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Trump's Super Power Over Putin

  
By:  TᵢG  •  2 months ago  •  27 comments


Trump's Super Power Over Putin
President Putin and I would talk about Ukraine. ... But he never—there was never a chance of him going in, and I told him, "You better not go in. Don't go in. Don't go in." And he understood that. He understood it fully.

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Here is a reminder of what Trump claims regarding his power over Putin.   He is recounting a conversation he had with Putin about Ukraine.   He claims he knew Putin wanted to invade Ukraine but that he did not do so because he (Trump) cautioned him to not do so.

Trump is presenting himself as some powerful figure who single-handedly prevented Putin from invading Ukraine.    He claims the Ukraine war would have never happened if he were PotUS at the time and as candidate bragged that he would end the war with a phone call (even as president-elect).

The reality is that Putin is the one controlling Trump.   Putin apparently has realized how to manipulate Trump with praise and likely promises of even greater power.   In result we see the PotUS doing something that no other PotUS has ever done ... trash an ally during a time of war and create propaganda for the invading adversary.   Russian media is no doubt showing 24x7 the PotUS declaring that Ukraine started the war, that Zelensky is a dictator with a 4% approval rating, that Zelensky is being unreasonable and disrespectful, and that Ukraine has already lost the war.

Then, to make things worse, Trump cuts off Ukraine's intelligence and halts aid to our ally.   (He later reversed himself ...)

What does it take for Trump supporters to realize that Trump is not only full of shit, but he is entirely incompetent.   He is wholly unfit for office in terms of character alone, but now further demonstrates that he is also incompetent and dangerous.

He has single-handedly:

  • created a trade war with China, Canada, Mexico, and the EU
  • abandoned our allies in the Ukraine war
  • damaged all international relationships since now the planet knows that whatever trust they gad in the integrity of the USA must be substantially reduced
  • triggered inflation rather than reduce prices (the key reason he was elected)
  • raised fears of a recession and disrupted a booming stock market

And that does not even get into the stupidity of renaming the Gulf of Mexico, trying to remove birthright citizenship (jus soli), threatening to take back the Panama canal, hacking up the federal government rather than carefully trimming the fat, etc.

So review this clip and see this lying sack of shit make grand claims and compare that with the reality of him behaving as Putin's useful idiot and violating the long-standing position of the USA as the reliable leader of the free world.

The contrast is sickening.

Transcript:

President Putin and I would talk about Ukraine. It was the apple of his eye, I will tell you that. But he never—there was never a chance of him going in, and I told him, "You better not go in. Don't go in. Don't go in." And he understood that. He understood it fully.

But I'm only interested—I want to see if I can save maybe millions of lives. This could even end up in a World War III. I mean, to be honest with you, you've been hearing—now Europe is saying, "Well, I think we're going to go in, and we're going to go."

All of a sudden, you're going to end up in World War III over something that should have never happened.

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TᵢG
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1  author  TᵢG    2 months ago

Putin's useful idiot.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @1    2 months ago

I'll give him this much, he is even exceeding mosts expectations by a lot

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
1.2  Gsquared  replied to  TᵢG @1    2 months ago
Putin's useful idiot

... and America's useless idiot.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
1.2.1  Krishna  replied to  Gsquared @1.2    2 months ago
Putin's useful idiot
... and America's useless idiot.

People are saying that they are both idiots. 

Of one sort or another.

(But how useful they are is open to debate).

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Krishna @1.2.1    one month ago
People are saying that they are both idiots. 

they're both on the home stretch ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.3  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.2.2    one month ago

blood disease/mental disease ...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2  JBB    2 months ago

Putin was supposed to give up and go home when Trump ascended...

Right?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1  devangelical  replied to  JBB @2    2 months ago

trumpski would end the war in 1 day with 1 phone call ...

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Igknorantzruls
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2.1.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  devangelical @2.1    2 months ago
trumpski would end the war in 1 day with 1 phone call ..

probably a 1-900 number

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @2.1.1    one month ago

no, that's how melania's phone number starts ...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.2  author  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @2    2 months ago

The contrast is staggering.   Trump is so full of shit on most matters.   He makes bold promises and then fails to deliver (of course) and then lies about it.  

