Florida man seeks Bible ban throughout the state's schools : NPR

  
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Florida man seeks Bible ban throughout the state's schools : NPR
Activist Chaz Stevens says the book isn't age appropriate and contains references to rape and bestiality. It's a not-so-subtle dig at Florida's recent efforts to ban books.

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A Florida activist known for his tongue-in-cheek petitions to local government agencies has asked school districts in Florida to ban the Bible.

In petitions sent to public school superintendents across the state, Chaz Stevens asked the districts to "immediately remove the Bible from the classroom, library, and any instructional material," Stevens wrote in the documents, which were shared with NPR. "Additionally, I also seek the banishment of any book that references the Bible."

His petitions cited a bill signed into law last month by Gov. Ron DeSantis, which lets parents object to educational materials. That bill came about after some parents complained about sexually explicit books being taught in Florida schools.

Many of those books, such as Gender Queer: A Memoir , deal with LGBTQ themes and coming out stories. DeSantis celebrated the removal of Gender Queer at a news conference after the signing of the law. It's "a cartoon-style book with graphic images of children performing sexual acts," he said last month. "That is wrong."

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Liberals have been critical of the legislation. After passage, the state's Democratic leader, Lauren Book, lamented Florida's joining "places like Russia and China, modern-day examples of what happens when free thought and free speech are tightly restricted in all levels of society, including in school."

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So, with Florida the latest flashpoint in the culture wars, Stevens decided it was time to take up arms. His target: The Bible. "My objection to the Bible being in your public schools is based on the following seven points, offered for your learned consideration," Stevens wrote.

Stevens proceeded to question whether the Bible is age-appropriate, pointing to its "casual" references to murder, adultery, sexual immorality, and fornication. "Do we really want to teach our youth about drunken orgies?"

He also took issue with the many Biblical references to rape, bestiality, cannibalism and infanticide. "In the end, if Jimmy and Susie are curious about any of the above, they can do what everyone else does - get a room at the Motel Six and grab the Gideons," he wrote.

The 57-year-old Deerfield Beach man says his ire was stoked after Florida lawmakers decided this month to ban 54 math books that were claimed to have incorporated topics such as critical race theory. "I love the algebras," says Stevens, who studied applied mathematics in college. "And those Tally [Tallahassee] loons just banned a bunch of arithmetic books?"

Stevens sent the petitions as a way to point out the hypocrisy, he said. "If you want to teach morality and ethics, do you really want to turn to a book that wants you to dash babies against rocks?" he told NPR, pointing to Psalm 137:9.

Stevens, who doesn't have any children attending Florida public schools, says he hasn't heard back from any of the school districts yet. But his group is tracking when the emailed petitions are opened. As of late Monday, the Pasco County School District had shared the email internally 35 times, he said — and Duval County reached out to the state capital for guidance.

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"My activism in the past has been wildly successful," Stevens said. "And, I imagine, will continue on a similar trajectory."

Stevens said he is particularly interested in drawing attention to the hypocrisy. "I don't have the votes," he said. "My job is merely to turn hypocrisy on itself and let the bureaucrats eat eachother for lunch."

It's not the first time Stevens has made waves for his activism. In 2015, he petitioned 11 South Florida municipalities to either drop the prayer that opens their city commission meetings, or let him lead a prayer in the name of Satan.

After Stevens' requests, some Florida cities ended up dropping their moment of prayer altogether. "The satanic stare withered them down," Stevens told the Sun Sentinel.

Correction April 26, 2022

Due to incorrect information provided by Chaz Stevens, an earlier version of this story said the Lake County School District had shared his emailed petition internally 35 times. Actually, it was the Pasco County School District.

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Trout Giggles
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1  seeder  Trout Giggles    2 months ago

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devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    2 months ago

here's the latest version from the S&B legal dept.

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Trout Giggles
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1.1.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 months ago

Awesome!

Attention News Talkers who are  commenting on this seed. The legal department has ordered me to use the above disclaimer. S&B does not care to engage in litigation over misunderstood words and phrases.

