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Reasons for Voting for Joe Biden or Donald Trump

  
By:  Texan1211  •  Politics  •  3 weeks ago  •  83 comments

Reasons for Voting for Joe Biden or Donald Trump

Here is a golden opportunity to express, in your very own words, what it is about Joe Biden or Donald Trump that inspires you to vote for him.

Tell us all the REASON you are going to vote the way you are.

Read the Red Box rules before commenting.

Infractions will be deleted on sight.

Red Box Rules

No comparisons between Biden and Trump, period.

That isn't the topic.

No "My guy isn't as bad as the other guy" or any cutesy wordplay trying to get around the rules.


 
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Texan1211
Professor Principal
1  author  Texan1211    3 weeks ago

Will there be any takers?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1    3 weeks ago

I can't provide any reasons cause I wouldn't vote for either of them.  The fact that I can't vote in an American election is a primary reason why I wouldn't.  I do have reasons why I wouldn't, but then I'd be off topic. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    3 weeks ago

I understand.

This is to elicit legitimate reasons for voting FOR one of them. I don't consider "Not as bad as so-and-so" as legitimate and was hoping for something JUST a little more in depth and convincing.

I don't know if there simply aren't real reasons or people are simply ashamed of their choice.

Thanks for your comment, though.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.2  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    3 weeks ago

Yes, because Tex's ridiculous Red Box Rules make any discussion at all of his own topic on his own article (?) an impossibility...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.3  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.2    3 weeks ago
Yes, because Tex's ridiculous Red Box Rules make any discussion at all of his own topic on his own article (?) an impossibility...

That is an utterly false claim.

You are free--in fact--ENCOURAGED, to list legitimate reasons to vote for Biden or Trump but have thus far declined to provide even ONE reason.

Do you have any?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

Always happy to support a friend.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

Actually, I was quite amused by his Red Box Rules.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.6  author  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.5    3 weeks ago
Actually, I was quite amused by his Red Box Rules.

I have asked the question multiple times on other articles and have never once received an answer that didn't involve comparing the two, which simply leads to a bunch of b.s. that I am not interested in seeing again.

Kind of looks like no one can think of a single reason to vote for one based solely on the candidate's own merits. How sad is that?

Just trying something different tonight.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.6    3 weeks ago

Don't feel bad if there's not much action on your topic, although American politics seems to me to be the number one topic on this site.  Hey, I post articles about movies, creative arts, cars, boats, foreign lands and cultures, English literature and I don't get a lot of response but I don't care.  After all, I learned many years ago that variety was the spice of life. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

It's not ridiculous or impossible.  Just difficult.  And The RBR's eliminate the typical "but (insert name here)..." nonsense arguments.  It forces people to THINK.  From there its a matter of articulating your reasoning.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.9  author  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

Well, I won't feel bad about the lack of comnents, I'll feel bad that folks can't come up with reasoned, legitimate reasons to vote for one of the two.

It speaks volumes about voters and is one of the reasons why we have the nominees we do.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.10  author  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.8    3 weeks ago
It forces people to THINK. 

Perhaps that explains the lack of comments despite the large share of NTers who will vote for one or the other.

It doesn't take any thought, really, to vote for the lesser of two evils.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

Which rule are you having a problem with?  Why not try to tell us why you are voting for Biden without any weak memes?

I am sure they won't be deleted.

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    3 weeks ago
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Texan1211
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2.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2    3 weeks ago

Gee, thanks for adequately cutting and pasting what I wrote. Congrats on your skills.

Any chance you have something topical to add?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3  Ronin2    3 weeks ago

Ok,

I'll go.

1) Trump will shut down the border and stem the flow of illegals. He will deport as many of the ones already here that he can. No, he will never get all of them; but at least he will try,

2) Trump will end Brandon's toxic EO/EA's against drilling for oil on federal lands. Sure we are the #1 oil producer in the world- but that is because of fracking. We are still not producing nearly enough to supply ourselves and our allies. Enriching our enemies like Iran and Russia by importing oil from them is costing us far more money in the long run. Just look at the 90 plus billion foreign aid package that passed. Ukraine (Russia); Israel (Iran funded military groups); and Taiwan (China).. This will be a never ending sink hole for tax payer money so long as we continue to enrich out enemies so they can fund their war machines.

