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Trumpists live in an alternate reality — but they believe in it, and that's terrifying | Salon.com

  
Via:  Devangelical  •  4 years ago  •  35 comments

By:   Chauncey DeVega (Salon)

Trumpists live in an alternate reality — but they believe in it, and that's terrifying | Salon.com
Older white conservatives are barraged with intense propaganda. It has shaped their world, and it's killing America

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I have witnessed some sad transitions from fairly normal to the deluded cultist phenomenon in my own family.


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I had not seen my mother for two years, for reasons we all understand too well. Several weeks ago, I was finally able to journey home.

It was wonderful to see my mother again. Blessed are those who can experience unconditional love, even if for only a few days. As I sat in that old, crooked, comfortable lounge chair in the den I noticed all the friendly "ghosts," those memories that populate a home.

I was sure I saw the ghosts of our two dogs who passed away almost 10 years ago. I am even more sure I heard one of them bark in the middle of night. He always protected my mother. I'm sure he still is.

A home also consists of the objects that accumulate there. As I always do when I come back home, I hunted through the closets. I found a picture of my father, then 19 or 20-years-old, wearing his World War II U.S. Army service uniform.

His Colt M1911 service pistol rests in a box nearby along with some ammunition. My father rarely talked about the war. But if prompted he would humbly brag that he was lethal with that pistol, an "A-plus" as he would explain it. Once I asked him to watch "Saving Private Ryan" with me. A few minutes into the film he said, "I saw stuff like this in person" and that there was no purpose in him watching it on TV. My father stood up and walked out of the room. I didn't bring up the war again.

I am not sure if we have truly forgotten those things which we "find" in our childhood homes. It seems more likely that our minds "forget" so that we can have the joy of rediscovering those objects again.

After 40 years, my father's employer "advised" him to "retire." I told my father that he would be dead in a year from loneliness and boredom and that he should fight to keep his job. Better to die at work while feeling useful than lying in a hospital bed. Almost 80 at the time, my father was tired and convinced himself that "retirement" was a good thing. But I was right: He did not last a year after being forced out of his job.

One day, shortly after that "retirement", my father was in the kitchen having an enthusiastic conversation with someone on the phone. I thought it was his best friend. I watched until he acknowledged me. "Who was that?" I asked. He said it was a telemarketer and told me they are nice people who have interesting things to say. I realized my father had become one of those older folks who are so lonely they make friends with the telemarketers. I walked into the den, sat down in that old lounge chair and went to sleep.

There are many such people who instead of being "nice" are selling pain, anger, misery, rage, hate and fear to the lonely among us. These voices also promise "solutions," offering a life of meaning through feelings of community, loyalty and "patriotism".

I receive dozens of email newsletters and updates every day from right-wing news sources, political action committees, interest groups, think tanks and other parts of the right-wing propaganda machine. I seek out these sources and always make sure to subscribe.

In my public warnings about the Age of Trump and America's descent into fascism, I have often been far ahead of the hope-peddlers, stenographers and professional centrists of the mainstream news media. But I am no Cassandra or otherwise possess any preternatural gifts. I simply pay close attention to what the Jim Crow Republicans, Trumpists and other neofascists say and do — and I take them at their word.

As a black working-class person in America I do not have the privilege and luxury that many white folks do — especially those with money — of pretending that everything is going to magically be fine, that "the institutions are strong," that the "norms" of democracy will hold, or that "we are a good people." I know for certain that the Trumpists and other neofascists are not "exaggerating" or engaging in "hyperbole" in their threats to create a new American apartheid.

To deny reality and embrace such fictions is an example of a particular type of white freedom. On this James Baldwin wrote, "People who shut their eyes to reality simply invite their own destruction and anyone who insists on remaining in a state of innocence long after that innocence is dead turns himself into a monster."

What have I "learned" from reading right-wing propaganda emails and other missives in recent weeks and months?

I have learned Joe Biden should be impeached because he is a traitor and perhaps mentally incompetent. Biden and Kamala Harris hate America and are responsible for every "crisis" from Afghanistan to "the border" and the overall downfall of American society. "Critical race theory" is the equivalent of the Taliban. "Liberals," Democrats and other "America-haters" should be dealt with by "patriots."

