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Women ask Supreme Court to toss topless ban: Why are rules different for men?

Women ask Supreme Court to toss topless ban: Why are rules different for men?


Via: TᵢG  •  147 comments  •  an hour ago
By   Pete Williams WASHINGTON — Three New Hampshire women are asking the U.S. Supreme Court to declare that a city ordinance banning women from appearing topless in public violates the Constitution by treating men and women differently. Their rallying cry is "Free the Nipple," a global motto for women seeking equal treatment. The case began in 2016 when Ginger Pierro did her yoga...
Aug 21 8:29pm @3.1.2 How very strange.  
Aug 20 2:49pm @3.2.11 Forbidden fruit.   While that is true, I am willing to bet that most men would prefer to see boobs over ankles and boobs over nape of necks.    All good, but some parts are more ... interesting ......
Aug 20 2:43pm @3.2.8 "..." I would hope not. Now, how did the fathers look at other women on the beach?   
Aug 20 2:10pm @3.2.3 Yup, not our choice.   We are cursed with this by nature; that damn Y chromosome I suppose.
Aug 20 1:42pm @3.2.1 "..." We did not decide that.   We actually have no idea why we are so fascinated with breasts.  All that we know is that we are.    Not a choice, not a decision; we were born this way.
Aug 20 12:16am @1 Well … uh … what was the question again?
A Question

A Question


By: Kathleen  •  180 comments  •  an hour ago
What do you think existed before the universe was created? Any thoughts?
Aug 21 8:26pm @1.3.1 ... and whatever energy is composed of, ad infinitum.
Aug 20 3:49pm @2.3.1 "..." True in the known universe (as far as we can tell).   If there is anything outside of the known universe, we cannot presume it behaves the same. "..." Indeed, the very concept of a...
Aug 19 1:26pm @1.2.71 "..." LOL, I suspect Gordy will not agree with your interpretation of his words. Nobody knows (certainty) the origin of the universe.   That does not mean all opinions on this matter are equally...
Aug 19 1:23pm @1.2.70 "..." I stipulated that. "..." ??? "..." But there are wrong 'truths'.   That is the key difference.   Science offers an extrapolation of what likely is going on in the Planck epoch but...
Aug 19 1:06pm @1.2.61 Also, note that even in this article you can observe the effects of religious indoctrination.   Rather than learn about reality as discovered through science, religious views often put up barriers....
Aug 19 1:01pm @1.2.60 "..." Which argument? "..." Yes, scientific theory - a falsifiable, predictive explanation for observed behavior stated in terms of known physics and corroborated by quality evidence.   Not...
Aug 19 12:44pm @1.2.57 "..." Do what to myself? "..." The origin is not known.   However the explanations vary considerably in veracity and supporting facts. "..." I disagree.   There is no comparison to...
Aug 19 12:27pm @1.2.53 Lots of possibilities (and thus good ideas for science fiction stories) if we set aside all knowledge and just speculate on what could be.
Aug 19 12:10pm @1.2.51 The difference between science-based extrapolations from t=10-43 seconds to t=0 seconds and 'God did it' is that all of modern physics is consistent with the science based extrapolation (i.e. the...
Aug 19 12:04pm @1.2.50 Powerful alien entities which exist in 5 dimensions who create 4 dimensional universes would be one explanation.
Aug 19 11:42am @1.2.47 "..." pretend to not know = feigned obtuseness
Aug 19 11:36am @6.1.9 Unknown is the correct answer. When someone states that they know what 'created' the singularity they are making a claim that they cannot possibly support.   One can speculate (based on modern...
Aug 19 11:28am @1.2.45 Exactly!   What value comes from feigning obtuseness?
Aug 19 11:27am @5.2.11 That is a great topic for another article.   Consciousness is a great mystery.
Aug 19 11:26am @5.2.10 "..." Circular like:  open vs. closed, left vs. right, forward vs. backward?   Existence and non-existence are opposites. "..." Nevermind Bob.   If you are going to surgically pick out a part...
Aug 19 11:25am @5.2.9 "..." What does 'there is nothing' mean?   It reads as though 'nothing' can exist.   As though 'nothing' is a placeholder for a future 'something'. Nothing = non-existence.   The word itself is...
Aug 19 11:16am @2.2.38 Always.   The answer is predetermined; it is always a game of trying to find a path to that answer.
Aug 19 11:11am @5.2.6 I make no assumptions.   We know existence IS.   We know things form that necessarily are ultimately of the most basic substance of existence.   We know that since existence does not emerge from...
Aug 19 10:46am @5.2.3 "..." Something from nothing is a logical contradiction and is thus impossible.
Aug 19 10:25am @5.2.2 "..." I make no such assumption.
Aug 19 12:36am @1.2.40 The key is to be correct.   When someone makes a comment that is flat out wrong like your comparison of theoretical physics to guesswork, you should not be surprised (after explaining the...
Aug 18 11:38pm @1.2.38 "..." So when Einstein put forth Special Relativity he was just guessing, eh?   There was no experimental evidence that backed up his theoretical work.   His work was based upon and extrapolated...
Aug 18 10:55pm @1.2.36 There is a profound difference between the hypotheses and models of theoretical physics and guessing. Guessing is like:  'An all-powerful sentient entity did it'.    That is what ancient men did...
Aug 18 10:47pm @1.2.34 "..." Theoretical physics (which means: well-founded, formal speculation) has offered a number of potential possibilities such as the Multiverse hypothesis or the Big Crunch, but there is...
Aug 18 9:58pm @2.2.29 Indeed, very different. Science extrapolates to the singularity but known physics breaks down at that point so there are many possibilities that science just cannot see.   So the correct answer is...
Aug 18 9:18pm @1.1.5 The most abundant element in the known universe.   The first element created.   Critical to all the other elements.   The rock star of elements.
Aug 18 8:41pm @2.2.18 As I noted in my first comment, science can only speculate (albeit based on extrapolating from well established science) what took place in the Planck epoch (the first 10-43 seconds).   The next...
Aug 18 7:56pm @1.2.30 Willfully, repeatedly, stubbornly and with an absolute refusal to learn.   It is fascinating to watch and 'thank God' this way of thinking is waning.
Aug 18 7:40pm @2.2.6 "..." It is the result of the chain reaction of the Big Bang. "..." You are not paying attention.   Nowadays, what I just described is taught in High School and undergraduate courses in...
Aug 18 7:27pm @1.2.28 God has always existed is merely a claim based on nothing but imagination. God is creator of all things is merely a claim based on nothing but imagination. Possible, yes, but there is no evidence...
Aug 18 7:16pm @1.2.23 "..." Anti-science in 2019. 
Aug 18 7:14pm @2.2.3 Per physics, the basic atoms of Hydrogen and Helium formed when the Big Bang plasma cooled enough to allow the strong nuclear force to fuse protons and neutrons into Hydrogen (H), Helium (He) and a...
Aug 18 3:36pm @1.2.16 A theory of science is not speculation.   
Aug 18 1:20pm @1.2.13 "..." You incorrectly reduced my comment into the notion that science —regarding the origin of the universe— is speculation???   A perfect example of confirmation bias.  Reminds me of this:...
Aug 18 12:26pm @5.2 "..." Well when I use the word 'nothing' in existential discussions I am referring to the complete absence of something: non-existence.   And from that perspective, if non-existence is everything...
Aug 18 12:22pm @5.1.2 "..." Happiness and continuation of future life that can also achieve happiness.
Aug 18 12:20pm @1.2.8 "..." Per physics, prior to the universe was a singularity of extremely low entropy (uniform).   This is purely theoretical of course; the singularity is a place-holder for 'primordial content of...
Aug 18 11:52am @1.2.6 "..." Literally nothing (as in complete void ... non-existence)?   That is impossible by definition. The singularity is not nothing.
Aug 18 11:50am @4.1 "..." Does that not contradict the meaning of 'nothing'?   If nothing is absence — total void — from what would something emerge? When physicists speak of 'nothing' they are often referring to a...
Aug 18 10:43am @2.2.1 My analogy would be the water vapor in the atmosphere that extemporaneously forms cloud figures (forms).   These forms come about as a result of many complex interactions of atoms and are...
Aug 18 10:39am @1.2.3 In other words, before anything else existed, there sat alone a single sentient entity of unfathomably complexity and power.   Further, this entity is irreducible — it does not consist of anything...
Aug 18 10:35am @3.1 Exactly.  The components of the singularity and any other forms that exist based on those components (allowing the possibility that our known universe is not necessarily the only form).
Aug 17 11:43pm @2 Let's start off with what we know:    Things exists.    Existence IS. Things are composed of something:  thing ⇨ atoms ⇨ (protons, neutrons, electrons)...
Three Years Later, the French Solar Road Is a Total Flop

Three Years Later, the French Solar Road Is a Total Flop


Via: †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  •  12 comments  •  an hour ago
It was a solar experiment that seemed ingenious in its simplicity: fill a road with photovoltaic panels and let them passively soak up the rays as cars drive harmlessly above. The idea has been tried a few times, notably in rural France in 2016 with what was christened the "Wattway." Three years later, even the most optimistic supporters have deemed the Wattway a failure. The Wattway...
Aug 21 8:04pm @4.1.1 "..." A cool feature, but only if the initiative is in itself practical.
Aug 21 11:37am @4 What a strange idea to place solar panels in a high-stress, high-wear situation like a road.     Stick with rooftops.    If they really wanted to do this they probably could make it work on...
Airport kicks off plastic water bottle ban

Airport kicks off plastic water bottle ban


Via: TᵢG  •  30 comments  •  a minute ago
Every day, thousands of plastic water bottles are sold at San Francisco International Airport. So the airport is rolling out a ban on plastic water bottles to try and reduce waste. John Blackstone explains.
Aug 21 8:01pm @1.2.1 I agree.   For example, rather than buy bottled water, we filter our water at home.   We also take measures such as using our own reusable bags at the grocery store.   And, of course, we are avid...
Aug 21 12:46am @1 Using reusable bottles made of aluminum or other easily recycled material seems like a smart measure to cut down on plastic waste.
‘Global Temperature’ — Why Should We Trust A Statistic That Might Not Even Exist?

‘Global Temperature’ — Why Should We Trust A Statistic That Might Not Even Exist?