That is all.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2  seeder  Trout Giggles    2 months ago
"My objection to the Bible being in your public schools is based on the following seven points, offered for your learned consideration," Stevens wrote. Stevens proceeded to question whether the Bible is age-appropriate, pointing to its "casual" references to murder, adultery, sexual immorality, and fornication. "Do we really want to teach our youth about drunken orgies?"

Now this man has a wicked sense of humor, but he's right. Do you think 5 and 6 year olds should hear about those things?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    2 months ago

it's always highly entertaining when the latest fascist dictates are reversed and used against the dumb ass thumpers.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    2 months ago

Maybe we should ask Madison Cawthorn - didn't he say something about cocaine fueled republican sex orgies?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @2.2    2 months ago

... otherwise known as family reunions in the deep south.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.2.2  afrayedknot  replied to  Tessylo @2.2    2 months ago

“Madison Cawthorn…”

…literally triggered. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @2.2.1    2 months ago

That must be where he met his wife.

 
 
 
gooseisback
Freshman Silent
2.3  gooseisback  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    2 months ago
"Do we really want to teach our youth about drunken orgies?"

Where is the Bible taught in a public school in any State other than a study of "Religions" class?. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.3.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  gooseisback @2.3    2 months ago
A Florida activist known for his tongue-in-cheek petitions to local government agencies has asked school districts in Florida to ban the Bible. In petitions sent to public school superintendents across the state, Chaz Stevens asked the districts to "immediately remove the Bible from the classroom, library, and any instructional material," Stevens wrote in the documents, which were shared with NPR. "Additionally, I also seek the banishment of any book that references the Bible."

My school had a couple of copies of the Bible in the library. DeSantis is pushing to get rid of any books that mention gays and anything else he hates...well he needs to look in the school libraries. There's plenty of incest, rape, and what not in the reference section (that's where my library kept the Bible)

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.3.2  devangelical  replied to  gooseisback @2.3    2 months ago

thumpers are unceremoniously drummed out of the public school systems regularly for engaging in bible blabber.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.3.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  gooseisback @2.3    2 months ago

"Florida Law Would Require Public Schools to Offer Bible Study: Is It Legal?"

An  existing state law , approved in 2002, already gives school districts the option of providing courses that include the "objective study" of the Bible. The proposed law would require school districts to make those courses available, and students could decide whether to enroll.

 
 
 
gooseisback
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2.3.4  gooseisback  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3.1    2 months ago
My school had a couple of copies of the Bible in the library.

That wasn't the question, what school is teaching the Bible? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.3.5  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  gooseisback @2.3.4    2 months ago

If you had read the seed you would see it's not about teaching the Bible, tho you might want to take a quick glance at Dismayed's recent post.

The fact is that the Bible resides in public schools much like other books that have "questionable content". Any child can easily gain access to these books and that includes the Bible, which you have to admit contains "questionable content". And if you can't admit that, then I suggest you haven't read the Bible

 
 
 
Ender
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2.3.6  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3.5    2 months ago

I wonder if the Koran is in schools.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.3.7  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @2.3.6    2 months ago

It probably is in some larger schools. My school didn't have it, but it was a small, rural school and most everyone was Christian. I don't think I know of any kid who was Jewish or Muslim.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.3.8  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @2.3.2    2 months ago

bible blabber

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Tacos!
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2.3.9  Tacos!  replied to  gooseisback @2.3    2 months ago
Where is the Bible taught in a public school in any State other than a study of "Religions" class?.

That doesn’t seem to matter much anymore. This story, for example, is a response to a law prohibiting teaching about sex and gender in K-3, when there is probably little or none of that going on. There are other examples, but I don’t wish to derail.

Politics these days seems to be all about getting upset over problems we don’t actually have.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.3.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.9    2 months ago
Politics these days seems to be all about getting upset over problems we don’t actually have.

"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies."

Ernest Benn

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.3.11  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.9    2 months ago

"Politics these days seems to be all about getting upset over problems we don’t actually have."

