Behind church doors: White evangelicals are quietly fueling Trump's Big Lie | Salon.com

  
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By:   Amanda Marcotte (Salon)

Behind church doors: White evangelicals are quietly fueling Trump's Big Lie  | Salon.com
Evangelicals are the backbones of Trump's Big Lie — and it's all about white supremacy

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"There's one thing that I know for sure," declared Gene Bailey, the pastor of Eagle Mountain Church International, before a crowd of thousands recently gathered at Oral Roberts University in Oklahoma. "The raw truth was on Nov. 3, 2020, President Donald J. Trump won the election."

Later during the summit on the 2020 presidential election, which was broadcast live to a Facebook audience of over 300,000 followers, Hank Kunneman, the pastor of One Voice Ministries, proclaimed: "There is a payback coming!"

The pastor went to rave about how President Joe Biden belongs in prison for "treason" and a "demonic agenda."

The late April event is chilling — but remarkable, mainly for how unremarkable it is.

Forget Jesus Christ and the "good news" about salvation. All across red state America, the true faith of evangelical churches lately often seems more about Donald Trump and trumpeting the Big Lie. As Charles Homans at the New York Times wrote in late April:


In the 17 months since the presidential election, pastors at these churches have preached about fraudulent votes and vague claims of election meddling. They have opened their church doors to speakers promoting discredited theories about overturning President Biden's victory and lent a veneer of spiritual authority to activists who often wrap themselves in the language of Christian righteousness.

In the mainstream media and the eyes of much of the public, there's a secular cast to the false claims that Biden "stole" the 2020 election, which is being used to justify a national GOP campaign to actually steal the election for Trump in 2024.

From Rudy Giuliani sweating through his hair dye to Steve Bannon's self-aggrandizing to the hard-drinking Proud Boys, the face of the Big Lie is that of the all-American dirtbag, someone who is more likely to be out on Saturday harassing women in bars than up early on Sunday for church. But while those figures certainly get attention, the larger threat to democracy likely comes from the well-organized, well-funded white evangelical movement, which has managed to reorganize itself around Trump's Big Lie out of the glare of much mainstream media attention.

From the beginning, the religious right was the backbone of Trump's Big Lie. As Kathryn Joyce reported for Salon on the anniversary of the January 6 insurrection, in the run-up to the riot, "allegations about the 'stolen' election became nearly inseparable from messages of apocalyptic faith." The crowd that turned out that day was largely driven by religious fervor. Popular religious right figures were responsible for sending thousands of people to the Capitol to do Trump's bidding. Since then, the Christian nationalist devotion to the Big Lie has only grown stronger. Six out of 10 white evangelicals claim Biden stole the 2020 election, compared to 37% of white Christians from mainline churches.

The enthusiasm for the Big Lie among white evangelicals comes back primarily to one thing: Racism.

78% of white evangelicals agreed with the statement that "America is in danger of losing its culture and identity."

Scrape away the easily disproven conspiracy theories about voting machines and stolen ballots and what you're left with is the animating belief of the Big Lie, which is that conservative white people are entitled to rule, no matter what. The Big Lie puts a moral gloss on this argument, by recasting the opponents of democracy as the "victims" of a "stolen" election. Actions like trying to throw out the vote total in racially diverse cities in 2020 and rewriting election laws to marginalize voters of color, however, tell the true story. The Big Lie is about preserving white supremacy, even if the cost is ending democracy.

Anthea Butler, a religious studies professor at the University of Pennsylvania and author of "White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America" explained the history of the evangelical movement last year in an interview for Religion & Politics.

"There's a prevalent belief around evangelicalism that the movement was formed in the 70s in response to Roe v. Wade," she noted. In reality, however, "It wasn't abortion that fired them up—it was integration, taxation, busing, and similar issues."

As Dartmouth historian Randall Balmer has carefully documented, while religious right leaders like Jerry Falwell liked to portray their movement as anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ, it really started as a pro-segregation movement. Falwell first made a name for himself by preaching about the evils of integration. He started really getting into political organizing around the issue of the federal government stripping tax-exempt status from private schools, such as his own Lynchburg Christian School, which barred Black students. Falwell later publicly recanted his segregationist beliefs, but only in the most surface of ways. White supremacy is still foundational to white evangelical culture, which is why they continue to be Trump's strongest base of support.