Via: Nerm_L  •  88 comments  •  5 hours ago
he United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is quite certain Earth will be in trouble if the global temperature exceeds pre-industrial levels by 1.5 degrees Celsius or more. But how can anyone know? According to university research, “global temperature” is a meaningless concept. “Discussions on global warming often refer to ‘global temperature.’ Yet the concept is...
Aug 20 1:46pm @5.3.3 "..." Correct.   You seem to think that climate scientists walk around with one metric:  average global temperature and attempt to divine all explanations of the field from that sole metric....
Aug 20 1:35pm @3.1.28 "..." More than that.   Heat content is a function of the body in which it is measured.   The larger the body, the more potential heat content.   And in air, the more humidity, the more potential...
Aug 20 11:42am @9.1.7 "..." Similarly, global average temperature is not used to monitor temperature levels around the world and identify problems.   It applies to the planet as a whole and is used historically as a...
Aug 20 11:33am @3.1.25 "..." As if I argued that it did?   Not only are you stating the obvious, you are illustrating that the DJIA is used as a macro trend as I stated.     "..." Again, as if I claimed otherwise?...
Aug 20 11:17am @3.1.24 Global warming is not about how the surface temperature of the planet feels to the human body as you argued @3.1.13.   As I noted @3.1.14, your argument is nonsense.   How the temperature feels...
Aug 19 10:43pm @3.1.21 "..." Strawman.
Aug 19 10:29pm @3.1.20 "..." The global average temperature is a summary metric.   It is equivalent to the value of the DOW (the analogy I gave @3).   In both cases a single number is used, over time, to indicate a...
Aug 19 9:26pm @3.1.18 Full baffle with bullshit mode.   Clearly you are doing this intentionally so no point in my continuing to explain this.
Aug 19 9:11pm @3.1.16 HVAC (Heating, Venting and Air-Conditioning) engineering principles apply when trying to achieve creature comfort.   We were not discussing how to keep human beings at a comfortable effective...
Aug 19 7:39pm @7.1.10 "..." OCO-2 data continues to be analyzed.   The results thus far are available in research papers but also on NASA's website.   OCO-3 data will add a new dimension for analysis. Why do you...
Aug 19 7:24pm @3.1.14 "..." Nerm, the heat index is not the heat content in the air, it is the effective temperature (how the actual temperature feels to us) based on how the human body cools itself.   High humidity...
Aug 19 1:29pm @3.1.7 "..." Repeating the same claim is not helpful.
Aug 19 12:54pm @3.1.3 "..." Given this, I would have typed what I just wrote.   You made no argument, just repeated the article's unsubstantiated claim that global average temperature is meaningless.
Aug 19 12:17pm @3 "..." What a crappy analogy.   It makes no sense under any circumstance to average a phone number.  A phone number is not a 'number', it is a numeric string.   The average phone number on its own...
Cruise ship nightmare: After measles, norovirus outbreaks, why does anyone still set sail?

Cruise ship nightmare: After measles, norovirus outbreaks, why does anyone still set sail?


Via: TᵢG  •  44 comments  •  2 days ago
By   Tara C. Smith, professor of epidemiology at Kent State University I took my 5-year-old to see the live-action version of   "The Lion King" last weekend. While we were waiting for the film to begin, we were subjected to a commercial for Disney's cruise line, sold as a family-friendly excursion with your favorite Disney characters. My son, of course, was ready to go tomorrow. I...
Aug 19 12:23pm @5.4 If you ever want to take the plunge (so to speak) I recommend a Mediterranean cruise.   Best cruise ever!   You visit many of the most famous ancient cities of the world like Rome, Athens, Pompei,...
Aug 19 11:56am @4.1 Thanks Kathleen.
Aug 19 11:54am @5.2.2 "..." Best thing about it (other than the scenery) is the opportunity to get out and explore.   If one likes to hike in nature, take helicopter rides to isolated areas, ride in various boats to...
Aug 19 1:34am @1.1.10 We always have a balcony.   There is just nothing like reading a book on a balcony while at sea.   It puts you right in the center of the awesomeness of nature (realizing the size of it all).
Aug 19 12:43am @1.1.8 Yeah, you have to plan well to make the most of your time.   The whole point of a cruise is the ports of call.
Aug 19 12:42am @1.1.7 Check out the Rhine River Cruises (and similar).   These are very small ships (200 passengers I believe).   We considered this (and might still do this later) so from what I saw I think it would be...
Aug 19 12:29am @1.2.5 We are experienced cruisers so we will be careful.
Aug 19 12:28am @1.2.4 Only time I use hand sanitizers is on a cruise or when eating in a public place.   The rest of the time it is good old-fashioned soap.   For the very reason you state.
Aug 19 12:27am @1.1.4 Unfortunately the huge ships are on the Caribbean cruises.   Larger ships take the Mediterranean, etc.   Northern Europe (due to the route) has the smaller ships. I like the big ships (personally)...
Aug 19 12:12am @1.2.1 Good advice. Good thing about cruise lines is that they have hand sanitizers everywhere and pretty much force passengers to use them upon entering a dining area.
Aug 19 12:10am @1.1.1 London to Russia with Scandinavian and Baltic stops along the way.
Aug 18 11:56pm @1 "..." Well, hell, this is not what I want to read before heading out on our anniversary cruise. 
TRUMP:  "The CLINTONS DID IT!"

TRUMP: "The CLINTONS DID IT!"


By: Eat The Press Do Not Read It  •  184 comments  •  55 minutes ago
CAUTION:  No Room in this INN for prudes! Only "free spirits, free thinkers, left-leaning liberals and problem solvers. Right-Wing Nuts, should probably "buzz off".  The truth is freightening for those with closed mind, little or no education, and, boxed in by their backwoods religious beliefs.                                           * * * *  Howdy Folks, Fellow NewsTalkers.commies,...
Aug 19 11:49am @23.2.37 "..." I did not claim that life was simple or that it is fair.   
Aug 19 1:27am @23.2.28 "..." I wish more people would do just that simple analysis and then contemplate the implications.
Aug 18 11:19pm @23.2.23 The problem, ultimately, is that the OT is embraced by Christianity and the God of the OT is held by Christianity to be the Father.   The religion of the NT (Christianity) is founded on and extends...
Aug 18 9:43pm @23.2.19 Given God is the arbiter of objective morality, it should be possible to get a definitive answer on this question. I share your disapproval of LFOD's bigoted position but this question of morality...
Ditch the switch? Call to go on permanent daylight saving time grows

Ditch the switch? Call to go on permanent daylight saving time grows


Via: TᵢG  •  49 comments  •  2 days ago
By   Elizabeth Chuck In the days after our   chronically sleep-deprived   country “springs forward,” costing us an hour of rest, disoriented Americans face a slightly greater risk of   heart attack   and   stroke . There are more   car crashes .   Workplace accidents   increase, too. For decades, most of the United States has observed daylight saving time, dutifully changing...
Aug 18 11:59pm @1.4.1 My wife has about 20 clocks in our home (yes she loves the look of clocks) so I suppose that plays on my lack of desire to see the switch twice each year. 
Aug 18 12:26am @1 I like DST and would not have a problem if it were made perpetual.
Glossolalia - 'Speaking in Tongues'

Glossolalia - 'Speaking in Tongues'


By: TᵢG  •  104 comments  •  3 days ago
There are some who are quite adept at producing utterances that sound like a genuine language; albeit utterances that nobody understands.   These people claim to be serving as a channel for the Holy Spirit to speak through them.   The language is a spiritual language that even the speaker does not claim to understand (well, usually). This is interesting behavior.   No doubt the speaker...
Aug 18 8:05pm @8.1.30 There is quite a continuum of belief ranging from (essentially) deism (Christians who believe there must be something behind all of this) through habitual Christians (believe in the teachings in...
Aug 18 7:53pm @8.1.28 I wonder how many Christians believe there are people who truly are channeling the words of the Holy Spirit when they are speaking in tongues.   I am confident that all (or very close to all) of my...
Aug 18 7:29pm @8.1.26 "..." That would be far more credible since Klingon is actually a language with a vocabulary and syntactic structure.
Aug 18 3:59pm @8.1.24 Do you believe Robert Tilton (video in article) is actually speaking in tongues?
Aug 17 10:57am @8.3.14 "..." Religions have, over time, devised spectacular devices for ensnaring minds and keeping the faithful faithful.   The promise of everlasting life and the threat of eternal damnation were...
Aug 16 11:08pm @8.3.12 This is an excellent video MoCowGirl.   Thing is, few believers will watch this very far.   Those who do will shake their heads in denial and make comments along the line of 'you just do not...
Aug 15 2:49pm @8.1.19 "..." I know.   He is a bottom-feeding lying societal leech who has made a career of pretending to be blessed by God and able to intercede with God on behalf of others who send him money.   He...
Aug 15 1:17pm @8.1.10 "..." Then you do not know if you have the gift? "..." Honestly, you cannot tell that Robert Tilton is pretending (poorly)?: This is so over the top pathetic I am embarrassed for Tilton....
Aug 15 1:04pm @8.1.7 "..." Odd then that a true believer would not weigh in on the baby-talk-babbling of Robert Tilton or the far better but still slimy performance of the societal leach Kenneth Copeland. Are these...
Aug 15 12:33pm @8.1.5 LFOD refuses to answer my question.    It is almost as though in some cases people believe something to be true but then do not truly believe.   So when challenged, they have nothing to offer in...
Aug 14 5:31pm @8.3.3 "..." Indeed.   If the language of God is coming forth then it is indistinguishable from gibberish.    But this gibberish shows patterns from the speaker's known natural languages.  Thus if a...
Aug 14 5:22pm @8.1.3 Are these people, in your opinion, genuinely showing the gift of glossolalia or are they putting on a show?
Aug 14 11:26am @8.3 As with most religious miracles nowadays, the miracle is always something that has a plausible natural explanation.    Some people claim that they have been 'cured' of cancer by spiritual means yet...
Aug 14 10:51am @11.1 "..." I am trying to imagine how anyone observes this without shaking their heads in disgust over the utter silliness.   But then there are those who claim to have this 'gift' and appear to...
Aug 13 7:12pm @8.1 In the first video there are two individuals.   The first I do not recognize, but the second is evangelist Robert Tilton. @6.1.2 I presented a video of Kenneth Copeland speaking in tongues. Are...
Aug 13 6:46pm @6.1.4 I thought that was very clever. 
Aug 13 5:58pm @6.1.2 "..." Well let's bring that slimy societal parasite into our discussion.   Ken is so good, he actually knows what he means and offers the meaning in captions: In my opinion, one cannot...
Aug 13 5:44pm @6.1 Indeed, I actually used that very example (entanglement) in the article: "..."
Aug 13 4:53pm @1 Personally, whenever I see people speaking in tongues it comes off as cheap showmanship.   Given there seems to be no evidence that this is anything more than made up utterances I suspect my gut...
Do our pets ever really love us – or do they just stick around for the food?

Do our pets ever really love us – or do they just stick around for the food?


Via: Bob Nelson  •  9 comments  •  3 days ago
Dogs respond with an oxytocin surge when interacting with humans ... Cultura Creative/Alamy I t is almost a year to the day since Dustin, our milky-eyed nervebag of a cat, died and we still miss him a great deal, although he was not a great giver of emotion. We miss his refusing to look our way immensely. And his not wanting to be stroked there, there or there. But it...
Aug 18 10:56am @3 Our dogs certainly are in it for more than the food.   They stand guard outside the bathroom doors, bark at strangers, jump up to be next to us when we are sitting (or sleeping), run up to greet up...
The Threat of 'Socialism'

The Threat of 'Socialism'