Remember during the campaign when asked about the mere 80 miles of new wall he put up and 372 miles of wall repair?   He claimed that he put up more wall than he thought was necessary.   Yet he campaigned in 2016 on a great wall (impenetrable, tall) covering the Southern border with all sorts of technology (sensors above and below ground, towers, aerial surveillance, ...) and that Mexico would pay for it ... 100%.

And this from an interview regarding what he actually did:

Trump: I think what we will do is we will complete—and when you say and when I say complete the wall, I built much more wall than I ever thought necessary. But as you build it, you find out that you need it. And we built it, and there were certain areas then you find out that are leaking and they leak. Like a politician leaks, they leak. And we would get that and we would build that and then you build something else. And it was just a system, we had a great system going. And we could have added another 200 miles of wall and good territory for it. Because it really does work, you know, walls work. Walls and wheels. I would say, you know, a lot of, see what you have here, your tape recorder, everything else is going to be obsolete in about six months. You'll have something that's much better. But the two things that are never obsolete are walls and wheels.

Just one whopping lie after another and his supporters keep defending this insanity.   Trump has made the most outrageous claims of any PotUS in my lifetime, has failed miserably to deliver, yet his supporters just keep lapping up his bullshit.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    2 months ago

What did Obama or Biden do to either prevent or end this war?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1  author  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 months ago

You need us to explain to you the history of what Biden did regarding the Ukraine war?   This is something you have to do on your own.  You are armed with incredible tools which will deliver a substantial supply of all that Biden did to counter Putin.

Now, look at what the buffoon Trump has done.   Instead of shoring up our ally (Ukraine) and setting up a position of strength prior to negotiation, Trump instead did something that no other PotUS has ever done ... trash an ally during a time of war and create propaganda for the invading adversary.   Russian media is no doubt showing 24x7 the PotUS declaring that Ukraine started the war, that Zelensky is a dictator with a 4% approval rating, that Zelensky is being unreasonable and disrespectful, and that Ukraine has already lost the war.

What kind of grand idiot thinks that the best way to negotiate peace is to kowtow to the stronger side (the invader) and diminish the weaker side (the victim)?   How does anyone with any concept of negotiation think that strengthening Putin's position will make him more willing to come to the negotiation table?

But you ignore the total incompetence of Trump and try to deflect to Biden (and Obama).   Pathetic.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.1.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @3.1    2 months ago

I like the way you stated that.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @3.1    2 months ago

So why haven't you and every other over the top Ukraine must be supported at all costs supporter hopped on a plain headed to Poland crossed the border into Ukraine and joined their military? They will literally take anyone that can hold a gun now. They are running out of people willing to fight. Hell, they are running out of people period.

Ignoring what Obama (did who started the civil war in Ukraine by backing the coup of a a legitimately elected pro Russian leader; and allowing Russia to annex Crimea) and Brandon did (it was on his watch that Russia invaded Ukraine) and blaming Trump for this entire mess is all Democrats/leftists have.

What was Brandon's exit plan for this war? Answer is he didn't damn well have one except to allow Europe and Ukraine to suck ever more money and military assets from the US (Kamala had the exact same damn plan!). How has the never ending quagmire worked out? Ukraine any closer to expelling Russia from their country? I am sure Russia will collapse any damn day now if the US just pours enough resources into Ukraine. Forget the last 3 years ever happened. It is all Trump's fault!

