abbott is in trouble and he needs to get the hypocrite vote out in the next election. it amazes me how rwnj morons can talk out of both sides of their mouth concerning individual freedom of health choices, abortion vs. vaccinations.
that teabag shopping cart is pulling down everything behind him into the aisle as he tries to put a lot more distance between himself and his incompetent handling of the texas power grid failure last february, near failure this summer, and imminent failure this winter.
Hi Sandy. It's a great video and it speaks to one practical and likely scenario. A good one too, by the way. I do want to put forward another scenario:
Conservatives and pro-lifers have been clamoring for a 'coup de grace" to abortion rights for decades, figuratively pulling out their hairs and blowing up talk radio with the wringing of hands and grinding of teeth about abortions-real and imagined. We have all heard some to this from them over the years. Some of us more than others, I am sure.
So what has pro-life been trying to get done? Pro-lifers have been looking for, pleading for, "hardcase" politicians in a bloc to come along and crush ROE by any means necessary. That is, as long as they found a willing set of leaders who can rid them of their adversary, Pro-choice, they would support those politicians no matter their other character flaws and deficits/issues.
AKA: Pro-lifers are willing to make a deal with the Devil.
That devil that came along and cut a path for how to expedite matters of political 'combat' - yes, amoral character, Donald Trump. He has demonstrated how to simply do what you are elected to do and let the chips fall where they may! Take over the levers of power and make people follow you or press them to 'overthrow' you.
Republicans and conservatives will export their example of how to 'remove' Roe to other red states. They will create a bloc of states that will not permit girls and women to abort babies in some (I suppose) scheme to over a generation or several 'reap' a harvest of more conservative youth sowed in their vein and from their 'fields.'
As for now, conservatives and some conservatives at least feel encouraged and relieved that FINALLY they are being heard by their leaders to take the liberals (and pro-choice) to task in the manner of 'combat' that won't take compromise as an option.
The thing is, even if they put an end to Roe, they will not put an end to abortion. Hell, they don't even really want to. Their wives, daughters, and girlfriends/mistresses might have an unwanted pregnancy. Abortion rates have been falling for decades, without restrictive laws. Thanks, sex ed!
At some point, this 'sound and fury' that is perpetual needs to come to an end. The self-righteous, those who think they are truly above it all, need to come to arrive at a cross-roads where they can see what others are warning and alluding will happen. Even among their conservative ranks/children! Conservatives might like to think they are ready and equipped to mother every baby that can be possibly be conceived, but in actually, in practice, things weigh up and factor quite significantly different. Once they see all the 'imperfections' and "precautions" that have been invisible to society behind those who have done the work of heroes to girls and women.
Oh the horrors and shrieks of oppression that will issue forth from behind red-state boundaries, as girls and women face the reality of living in a "man's world" once again!
Conservatives might like to think they are ready and equipped to mother every baby that can be possibly be conceived, but in actually, in practice, things weigh up and factor quite significantly different.
TBH, I don't think they even pretend to want to parent every child born of an unwanted pregnancy. There are too many kids in foster care for them to make that act believable, and there are too many objections from those who would prevent children going to homes with same-sex parents. This isn't about the welfare of the children. It's about enforcing their views on others.
What is that imagery that conservatives like to pine away over of the dramatic lifestyle of The Waltons Family. A place in the home where there is a place for the generations all under one (crowded) roof! Living out their days and suffering each others' problems with the right measure of love.
One can forget just how peaceful it is to live under a quiet, isolated, roof in one's aged years! No drama, "Papa/mama."!
It is done in a play for consistency. To foil a pro-choice claim of deformities or "syndromes" as a reason for abortion pro-lifers have to accept an otherwise healthy child but for the "deformity" of incest or rape.
Let me tell you about what Abbott's little magic trick is about.
It's sleight of hand about Texas as a whole. The trick is about the now purple Texas, one of the leading states where people from the North moving to. In the last election, the popular vote was 52% Republican 46.5% Democrat. Now that might seem like a comfortable spread, but there is a trend involved. In the 2016 election, it was 52% Repub 43% Dem and in the 2012 election, it was 57% Repub to 41% Dem. The trend is quite clear.
So the plan is to make the state as unfriendly as they can, to what are viewed as northern dem interlopers who are moving in. How do you do that? With a triple play and sleight of hand:
Create strange new voter laws in an attempt to disenfranchise.