By: TᵢG  •  298 comments  •  3 days ago
Senator Daines has submitted a resolution to ban ' socialism ' in the USA.   In effect, this resolution is stating that any policy that can be labeled ' socialism ' is a threat. It is one thing for people to talk loosely about a term, but when a self-contradicting meme becomes the subject of a proposed resolution it is difficult to suspend disbelief that many of our elected officials...
Aug 17 10:50am @2.2.43 I should have written a ton of complexity.   The cost in dollars, per se, is not my concern but rather the complexity and risk of failure in the implementation.   The point is that even unifying...
Aug 16 9:15pm @2.2.40 "..." That is a good thing.   It appears you are saying that with a typical variability in health care expenses, the optimal distribution is hit at 150 million (risk delta goes to zero).   That...
Aug 15 8:23pm @2.2.38 "..." To me the positive benefits include: Pooled risk Opportunities for effectiveness through standardization and minimal redundancy Basic coverage for everyone But I am no fan of government...
Aug 13 11:11am @2.2.34 "..." But offer (apparently) no political advantage and thus are never pursued.
Aug 12 10:36pm @2.2.31 Indeed. Standardization typically reduces complexity and enables higher economies of scale.   It is one of the major (and typically easiest) methods for improving cost-effectiveness. In this...
Aug 09 9:21pm @2.2.22 "..." Economies of scale in the category of information and administration of same implemented in a federated system:  federal standards with distributed administration by the states (and regions...
Aug 09 7:10pm @1.1.68 "..." It does indeed.
Aug 09 6:34pm @1.6.13 "..." The idea is that the basic needs is the default and that people can always apply themselves and get more.   In other words, this is not an egalitarian concept where everyone has the same or...
Aug 09 5:02pm @1.6.11 "..." Well I would imagine that would be a bear of a question to answer.   One thing I can report is that science most definitely has found that behavior is heritable and that behavior is...
Aug 09 12:30pm @6.2.24 On another note, this article is about how the senate now is further muddying the water and trying to effectively ban anything that can be labeled as 'socialism'.  Yet, almost anything can be...
Aug 09 12:00pm @1.1.61 I agree, but it is not just Rs who redefine terms.
Aug 09 11:57am @6.2.23 "..." Maybe.   If so then society will never evolve to the point where socialism will work.   That is, if the majority of the people in society are followers, takers and seeking to do the minimum...
Aug 09 11:55am @6.2.22 See @6.2.21 You too are simply thinking of taking our current capitalistic world and abruptly flipping it into a socialist world. That is of course not going to work.   Further, that is a...
Aug 09 11:53am @6.2.21 "..." I had already noted that.    "..." Yes, that is indeed what I focused on. "..." And rightly so.  You are looking at a current situation in our capitalist environment and abruptly...
Aug 09 11:42am @1.1.58 "..." If 'we' considers current Congress then I agree.   I think it is possible for human beings in civil society to devise a healthcare system that is both cost effective (as in has little waste...
Aug 09 11:38am @2.2.17 "..." Every socio-economic/political system transfers costs from some to benefit others.    Even if taxation were fixed:  everyone pays $5,000 per year regardless of income (ridiculous, but...
Aug 09 11:30am @1.6.9 "..." Nobody has tried the socialist path.    Lenin would have been the closest, but he started (necessarily due to the conditions of Russia at the time) with authoritarian rule.   He created...
Aug 09 12:01am @1.6.7 "..." That actually is an argument that socialism would do better.   If we were to fast forward to what most socialists seem to have in mind, the world consists of a network of communities each...
Aug 08 10:54pm @1.1.56 "..." There are many ways to architect a national healthcare system.   The fact that Obamacare is less than spectacular is not a very good argument that ALL approaches are therefore doomed....
Aug 08 10:37pm @1.1.55 "..." If government is involved in the typical manner, quality of care will go down and costs will go up. "..." So, yes, a straight-line extrapolation based on where our system is today (and...
Aug 08 9:07pm @1.1.52 "..." Did you not read this?:   "..." I acknowledged your conditional and noted that conditional or not that I am surprised that you brought up government run healthcare and did not say...
Aug 08 9:00pm @1.1.51 Repeating your allegation that I am ignorant of the basics of how our system works pretty much tells me that you have no rebuttal to my comments. Note, you are here publicly trying to convince...
Aug 08 8:33pm @2.2.15 "..." For lower income people I am sure that is all they are thinking. For others looking at this more in terms of the nation as a whole, the attraction would be more of having a means to get...
Aug 08 8:16pm @1.6.5 "..." I agree.   The label 'socialism' means many things and these varied meanings often contradict each other.   As far as I am concerned, anyone who uses the word 'socialism' unqualified to...
Aug 08 7:44pm @1.1.48 Think outside of the box Sunshine.   If you restrict your thoughts to extant parameters you will indeed not be able to imagine anything different.
Aug 08 7:42pm @1.1.47 "..." Unfortunately, people define these terms differently.    This sidebar on healthcare started by me making the distinction between socialized healthcare and socialism.    I noted that...
Aug 08 7:36pm @1.1.45 "..." And I am surprised that you would suggest it even as conditional.  I would have expected you to say something different like the government should not be involved in healthcare or...
Aug 08 7:31pm @1.1.44 "..." And you immediately presume "a system wherein government is used to collect and distribute funds, set regulations, etc. but where all services are provided by private sector organizations...
Aug 08 6:02pm @6.2.15 "..." Understandably.   We are living in a time where we are culturally predisposed to capitalism and, to add to that, all of our environment (everything from employee relations to retirement) is...
Aug 08 5:59pm @1.6.3 "..." Come on Wally, you are still being vague.   The democrats are proposing all sorts of stuff.   You cannot seriously be claiming that everything the collective D's are proposing is socialism...
Aug 08 5:57pm @1.1.37 "..." So what do you think I meant when I wrote this?: "..." What about my language was unclear? "..." I think you meant it will affect medical decisions.   And that is what I mentioned...
Aug 08 5:39pm @1.1.36 "..." There are plenty of ways to accomplish socialized healthcare.  The point is that the critical defining characteristic of socialized medicine / healthcare is the funding is public (which...
Aug 08 5:27pm @6.2.12 The standard dictionary definition for socialism provides the most common usages (meanings) of the word.   In this case, one typically finds socialism with two usages:  collective ownership and...
Aug 08 5:20pm @5.2.66 "..." Nerm, we cannot seem to communicate. 
Aug 08 3:54pm @5.2.63 "..." Sure, but thinking for oneself does not mean redefining terms as one sees fit.
Aug 08 3:18pm @1.6.1 What, specifically, is the 'it'?   'Socialism' is not a single thing.  That is the problem I am illustrating in this article.   There are all sorts of things that are called 'socialism' and some of...
Aug 08 3:12pm @1.1.32 "..." There are all sorts of ways in which the USA could establish a socialized system of healthcare.    I certainly recognize that most socialized systems do indeed have far more government...
Aug 08 3:06pm @6.2.10 "..." My point was that there would still be government (what we call the public sector) and business (what I was calling the private sector to keep with familiar terms).  If you wish to call...
Aug 08 2:55pm @1.1.29 "..." A more essential definition is: Socialized medicine = state control of the funding for national healthcare A system wherein government is used to collect and distribute funds, set...
Aug 08 2:46pm @6.2.8 "..." Best way to understand this is to NOT start from the presumption that you are in a capitalist economy that has abruptly moved to a socialist economy.   The two are profoundly different and...
Aug 08 2:36pm @6.2.7 "..." Not sure what you mean.   
Aug 08 2:31pm @5.2.59 "..." That term also refers to an economy that is market based but regulated (controlled) by government.   A mix of market and command.    "..." Prove that.  Show me an authoritative source...
Aug 08 1:47pm @5.2.55 "..." You are claiming that indirect actions by the government are equivalent to direct control over the economy.   You are free to believe what you wish, but when your beliefs redefine well...
Aug 08 1:34pm @6.2.3 In our system, we distinguish the public sector from the private sector based on control.   Public sector entities are controlled by the government (the 'state'); private sector entities are...
Aug 08 12:40pm @5.2.53 You think the US has a command economy.   The unique meaning that you tend to apply to select concepts makes meaningful discussion arduous.     In other words, I do not have the patience to...
Aug 08 11:54am @5.2.49 "..." Good grief Nerm.
Aug 08 11:52am @6.2.1 "..." Socialism, at its core, means (at a minimum, there is more to say) that the workers own and operate all the businesses.  The private sector is most definitely in place.  The notion of state...
Aug 08 11:47am @1.5.2 "..." Agreed.
Aug 08 11:46am @1.1.21 "..." And there are plenty of other articles in which to discuss Trump.   This article is about the utter confusion regarding the term 'socialism' and actions by the US Senate which would...
Aug 07 5:25pm @2.2.7 (This is starting to become unnecessarily personal.)
Aug 07 5:20pm @5.2.18 "..." I see.    We have very different understandings of the term 'command economy'.
Aug 07 5:13pm @3.1.18 "..." Thus that group uses 'socialism' to stand for 'public services' designed to enable the lower 'classes' in society? To me that is: statism redistribution of wealth social programs...
Aug 07 4:52pm @5.2.16 "..." So you believe the USA (via the Fed) has a command economy?
Aug 07 4:50pm @3.1.17 "..." Why, specifically?
Aug 07 4:20pm @5.2.14 "..." Yes, that is what I understood your opinion to be originally. "..." I have stated quite a few times that I do not see how any nation could currently have a socialist economy.   The...
Aug 07 3:31pm @6.1 That qualifies as statism and, indeed, many conflate statism with socialism.   So, I suppose, you have a point.
Aug 07 3:15pm @5.2.12 "..." You just accused me of putting words in your mouth and here you are again saying that a free marketplace is incompatible with socialism.   If socialism is incompatible with a free...
Aug 07 2:38pm @1.1.6 There is also an important difference between 'socialized ____' and socialism.  I make this point because it correlates with why I wrote this article.  Socialized medicine, for example, typically...
Aug 07 2:06pm @5.2.8 "..." I am not trying to put words in your mouth.  That is what I understood from what you wrote. Nevermind, Nerm, I have lost interest.
Aug 07 1:32pm @5.2.6 Then you do presume that a free market economy would not exist in a socialist economy.   A system in which businesses are predominantly owned by the workers and operate in a competitive free market...
Aug 07 1:01pm @5.2.4 You are repeating yourself. "..." Do you presume that a free market economy would not exist in a socialist economy?
Aug 07 12:17pm @5.2.2 By that reasoning, SS ‘enables’ capitalism too.   So it has nothing to do with capitalism vs. socialism.
Aug 07 11:58am @3.1.9 They would be deemed a threat by the broad, vague concept of 'socialism' outlined in this resolution.    I wonder if the senator realizes that. But, of course, social programs are not socialism....
Aug 07 11:42am @5.2 How can you say that supply side economics enables socialism?   Would you not have to first define what you mean by the term 'socialism' since the meaning of the term is all over the map?   Note...
Aug 07 11:38am @4.1.2 In my opinion, if the USA (if any nation for that matter) ever has a system that technically meets the criteria of socialism (distributed economic control through democratic means rather than...
Aug 07 11:34am @1.1.2 ... and that now the Senate of the USA has put forth a resolution on a meme based on an overloaded word ('socialism').
Aug 07 11:33am @1.3.1 Make a comment on the content HA if you wish to participate.
Aug 07 11:24am @3.1.2 Spot on Ms. Giggles.
Aug 07 11:20am @2.1.4 "..." The point of this article is to not just cry 'socialism! socialism! .... bad, bad' but instead to point out the specific issue of concern and make a pointed argument as to why it is bad....
Aug 07 11:09am @4.1 I suspect the good senator is thinking of 'socialism' as primarily something that would be forced upon the people by an authoritarian state.   
Aug 07 11:08am @3.1 "..." It is just a resolution, but it seems this resolution would deem your business a threat.     But it stupidly would deem existing factors in our system to be a threat.   The resolution is...
Aug 07 11:06am @2.1.2 "..." I have no idea what you meant. "..." Pretty much the point of the article.   The word 'socialism' means so many contradictory things that it is virtually meaningless.   Deeming anything...
Aug 07 10:58am @2.1 "..." You think people who are talking about socialism are focused on workplace democracy? "..." Could you be more vague please? If anything, people think socialism = getting free stuff from...
Aug 07 10:44am @1 When will we figure out that the word 'socialism' without clear qualification is virtually meaningless?   It is one thing for people to see 'socialism' at every turn, but now we have a Senate...
Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide in Manhattan jail cell, autopsy report says

Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide in Manhattan jail cell, autopsy report says


Via: TᵢG  •  61 comments  •  10 hours ago
Aug. 16, 2019, 3:38 PM CDT  /  Updated Aug. 16, 2019, 4:31 PM CDT By   Tom Winter, Rich Schapiro, Jonathan Dienst and Doha Madani Jeffrey Epstein's death has been ruled a suicide by hanging, the   medical examiner's office   said Friday. The determination capped days of speculation   and conspiracy theories   after the wealthy financier and accused sex trafficker was found...
Aug 17 1:53am @2.1 I think the interesting part of this story is that a high-profile, well-connected, well-informed, desperate suicide-risk inmate somehow was able to kill himself. It may just be incredible...
Aug 17 1:05am @1 Suicide enabled by incompetence?
What is the Purpose of Life?