Donald Trump is perfect and a great leader. America is perfect and divine and should never be criticized.

Trump had a plan to defeat the Taliban, but Biden, the Democrats and the liberal media stabbed our military in the back.

Evil socialists are everywhere. They are plotting and scheming against America and our freedom.

I have also learned, of course, that Democrats and their allies stole the 2020 election from Donald Trump. Black Lives Matter and antifa are terrorists working to destroy the country. Trump's followers who attacked the Capitol were originally said not to exist at all, but are now described as noble patriots being unjustly incarcerated as political prisoners.

There are also great schools I can enroll in online that will teach me the true history and facts of America and the Constitution from a patriotic perspective.

Through these emails I now know that there are Black conservatives who are not on the Democratic Party's "plantation." They love America and are smart enough to know that the Republican Party represents Abraham Lincoln while the Democrats are the party of the Ku Klux Klan and slavery.

COVID-19 is not really a danger to the country or the world — yet somehow Donald Trump also helped create vaccines to defeat the disease.

Donald Trump loves his followers and has issued membership cards that they should carry to prove their loyalty to him. Trump also needs true American patriots to give him their money to defend the country.

In total, the right-wing echo chamber is a powerful reality-altering propaganda lying-machine for those who choose to live in it. It constitutes a lifeworld, existing in a state of epistemic closure where facts and reality are rejected in favor of lies and myths.

In this most recent iteration, the right-wing echo chamber is now TrumpWorld, revolving around its high priest and cult leader. Its doctrines include fascism, authoritarianism, white supremacy, Christian nationalism, ignorance, misogyny, a veneration of violence and other antisocial beliefs and values.

Liberals, progressives, Democrats and other rational thinkers must accept one crucial reality if they are to save America's democracy (and themselves): Those who live in the right-wing echo chamber really do believe what they are being told. Those beliefs are now extensions of their core identities.

On the question of such society-wide collective madness, psychologist Erich Fromm warned in his 1955 book "The Sane Society": "Just as there is a folie a deux there is a folie a millions — the fact that millions of people share the same mental pathology does not make these people sane."

In a new essay for Mother Jones, Kevin Drum explores the extreme political polarization in America and the role played by Trump's Republican Party and the right-wing hate media in creating it. He points first of all at Fox News:


And as anyone who's watched Fox knows, its fundamental message is rage at what liberals are doing to our country. Over the years the specific message has changed with the times — from terrorism to open borders to Benghazi to Christian cake bakers to critical race theory — but it's always about what liberal politicians are doing to cripple America, usually with a large dose of thinly veiled racism to give it emotional heft. ...

Drum observes that the "Fox effect" is real, and that "rage toward Democrats means more votes for Republicans":


As far back as 2007 researchers learned that the mere presence of Fox News on a cable system increased Republican vote share by nearly 1 percent. A more recent study estimates that a minuscule 150 seconds per week of watching Fox News can increase the Republican vote share. In a study of real-life impact, researchers found that this means the mere existence of Fox News on a cable system induced somewhere between 3 and 8 percent of non-Republicans to vote for the Republican Party in the 2000 presidential election.
The Fox pipeline is pretty simple. Fox News stokes a constant sense of outrage among its base of viewers, largely by highlighting narratives of white resentment and threats to Christianity. This in turn forces Republican politicians to follow suit. It's a positive feedback loop that has no obvious braking system, and it's already radicalized the conservative base so much that most Republicans literally believe that elections are being stolen and democracy is all but dead if they don't take extreme action.

Drum observes that "this is not an exciting conclusion" and that it may sound "more interesting to go after something new, like social media or lunatic conspiracy theories." But Fox News is the No. 1 perpetrator in stoking discord, division and far-right ideology.

Tens of millions of Americans are now lost to the right-wing cult. As repeatedly shown throughout the Age of Trump and beyond many of those people are willing to kill or die for a man who in fact despises them. (That is only one of the important facts they do not understand, but a highly salient one.) In that way, Trumpism is a license for a particular type of white rage, directed toward nonwhite people in particular and the other more generally.