Create unreasonable antiabortion laws
Open carry that doesn't require licenses or skill.
Don't be fooled into thinking that Abbott is crazy. He's crazy as a fox. All of this is an attempt to dissuade a specific type of northerners from moving to Texas.
You might be on to something. It is certainly a logical analysis.
The people I know in Texas think Abbott is a dummy though.
My thinking is that this law is a trial balloon. They send something to the Supreme Court that the Court punts on. In the meantime they can gauge the public reaction. If the Court had issued a stay then there wouldnt be much public reaction. The Court also sent a strong message to red states that they are very open to revisiting Roe. If they werent they would have shut the new law down.
Abbott is no dummy and there would have been a time when I would have said he was above this partisan crap, but I think the last election had a lot of Texan Republicans worried about Texas' future.
You might be right, and I dont disagree that is part of it.
There could be more to it though. Texas has a huge hispanic voting population which has thus far tended Democrat. It would make sense for Texas Republicans to appeal to the precepts of their largely Catholic religious affiliation.
According to the New York Times exit poll conducted by Edison Research for the National Election Pool, Biden won the Hispanic vote by 19 points this year.
You know, I've read a lot of gloating about how people are leaving California for Texas, and California is losing an electoral seat, while Texas is gaining, what, two? Did y'all ever stop to wonder what happens if they bring their politics with them?
You know, I've read a lot of gloating about how people are leaving California for Texas, and California is losing an electoral seat, while Texas is gaining, what, two? Did y'all ever stop to wonder what happens if they bring their politics with them?
What does that have to do with Democrats not winning for so long if the state is a swing state?
Has any other swing state EVER gone 27 years with only one party winning statewide offices?
Lots of Californians move to Austin area because of the tech industry.
A great T-shirt making the rounds here is "Don't California my Texas".
People moving here should probably remember WHY they moved to start with, and the states they moved from.
And sometimes the reason people move is for work, and nothing to do with the politics of a state and that is why they moved. Not everyone lives and breaths ideology. And the only ones who would buy a T-shirt that says "Don't California my Texas" is a natural-born Texan. You are kind of proving my point.
They are also the places that have the highest cost to own a house. And while people are moving out, NYS for instance is really pretty steady in population because we also have people coming in.
And while people are moving out, NYS for instance is really pretty steady in population because we also have people coming in.
I was only going by the data you supplied in post 10.3.1.
I am making no claims about why anyone is choosing to move, just was pointing out that a state really can't be considered a swing state if it is one-sided for 27 years.
Some people may think it means Texas is a swing state, but I have never heard that term applied to Texas.
So some of those states have the highest cost of living, high taxes, and people wonder why some choose to move?
OK, it's not a swing state yet, but the trend is going that way. That was my point. That these new laws are meant to dissuade those with more liberal views from viewing Texas as a state to move to.
So some of those states have the highest cost of living, high taxes, and people wonder why some choose to move?
There is no argument that we have a high cost of living. For some, it is a reason to leave, but for others, these states have a lot to offer, and people want that and that is why our population stays pretty stable.
OK, it's not a swing state yet, but the trend is going that way. That was my point. That these new laws are meant to dissuade those with more liberal views from viewing Texas as a state to move to.
I see what you are saying, but how can a state be considered a swing state if it is one=sided?
That's why I said "is becoming". It's not there yet. It may not be a swing state in the end. But the trend suggests that it is in the process of becoming one.
DItto for California (property taxes) too. Also, we have these "routine" fires due to repeat droughts that are plaguing our truly long state. Plus, like New York we are the 'center' of life for people migrating out of red states with their rich lands which they abuse their citizens of through regressive political practices like lying on a daily basis, 'strong-arming' the opposition, and disinformation practices. Oh yeah, more of those red-state youth and rejects come to big cities, because at some point conservatism sucks and their children love our essential freedoms.
You are right and do not doubt yourself. So it is happening that Texas (and several other red states like Georgia) see the handwriting on the wall that lying as a way of life to stay in power to the people is a losing proposition - so what do they do - they try to lock Texas into a one-party position and vote in all their pet peevish projects at once! It's a way that conservatives want to appear to be 'bouty-bouty,' or put another way -making matters happens even if it don't hold.