What is the Purpose of Life?


Via: TᵢG  •  157 comments  •  5 days ago
Brilliantly explained by Dr. Sean Carroll (one of the best physics teachers I have seen). This video weaves together many core concepts of physics in such a friendly, conceptual manner that you cannot even tell how deep this is.
Aug 17 1:21am @6.1.16 Life is deadly to life.
Aug 17 1:20am @3.2.62 That should not be a surprise.   I have stated that (in effect) for years.
Aug 16 10:44pm @6.1.13 Excellent example of a life form (and reproductive process) that argues against the notion the notion that it was designed by intent.  Evolution is a mad scientist; one would not expect such...
Aug 16 9:28pm @3.2.58 It does not imply sentient origin.   That does not mean sentient origin is precluded.
Aug 16 6:51pm @3.2.56 Do you understand what I mean by: a reason does not imply sentient origin nor does it imply current purpose? Asking a question about cause & effect does not make sense as a response.   But...
Aug 16 3:51pm @3.2.54 "..." We also have an appendix for a reason.  A reason does not imply sentient origin nor does it imply current purpose.
Aug 15 8:49pm @5.1.41 Agreed.   Theism is learned.
Aug 15 8:14pm @3.2.51 "..." Emotional feelings are at the very best personal evidence of God.   How could an emotional feeling be proof of anything other than the presence of the emotion?   For example, if I said that...
Aug 15 6:50pm @5.1.39 "..." I wonder what you think just happened.   If spirituality is not an emergent property of the mind (in particular, consciousness) then what else could it be? "..." CB do you think...
Aug 15 12:24pm @5.1.37 "..." So now you need to explain the point you are trying to make.
Aug 15 12:23pm @3.2.49 "..." I find the human eye to be a magnificent mechanism.   The complexity and functionality of the human eye is not evidence of God;  it is evidence that eyesight is valuable to human beings....
Aug 15 12:10pm @3.2.48 "..." So my consistent noting for years that science explains but does not prove is just a way for me to escape being pinned down??   I am quite happy to be 'pinned down' to my actual positions -...
Aug 15 1:18am @3.2.45 "..." We have not even explored that here.   And it does not matter pursuant to my question.   God creating the universe does not explain why the universe was created.   If you disagree, then...
Aug 15 1:15am @3.2.44 "..." No Drakk, the distinction between proof and evidence is absolutely critical when speaking of science. "..." So what are you saying, that I am making this up?    Do a little research...
Aug 15 12:35am @5.1.34 Sure.  I think what people call spirituality is indeed an emergent property of the mind.   Happiness is also an emergent property of the mind.   So is euphoria, depression, delusion, love, etc.
Aug 15 12:31am @3.2.41 "..." Parse this for me.    "..." My scenario is God proving He is God.   It is not that the solar system extemporaneously goes binary.   It is that the entity claiming to be God claims to do...
Aug 15 12:28am @3.2.40 "..." Neither option explains intent (why the universe was created). Both options explain how the universe came into being.
Aug 14 11:17pm @3.2.37 "..." Because I have stated several times that science does not prove (so your question is malformed) and that there are plenty of ways for a/the creator of the known universe to provide...
Aug 14 11:13pm @3.2.36 Why?
Aug 14 11:12pm @3.2.35 "..." By the way, this is not necessarily true.   I would strike the word 'proven' because science does not prove.   So let's go with this: God that cannot be proven [evidenced] through science...
Aug 14 10:48pm @3.2.31 "..." Let's see: You say: existence ⇨ God ⇨ known universe How about: existence ⇨ known universe Parsimony goes with option 2.
Aug 14 10:41pm @3.2.30 I do not think you need me if you are going to ask a question, ignore everything I write, and then answer the question yourself in a way that does not reflect my position.
Aug 14 9:33pm @3.2.27 "..." One must fundamentally change the meaning of the word 'religion' to include science as a religion.
Aug 14 9:32pm @3.2.26 "..." Why must there be a creator of the known universe?
Aug 14 9:31pm @3.2.25 "..." Are you aware that scientists are allowed to speak figuratively?   Well, that is allowed.    "..." LOL, so what is the purpose of an ever increasing entropy?   How does this relate to...
Aug 14 9:17pm @3.2.24 "..." Quoting ... "..." "..." I virtually repeated your question Drakk.   And the answer to what you asked is: 'of course not'. "..." Instead of blaming me, did you stop to consider...
Aug 14 11:00am @5.1.32 In short: 'There is no evidence of a sentient creator' is entirely different from 'there is no sentient creator'. Science (and me too by the way) holds the former.   Gnostic (rare) atheists hold...
Aug 13 11:53pm @5.1.30 "..." No, that is not correct.   What is correct is that science does not assume something exists unless it has evidence that suggests the existence.   That is wholly different than presuming...
Aug 13 9:25pm @8.4 Have you considered bringing this up with Enoch via his Chaplain's Corner group?   He is very experienced in the complexities and tolls of life.
Aug 13 9:06pm @5.1.27 "..." Science observes sentience; that means that sentience is at least an emergent property of existence.   Sentience can exist in our universe. That is quite different from observing that...
Aug 13 9:03pm @5.1.26 "..." There is no assumption of God.   This is science.   Science never assumes God for the same reason it never assumes magic.   Science starts with empirical evidence and continues from there....
Aug 13 8:52pm @3.2.18 "..." Okay, Drakk, now take very clear note of what just happened.   You just suggested that I contradicted myself.   You did not reread or try to figure out how what I said might make sense....
Aug 13 7:18pm @5.1.22 "..." No it does not.   It begins with the assumption that life exists and that new species evolve from earlier species. "..." Why?
Aug 13 6:45pm @3.2.16 "..." My answer is this: Of course not.   God might exist and, to date, not only has this not been proven true by science (which, by the way, goes beyond what science ever claims) but there is...
Aug 13 6:42pm @5.1.20 Well alrighty then.   An entire discipline of Biology crossed off as bogus.
Aug 13 5:54pm @6.1.8 The way I see things, the only way for life to have a philosophical meaning (intended purpose) is if there is a sentient intender.   The intender, of course, would be the creator. If there is no...
Aug 13 5:11pm @7.1 "..." Indeed, this is an explanation of physics rather than existential philosophy. The value comes from how Dr. Carroll integrates rather profound concepts in physics which explain the nature...
Aug 13 5:02pm @5.1.18 "..." The only explanation? Do you reject behavioral evolution?
Aug 13 12:42pm @3.2.14 "..." But he was teaching physics.  That is the key point.
Aug 13 11:07am @6.2 "..." To live.
Aug 13 11:05am @5.1.14 That presumes that the dynamics we call physics is sentient.
Aug 13 11:02am @5.1.13 A way to structure the thought: If there is a sentient creator, then the purpose (as in intended reason) is that determined by the creator. If there is no sentient creator then there can be no...
Aug 13 10:59am @3.2.12 Do you think that Dr. Carroll created this series to promote pantheism? I think he created this series to teach physics.   The series is: Why Doesn't Time Flow Backwards? Do Cause and Effect...
Aug 13 12:00am @5.1.9 "..." I understand that you are expressing a belief ('to my mind') but why must there be a purpose?
Aug 12 11:27pm @6.1.1 I would answer that one key purpose of life is to perpetuate life. George Carlin may have been on to something though:
Aug 12 11:26pm @5.1.6 "..." There might not be a purpose (as in divine intention) for life.   If so, we are products of reality (as are stars and quarks) that behave per our nature in very complex ways.   The purpose...
Aug 12 11:21pm @5.1.5 "..." Yes it matters.    Did you take my comment seriously as if I was arguing that the only thing that matters with human beings is to radiate heat?
Aug 12 10:06pm @3.2.8 "..." Understood. This video does an excellent job of summarizing some very important major factors of modern science.   It was not intended to argue that there is no God.
Aug 12 9:39pm @5.1 "..." To perpetuate entropy of course.   
Aug 12 9:05pm @3.2.6 "..." (including 'function') The video definitely has the message of structure and dynamics sans sentient intent.   That is, the video does not suggest a need for a sentient creator.
Aug 12 9:02pm @3.2.5 "..." And all I was doing was explaining my intent and what I am convinced is the intent of Dr. Carroll (one of my favorite authors). "..." 'Function' is a synonym for purpose. "..." I...
Aug 12 6:48pm @3.2.1 The intent of the video is actually to explain physics.   It is showing how life forms fit into the greater model of physics. Dr. Carroll is not trying to address the 'meaning' of life, nor is he...
Aug 12 11:14am @3.1 "..." I have no idea where to even begin given this.   So I have decided to not bother.
Aug 12 12:39am @1 This is the last short video in an excellent introductory series to some foundational concepts of reality in terms of modern physics.
Stephen Colbert Thoroughly Debunks Trump’s ‘Wild’ Jeffrey Epstein Conspiracy Theory

Stephen Colbert Thoroughly Debunks Trump’s ‘Wild’ Jeffrey Epstein Conspiracy Theory


Via: Tessylo  •  51 comments  •  3 days ago
Stephen Colbert Thoroughly Debunks Trump’s ‘Wild’ Jeffrey Epstein Conspiracy Theory   By matt.wilstein@thedailybeast.com (Matt Wilstein), The Daily Beast   Mon, Aug 12 9:48 PM EDT   Stephen Colbert didn’t know he could still be “shocked” by President Trump’s behavior. Then this weekend happened.  “It’s kind of...
Aug 16 2:05pm @7.1.2 "..." Anyone ever mention that extreme language harms one's credibility.   Stalinist?     
Judge: Georgia must scrap old voting machines after 2019

Judge: Georgia must scrap old voting machines after 2019


Via: TᵢG  •  16 comments  •  5 days ago
By KATE BRUMBACK ATLANTA (AP) — A federal judge overseeing a challenge to Georgia’s outdated voting system said that after years of inaction in the face of warnings about vulnerabilities, state officials have finally taken a solid step in the right direction. But she foreshadowed a looming fight over the state’s new system, writing that “it may be ‘like ‘déjà vu all over again.’” U.S....
Aug 15 11:57pm @1 Georgia could do a Florida 2000 for the 2020 election.  Not exactly hanging chads, but if they cannot get their new system up and secure, they will be forced to a pure paper ballot and the problems...
Failed Russian nuclear test hints at Putin's dangerous plans to beat U.S. defenses

Failed Russian nuclear test hints at Putin's dangerous plans to beat U.S. defenses


Via: TᵢG  •  34 comments  •  2 days ago
Aug. 13, 2019, 4:53 AM CDT By   Alexander Smith A recent explosion during what experts say was likely a Russian nuclear-powered missile test indicates Moscow could be pursuing dangerous technology in an attempt to beat U.S. missile defenses. Five scientists   were killed and radiation spiked in a nearby city following the blast at an offshore platform in the Russian Arctic last...
Aug 15 6:55pm @1.2.3 It is tragic.   Human beings, IMO, are nowhere near wise enough to have such powerful weapons. It really is akin to a child having a loaded machine gun.
Aug 15 2:52pm @1.2.1 For the most part this is all about the threat.   Trouble is, these weapons could destroy the planet.
Aug 15 1:02am @1 "..." Throughout history,  leaders of nations have conspired to encroach on other nations in the endless pursuit of more.   Tragically the stakes are now of worldwide consequence.
How to protect yourself from government phone scams

