hallux @2.1.1    last year

Oh my!

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.2    last year

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Buzz of the Orient
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2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hallux @2    last year

What with America's continuous provoking China by organizing groups to oppose and/or contain it (5 Eyes, Quad, Aukus, etc), ignoring its "adherence" to the joint communiques concerning the One China Principle by arming and visiting Taiwan, and close encountering China in the Taiwan Straits and South China Sea, I'm quite surprised China has had the restraint from placing an aircraft carrier or nuclear sub in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3  Snuffy    last year

Their balloons have all gone kaput so they need something to use so they can spy on us...  

Considering the level of technology we have, isn't establishing a listening post something like 20th Century tech?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    last year

Another win for Biden!

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    last year

China is bailing out Cuba in return with billions.  Was Biden supposed to be the one to fulfill Cuba’s need for financial help?  I can just imagine what your comments would be if that happened.  You can help yourself but to blindly attack Biden 24/7.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.1    last year

According to the poster of this seed Trump is off topic, but then by omission it's open season on Biden.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.2    last year

Doesn't matter, it will be hard for the Republicans' hero to be heard from a prison cell anyways. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.4    last year

Anyone who pushes himself into the limelight as much as Trump does, and is cheered by such a large percentage of Americans, is going to obtain the attention he craves.  Past presidents refrained from such behaviour.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.6    last year

I did not make Trump a topic as to this seed, and confirmed it, by merely pointing out the unfairness of making Biden one.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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5  Nerm_L    last year

Better start digging holes in the backyard again.  The Biden administration has successfully revived Cold War geopolitics but it's less likely the United States can win this one.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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5.1  Snuffy  replied to  Nerm_L @5    last year
Better start digging holes in the backyard again. 

I'm gonna have to.  I'm too old and fat to fit under my school desk anymore....

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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5.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Snuffy @5.1    last year
I'm gonna have to.  I'm too old and fat to fit under my school desk anymore....

Never too old to moon the Russkies.  Although nowadays you'll end up on Google Earth.  Smile for the birdie!

Biden is digging so many holes, we're gonna end up in China anyway.  jrSmiley_76_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6  Buzz of the Orient    last year

OMG!!! China has an offshore military base, says the nation with about 750 military bases around the world. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7  Buzz of the Orient    last year

What I find interesting about the seed is that it is total conjecture, conclusions without one iota of proof - a typical media method.  Of course it serves its purpose - as all can see from the comments here. 

 
 

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