I have it on good faith that Texas liberals are not going to let Texas conservatives be the final word on Texas, nevertheless! If you can "smell what Texas is cooking!"
Would you look at that? I'm hoping that some of those inbound to Arkansas are of a moderate to more liberal bent. We got problems in Arkansas. Lots of problems that won't be fixed by the republican way of doing things
I do not understand what is accomplished positively by allowing adversarial political party policies to run rough-shod across the land, and amok in our national capitol. Everybody knows more is achieved when two or several agree about a thing.
As many of you know, my son was a twin. We lost his twin, our baby girl a week before our wedding and halfway into our pregnancy. What most of you don't know is that we were faced with the devastating choice to have a reduction (ie terminate the pregnancy for our baby girl).
At the same time that our doctor told us we were having a boy and a girl, she also shared that our baby girl had a number of life threatening health complications and would not survive. Talk about gender reveal.
After a couple scary emergency procedures to further understand her condition, we received phone call after phone call from various specialists confirming the severity of her case. We were also told that if we kept our twin pregnancy, it would cause a very early labor resulting in the loss of both babies.
So we were faced with a decision - keep both babies and understand that we’d lose them both immediately after their births (or during pregnancy). Or, move forward with the reduction, in order to save our son’s life. Having to play "God" and make this choice for our children was the most horrendous thing my husband and I have ever experienced. But because we had that CHOICE, our son is alive.
The long-term impact of this decision is heavy and real. I had a difficult time connecting with my son during the pregnancy for fear that we'd lose him too. I gave birth to two babies, but only took one home.
The Texas law is political theater.
abbott is in trouble and he needs to get the hypocrite vote out in the next election. it amazes me how rwnj morons can talk out of both sides of their mouth concerning individual freedom of health choices, abortion vs. vaccinations.
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There are no pro-abortion people.
try reading what I wrote again, and then read what you wrote. are you admitting to rw hypocrisy?
More like a bad joke.
that teabag shopping cart is pulling down everything behind him into the aisle as he tries to put a lot more distance between himself and his incompetent handling of the texas power grid failure last february, near failure this summer, and imminent failure this winter.
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Jesus is all about making little girls deliver the result of incest?
Thank God I'm an atheist.
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I don't think the mod here appreciated your humor.
Personally, I loved it!
Who knew that laughing at a joke would be considered unacceptable to one person.
Go figure.
Hi Sandy. It's a great video and it speaks to one practical and likely scenario. A good one too, by the way. I do want to put forward another scenario:
Conservatives and pro-lifers have been clamoring for a 'coup de grace" to abortion rights for decades, figuratively pulling out their hairs and blowing up talk radio with the wringing of hands and grinding of teeth about abortions-real and imagined. We have all heard some to this from them over the years. Some of us more than others, I am sure.
So what has pro-life been trying to get done? Pro-lifers have been looking for, pleading for, "hardcase" politicians in a bloc to come along and crush ROE by any means necessary. That is, as long as they found a willing set of leaders who can rid them of their adversary, Pro-choice, they would support those politicians no matter their other character flaws and deficits/issues.
AKA: Pro-lifers are willing to make a deal with the Devil.
That devil that came along and cut a path for how to expedite matters of political 'combat' - yes, amoral character, Donald Trump. He has demonstrated how to simply do what you are elected to do and let the chips fall where they may! Take over the levers of power and make people follow you or press them to 'overthrow' you.
Republicans and conservatives will export their example of how to 'remove' Roe to other red states. They will create a bloc of states that will not permit girls and women to abort babies in some (I suppose) scheme to over a generation or several 'reap' a harvest of more conservative youth sowed in their vein and from their 'fields.'
As for now, conservatives and some conservatives at least feel encouraged and relieved that FINALLY they are being heard by their leaders to take the liberals (and pro-choice) to task in the manner of 'combat' that won't take compromise as an option.
The thing is, even if they put an end to Roe, they will not put an end to abortion. Hell, they don't even really want to. Their wives, daughters, and girlfriends/mistresses might have an unwanted pregnancy. Abortion rates have been falling for decades, without restrictive laws. Thanks, sex ed!