Trumpism and other forms of fascism are not abstractions of political theory and philosophy. In practice, they are a force that lives through, by and against actual human beings. As I navigate and document the right-wing echo chamber (and the larger political madhouse of which it is a part), I repeatedly return to the human costs.

In a 2018 interview with Salon, Jen Senko, director of the documentary "The Brainwashing of My Dad" discussed this with me in a conversation that merits extensive quotation. My comment is in bold. We discussed the fact that in Fox News programming, everything is presented as "breaking news" or some kind of "alert."


This is exciting for older people and it can actually become addictive. Young people are watching Fox News too of course, but it really is targeted at older people. Just think about it. You are an older person, you don't have that much of a social life and you're at home. Fox News provides excitement. It provides a purpose. Fox News viewers are on a team. They feel special. There's like an in-group. Fox News is also like a cult because it's exclusive and the other side isn't just wrong, they're evil. That's what they have going for them.

After making the documentary you have likely had many people reach out to you. They see their relatives acting like your father.

Every day I get emails from people who want to help their parents or grandparents and other relatives. It is really heartbreaking. People reach out to me after watching my documentary, because for them it was like watching their own family. Most people are relieved that they're not alone. They tell me, "Now I understand why they're so angry." Now these people who have relatives addicted to Fox News know that they don't have the problem, they are not crazy. It's like when you're sick and you have a diagnosis and it makes you feel better. The same applies here.

An acquaintance told me about how when Obama first got in office she went to her uncle and aunt's house on Thanksgiving. She thought she could talk about the economy, because obviously Obama had just gotten in and he couldn't have had anything to do with the state of the economy at that point. Her uncle got so mad. He said, "Don't you talk about that man in my house. Get out!" She said, "No. I'm not leaving." He goes upstairs, gets a pistol, comes down, points it at her. She's scared to death. He lowers the gun and then shoots the floor.

Donald Trump's followers are no longer content with shooting the floor.

Law enforcement and other experts have warned that the United States is likely to experience a violent right-wing insurgency that could last for years. The FBI and Department of Homeland Security have warned that white supremacists are now a greater threat to the U.S. than Islamic terrorists.

There will be blood. There has already been much blood spilled.

American democracy is facing an existential threat, as seen on Jan. 6, in Trump's extended coup attempt and in the nationwide campaign by Republicans and the larger white right to restrict the voting rights of Black and brown people. Almost none of this is happening in secret. It is announced and loudly promoted almost every second of every day across the right-wing propaganda echo chamber. You can look away, but you do so at your own peril.

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devangelical
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1  seeder  devangelical    4 years ago

FOX - peddling paranoia to the most susceptible groups, ... old, stupid, evangelical, and white.

please remember to help keep christo-fascism and white supremacy off the NT front page by commenting and voting up seeds like this one - thank you

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    4 years ago
by highlighting narratives of white resentment and threats to Christianity. This in turn forces Republican politicians to follow suit. It's a positive feedback loop that has no obvious braking system, and it's already radicalized the conservative base so much that most Republicans literally believe that elections are being stolen and democracy is all but dead if they don't take extreme action.

Whats going on in a nutshell. 

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I saw a comment here yesterday by one of the less outwardly hostile right-wingers that claimed that the Democrats have turned into communists over the past 30 years. 

"Conservative" media , led by Fox News, has fed this garbage to gullible people and now we have the full on plague of Trumpism destroying our land. 

Since so many centrists, (moderate, independent, and "liberal") refuse to see Trumpism for what it is  it is up in the air as to whether America can recover from it. 

 
 
 
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JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    4 years ago

An Australian television station has made a 90 minute documentary about Fox News that is causing quite a stir. 

Here is the first part, I dont think the second part has come to You Tube yet

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 years ago

www.memorabletv.com   /news/four-corners-fox-and-the-big-lie-part-2-mon-30-aug-on-abc/

Four Corners: Fox and the Big Lie Part 2 Mon 30 Aug on ABC | Memorable TV

Published 3 days ago on August 26, 2021 3-4 minutes   8/25/2021



Next Monday’s Four Corners is Fox and the Big Lie: Part two of a special investigation into Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News & how the network promoted Donald Trump’s propaganda and helped destabilise democracy in America.