Explain how Zelenskyy is not a dictator when his is guilty of all of the following:

  1. He has suspended all elections under Marshall Law
  2. Banned opponent political parties
  3. Arrested his political opponents (meaning anyone that speaks out against him)
  4. Nationalized all media (can't have any opinion that is not backed by Z)
  5. Outlawed the Orthodox Church
  6. Expanded the draft age in Ukraine to anyone capable of holding a gun (That isn't working- so Z has government goon squads grabbing any male that looks healthy enough off the streets)
  7. Rolled Nazi and Fascist groups into key government positions and the military
  8. Parading captured Russian soldiers in front of the media and public (The Geneva Convention applies to Ukraine also; but it gets ignored regularly by both Ukraine and their supporters)

Democrats wanted Zelenskyy to go to the White House and reject Trump's offer. They damn well admitted to it online after meeting with him prior to the White House visit. Zelenskyy went on a one hour tirade of demands he damn well knows are never going to be met- setting preconditions for peace he knew Putin would flatly reject. Democrats trying to influence foreign policy is flat out treason- but they have done it so many times in the past they just expect to get away with it now.

Trump didn't hide what he was going to do while he was running for the Presidency. He got elected to end the war in Ukraine and get the US taxpayer off the hook. So far he has accomplished one of his two goals. He is working on getting peace done. Sorry for those who are deluded. Ukraine is not going to get a settlement favorable to them. They are not winning this war no matter how much you or they pout, lie, and complain. Crimea is gone- it was never Ukraine's to begin with. The Soviet Union giving Ukraine (who they controlled) Crimea is like me moving my wallet from my left pocket to my right. It is still my wallet. Ukraine is not going to get back areas that are mostly Russian- that Russia now has under their control. And no way in hell is Ukraine joining NATO. That is what started this whole damn war to begin with! Russia will not be paying to rebuild Ukraine. Any more than Israel will pay to rebuild the West Bank and Gaza. If Zelenskyy had half a brain he would have accepted Trump's offer to develop Ukraine's rare earth deposits. That would give Ukraine a US presence to serve as a buffer to Russia. But after his White House disaster Z is going to have to wait for Trump to set terms. 

To quote Obama "Elections have consequences"; and not just when Democrats win.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.1.3  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.2    2 months ago
"Elections have consequences"; and not just when Democrats win.

Yes they do, as his idiotic fck around and findout wipes out trillions, and he continues to back and praise Putin while attacking and degrading Zelensky i guess you don't see a problem...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1.3    2 months ago
his idiotic fck around and findout wipes out trillions

watching those FAFO videos on youtube of gullible morons expressing their maga regrets are hilarious ...

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.1.5  Igknorantzruls  replied to  devangelical @3.1.4    2 months ago
gullible morons expressing their maga regrets are hilarious ...

Would like them much more if they hadn't fcked over so many good people that DIDN'T vote for fck face

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1.5    2 months ago

maga is showing americans how they expect to be treated after POS/POTUS and his cronies are voted out ...

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Sophomore Quiet
3.1.7  Igknorantzruls  replied to  devangelical @3.1.6    2 months ago

Elections have consequences, and I have not a problem if the rest of US starts being vengeful little crybabies that feel the need to initiate retribution as its obviously the only solution to reach the 'right', back at you, so to speak, yet written, cause fck em if smitten, but it won't happen, Dems and the left tend to be too mature to resort to the gOP Trump manure

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @3.1.7    2 months ago

speak to maga in the language they understand best ...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.9  author  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1.2    2 months ago
So why haven't you and every other over the top Ukraine must be supported at all costs supporter hopped on a plain headed to Poland crossed the border into Ukraine and joined their military?

Similar to the reason you have not joined the Russian army.

More Brandon crap, you wasted your time writing your post.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @3.1    2 months ago

All MAGAs want Russia to win. The dumber ones dont know why they want Russia to win just that their leaders have decreed it. 

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
3.1.11  Hallux  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.9    2 months ago
Similar to the reason you have not joined the Russian army.

We are all probably too old to join the Salvation Army.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.12  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.10    2 months ago

defending the constitution from domestic russian collaborators for next 3 years should be a lot of fun ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.13  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @3.1.12    one month ago

putin and his buddy trumpski negotiating a peace settlement without zelenskyy's involvement sounds fair ... /s

you can almost smell the sausage burning ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
4  devangelical    one month ago

the insurgency against russia and it's collaborators will move to the western hemisphere when comrade trumpski capitulates ...

 
 

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