3) Trump will at least try to end the war in Ukraine and stop the draining of US taxpayer money and military resources. If nothing else he will damn well make sure Europeans honor the commitments they have already made to Ukraine. No more US doing all the heavy lifting while European countries watch. Looking at you Germany and France especially. Also, Trump damn well won't let the US get dragged into a war against Russia- unless Russia attacks a NATO country. Something they aren't nearly strong enough to do right now. He will not allow Ukraine and Europe to drag the US into WWIII.

4) I trust Trump to extend the tax cuts that are set to expire. Brandon and the Democrats have stated repeatedly they are more than willing to let them expire. Democrats are still lying that these tax cuts only help the rich. If they are allowed to expire they will affect those living literally pay check to pay check right now. The economy will collapse under the lack of financial resources and high prices caused by Brandon's inflation.

5) I trust Trump to be and protect Trump. The FBI, CIA, IRS, and DOJ need to purged of Democrat control operatives. It will be a nearly impossible task; but I expect Trump to be the bill in the China shop that is needed. I also expect his second term in office will be just as big of a Democrat shit show in Congress with their federal government shills as the first go around.

6) The world will know where the US stands with Trump. I will not agree with all of his foreign policies but I know for sure that the US will no longer coddle Iran, China, or Hamas/Hezbollah. Sure the Palestinians will suffer under Trump; but anyone thinking Brandon is doing them any favors is sorely mistaken. Prolonging the inevitable is all he is doing. Causing more Palestinian deaths. If the world really wanted to help the Palestinians it would have done so long, long, ago. Now it is up to families and friends to work to get the ones they care about still stuck in the West Bank, Gaza, and Israel out. Not all of them will make it; but that is the real world.

That is it. So let the screaming about how neither is fit for office begin. Guess what, there is no perfect candidate this election. They all suck. Just pick the one that sucks the least in your opinion and vote tor them. But just know that if you go third party be prepared to live with either Trump or Brandon in the Oval Office- maybe the one you prefer least between the two.

"Four more years. Pause"

Yes, that is exactly what we need as a country./S

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  Ronin2 @3    3 weeks ago

Thank you.

You are the only one to actually post reasons, I can respect that.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.2  Snuffy  replied to  Ronin2 @3    3 weeks ago

About the only one I disagree with up there is #4. Trump by himself cannot extend those tax cuts, it must come from Congress. And unless the Republicans hold the House and win 61 seats in the Senate they won't be able to extend them as Democrats from Trump's first term showed us that they are very unwilling to give Trump anything that looks like a political win. 

 
 
 
JBB
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4  JBB    3 weeks ago

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Right Down the Center
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4.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @4    3 weeks ago

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JBB
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5  JBB    3 weeks ago

original

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @5    3 weeks ago

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JBB
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6  JBB    3 weeks ago

original

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @6    3 weeks ago

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Texan1211
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6.1.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    3 weeks ago

Please, no comparisons.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6    3 weeks ago

Gee, doesn't seem like it is 
"IMPOSSIBLE" to provide reasons AND stick to the red box rules after all, does it, despite earlier false claims.

I like that you had to actually look it up though, and were unable to come up with any all by yourself.

Thanks for commenting and sticking to the rules, though!

Now you have made me curious, though.

My rules didn't change, so what changed in the last nine hours that now allows you to comment on topic when you claimed it was impossible back then?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @6    3 weeks ago

3 posts to show you can't do as requested.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @6    3 weeks ago

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JBB
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7  JBB    3 weeks ago

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @7    3 weeks ago

Signed the Inflation Reduction Act into law.

Any idea when it MIGHT actually start to do some of the things it was supposed to do??