Funny how that it's only the republicans that are doing that.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.3.12  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.9    2 months ago
A Florida activist known for his tongue-in-cheek petitions to local government agencies has asked school districts in Florida to ban the Bible.
 
 
 
gooseisback
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2.3.13  gooseisback  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3.5    2 months ago
If you had read the seed you would see it's not about teaching the Bible,

My question was to you since you posted "Do you think 5 and 6 year olds should hear about those things?".

How do 5 and 6 year olds hear about the Bible at school?

 
 
 
gooseisback
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2.3.14  gooseisback  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.9    2 months ago
for example, is a response to a law prohibiting teaching about sex and gender in K-3, when there is probably little or none of that going on.

Well....how much of it is going on?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.3.15  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  gooseisback @2.3.14    2 months ago

tongue in cheek

tongue in cheek

tongue in cheek.

you know....humor

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.3.16  Tacos!  replied to  gooseisback @2.3.14    2 months ago

Beyond perhaps making kids aware that some families are made up of same sex parents, I would guess none.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.3.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.9    2 months ago
Politics these days seems to be all about getting upset over problems we don’t actually have.

Like crying over restrictions on CRT being taught in schools and in the same breath claim it's not being taught?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    2 months ago

When I was a kid, my friends and I would look for the dirty parts in the bible.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.4.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.4    2 months ago

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Now, see? You just proved the whole point of this seed

 
 
 
Ender
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2.4.2  Ender  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.4    2 months ago
"Reminds me of looking at National Geographic looking for boobs..."

Is there a little boy who didn't?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.4.3  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @2.4.2    2 months ago

I think that was in my school, too

 
 
 
zuksam
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2.4.4  zuksam  replied to  Ender @2.4.2    2 months ago
Reminds me of looking at National Geographic looking for boob

I don't remember the NG issue but I still remember it was page 88, full frontal nude of a girl 18-19 standing in a river. I always put the issue back on the end so I could find it to show friends. There were a lot of old saggies in NG but that one girl was perfect.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.4.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.4    2 months ago
"When I was a kid, my friends and I would look for the dirty parts in the bible."

That's the second time you've caused my first laugh out loud of the day.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.4.6  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.4.1    2 months ago

No internet back then so we just made do with what we had.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    2 months ago

It's a clever ploy on his part. I like it. Unfortunately it is a form of preaching to the choir. 

The Bible nuts will consider it blasphemy and damn the man to hell. 

 
 
 
Veronica
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4  Veronica    2 months ago
"Do we really want to teach our youth about drunken orgies?"

Or drunken incest????

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1  Tacos!  replied to  Veronica @4    2 months ago
"Do we really want to teach our youth about drunken orgies?"

Those are the good orgies, so . . . Yes. Absolutely, yes.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @4.1    2 months ago

Only if the wine served was created from water

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.1    2 months ago

don't forget the fish sandwiches...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5  Tessylo    2 months ago

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devangelical
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5.1  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @5    2 months ago

free admittance to old white people.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @5    2 months ago

More like “bring a raft.” In 30 or 40 years, half of it will probably be underwater anyway. Then we can stop reading absurd stories that begin with “Florida man . . . “ or “Florida governor . . . “, etc.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @5.2    2 months ago

There's always some crazy shit coming out of Florida.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6  Tessylo    2 months ago

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Kavika
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7  Kavika     2 months ago

LOL, good on ya Chaz.

 
 
 
Ender
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8  Ender    2 months ago
Duval County reached out to the state capital for guidance.

I come and kiss your ring Don. I ask for your guidance.

 
 
 
JBB
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9  JBB    2 months ago

Are recurring infanticides inappropriate for children?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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9.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @9    2 months ago
Are recurring infanticides inappropriate for children?

Infanticides are certainly inappropriate for infants.  

 
 
 
JBB
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9.1.1  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @9.1    2 months ago

I always wondered that considering Herod killed every young boy in Israel when Jesus was born, why were Mary and Joseph so surprise Jesus drew attention when he showed up in Jerusalem for Passover when he was twelve? Seems like he would have stood out, being the only one there...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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10  Drinker of the Wry    2 months ago

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