At some point, this 'sound and fury' that is perpetual needs to come to an end. The self-righteous, those who think they are truly above it all, need to come to arrive at a cross-roads where they can see what others are warning and alluding will happen. Even among their conservative ranks/children! Conservatives might like to think they are ready and equipped to mother every baby that can be possibly be conceived, but in actually, in practice, things weigh up and factor quite significantly different. Once they see all the 'imperfections' and "precautions" that have been invisible to society behind those who have done the work of heroes to girls and women.
Oh the horrors and shrieks of oppression that will issue forth from behind red-state boundaries, as girls and women face the reality of living in a "man's world" once again!
Fortunately that does work, sadly, many get their sex ed from the bible.
TBH, I don't think they even pretend to want to parent every child born of an unwanted pregnancy. There are too many kids in foster care for them to make that act believable, and there are too many objections from those who would prevent children going to homes with same-sex parents. This isn't about the welfare of the children. It's about enforcing their views on others.
What is that imagery that conservatives like to pine away over of the dramatic lifestyle of The Waltons Family. A place in the home where there is a place for the generations all under one (crowded) roof! Living out their days and suffering each others' problems with the right measure of love.
One can forget just how peaceful it is to live under a quiet, isolated, roof in one's aged years! No drama, "Papa/mama."!
A judge doesn’t think much of the Texas foster care system.
Amen sister.
I noticed that there is no exception for incest. That's just gross.
It is done in a play for consistency. To foil a pro-choice claim of deformities or "syndromes" as a reason for abortion pro-lifers have to accept an otherwise healthy child but for the "deformity" of incest or rape.
welcome to the south.
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If they are going to mandate what people can do with their own bodies, I guess mandatory vaccinations are just around the corner.
Republicans supporting and passing this law probably turned the state blue in 2024.
That video made a lot of sense
Beau is a smart man.
Also compassionate.
Finding a compassionate man is akin to finding a needle in a haystack in my little corner of the Bible Belt.
He did a stellar job making the case! I liked it and agree with it!
Don't want to get pregnant in Texas?
Use one of these:
Comic relief! Biggest damn aspirin I am sure to have ever existed!
You be wrong, this sucker will stop anything seeping from Ted Cruz
Uh-uh! BAYER has competition!!! And, we're off the starting blocks. . . !!!
Come to think of it, what this legislation does, is pit people against each other.
Promoting division is standard activity right from the Republican playbook.
I see insurance rates for teavangelical churches in texas escalating dramatically.
I just saw a tictok vid about this.
Basically said, a man can rape his daughter and get her pregnant and if she terminated the pregnancy he can sue her and win 10k.
How fucked up is that...
Let me tell you about what Abbott's little magic trick is about.
It's sleight of hand about Texas as a whole. The trick is about the now purple Texas, one of the leading states where people from the North moving to. In the last election, the popular vote was 52% Republican 46.5% Democrat. Now that might seem like a comfortable spread, but there is a trend involved. In the 2016 election, it was 52% Repub 43% Dem and in the 2012 election, it was 57% Repub to 41% Dem. The trend is quite clear.
So the plan is to make the state as unfriendly as they can, to what are viewed as northern dem interlopers who are moving in. How do you do that? With a triple play and sleight of hand:
Don't be fooled into thinking that Abbott is crazy. He's crazy as a fox. All of this is an attempt to dissuade a specific type of northerners from moving to Texas.
If you disagree, please feel free to debate.
You might be on to something. It is certainly a logical analysis.
The people I know in Texas think Abbott is a dummy though.
My thinking is that this law is a trial balloon. They send something to the Supreme Court that the Court punts on. In the meantime they can gauge the public reaction. If the Court had issued a stay then there wouldnt be much public reaction. The Court also sent a strong message to red states that they are very open to revisiting Roe. If they werent they would have shut the new law down.
John,
Abbott is no dummy and there would have been a time when I would have said he was above this partisan crap, but I think the last election had a lot of Texan Republicans worried about Texas' future.
George W. Bush has an MBA from Harvard Business School.
Abbott is not the brightest bulb on the tree.
You might be right, and I dont disagree that is part of it.
There could be more to it though. Texas has a huge hispanic voting population which has thus far tended Democrat. It would make sense for Texas Republicans to appeal to the precepts of their largely Catholic religious affiliation.
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Interesting take, with likely a lot of truth to it.