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @7    3 weeks ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
8  JBB    3 weeks ago

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @8    3 weeks ago

These all seem like legitimate reason to not vote for Biden. You understood what was asked, right?

Is this what happens when one surfs the net for legitimate reasons and doesn't read the words in the pictures?

This is absolutely the LAST thing I expected from you!

Good job!

original

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
8.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1    3 weeks ago
This is absolutely the LAST thing I expected from you!

Wait!!!  You expected anything other than spamming memes from some?  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.2  author  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.1.1    3 weeks ago
You expected anything other than spamming memes from some? 

No but I didn't expect those truths being presented by that poster. i am still not sure how those are reasons to vote FOR Biden, though, and no explanation has ever been offered.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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8.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.2    3 weeks ago

I see them as nothing more than talking point without further explanation.  Seems actual articulation may be a barrier.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.4  author  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.1.3    3 weeks ago

I certainly can't dispute that.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.2  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @8    3 weeks ago

If these are some of Biden's largest accomplishments, what exactly about these inspire you to vote for him again?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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8.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @8    3 weeks ago

Looks like you are changing and voting for Trump unless you are OK with Joes destroying the country.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.3.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @8.3    3 weeks ago

I would like to her from JBB why these things inspire him to vote for Biden again.

I don't see the logic behind a decision like that based on his post, but am willing to hear why any of those things are now considered accomplishments and why anyone would want more of the same.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.3.2  author  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @8.3    3 weeks ago
Looks like you are changing and voting for Trump unless you are OK with Joes destroying the country.

Perhaps posting the truth (post 8) allowed him to see the folly of voting for Biden.

He hasn't said it will change his vote, though.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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8.3.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @8.3.1    3 weeks ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.3.4  author  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @8.3.3    3 weeks ago

I agree. memes have a place, but not in lieu of words.

I think we have a good example here of what can happen when depending on memes instead of expressing yourself in your own words.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.4  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @8    3 weeks ago

Excuse me if I am wrong, but isn't it hypocritical to claim success with the inflation crisis after Biden claimed that there simply is no crisis and inflation was merely temporary?

Same with the border.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.5  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @8    3 weeks ago

Are you positive that you want to tout this list as some of Biden's biggest accomplishments?

Seems counterproductive, even though the things are all true.

Might not be good campaigning on these things if you are Biden.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
9  charger 383    3 weeks ago

Two things I expected something from Biden on was Abortion Rights and Amtrak and he has failed to produce on either

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  charger 383 @9    3 weeks ago

Amtrak has been a drain on taxpayers since its inception.

Even with Biden being an avid rider, I don't think he can do anything to turn it around.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9.2  JBB  replied to  charger 383 @9    3 weeks ago

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.2.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @9.2    3 weeks ago

Please explain why you think high inflation and a massive problem at the border are legitimate reasons to vote for Biden.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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9.2.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @9.2    3 weeks ago

Yet he wants to tell me that I will have to buy an EV and pay for student loans so kids can use the money for a trip to Europe.

Is that why you like Joe?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10  author  Texan1211    3 weeks ago

The tally thus far:

One member posted legitimate reasons why he will vote for Trump.

One member posted some legitimate reasons why he will vote for Biden AND why he wouldn't vote for Biden.

This doesn't speak well for voters when they are unable to articulate reasons to vote for someone.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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10.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @10    3 weeks ago

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Texan1211
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10.1.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @10.1    3 weeks ago

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Texan1211
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10.1.2  author  Texan1211  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.1    3 weeks ago

I apologize for taunting all Biden and Trump voters.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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11  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 weeks ago

If you are going to comment on this article, just list your reasons for voting for your person. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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11.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11    3 weeks ago

I tried.

Someone claimed it was impossible because of the red box rules.

Are they right?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
12  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 weeks ago

I don't participate in politics on this site, since it would make my job of moderation impossible. I might chime in on an issue, to brake up the drudgery of moderation.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
12.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12    3 weeks ago

I didn't ask about politics, I am asking if the red box rules are impossible to comply with, as claimed.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
13  JBB    3 weeks ago

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
13.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @13    3 weeks ago

Biden is hardly unique in that regard, but I can concede that may be a legitimate reason.