How to protect yourself from government phone scams


Via: TᵢG  •  94 comments  •  2 days ago
Advice on how to detect and deal with the ever-increasing scammers scaring people by pretending they are from the government.
Aug 15 3:56pm @4.1.8 There is a YouTube video where a hacker interacted with a scammer pretending to be Microsoft.   He got the scammer to give him access to their machine and while in the machine he deleted all the...
Aug 15 3:35pm @3.2.1 Con artists have been around for a long time;  probably as long as humans could meaningfully communicate with each other.  It is a good question as to why people seek to cheat and steal from...
Aug 14 10:50pm @15.1.1 He is a professional comedian.
Aug 14 10:23pm @15 Here is another humorous adventure in this theme:
Aug 14 12:19pm @4.2 I know, some of these bozos are pathetic.   There are YouTubers who purposely play along with these thieves to waste their time and frustrate them.   Building up their hopes only to let them...
Aug 14 12:00pm @3.1.3 Same here, I let the unknowns go to voice mail.   If they do not bother to leave a message then that is a fine clue that they do not need to talk to me.
'In God We Trust' signs to greet Louisiana students in new school year

'In God We Trust' signs to greet Louisiana students in new school year


Via: Habibertina  •  127 comments  •  one week ago
(CNN) As Louisiana students gather supplies and class schedules for a new school year, administrators are ensuring legally mandated "In God We Trust" signs are hung in every public school building in the state. Democratic Gov. John Bel Edwards signed a bill in May 2018 requiring the phrase be displayed in all public schools in the state by the beginning of the 2019-2020...
Aug 14 10:47am @4.2.13 Odd that you are interested in what a slimy personal injury lawyer has to say about constitutional law. 
Aug 12 11:16am @4.1.43 Then the motto:  In some god or gods we Trust would make more sense.
Aug 12 1:41am @4.1.36 This is about intent: "..." The problem is that a law is making a requirement to display "In God We Trust".   Justices are smarter than you give them credit; they can distinguish between posting...
Aug 12 1:01am @4.3.1 As I wrote, this should be interesting. See @4.1.7
Aug 12 12:58am @1.2.3 Does that stupid ploy never end?   'Atheism is a religion' is a line the likes of Kent Hovind, Eric Hovind, Ray Comfort and Ken Ham use.   Not the most intellectually honest religious folks around....
Aug 11 11:31pm @4.2.3 "..." See @4.1.7 "..." Why does that matter in a constitutional question?
Aug 11 10:51pm @4.1.20 That was a rhetorical question to emphasize that asking questions regarding different situations is not that relevant. I gave my direct answer @4.1.7 but you chose to not comment on any of that...
Aug 11 10:34pm @4.1.15 "..." Why is it still on our money?   You can ask all sorts of questions, but what matters is if this is subject to constitutional interpretation and then, how this is seen view the lens of the...
Aug 11 10:30pm @4.1.13 "..." I do not know, but this has not been seen by the SCotUS best I can tell.
Aug 11 10:29pm @4.1.11 "..." You are starting to show how this is violation of the Establishment clause.    It is not as if state support of multiple religions is okay but support of only one is not. Regardless,...
Aug 11 10:19pm @4.1.7 Constitutional law is more complex than that.   It is likely that this will be subjected to the Lemon test: "..." Per the test: This does not seem to have a secular purpose.   (The stated goal...
Aug 11 9:38pm @4 Seems like a blatant violation of the Establishment clause.   This should be interesting.
Only Liberals Do This: Mom Might Cut Off Her Kids’ Contact With In-Laws Because They Support Trump

Only Liberals Do This: Mom Might Cut Off Her Kids’ Contact With In-Laws Because They Support Trump


Via: Heartland American  •  126 comments  •  3 days ago
Okay—I’ll channel the Left’s code here for a second. I do come from a place of privilege concerning families—the most important aspects of it. No one has been stricken with a serious illness, everyone gets along, we love each other to death, and we all have very different political views. My dad is a Republican. My mom is a liberal Democrat, always has been since she first volunteered for Joe...
Aug 13 2:10pm @4.2.8 "..." I suppose they think they are changing minds.   It is likely IMO that they are just hurting their cause. For example, one who claims evolution is pseudoscience has poisoned, to some...
Aug 13 12:48pm @4.2.4 Generally speaking, it is unhealthy to think that a social forum is going to change the minds of most people who comment on a particular topic.   The purpose really is more for the readers who have...
Aug 13 11:24am @4.2.2 You are on a social forum designed to engage in discussion and to NOT be an echo chamber.   Accordingly, this forum is all about airing disagreement.   It is all about the dialectic. If one wants...
Aug 13 11:20am @3.2.64 "..." I asked for your opinions on the speakers in the video; not your biblical doctrine on speaking in tongues. "..." I would call that prophylactic scripture.   If one is going to support...
Aug 12 5:08pm @3.2.57 "..." Given your experience, how long do you think these folks have had the gift?   To the untrained ear it seems they are simply uttering gibberish.   Does one start off babbling (like a baby...
Aug 11 3:03pm @3.2.35 "..." Are you suggesting that CB is not a Christian? "..." You somehow have ascertained that CB is not obeying the word of Jesus?
Aug 11 1:41pm @3.2.18 If he is also questioning your Christianity then the same goes for him given all you have written. Both of you are clearly dyed-in-the-wool Christians but certainly have a very different...
Aug 11 2:34am @3.2.15 "..." Then how could you question CB's Christianity given what the man has written on NT for years?
Aug 11 1:10am @3.2.11 Given @3.2.7, seems political ideology is a stronger binding force than religious beliefs for some.
Aug 11 1:01am @3.2.10 Are you suggesting that a Christian is not allowed to call a public figure a fraud if this figure claims to be Christian? Is this in the Bible or did you make this up? "..." Oh come on, HA....
A man's missing dentures were found stuck in his throat 8 days after surgery

A man's missing dentures were found stuck in his throat 8 days after surgery


Via: sandy-2021492  •  21 comments  •  one week ago
Here’s why it’s best to remove false teeth before surgery: You just might swallow them. A medical journal is reporting the case of a 72-year-old British man whose partial dentures apparently got stuck in his throat during surgery and weren’t discovered for eight days.
Aug 12 11:32pm @4 Scary level of medical incompetence.
Oil and Gas Rigs Could Soon Be Reassigned to Fight Climate Crisis by Storing CO2 Emissions

Oil and Gas Rigs Could Soon Be Reassigned to Fight Climate Crisis by Storing CO2 Emissions


Via: TᵢG  •  27 comments  •  one week ago
Rather than spending millions of dollars to decommission oceanic oil and gas rigs, new research suggests that they could be used to combat the climate crisis. A new study from the University of Edinburgh says that North Sea oil and gas rigs could be modified to pump vast quantities of carbon dioxide emissions into rocks below the seabed. The researchers say that refitting old platforms...
Aug 12 7:15pm @5.1.10 "..." This solution produces methane and geothermal energy (for local use) from processing the brine it uses to store the CO2.
Aug 12 7:12pm @5.1.9 "..." This technology is addressing the storage problem.   Other technologies would be involved for capture and transport.   In a computer analogy, consider this to be the hard drive technology....
Aug 12 12:42am @5.1.5 "..." I do not know the answer.   The article does not go into any details on this. As I noted, I did not seed this as the magical solution to AGW or even to detail this particular method in any...
Aug 11 8:52pm @5.1.2 "..." It is akin to the principle of multitasking (which makes very effective use of the resource of time).  Using a resource to achieve better results via multiple purposes is a very important...
Aug 11 7:29pm @5.1 Storing carbon by redeploying existing obsolete equipment rather than spending money dismantling said equipment is presented here as an example of thinking out of the box.   This would be one of...
Aug 11 12:01am @1 "..." Thinking outside of the box. There are plenty of sensible, practical steps we can take that reduce CO2 emissions.
"Hey, Hey Trump - How Many Kids Did You Lock Up, Today?"

"Hey, Hey Trump - How Many Kids Did You Lock Up, Today?"


By: Eat The Press Do Not Read It  •  167 comments  •  one week ago
Trump separated three hundred children (300) [for those that can't read, but, know their numbers] as his Goosestepping ICE Troops rounded up suspected, undocumented parents working at a Mississippi food processing plant. According to the new rules established by ICE'S newest director, Herr Heimller, who willfully and stupidly, confirmed to our star reprobate, and sometime reporter, Steve...
Aug 12 12:03pm @9.2.6 "..." Did they use any of your material?
Trump threatens retaliation against countries that issue travel warnings against the US

Trump threatens retaliation against countries that issue travel warnings against the US


Via: Tessylo  •  227 comments  •  one week ago
Politics Trump threatens retaliation against countries that issue travel warnings against the US   David Jackson, USA TODAY   25 minutes ago   WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump threatened undefined retaliation Friday against countries and organizations that   issue travel warnings on the United States   because of gun violence. "If they did...
Aug 12 10:51am @2.3.21 Except in LFOD's case because he insists that he speaks in tongues and has had that 'gift' since (to my recollection) he was a teenager. Yeah, this is a gift.
Aug 10 9:33pm @2.3.18 This post is what people mean by proselytizing. It is one thing for you to make a point and then refer to scripture to back up your point.   That is not what you did here.   I am not going to flag...
Aug 10 9:30pm @2.3.17 "..." I cannot parse this sentence.   First, you have Jesus giving to Noah and Moses.   These individuals were dead before Jesus was born.   So what is going on here? Removing the Noah and Moses...
Aug 10 5:57pm @2.3.10 "..." CB is not a Marxist; that is ridiculous.  I have no sense that he seeks an all-powerful government.   Statism varies in intensity, but I presume you mean his is statist at the level of most...
Aug 10 3:28pm @2.3.6 What are CB's extreme leftist views?   Especially in theology ... an extreme leftist in theology? Also, do you consider yourself in the middle, solid right or extreme right?
The Shame and Disgrace Will Linger .......On Saturday, President Trump spread a conspiracy theory accusing the Clintons of murdering Jeffrey Epstein

The Shame and Disgrace Will Linger .......On Saturday, President Trump spread a conspiracy theory accusing the Clintons of murdering Jeffrey Epstein


Via: JohnRussell  •  84 comments  •  one week ago  •  LOCKED
August 10, 1969: SAN CLEMENTE, Calif.—President Nixon accused his predecessor Lyndon Baines Johnson of complicity in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Speaking with reporters on the first day of a 10-day stay at his Pacific Ocean vacation home …. Of course, that never happened. Obviously. How could it, how dare it? But  had it happened, such an accusation—by a...
Aug 12 12:50am @14 Right out of the script for "House of Cards". 
Why Men Like to Date Older Women

Why Men Like to Date Older Women


Via: TᵢG  •  14 comments  •  one week ago
By:  Wendy L. Patrick, Ph.D. More younger men date and marry older women than we realize. We remember famous Hollywood pairings like Demi Moore and her 16-years-younger husband Aston Kutcher. But many other couples have an even more significant age gap.  French President Emmanuel Macron is married to a woman 24 years his senior, who was a teacher at his high school. They met when...
Aug 12 12:06am @1 Good question.   I can see why some men would go after older women due to mental maturity.   I am not wired that way;  I prefer a woman a little younger than me but with a level head.   I am...
Why We Need a Senate Resolution Denouncing Socialism