It's easy to see how much racism is in the DNA of white evangelical culture in a recent New Yorker article about Liberty University, which was founded by Falwell and, until recently, was run by his son Jerry Falwell, Jr. University leadership talks a big game about racial diversity, but whenever there's even a hint of a challenge to white supremacy on campus, the administration comes down on students like a hammer. As Megan K. Stack reports, "members of the student government drafted an anodyne condemnation of white supremacy" in response to the deadly white supremacist march in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017, but the administration functionally blocked it. Falwell then defended Trump's claim that the neo-Nazis and other white nationalists were "very fine people."

White evangelicals are embracing conspiracy theories, Trumpism, and, ultimately, a war on democracy itself.

A similar fight went down when a small group of students tried to organize a demonstration in support of Black Lives Matter after the murder of George Floyd in 2020. The administration totally panicked in response, as Stack notes:


They were told to stop using the words "Black lives matter" and "protest"; "demonstration," they recalled the administrators admonishing them, sounded less violent. They were asked to organize an academic discussion instead of a protest, or perhaps an athletes-only gathering in one of the sports halls. "They were just being very passive-aggressive," Williams said. "They were just trying to water down the statement 'Black lives matter.' "

When the students continued to press forward with the plans, the administration refused to provide campus police protection. Afterward, the school released a statement emphasizing that it was "student-led and student-created," lest anyone mistake them as supporting this anti-racist movement.

A November PRRI poll found that while they espouse anti-racist views when asked directly about race, 78% of white evangelicals agreed with the statement that "America is in danger of losing its culture and identity." To my mind, that question is an excellent measure of white supremacist sentiment, as it's hard to imagine what else people are thinking of when they talk about American culture and identity. They certainly aren't reacting to the long-standing tradition of America as a nation of immigrants, the traditions of secularism, or any of the other progressive values about equality and freedom that the liberal majority of Americans believe in. Instead, what they clearly believe is that people like them are the only legitimate rulers and that it's "fraud" if the majority of Americans disagree.

The truth is that white evangelicals are, in fact, a shrinking portion of the American public, but not because of immigration or Black Lives Matter or antifa or any of the other bogeymen that Republican propagandists prop up. It's because of evangelicals' own intolerance and bigotry. Younger Americans simply don't truck with it — even at Liberty University, students speak out about it! — and so are leaving the pews in large numbers. Heaven forbid, however, that evangelicals admit they only have themselves to blame and change their views to become more accepting of diversity. Instead, white evangelicals are embracing conspiracy theories, Trumpism, and, ultimately, a war on democracy itself.


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devangelical
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1  seeder  devangelical    2 months ago

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devangelical
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1.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1    2 months ago

domestic terrorists with tax exempt status...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 months ago

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devangelical
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1.1.2  seeder  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 months ago

a related story here

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 months ago

They're such scum.  Only ones who support whatshisname, the steaming pile of shit.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Its hard to tell whether these people are stupid, delusional , or dishonest.  I vote for all three. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 months ago

Its hard to tell whether these people are stupid, delusional , or dishonest.  I vote for all three. 

Xian's have always been fast and loose with the truth.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1    2 months ago

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2.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    2 months ago

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Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1    2 months ago
Xian's have always been fast and loose with the truth.

I don't think it's so much "fast and loose" as it is believing their own version of truth (aka alternative facts) regardless of any evidence to the contrary. They have 'conviction' in their version of truth, which is often more sinister and difficult to combat than someone who just chooses to believe in a lie out of convenience. For the latter, if you just make it less convenient to believe the lie they'll often change their tune, but for those who have deeply invested in their version of truth there is no giving up on the lie even if their faces are shoved in the overwhelming contrary evidence. To them they imagine themselves being persecuted for their beliefs which is a badge of honor they not only wear proudly, they run around telling everyone they know "Hey, I'm being persecuted you know, all the wicked liberals and progressives hate us white Christian conservatives just like Jesus said they would!". Of course when you ask how they are being persecuted they can only rattle off general complaints where Christianity wasn't being allowed to inject itself into public spaces or laws. I haven't yet heard of any Christian not being allowed to practice their faith or being forced to get gay married or forced to get an abortion. Nearly all public schools still assign Christmas, Easter and Halloween art projects and events, there is a conservative majority on the Supreme court, they can worship just about anywhere they want, their Churches have tax exempt status and many towns have a church on almost every corner but from the way they tell it conservative Christians are a persecuted minority clinging to survival in America.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.3    2 months ago
I don't think it's so much "fast and loose" as it is believing their own version of truth (aka alternative facts) regardless of any evidence to the contrary.