Now, can you explain how high inflation and a border crisis are reasons to vote FOR Biden, as you claimed earlier?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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14  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

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Texan1211
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15  author  Texan1211    3 weeks ago

Please abide by the red box rules, and if they are not clear, ask for further explanation if necessary.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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15.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @15    3 weeks ago

Joe Biden will conduct himself as a president should.   You find that to be a problem ? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
15.1.1  author  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @15.1    3 weeks ago

What I find to be the problem is your ignoring the red box rules as follows:

No comparisons between Biden and Trump, period.

That isn't the topic.

No "My guy isn't as bad as the other guy" or any cutesy wordplay trying to get around the rules.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
15.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @15.1.1    3 weeks ago

You asked for reasons why someone will vote FOR Joe Biden. I gave them to you. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
15.1.3  author  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @15.1.2    3 weeks ago
You asked for reasons why someone will vote FOR Joe Biden. I gave them to you. 

You have clearly violated the red box rules.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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15.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @15.1    3 weeks ago
Joe Biden will conduct himself as a president should.

We've been waiting 3 years for that.  What's taking him so long?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
15.1.6  author  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @15.1.5    3 weeks ago
We've been waiting 3 years for that.  What's taking him so long?

The theme song from the old show Petticoat Junction comes to mind.

"Old Uncle Joe, he's moving kind slow"....

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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15.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @15.1.6    3 weeks ago

One would think that after 50 years in politics he would have picked up on something.  

 
 
 
JBB
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15.1.8  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @15.1.7    3 weeks ago

We all surely learned something from Trump and his MAGAs...

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
15.1.9  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @15.1.8    3 weeks ago
When sure learned something from Trump and his MAGAs

Is it where you also learned that a border crisis and high inflation are good reasons to vote FOR Biden?

 
 
 
JBB
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15.1.10  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @15.1.9    3 weeks ago

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Texan1211
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15.1.11  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @15.1.10    3 weeks ago

hmmmm....I will just have to assume that you DO believe that those are legitimate reasons to vote for Biden.

Why do you want more inflation and more people streaming across our border, many illegally? What is the rationale in play?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
15.1.12  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @15.1.11    3 weeks ago

President Biden can be trusted to nominate qualified judges...

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
15.1.13  author  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @15.1.12    3 weeks ago

Are those the folks responsible for high inflation and a border crisis, things you support and are willing to vote for?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
15.1.14  author  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @15.1.7    3 weeks ago
One would think that after 50 years in politics he would have picked up on something

He has, he knows when polls go south, it is time to "evolve".

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
15.1.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @15.1.9    3 weeks ago
Is it where you also learned that a border crisis and high inflation are good reasons to vote FOR Biden?

Isn't that gaslighting?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
15.1.16  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @15.1.12    3 weeks ago
President Biden can be trusted to nominate qualified judges...

When is that supposed to happen?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
15.1.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @15.1.14    3 weeks ago

When he sees the "polls go south" he asks what state.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
15.1.18  author  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @15.1.16    3 weeks ago
When is that supposed to happen?

What I see as a problem is that was the answer I received to the question I really asked.

It would appear we had a failure to communicate, as apparently he thought I asked about SCOTUS.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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15.1.19  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @15.1.18    3 weeks ago
What I see as a problem is that was the answer I received to the question I really asked.

Could you have used too many big words in your question?  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
15.1.20  author  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @15.1.19    3 weeks ago
Why do you want more inflation and more people streaming across our border, many illegally? What is the rationale in play?

There is the question. Nothing larger than nine letters.

I'm probably not the best person to ask your question of.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
16  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 weeks ago

OK 82 comments and neither side can provide a reason for voting for their guy, Furthermore, it has created a ton of work for me, due to the restrictive RBR's. I am closing this article.