Why We Need a Senate Resolution Denouncing Socialism


Via: Heartland American  •  62 comments  •  one week ago
Montana Republican Sen. Steve Daines’ new resolution – S. Res. 289, “expressing the sense of the Senate that socialism poses a significant threat to freedom, liberty, and economic prosperity” – takes three pages of text to say what can essentially be said in four words: “Stop socialism. Choose freedom.”  Don’t get me wrong – Daines (pictured) is to be commended for pushing his resolution....
Aug 11 10:59pm @1.2.27 So basically you have nothing to say that responds to what I wrote.
Aug 11 9:13pm @1.2.25 "..." Think about this HA.   Any change to our socio-economic/political system will either be imposed upon the people by the state or imposed upon the people by the people.   (You might include a...
Aug 10 9:09pm @1.2.23 ... and from those words it looks like you presumed a national political system of pure direct democracy. The meaning of my words is that socialism is likely to happen only if the people want it...
Aug 10 9:05pm @1.2.22 "..." Socialism in a nation would be a socio-economic/political system where the economic dimension is socialism rather than capitalism.   The socio-political dimensions could take many forms...
Aug 10 1:57pm @1.2.19 "..." Interesting grammar. That is tyranny of the majority.   That is something that can happen with pure Democracy.    What you fear is a political mechanism, not an economic system. Where do...
Aug 08 11:15pm @1.2.16 "..." The people of the former USSR clearly did not democratically own and control the productive resources of their economy.    I would characterize the people of the former USSR as oppressed...
Aug 07 5:07pm @1.2.14 "..." Statism HA.   In the more mild form what you described is social democracy.   In the more extreme form, what you described is state capitalism.   Both are forms of capitalism and both are...
Aug 07 4:25pm @1.2.12 "..." You got that right.   Now keep going.   What, then, are the defining characteristics of socialism?
Aug 07 4:24pm @1.2.11 Do more than simply insult me HA.   This resolution is vague and self-contradictory.   How is that a good thing for the senate to embrace? If the senate is going to pass a resolution on that which...
Aug 07 1:05pm @1.2.8 "..." I concur, and I think I have even used language nearly identical to what you wrote. "..." Nor is there any attempt to do so.   It is as though the meme is all that matters and genuinely...
Aug 07 12:44pm @1.2.6 Then clearly you would not consider any of the proposals of Bernie Sanders to be socialism since none of them call for having the state owning the means of production / distribution (a truly horrid...
Aug 07 12:21pm @1.2.4 Good point.
Aug 07 12:01pm @1.2.2 You did not answer my question nor did you respond to the content of my post. "..." Indeed.   And that starts by defining your terms.   So, again, what is 'socialism' as you use the term?
Aug 07 11:31am @1.2 What is socialism HA? This resolution is simply deeming a vague meme to be a threat.    The Senator should specifically outline criteria for the threat, not simply deem anything that is labeled...
Did Jeffery Epstein Kill Himself Because He Had Remorse For His Evil Deeds Or Because He Didnt Want To Live Without Wealth And Privilege

Did Jeffery Epstein Kill Himself Because He Had Remorse For His Evil Deeds Or Because He Didnt Want To Live Without Wealth And Privilege


By: JohnRussell  •  155 comments  •  one week ago  •  LOCKED
Accused child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein hung himself in his jail cell overnight.  Why? Was he ashamed of himself beyond bearing?  Or was he overcome with despair at the prospect of spending the rest of his life without wealth and power?  Epstein's is a story of the power of money.  He became rich through "financialization" the technical term for moving money around and getting...
Aug 11 10:59am @3.1.7 I cannot imagine me (if I were in charge) authorizing the removal of suicide watch in this case. Per the link you offered: "..." Indeed General Barr.
Aug 11 2:28am @16.2.9 Well after a suicide attempt one would expect that the facility had the ability to disable suicide.   Especially suicide by hanging. Couple that with the near certainty that Epstein had plenty of...
Aug 11 2:25am @16.2.8 Of course I know it was you who said that.  I am kidding with you.
Aug 11 1:34am @16.2.5 I was referring to a comment made by an NT member living in China who holds that his wife treats him as an emperor. 
Aug 10 10:17pm @16.2.2 You left some things out.  You went from a Canadian millionaire to a Chinese emperor. Seems to me, you are free with a loving wife in an environment that you find stimulating.   Being happy is...
Aug 10 10:04pm @16.2 Simply stated, he lost his life.    Going from a multi-billionaire with a level of power and influence none of us likely can even properly imagine to one in which all power, all luxury, all...
Aug 10 11:27am @9.1.1 That is a very sensible hypothesis.   Any supporting facts?
Aug 10 11:17am @3.1.4 Same thoughts crossed my mind.   He tried suicide before so clearly he would have been on suicide watch.
Aug 10 11:12am @9 "..." ... and (much worse) in prison Bingo (IMO)
Yikes! Biden: ‘Poor Kids Are Just As Bright And Just As Talented As White Kids’

Yikes! Biden: ‘Poor Kids Are Just As Bright And Just As Talented As White Kids’


Via: †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  •  104 comments  •  5 days ago
Oh my, this one may just do Sleepy Joe in… Via   NY Post: Gaffe-prone presidential hopeful Joe Biden put his foot in his mouth during an Iowa campaign stop on Thursday when he told a group of predominately Asian and Hispanic voters that “poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids.” Biden committed the stunning blunder while speaking about education at a...
Aug 10 6:27pm @15.3.2 Warren is starting to seem viable for the nomination but I think she is too extreme to win in the general. Too bad there do not seem to be any JFK Jr. types around anymore.
Aug 09 9:29pm @15.3 Biden, no doubt, has very honorable intentions but he is wired to misspeak.   That is how he operates.   IMO, this is his major personal liability as candidate for PotUS.   His next major negative...
Aug 09 4:14pm @13.1.1 Very possible. In the 2016 election it looked as though a truly crappy scenario could unfold:  a choice between Trump and Clinton.   Sure 'F.' enough Trump went on to win the primary and Clinton...
Aug 09 12:43pm @11.1.5 He probably learned something from Hillary's experience.    Further, if Biden thinks he has an easy win then he is doomed.   If the economy is perceived to be in good shape on election day that...
Aug 09 12:40pm @11.1.4 Only Biden can stop himself from chewing his own shoe leather.
Aug 09 12:34pm @11.1.1 I hate politics and am sick of politicians.    But I seem to recall that Biden and Palin engaged in a debate.  So far, all that I can say in a positive sense is that Biden is still (thus far) a...
Aug 09 12:12pm @11 It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Trump started his campaign with (in effect): 'I am unabashedly rich, I am crude, I am a jerk, that is how I roll'.   Biden is well known for his...
The Fine Line Between Stubbornness and Stupidity

The Fine Line Between Stubbornness and Stupidity


Via: TᵢG  •  13 comments  •  2 weeks ago
Stubbornness isn’t necessarily bad and can in fact be a virtue. Sometimes, as history has shown, people do the right thing by remaining steadfast to their beliefs. Take General Charles de Gaulle, who refused to admit defeat after France was overrun by Nazi Germany during World War II. Against overwhelming odds, he persuaded the French that they would ultimately prevail. His unwavering belief...
Aug 10 3:23pm @3.1.2 I think we all have Ed.   Too many IMO.
Aug 10 3:14pm @2.1.4 My condolences.
Aug 10 3:14pm @3.1 "..." People can be stupid and not even know they are wrong (both dumb and ignorant at the same time). Stubborn and stupid, on the other hand, deserves no slack.   I think that is what you are...
Aug 10 2:59pm @2.1.2 When it comes to teenagers, I think stubbornness has nothing to do with intelligence, but rather the desire to break free of parental rule — to make their own decisions.   In particular, to make...
Aug 10 2:49pm @2.1 Aren't all teenagers impossibly stubborn?   
Aug 10 2:33pm @1 "..." Everyone is stubborn to some degree, but the more extreme cases are like talking to a wall.   In my opinion, if someone can put forth a cogent argument (using their own words) they are...
Violent white supremacy is spreading — as is Islamic radicalism, experts warn

Violent white supremacy is spreading — as is Islamic radicalism, experts warn


Via: TᵢG  •  59 comments  •  5 days ago
By   Rachel Elbaum LONDON — In the wake of the El Paso massacre, experts who for years have tracked Islamic extremism are describing similarities to another dangerous radical ideology: white supremacy. “People treat white supremacy and Islamic extremism as if they are entirely different, but they are both forms of political violence,” said Colin Clarke, a senior research fellow at...
Aug 10 2:44pm @9.1.1 Indeed, bigotry (in terms of behavioral biology) has been a survival factor. Closer to home, in the human brain the amygdala will signal a warning based on skin color well before the image is...
Aug 10 1:28am @2.1.2 No need, I think it would be more interesting to observe this empirically and to see what the supporting arguments (if any) are.
Aug 10 1:16am @2.1 Well then I suppose it will be interesting to find out who these folks are.  Of course if these folks are actually trying to be thoughtful, per the content of the seed, they would weigh in on why...
Aug 10 12:36am @1 "..." Is worldwide connectivity a key factor in modern terrorism?
Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Democrat Socialists of America In Less Than One Minute. They Had a conference this week, and it was a disaster!

Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Democrat Socialists of America In Less Than One Minute. They Had a conference this week, and it was a disaster!


By: †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  •  53 comments  •  2 weeks ago
The Woke struggled to sit with one another. Although they all share a disdain for individuality it was their unique and special differences that became the conference's obstacle. Gender pronouns and sensory overload plagued the comrades. Thank You Comrades!
Aug 10 10:55am @14.1 Epstein was a big fundraiser for the Democratic Socialists of America??
Aug 06 10:13pm @10.1.3 "..." Agreed.   Private sector capitalism exists in China too; but it seems to me (tell me if this is wrong) that the state is trying to pull back on this.   It is interesting that you are...
Aug 06 9:28pm @10.1.1 The word has European origins but became a meme with the USSR.   It is interesting that the USSR concept of 'communism' (i.e. single party rule with a command economy ... and brutal...
Aug 05 8:29pm @6.1.8 There is no single, consistent meaning for the terms ‘socialism’ and ‘communism’. The meanings are all over the map and often contradict each other. You knew that, right? So my advice is, as...
Aug 05 6:06pm @5.2.7 "..." My comment was based on what I watched and my comments (quoted) show that.   The fact that you cannot see the blue qualification in those comments is amusing but not as amusing as the nit...
Aug 05 4:44pm @5.2.2 Well, John, maybe you should read what I wrote.   Here, I will show you with quotes: "..." "..." Look (as in read) before you attack.
Aug 05 4:40pm @6.1.5 They should have all dressed up like Bolsheviks while they were at it.    I guess that did not pass because people like our gender neutral friend wanted to wear his thong.
Aug 05 4:36pm @7 This is pathetic.   
Aug 05 4:23pm @6.1.1 I am pretty sure that this crowd thinks 'socialism' = free stuff through the state redistributing wealth from the rich.
Aug 05 4:11pm @5 Calling each other comrade?   Good friggin' grief, are these people following the model of the former USSR? Also, this is too brief to do much analysis, but the speaker is talking about defeating...
 July is on track to become Earth's hottest month on record, climate scientists say

July is on track to become Earth's hottest month on record, climate scientists say