I partially agree.  The difference is that they are perfectly willing to change their "truth" depending on who they are applying it to.

Abortion = "Bad.  God says thou shalt not kill"

Death penalty = "Good".

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.4    2 months ago
The difference is that they are perfectly willing to change their "truth" depending on who they are applying it to.

And they have no problem telling bald faced lies as we saw the conservative justices do during their confirmation as they swore an oath to God to tell the truth and swore they would never be activist justices bent on overturning decades of court precedent and decisions by injecting their personal ideological opinions.

"Save the unborn! Screw the born! Especially if they're not white conservative Christians aka the "Chosen Ones". /s

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.5    2 months ago
"The difference is that they are perfectly willing to change their "truth" depending on who they are applying it to."
"And they have no problem telling bald faced lies as we saw the conservative justices do during their confirmation as they swore an oath to God to tell the truth and swore they would never be activist justices bent on overturning decades of court precedent and decisions by injecting their personal ideological opinions." "Save the unborn! Screw the born! Especially if they're not white conservative Christians aka the "Chosen Ones". /s

Bunch of fucking hypocrites.  Lying hypocritical scum.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.7  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.6    2 months ago

I watched susan collins backpedaling on the news earlier, but she's used to getting bent over by her party...

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.2  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 months ago
I vote for all three. 

Congratulations, the trifecta.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    2 months ago
The truth is that white evangelicals are, in fact, a shrinking portion of the American public, but not because of immigration or Black Lives Matter or antifa or any of the other bogeymen that Republican propagandists prop up. It's because of evangelicals' own intolerance and bigotry. Younger Americans simply don't truck with it — even at Liberty University, students speak out about it! — and so are leaving the pews in large numbers. 

That's good news.

I've always wondered what the hell people are talking about when they talk about American culture and identity.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    2 months ago

let's hope it is "the end times" for that cult...

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    2 months ago

no young people with an IQ over 80 want to aligned with a bunch of liars, bigots, and hypocrites.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4  Kavika     2 months ago

Praise the Lord and pass the platter.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @4    2 months ago

... pass the splatter.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5  seeder  devangelical    2 months ago

none of the above is as valid as any religion...

 
 
 
devangelical
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6  seeder  devangelical    2 months ago

_______ will believe anything.

  1. thumpers
  2. morons
  3. trumpsters
  4. all of the above
 
 
 
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6.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @6    2 months ago

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bbl-1
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7  bbl-1    2 months ago

The evangelicals.  At least they buy MAGA merch.

There are two things the Trump did accomplish though.

    1.  The embrace of 'the vulgarian' onto the religious vulgar has diminished their ranks to a degree.

    2.  Trump's bringing of the religious fanatical and the 'white pride right-wing' into consequence with public and legal means of removing CHOICE and attacks on birth control will drive 

         more disenfranchised women away from male-dom and into the ranks of lesbianism.

lol---right?

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  bbl-1 @7    2 months ago

the party of individual freedom and liberty, my ass. fucking unamerican thumper scum.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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7.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  devangelical @7.1    2 months ago

The GOP should at least be honest and re-label itself the autocrat party. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.2  seeder  devangelical  replied to  bbl-1 @7.1.1    2 months ago

no doubt.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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8  Gsquared    2 months ago
white evangelicals are embracing conspiracy theories, Trumpism, and, ultimately, a war on democracy itself

The biggest domestic threat to America today.

 
 
 
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8.1  bbl-1  replied to  Gsquared @8    2 months ago

And the World.

 
 

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