Texas is becoming a swing state, and Abbott definitely doesn't want that pendulum to keep swinging left.
I wouldn't be counting on that happening. Do you know when a Democrat last won a state-wide race in Texas?
Try 1994.
One might expect a swing state to at least be competitive at some point in 27 years.
You know, I've read a lot of gloating about how people are leaving California for Texas, and California is losing an electoral seat, while Texas is gaining, what, two? Did y'all ever stop to wonder what happens if they bring their politics with them?
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What does that have to do with Democrats not winning for so long if the state is a swing state?
Has any other swing state EVER gone 27 years with only one party winning statewide offices?
Lots of Californians move to Austin area because of the tech industry.
A great T-shirt making the rounds here is "Don't California my Texas".
People moving here should probably remember WHY they moved to start with, and the states they moved from.
And yet every election shows to the contrary.
And sometimes the reason people move is for work, and nothing to do with the politics of a state and that is why they moved. Not everyone lives and breaths ideology. And the only ones who would buy a T-shirt that says "Don't California my Texas" is a natural-born Texan. You are kind of proving my point.
I'm sure that is true. But a reasonable person would HAVE to take note of political differences between states.
For inhabitants of one state wanting to keep their state as it is, perfectly reasonable.
I would expect New Yorkers to feel the same way about a bunch of Texans moving there and trying to change New York politics.
Yes, I'm sure they think that abortion access was the ruination of California. You think they became more socially conservative?
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They have not stemmed the flow.
Interesting to note that many of the states with the largest percentages of people moving out are also high-tax states.
California, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois.
They are also the places that have the highest cost to own a house. And while people are moving out, NYS for instance is really pretty steady in population because we also have people coming in.
I was only going by the data you supplied in post 10.3.1.
I am making no claims about why anyone is choosing to move, just was pointing out that a state really can't be considered a swing state if it is one-sided for 27 years.
Some people may think it means Texas is a swing state, but I have never heard that term applied to Texas.
So some of those states have the highest cost of living, high taxes, and people wonder why some choose to move?
OK, it's not a swing state yet, but the trend is going that way. That was my point. That these new laws are meant to dissuade those with more liberal views from viewing Texas as a state to move to.
There is no argument that we have a high cost of living. For some, it is a reason to leave, but for others, these states have a lot to offer, and people want that and that is why our population stays pretty stable.
I see what you are saying, but how can a state be considered a swing state if it is one=sided?
Because your gap is getting closer and closer. That is why I showed the 3 last elections.
That's why I said "is becoming". It's not there yet. It may not be a swing state in the end. But the trend suggests that it is in the process of becoming one.
DItto for California (property taxes) too. Also, we have these "routine" fires due to repeat droughts that are plaguing our truly long state. Plus, like New York we are the 'center' of life for people migrating out of red states with their rich lands which they abuse their citizens of through regressive political practices like lying on a daily basis, 'strong-arming' the opposition, and disinformation practices. Oh yeah, more of those red-state youth and rejects come to big cities, because at some point conservatism sucks and their children love our essential freedoms.
You are right and do not doubt yourself. So it is happening that Texas (and several other red states like Georgia) see the handwriting on the wall that lying as a way of life to stay in power to the people is a losing proposition - so what do they do - they try to lock Texas into a one-party position and vote in all their pet peevish projects at once! It's a way that conservatives want to appear to be 'bouty-bouty,' or put another way -making matters happens even if it don't hold.
I have it on good faith that Texas liberals are not going to let Texas conservatives be the final word on Texas, nevertheless! If you can "smell what Texas is cooking!"
Would you look at that? I'm hoping that some of those inbound to Arkansas are of a moderate to more liberal bent. We got problems in Arkansas. Lots of problems that won't be fixed by the republican way of doing things
I do not understand what is accomplished positively by allowing adversarial political party policies to run rough-shod across the land, and amok in our national capitol. Everybody knows more is achieved when two or several agree about a thing.
Three take-aways from this situation;
1- For every problem there is a solution that is neat, simple and wrong. (H.L. Menken)
2- One of the greatest delusions in this world is that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation. (Thomas B. Reed)
3-- If you want to win a vote, scratch a bigots itch. (H.M.S. Pinafore Gilbert and Sullivan)
This is a copy and paste from a Facebook post.