Via: Perrie Halpern R.A.  •  170 comments  •  2 weeks ago
By   Denise Chow July is on track to become the hottest month in recorded history, climate scientists say, after heat waves blanketed North America and the Arctic saw warmer than usual temperatures. It’s the latest sign that the planet’s overall climate is warming, and that human activities are causing extreme events such as heat waves to become more likely and more intense, the...
Aug 10 2:22am @13.1.15 "..." CO2 levels have been rising (and with a chemical signature showing they arise from fossil fuels) and are most responsible for the greenhouse effect.   Water vapor is responsive to...
Aug 05 11:04am @1.3.3 "..." In terms of the history of our planet, your statement is demonstrably true.   Of course, if we ever have a nuclear war we will likely initiate a new age in Earth's evolution.   We might...
Aug 03 10:34pm @16.2 Another well considered opinion, eh?    Go ahead HA, show us what you understand of this topic.   Explain why you think AGW is a worldwide hoax.   Explain what you think AGW is and why the...
Aug 03 10:27pm @13.1.12 "..." Back up your claim.    It is not as if instrumental temperature measurements have been fabricated since the late 19th century.   The correlation of CO2 to the sharp rise in temperature...
Aug 03 5:57pm @13.1.10 Do you consider yourself more qualified than professional climate scientists?   Are your personal credentials superior to the collective knowledge of NASA (one of many organizations)? Your opinion...
Aug 03 12:22pm @13.1.6 "..." First, nothing (short of man-made formalisms such as arithmetic) can be truly proven fact.   In reality, where we do not make the rules, we can at best approximate proven fact but must...
Someone's Sick In The Head

Someone's Sick In The Head


By: JohnRussell  •  235 comments  •  5 days ago
President Trump's Chief Of Staff Mick Mulvaney appeared on Meet The Press this morning. As you might expect he said Donald Trump is not responsible for the mass murder inside a Walmart in El Paso Texas. Mulvaney went a bit beyond that into another area though. He claimed that Patrick Crusius , the El Paso shooter, suffers from mental illness and we need to treat mass shootings like this one...
Aug 09 9:48pm @10.1.36 It is surprising that the national archives source you offered does not mention that state representation (and critically the 3/5ths compromise) was a critical factor in the decision to go with the...
Aug 05 4:26pm @6.1.10 Sure, that evidence is right up there with alien abductions and seances.
Aug 05 3:55pm @6.1.8 "..." First of all, the evidence only establishes the Bible as the work of men, no evidence of divinity in any way. Second, the biblical authors borrowed that quote from their ancients: "..."...
Aug 05 1:27am @11 Anyone who engages in gratuitous murder is mentally disturbed as far as I am concerned.   Anyone who is not appalled at the idea of killing an anonymous non-combatant human being simply because the...
Federal regulators want more information about chemicals in e-cigarettes

Federal regulators want more information about chemicals in e-cigarettes


Via: TᵢG  •  24 comments  •  2 weeks ago
By   Erika Edwards Federal regulators are asking for   public input   on chemicals found in electronic cigarettes and e-liquid. On Friday, the Food and Drug Administration announced that the agency is seeking comments on a proposal that would add 19 chemicals to the already established list of harmful ingredients found in tobacco products. "As our oversight and scientific...
Aug 09 6:43pm @8.1.2 An article on low or no nicotine vaping.
Aug 09 6:36pm @8.1.1 "..." Now see that would be a good thing (at least once they get closer to water vapor and away from harmful chemicals).
Aug 09 6:09pm @8 Remember how these things were sold?    'Just water vapor'     Well that is a load of bullshit. Another thing, what is the value to the user of having nicotine in this product?    I can see using...
Aug 09 12:38pm @4.3 "..." What worries me about vaping is that I suspect the vaper gets more addicted to the nicotine than the smoker due to the easier (and seemingly safer) infusion system.   The nicotine addiction...
Twitter suspends Mitch McConnell's campaign account after posting video of protesters threatening him

Twitter suspends Mitch McConnell's campaign account after posting video of protesters threatening him


Via: cms5  •  9 comments  •  2 weeks ago
Twitter has suspended Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's reelection campaign account Thursday after posting a video showing threats against the long-time Kentucky Republican. McConnell's campaign spokesperson, Kevin Golden, called out the social platform for its decision in a statement to CBS News. The Republican Party, Trump campaign and other GOP organizations are halting their...
Aug 09 4:23pm @5.1.2 It is antitrust if done to mitigate a monopoly.   Otherwise it is simply statism.    Neither apply to the economic system of socialism.    Bernie Sanders and AOC would call that 'socialism' but...
Over 7,000 Pastors Admit They Don’t Follow Jesus

Over 7,000 Pastors Admit They Don’t Follow Jesus


Via: Bob Nelson  •  154 comments  •  2 weeks ago
One of the most troubling statements they all agreed to was this: “We emphatically deny that lectures on social issues (or activism aimed at reshaping the wider culture) are as vital to the life and health of the church as the preaching of the gospel and the exposition of Scripture.” If that isn’t sad, I don’t know what is. Not only is it disappointing to read the news that...
Aug 08 8:42pm @11.1.3 For the most part, fundies are indeed the low-hanging fruit possessing most of the problems we talk about. But religious people in general do rely upon authorities to give them the truth.   I am...
Aug 08 1:49pm @9.2.37 I have noticed that some people can read and re-read words (indeed, even 'study' these words for 50 years) yet still come away with an inexplicable interpretation of same.   
Aug 08 11:38am @9.2.34 The disconnect caused by belief is the most curious part to me.   In ancient times, gods were the substitute explanations for the lack of science.   I can certainly see how people would hold that...
Aug 08 11:25am @11.1.1 I think that is true for the leaders.   The followers, on the other hand, believe the leaders have special privilege to talk with God.
Aug 08 11:07am @9.2.31 "..." By what criteria do the subjects reject the authorities (who they believe are the representatives of God?).    If an authority told these people that they must sacrifice their first born...
Aug 08 12:37am @9.2.28 I have always been fascinated by the idea that the Bible is ostensibly produced (via inspired men) by a perfect God to communicate to His people.   Yet it cannot be read in plain language.   God...
Aug 07 10:11pm @9.2.26 Out of curiosity, is this the passage that you were referring to ... where Paul states that people should obey government? "..." Your point, it seems, is that this passage (Paul is the...
Aug 03 2:24pm @9.2.20 Well there you go Dulay, Drakk just gave you chapter and verse:  he gave you the range for the entire book of Daniel.   So his answer is yet again to tell you to go read the book of Daniel.    I...
Why Are Mass Shooters Always Men?

Why Are Mass Shooters Always Men?


By: JohnRussell  •  67 comments  •  2 weeks ago
Over the past number of years there has been a sort of bubbling up consideration of an intriguing concept - what if the world was run by women?  Would it be a better place?  I remember a 60 Minutes segment a few years ago which was about how powerful women are in Icelandic politics and how it made Iceland a much more successful and happier place. Iceland is considered one of the happiest...
Aug 06 11:25am @7 "..." It is still in our genes and will remain for a very long time. Thing is, genes do not determine behavior, they are a factor in behavior.   Environment (especially growing up) is a critical...
Former NOAA scientist from climate-change alarmist to 'denier'

Former NOAA scientist from climate-change alarmist to 'denier'


Via: Heartland American  •  52 comments  •  2 weeks ago
A former scientist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has converted from a life of supporting and peddling climate-change alarmism – based on inflated temperatures to sell the idea that manmade pollution causes global warming – to become a climate-change skeptic. “Censoring evidence, ‘fiddling’ with data and silencing skeptics were part of life at the National...
Aug 05 9:40pm @2.1.3 I was explaining science.   The fact that the author holds YEC beliefs is irrelevant.  Climate science has nothing whatsoever to do with the origin of the planet and certainly nothing to do with...
Aug 05 3:35pm @2.1.1 It is certainly more sophisticated than that.   First, science does not deny God, it just has no sentient creator hypothesis given there is no evidence upon which to base the hypothesis.   The best...
Aug 05 10:31am @5.1.4 "..." Of course you did.   You even proved it with your quoting comment @2: "..." Further, the logic of this credential flashing is flawed.   If you are simply matching credentials can you...
Aug 05 12:24am @5.1.2 ( He self cites too. ) ( Kind of like voting up your own comments. )
Aug 05 12:06am @5.1 "..." Apparently he lacks a good scientific argument. Is it possible that HA did not vet this guy before promoting him?
Aug 04 11:35pm @4.2.2 Probably explains why climate scientists have considered and rejected this hypothesis.    Dr Fleming, however, sees things differently.    Maybe he is a modern day Einstein.
Aug 04 9:40pm @4.2 Dr. Fleming's hypothesis is the old galactic cosmic ray (GCR) effect.   It is based on the fact that solar magnetic fields (emanating from the sun due to its orbital and rotational dynamics) repel...
Trump Blames The Media For White Nationalist Violence

Trump Blames The Media For White Nationalist Violence


By: JohnRussell  •  160 comments  •  one week ago
(tweet this morning) Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 7m The Media has a big responsibility to life and safety in our Country. Fake News has contributed greatly to the anger and rage that has built up over many years. News coverage has got to start being fair, balanced and unbiased, or these terrible problems...
Aug 05 2:51pm @7.1.22 "..." I am not surprised. "..." My comment was not in response to anything you have written here to Sean (or anyone else). 
Aug 05 2:41pm @7.1.20 "..." The problem is when one moves from discussing content to attacking fellow members.   If one finds someone who seems to be wrong about Trump in some way, then of course take the debate to...
Aug 05 2:22pm @7.1.18 I see too much partisanship on social media sites.   It is difficult for people to actually weigh in thoughtfully on matters (especially politics) without being cast in a stereotype.   This happens...
Aug 05 2:05pm @7.1.16 Does not make sense that he would be carrying Trump's water if he did not and will not vote for him. Unless, of course, 'carrying Trump's water' means failing to agree that everything is Trump's...
Aug 05 11:58am @7.1.13 "..." I quoted to you what the man wrote.   He said that he did not and will not vote for Trump. "..." I quoted what Sean wrote.   I did not add anything else to it.   Calling that a snide...
Aug 05 11:31am @7.1.11 "..."
Why we're stuck on a particular side of the bed

Why we're stuck on a particular side of the bed


Via: Buzz of the Orient  •  6 comments  •  2 weeks ago
Why we're stuck on a particular side of the bed BY CHRISTIAN COTRONEO, MOTHER NATURE NETWORK, AUGUST 2 2019 We eventually stake a claim to one side — and stick with it. (Photo: simona pilolla 2/Shutterstock) While it's true that no one wants to live in a house divided, sleeping arrangements are an altogether different matter. A bed divided is not just the foundation...
Aug 05 11:12am @3 My wife claimed the right side (not even sure it was a conscious choice) so I am on the left side.   I do not care.   When we are on trips we do not necessarily stick with our designated sides....
French 'flying man' succeeds in bid to cross English Channel on a jet-powered hoverboard

French 'flying man' succeeds in bid to cross English Channel on a jet-powered hoverboard


Via: Perrie Halpern R.A.  •  9 comments  •  2 weeks ago
By   Reuters SANGATTE, France — French inventor Franky Zapata on Sunday succeeded in crossing the English Channel on a jet-powered hoverboard he designed, after a   previous ended with him falling into the sea . Standing on a platform powered by five small jet engines and carrying kerosene in a backpack, Zapata took off from Sangatte, just outside Calais in France early Sunday...
Aug 05 1:55am @2 This certainly makes me feel like I am living in the future. 
Mike Pence's vulgar mistake about Christianity