“I just think about the impact that it’s had on the American people. And people will say, ‘well, it’s up to them to be able to make up their own minds’. Yes. But it’s also up to the morality of news operations to provide factual information.”   Gretchen Carlson, former Fox News host.

On the night of the US presidential election, Donald Trump declared the vote was a “major fraud on the American people”. Rather than face defeat, he, and his allies, began a campaign claiming the election had been stolen.

“The secret that Trump knows is, if you’re going to lie, go big. Right? Don’t waste your time on niggling little, tiny prevarications. Go big. And then what you do is you wait for the obsequious toads to come along and rationalise your lie.”   Chris Stirewalt, Former Fox political editor

In the aftermath, high profile Fox News presenters gave a platform to Trump’s campaign pouring fuel on the already ferocious political divide.

“There was no bigger purveyor of the big lie than Fox news. People can point to some of these other smaller conservative networks, but nobody was watching them before the big lie.”   Conor Powell, Former Fox correspondent

Now their words and actions in the feverish weeks that followed the election are under scrutiny in multi-billion dollar lawsuits.

“It’s a David versus Goliath and they certainly are Goliath.”   Erik Connolly, lawyer

On Monday, in the second part of this Four Corners special, the program examines the case being made against high profile Fox News presenters and Trump backers.

“The network gave voice, repeatedly, to people putting forward the preposterous notion that the election had been stolen.”   Chris Stirewalt, Former Fox political editor

In an exclusive interview, one of Trump’s closest allies and fervent advocates of the “stolen” election conspiracy is asked to justify her claims.

“What research or fact checking did you do at the time?”   Reporter, Sarah Ferguson

The lawyers aren’t the only ones preparing to do battle. Donald Trump is back in the fight. The former president has returned to the campaign trail pushing the stolen election lie to his adoring fans as he teases another run for the presidency.

“I have a lot of friends, great people. They say ‘Mr President, don’t look back, look forward. You’re leading in every poll. You’re going to win the election so big in ’24, don’t look back.’”   Donald Trump, June 2021

And there’s a warning from former Fox insiders that there are consequences for the media, and democracy in the United States.

“If we don’t find a way in the United States to run the news business, we’re going to fall apart. This is killing us.”   Chris Stirewalt, Former Fox political editor.

Four Corners: Fox and the Big Lie Part 2 airs Monday 30 August at 8.30pm on ABC.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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Kavika
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4  Kavika     4 years ago

A week ago there were a dozen or so trump supporters on a Main Street in Ocala waving Trump flags and signs saying the election was stolen. All old, white and delusional.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @4    4 years ago

meh, it's florida. gas up the SUV and then lure those protesters into the street...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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Split Personality
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4.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    4 years ago
Death wishing much?  

Not at all, Republicans specifically passed laws that granted civil immunity from drivers that happen to drive into a BLM or ANTIFA protest.

Of course they could not write it exactly that way, so now that sword can cut both ways.

In addition to the Oklahoma measure, Republicans in Iowa’s House passed a bill earlier this month that would carve out similar protections from civil liability for drivers who hit protesters with a car, and on Monday, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a broad anti-protest measure into law that does the same.

These recent measures build upon laws proposed in 2017 — the same year that Heather Heyer, an anti-racist protester, was killed by a white supremacist driver during protests in Charlottesville, Virginia. That driver purposefully sped into a crowd of people; the anti-protest laws passed recently offer different levels of protection depending on a driver’s motivations.

As Vice’s Tess Owen explains, the new Florida law “creates civil immunity for people who drive into crowds of protesters, meaning they won’t be sued for damages if people get hurt or killed if they claim self-defense.”
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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Gordy327
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4.2  Gordy327  replied to  Kavika @4    4 years ago
All old, white and delusional.

At tis point,  anyone who still claims Trump won and/or the election was stolen is clearly delusional, if not beyond it! 

 
 
 
Ender
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5  Ender    4 years ago

What gets me is they call themselves 'patriots' as they are trying to overturn an election...

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Ender @5    4 years ago

they give all their racist and fascist entities patriotic names.

 
 
 
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Hallux
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6.1  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @6    4 years ago

Polls and independents are a fickle bunch.

 
 
 
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