Mike Pence's vulgar mistake about Christianity


Via: Don Overton  •  257 comments  •  4 hours ago
Vice President Mike Pence's   commencement address   at Liberty University this weekend was largely a predictable affair. But along with the platitudes and politicking came the part that   made headlines , the part where Pence warned his audience they'd leave Liberty to live and work in a country that doesn't particularly like them: [M]y message to all of you in the Class of 2019 is —...
Aug 05 1:50am @3.2.60 "..." Neither am I.   But in the element of social that involves traditions and culture (e.g. Christmas and all that entails) I go with the flow.
Aug 05 1:20am @3.2.58 And I get why some feel that way.   The backlash from wishing someone 'Merry Christmas' seems like an attack (maybe it is).   As you know, I am perfectly okay with the Christian traditions in the...
Aug 04 9:49pm @3.2.56 A Christian nation that persecutes itself.   Something biblically poetic about that.   
Aug 03 4:28pm @3.2.52 Clearly Drakk wants to claim that Christians are persecuted in the USA.    This to me is akin to the reasoning to support a belief in a particular God: The goal is to support the presupposition...
Aug 03 4:05pm @3.2.49 "..." By your meaning, every group is persecuted since if at least one human being is persecuting the group it is ipso facto persecuted per the dictionary meaning of the word. Thus to you, a...
Aug 03 3:43pm @3.2.46 "..." Proof (as if needed) that you are intentionally fabricating false allegations and ignoring all direct answers.   
Aug 03 3:06pm @3.2.44 "..." Start with TiG @3.1.82 ☞ "..." Continue on to TiG @3.1.74 to find this ☞ "..." The content in the entire 3.1 thread backs this up. Now let's...
Aug 03 2:54pm @3.1.88 "..." That would be true if your answers reflected consideration for what I actually wrote.   Since your answers routinely deviate into claims that I have not made your disagreement is rather...
Aug 03 11:55am @3.2.42 "..." I noted that 70% of the USA are Christians to show that Christians are clearly in control of USA society.   70% does not determine persecution.   You should actually read what I write...
Aug 03 11:11am @3.1.85 "..." In my opinion we are way past that point.   Indeed, the refusal to acknowledge what I wrote started with my very first comment in this thread.   Demonstrably, too, given the quotes and...
Aug 03 11:06am @3.1.84 "..." A new strawman, eh?   Of course you do not have the equation to quote, right?    Have you read this instead?: "..." Christians are a demographic that is in control of USA society (70%...
Aug 03 10:22am @3.1.82 Still pretending to not understand the difference between societal persecution and individual persecution, eh?    Societal persecution happens when the persecution exists in terms of the mores...
Aug 02 11:03pm @3.2.39 "..." Indeed.   The demographics in control effectively set the rules.   Understand why I have noted that 70% of the USA are Christians?   Christians have and continue to have control over USA...
Aug 02 10:41pm @3.1.79 "..." Except that I do not (and did not).   You just made that up.    I have discussed individual persecution vs. societal persecution;  not individual vs. group persecution.    Indeed what you...
Aug 02 1:44pm @3.1.76 "..." Thoughtful adult discussion would suffice. "..." You continue to work very hard to get things wrong.   To what end, I have no idea because this seems to accomplish nothing of value....
Aug 01 10:35pm @3.1.74 "..." What an extraordinary thing to write.   Telling someone that they do not understand their own position.   And then not even bothering to justify such an outrageous declaration.  "..."...
Aug 01 9:05pm @3.1.72 No. I am saying that every group is persecuted by at least one individual.   So every group can claim persecution by individuals.  As such, individual level of persecution does not offer much...
Aug 01 8:32pm @3.1.70 I could offer plenty of examples of Christian persecution by individuals.   But examples are not really very meaningful unless we have criteria for distinguishing the persecution by individuals...
Aug 01 6:41pm @3.1.66 That comment nicely illustrates your game Drakk. I assembled your vague and evasive answers into a single answer that correlates with what you have stated. I then asked you if this was correct;...
Aug 01 6:08pm @3.1.64 "..." And the definition of persecution establishes the criteria of one individual treating somebody in a cruel and unfair way, especially because of their race, religion or political beliefs....
Aug 01 5:44pm @3.1.59 By what criteria does one deem (and thus measure) Christian persecution by USA society?
Aug 01 4:14pm @3.1.57 "..." .... so what is your position on persecution of Christians by USA society?
Aug 01 4:08pm @3.1.56 "..." Dictionary 101:  the dictionary defines usages for individual words.   A single word may have several standard usages which impart different semantics. When constructing sentences we rely...
Aug 01 3:36pm @3.1.52 "..." Clearly evidenced by your subsequent comments.
Aug 01 3:34pm @3.1.51 "..." And my response is that the mere fact that devangelical engaged in individual persecution (per the dictionary definition) does not mean that in USA society Christians are persecuted. If...
Aug 01 2:35pm @3.1.44 I agree.   As soon as the challenges cannot be addressed the cliche tactics begin.    "..." Indeed.   Drakk started off by suggesting persecution can be accomplished by a single individual...
Aug 01 2:33pm @3.1.43 "..." And what do you think I am talking about when I distinguish persecution by individuals from persecution by society?   The dictionary meaning of the word 'persecute' is not and has never...
WEATHER 2050 -- America is warming fast. See how your city’s weather will be different in just one generation.

WEATHER 2050 -- America is warming fast. See how your city’s weather will be different in just one generation.


Via: Dignitatem Societatis  •  150 comments  •  2 weeks ago
Our world is getting warmer. This we know. Just look at Alaska, which experienced all-time record heat in July, topping out at 90 degrees Fahrenheit. Dozens of other cities are in the throes of a heat wave this week, which forecasters have warned will be “prolonged, dangerous, and potentially deadly.” But how much will temperatures in US cities change by 2050? By then, scientists say...
Aug 04 11:11pm @6.1.85 He said, in effect, that Marxists seek a government of unlimited power.    He has been studying Marxism for over 50 years.
Aug 04 10:36pm @6.1.82 "..." On that point we agree.
Aug 04 10:00pm @6.1.81 "..." We have totalitarian rule in the USA? Our system is based on Marxism?? The statism part is actually accurate. "..." As usual, your view of Marxism is 180° off base.   Marx was all...
Aug 04 6:19pm @6.1.67 "..." If the funding source is tax dollars (not sure what you are presuming) then every federal budget item competes with mitigation.   It is nutty to first declare climate science done (as in no...
Aug 04 5:50pm @6.1.64 "..." Science is not preventing engineering.   Politics is preventing engineering. "..." It is not necessary to stop climate science to fund mitigation.   Why do you presume that the only...
Aug 04 4:04pm @6.1.56 "..." Good call.   I am sure he is reinterpreting disagreement with his call to defund research in the area of climate science as advocating prioritizing science over engineering.
Aug 03 11:18pm @1.1.14 "..." Yes a lot of the problem is in managing perception.    "..." Gore, et. al. have done a lot of damage. "..." Agreed, we should be taking well conceived actions that are phased in and...
Aug 03 11:11pm @7.1.5 People change, but it takes time or a shocking event which forces one out of status quo.
Aug 03 10:13pm @1.1.12 "..." Why do you use the words 'forecasters' and 'weather'?   Climate science is not like weather forecasting.   Weather forecasting tries to predict short term but very complex patterns in the...
Aug 03 6:30pm @7.1.2 "..." I do not.   Climate scientists do not consider GW to be exclusively the result of human beings.   We are a factor and we need to understand what we can do to mitigate our negative...
Aug 03 6:28pm @6.1.38 "..." Exactly.   Acting now does not require that we defund the science and certainly I disagree with the notion that climate science has nothing further to offer.
Aug 03 3:30pm @6.1.26 "..." "..." That is not how engineers approach problems Nerm.   The better the quality of information the more effective the solution.   We should not cease scientific research into climate...
Aug 03 3:10pm @8.1.4 "..." Agreed.   That is what is stifling progress.   My concern, as always, is getting to the truth.   Climate science is properly something that should be understood through science (not...
Aug 03 2:33pm @6.1.21 Nerm wants to defund climate science to fund more climate engineering.   He thinks the scientific contribution is done: as if AGW is decided science and there is nothing more to learn.   
Aug 03 2:32pm @6.1.20 "..." How much of GW is anthropogenic?   What is the most pressing GW contributing factors that we should work on?  How much of a reduction or nullification of anthropogenic effects on these...
Aug 03 2:17pm @8.1.2 "..." I did not imply that you did.   I gave the opposite perspective on what you offered. Plenty of people (you can see that in this seed alone) apparently dismiss climate science as bullshit...
Aug 03 2:11pm @6.1.17 "..." Did I suggest anything even remotely close to that? "..." Good grief man, one strawman after another.   You started by wanting to defund climate science.   You jumped to the extreme and...
Aug 03 1:34pm @8.1 "..." The inverse, however, is:  the fact that this is an estimate does not mean it should be ignored as bullshit.
Aug 03 1:33pm @9.2 "..." If only.
Aug 03 1:31pm @6.1.11 "..." You think that climate science is finished?   That our scientific understanding of the climate cannot improve??
Aug 03 1:09pm @6.1.7 Why do you exclusively seek to address funding by pulling from science? There are all sorts of areas to pull from to fund engineering.   Why do you seek to defund climate science?
Aug 03 12:54pm @6.1.5 "..." I did not equivocate anything Nerm.   Read what I wrote: "..." That means that we should not presume that AGW is correct or incorrect based upon what politicians say or do.   Period.
Aug 03 12:35pm @6.1.2 "..." Strawman.   This does not address what I wrote (and you even quoted it).  
Aug 03 12:06pm @6.1 I would not conflate political actions with science.   That is, do not judge the validity of scientific findings and estimates based on the action (or inaction) of slimy politicians.
Aug 03 12:02pm @5.1.9 "..." ( The concept underlying that term came from Professor Robert Sapolsky in his book Behave which goes into details on why we behave as we do.   Part of our behavior is genetic based on what...
Aug 03 2:03am @5.1.7 I think it is human nature to accept what is told by authority.   Those who have interests satisfied by curtailing attempts to moderate and to pursue alternate technologies and practices exploit...
Aug 03 1:23am @5.1.5 Then I think those are Independents who are registered Republicans.   
Aug 03 12:17am @5.1.3 "..." Yes.   It is a partisan issue.   Most (I suspect) will simply parrot talking points and never seriously, objectively evaluate the findings thus far.    A key problem is that the R party...
Aug 03 12:00am @1.1.7 "..." There is a rather substantial difference between a scientific prediction grounded in empirical observation and based on modern understanding of physics and a guess.   The climate is indeed...
Aug 02 11:54pm @1.1.6 The fact that you deem all of climate science malarkey suggests that you deny it all.   That implies you hold the position that every scientific finding that evidences global warming is non-science...
In defiance of science

In defiance of science


Via: Heartland American  •  173 comments  •  3 weeks ago
For years, the left has claimed to be the party of science, while casting religious conservatives as ignorant, superstitious louts. But evidence is mounting that it's the other way around, and has been for some time. After all, who are the ones claiming that we should ignore biology and redefine a man as a woman if he feels like it? Who still claims, despite graphic ultrasound evidence...
Aug 01 9:41pm @11.2.19 "..." Anyone who declares that biochemical evolution is pseudoscience will be challenged.    And anyone who questions the near certainty that species are the result of biochemical evolution...
Aug 01 6:13pm @11.2.12 Your question, if answered, requires specifics supported by a reasoned argument.   I hope you are not holding your breath.